Ukraine Should Keep Fighting and So Should We

Guest Post by Kurt Schlichter

Ukraine Should Keep Fighting and So Should We

There are folks out there who think that the best solution to the Ukraine crisis – for the folks – is for Zelensky to just throw in the towel and save his people the nightmare of further war with Russia, and part of that group include American pols and blue checks who want to simply put this behind us to get on with what they think is more important business, like sucking up to Iran, and sacrificing to the angry weather goddess. Ukrainians not giving up means the fighting is on TV every night, along with economic pain, and that is hurting their poll numbers, and that’s what counts. The only thing that would make Joe Biden happier than the Ukrainians accepting an armistice leaving Putin in charge of the land he has stolen is a Murder, She Wrote marathon with his pal Corn Pop.

But they won’t say that. They’ll pressure the Ukes for surrender by invoking caring and concern, which they prioritize over freedom. Their argument is that it is somehow immoral to continue to resist and thereby bring the hell down upon the civilian population. I don’t buy it, and hopefully you don’t either. Better to die on your feet than live on your knees is a popular cliché, but right now Ukraine has to actually make that choice in real time. It’s their choice, but the idea that it is somehow immoral to fight, that they are compelled by some secular scripture to submit to foreign tyranny – well, hard pass. If they wish to do it, fine. But the idea that capitulation instead of glorious death on a pile of 7.62x39mm brass is somehow the duty of civilized people is exactly the kind of mindset that empowers barbarians.

And that attitude would also empower aspiring tyrants here at home.

Let’s be clear – I am an American, and I want what is best for America. That might not be what is best for Ukraine. And I fully understand that there is much more to the Russia/Ukraine dispute than those of us outside the Vodka Belt comprehend. The point is not who is the good guy and who is the bad guy, though the guy invading is probably the latter and I have personally witnessed Ukrainian corruption. The point is the softness in our ruling caste’s core that says that the highest best objective is “saving lives,” though that’s not really what they believe. It’s what they say to compel you to act as they wish – to give up your carbon-spewing Chevy Tahoe, to eat bugs instead of rib-eyes, to wear masks and take infinite number of vaccines, and to not fight to the death when your stubborn refusal to just give up is preventing them from ending the shooting and getting back to business as usual.

Yeah, it would be easier for our globalist elite if this war ended with Zelensky walking out of Kiev with his hands up. But that doesn’t make it right to expect him to. Nor is it right to expect us to just give up our rights, property, and self-respect just because that’s convenient for the people in power.

There is something more important than merely living. That’s being free. And while the Ukrainian idea of being free is a bit different than ours in the details, it is identical in the most important way – Ukrainians want to determine for themselves how they will live. And they are willing to die, and to see their own people die, to do that.

Good for them.

Learn from them.

Are we perpetuating the war by giving the Ukrainians arms and ammunition? I sure hope so. If they want to keep fighting, I am happy to share the means to the extent that it overlaps with America’s own interests. Bullets? Sure. Javelins? Fine. MiGs? I think that’s silly for logistical and operational reasons, and because the idea is to refurbish these 40-year-old clunkers at a US base and thereby risks, even a little more than we are risking it now, drawing the US directly into this war. But the principle is fine – as long as it serves American interests. And if Ukraine surrendering becomes something that is in America’s interest, not just the interest of politicians concerned about losing the next election, I will support that – but I will not tell myself that it is based on some abstract moral principle instead upon hard-nosed realism.

If we are talking about principles – not the sodden, mushy guidelines that the cruise ship conservatives always assert to try to keep us from asserting our rights but the real kind – then the principle that you should fight for your freedom regardless of the cost is paramount. Yes, sometimes you are within your moral rights to surrender to avoid more harm to civilians. You can choose that. But the idea that you must do so because more of your people will die simply empowers the brutal. Embrace the power of the deterrent effect that comes from everyone knowing that you’ll never submit, and if they want you too they best get their affairs in order before they come try to make you.

Winston Churchill famously said it best in words that still stir every free man’s heart:

Even though large tracts of Europe and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of the Gestapo and all the odious apparatus of Nazi rule, we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God’s good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old.

Churchill was a man of the 19th Century who saved the 20th. This is the 21st, but those words still resonate within those of us who still dare and demand to be free. “Whatever the cost” – that’s a hard standard, but one worthy of a free people. And in America, beneficiary of the Founder’s vision that an armed citizenry is a free one, we zealously guard our right to keep and bear the means to do it.

But freedom is not free. Many of us have forgotten that. In Ukraine, the toll is grievous among fighters and civilians. But that toll must be paid if they wish to remain free. And that is their call. Morally, if Ukrainians want to fight until every man, woman, and cow is dead rather than give in, that’s their decision. The same with making the agonizing call to submit instead of enduring the losses. They are in this war, not us.

Surrender might sometimes be the best of a set of bad choices, but it is never a moral imperative – especially when it is for the convenience of others who will not have to live as slaves.

Keep in mind the lesson of Ukraine – that human nature has not changed and that all this peace and prosperity can collapse into fire and blood in a heartbeat. And when that happens, everyone faces a decision, as a nation and as individuals, about what to do. Do you give in, or do you fight? Make sure you always have the ability to choose for yourself. Buy guns and ammunition.

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38 Comments
pyrrhuis
pyrrhuis
March 28, 2022 8:12 am

More neocon insanity….

Roscoe Sandstone
Roscoe Sandstone
March 28, 2022 8:35 am

What a load of crp. Reminds me of a drunk in a bar, always seeing and hearing everything as an attack on his “honor”, when all he wants to do is get into a fight. Yeah, there are some crackpots like that.

HowardStern'sAMoron
HowardStern'sAMoron
March 28, 2022 8:43 am

It is certainly a manufactured crisis to help the elites consolidate their power under the auspices of a one world government led, for the moment, by the United Nations. It is chilling to see how far they have come with this scheme but it has been in the works for decades if not generations. Anyone who thinks that Russia is not in on it is crazy. Putin has made many dumb moves and he is a very smart man. He is having Russia play its scripted role. The phantom threat of nuclear war is meant to scare the sheeple to death making them more compliant and willing to surrender their freedom.

A9racer
A9racer
  HowardStern'sAMoron
March 28, 2022 9:06 am

Ahh, yes. Putin is a graduate of Schwabs Young Leaders indoctrination class. It is all right there for the seeing to see.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  A9racer
March 28, 2022 10:54 am

he was kicked out. if you took a moment to listen to the speech he gave during an invite you would know why. but, unfortunately a headline reader is all you are and probably all you will ever be.

HowardStern'sAMoron
HowardStern'sAMoron
  Anonymous
March 28, 2022 2:07 pm

The fact remains, Putin is just another one of the elite playing his scripted role. He has signed on to the the UN’s sustainability strategies and they are clearly the framework for a one world government. Unfortunately the headline reader is you my Anonymous friend.

HowardStern'sAMoron
HowardStern'sAMoron
  HowardStern'sAMoron
March 28, 2022 2:10 pm

Surprising to see that so many sheeple read this blog.

HowardStern'sAMoron
HowardStern'sAMoron
  HowardStern'sAMoron
March 28, 2022 3:49 pm

That six people could give me the thumbs down indicates much of what is wrong with this country. These idiots think we are fighting for freedom in the Ukraine…what a bunch of morons.

Mike
Mike
March 28, 2022 8:57 am

Good lord. The author of this article is a complete idiot. He literally has it completely backwards. The globalist elite don’t want that war to end. They want it to go on for as long as possible with as many dead bodies as they can get. They’d like to keep Russia bogged down and drag it out for years if they could.

Mountainrat
Mountainrat
March 28, 2022 9:03 am

Another Kurt article designed to keep people on the plantation. There is no way he actually believes this nonsense but this is what he is paid to write. Fewer people are buying what he is selling but far too many still do.

Brewer55
Brewer55
March 28, 2022 9:08 am

I think Kurt needs to stay with fiction writing and lay off the keyboard on the non-fiction.

paddy o'furniture
paddy o'furniture
March 28, 2022 9:10 am

Two words : Horse Shit. So much for this Kurt idjit

credit
credit
March 28, 2022 9:54 am

weak…

Scot
Scot
March 28, 2022 10:48 am

Surprised Kurt is defending the “People’s Republic” in this scenario. Guess he’s blinded by his neocon friends.

Robert Gore
Robert Gore
March 28, 2022 11:06 am

What an idiot.

Jdog
Jdog
March 28, 2022 11:31 am

The idiot writing this article does not have a clue. I am disappointed at BP for even putting this garbage on their site.
The last thing we need in this world is to give neocons a platform to disseminate their bullshit.
Ukraine has been given a fair offer for peace, and if they do not accept it, then Russia should continue to work towards its objectives.
Ukraine was simply another neocon attempt to further globalism and to enslave the world. This time using radical Nazi’s and ethnic cleansing as their tools of destruction.
The history of Ukraine is no secret, if you are not aware of the history since the 1980’s then you should not form an opinion because you do not know enough to know what you are talking about.

A. R. Wasem
A. R. Wasem
  Jdog
March 28, 2022 12:56 pm

Exactly – why the Hell is this mindfucked neocon retard still posting here???

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  A. R. Wasem
March 28, 2022 6:53 pm

There’s a good reason The Administrator puts him on here. To remind us how those who are controlled by others tell us lies with a straight face.

paddy o'furniture
paddy o'furniture
  Jdog
March 28, 2022 3:44 pm

Whoa big fella whoa. You just suggested censorship, which is exactly one of the key elements we have to overcome. And, it’s good to read all opinions. And and, I love the comments when some idjit like this here Kurt wanders into the wrong bar.

Jdog
Jdog
  paddy o'furniture
March 29, 2022 11:32 am

Let’s be real. Every site picks what content they feel is appropriate and inappropriate. That is their prerogative. They post articles they feel their readership will enjoy and relate to. There is a difference between censorship and selection of content. The Neo Cons are arguably the most evil people on earth, and to provide a platform for their lies benefits no one, and endangers everyone. It is as bad as giving a platform to those who advocate pedophilia.

Rainman
Rainman
March 28, 2022 12:12 pm

Death to all Nazi’s everywhere.
I support anyone killing naziz.
My country was attacked by naziz in ww2. A million Americans were killed or maimed by the naziz. At my grade schools, I had school mates whose fathers limped till the day they died from nazi injuries, or their fathers never returned from Europe. A friend of my father was in Dachau. He had the tattoo on his forearm. I played with his kids.
The Azov battalion are proud naziz. Support for the Ukraine is support for Hitler and naziz.

Balbinus
Balbinus
  Rainman
March 28, 2022 7:57 pm

My Father suffered from poor eyesight from a German mustard gas attack in the 2nd battle of the Somme in WWI. Wasn’t Nazis but the same general idea.

Enquiring Minds
Enquiring Minds
  Balbinus
March 28, 2022 11:33 pm

Just how old are you? Are you a vampire?

A. R. Wasem
A. R. Wasem
March 28, 2022 12:54 pm

And here’s our favorite Neocon continuing to pimp for WWIII.

HowardStern'sAMoron
HowardStern'sAMoron
March 28, 2022 3:52 pm

I love Stoli!!!!

Matthew Clark
Matthew Clark
March 28, 2022 5:23 pm

Just as America asserted her security In October 1962 in Cuba over the placement of Soviet nuclear missiles so Russia has asserted her security this past February by invading Ukraine to prevent her from joining the North Atlantic Treaty Association. To see anything noble in the aggression of both the Western powers and Ukraine is foolhardy. The Western Powers, including my country Canada, should do the right thing and tell Ukraine to seek a diplomatic solution to the war which satisfies Russias security concerns. Spare the world the tilting at windmills over such an ignoble cause

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Matthew Clark
March 28, 2022 6:55 pm

There’s a reason Russia put missiles in Cuba. We first put Nike nuclear missiles on the Turkish-Soviet border.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 28, 2022 6:05 pm

Zelensky is not Ukrainian. He is a jewish pervert, who would gleefully send the entire Ukrainian population to their deaths.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Anonymous
March 28, 2022 6:51 pm

Jews make up 0.6% of the Ukrainian population, but comprise 75% of their government. Now we know a good reason why they’re in the mess they’re in.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Coalclinker
March 28, 2022 9:59 pm

“The Ukraine-Russia war is the result of the evil doing of the jews, and Ukraine is being led into war because it has a jewish president. This is proof that when a jew is the leader of a country, it results in war. If the president of Ukraine was someone else other than a jew, perhaps they wouldn’t have ended up in war. Jew, war – no jew, no war.”

Craven Warrior
Craven Warrior
  Anonymous
March 28, 2022 9:04 pm

And isn’t that fake Jew, George Soros, involved? That should tell Kurt and the other lack wits, that this is a snow job. Forget that Ukraine is no where near the North Atlantic.

Balbinus
Balbinus
March 28, 2022 7:52 pm

This article should alleviate the fertilizer shortage.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 28, 2022 8:18 pm

Ha, ha, ha! Aha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!

I just saw the fucking title and figured this piece has to be from Schlicter.

Amirite or amirite?

lamont cranston
lamont cranston
March 28, 2022 8:37 pm

Sorry, Kurt. You’re way off base here. This is possibly the most corrupt country in the world outside of Chicago. Or Rhode Island. Don’t know which. But, The Ukraine has many more Nazi’s.

Robert (QSLV)
Robert (QSLV)
March 28, 2022 8:54 pm

So naive and immature, Schlicter. I think you know better. Did you do any research at all? Start with the trade union hall in Odessa. 2014.

Robert (QSLV)

Gilberts
Gilberts
March 29, 2022 12:43 am

Bullshit. You’re another pro-war conservaterd chickenhawk happy to fight to the last drop of Ukrainian blood against the evil, dirty Russians.

A Russian-Greek girl from Krasnodar once told me her people say, “If you are going to be raped, and you can’t stop it, you might as well lie back and enjoy it.” Horrible, yes, but it provides a useful insight- If you’re being invaded by your Russian neighbor, why destroy your country for no purpose?

They will win. The question is how violently, how destructively it is in the process.

Just surrender.

They’re not likely to stay for long and what, exactly, is there to fight and die for in the Ukraine? It’s not a nation-it’s a polyglot mix of peoples who don’t necessarily like each other. No great collective history to share. The dominant ethnic Ukrainians hate the ethnic Russians and Russia and don’t even want them speaking their language in the Ukraine. Hard to weld a country out of divergent ethnic groups.

As for the idea they’re fighting for their freedom, keep in mind the Ukraine has never been free before now. It’s been under US/Western domination for years. There’s a reason all our leaders’ kids are holding no-show jobs on Ukrainian oil/gas companies. There’s a reason resident Chowderhead was visiting the Ukraine every 3 months during the Barry regime. There’s a reason he was able to dictate terms to the Ukrainian office of the prosecutor investigating American corruption. The Ukraine has been America’s bitch for years. It’s extremely corrupt and we like it that way.

If you like the current status quo, and you support our corrupt dickbag leaders, then by all means, support the Ukraine.
I support Russia in this conflict. I hope they win and I hope they win bigly.

Smedley Mulcher
Smedley Mulcher
March 29, 2022 12:53 am

The current Administration represents a danger to our human future by pushing us to the brink of nuclear war and advocating for a New World Order. We would be wise to remember the words of the thirty-fifth President of the United States, John Fitzgerald Kennedy who once said

“I have, therefore, chosen this time and this place to discuss a topic on which ignorance too often abounds and the truth is too rarely perceived–yet it is the most important topic on earth: world peace.
What kind of peace do I mean? What kind of peace do we seek? Not a Pax Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace, the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living, the kind that enables men and nations to grow and to hope and to build a better life for their children–not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and women–not merely peace in our time but peace for all time.”
-Commencement Address, American University, June 10th, 1963

bug
bug
March 30, 2022 7:56 pm

Typical. “Let’s you and him fight!”