What Are the Prospects for Peace?

Guest Post by Paul Craig Roberts

This is my response to an interview this morning with Peace Dividend https://peacedividend.us/paul-craig-roberts-what-now-are-the-prospects-for-peace/

The American war machine consists of the economic and power interests of the US military/security complex and the hegemonic ideology of the neoconservatives. The former requires an enemy in order to justify the unaccountable power of the security agencies and the $1,000 billion annual budget of the complex. The latter believes in an exceptional and indispensable United States entitled to hegemonic power over the world. As armaments industry political campaign donations exercise control over elected officials and as the neoconservatives with their Wolfowitz doctrine are the main shapers of US foreign policy, there are no interest groups or political leaders capable of challenging their dominance. This means that the chances for peace are zero.

We are being led into nuclear war. Having provoked a Russian military intervention in Ukraine, the US and its NATO puppets have become combatants in the conflict by their provision of Ukraine with weapons, training, and diplomatic support. The US and UK are now equipping Ukraine with missiles that can be used for attacks on Russia’s Black Sea naval base in Crimea. Once such an attack occurs, the US and NATO will be at war with Russia, a situation China could take advantage of by occupying Taiwan.

Peace requires an event or events that shake the neoconservatives confidence in their ideology of hegemony and the willingness of elected officials to continue to accommodate the interests of the military security complex, or it requires Russian and Chinese acceptance of US hegemony, an unlikely prospect.

Had the Kremlin responded to the Ukrainian provocation with a blitzkrieg conquest of all of Ukraine, a stunned Europe and Washington would have opened to voices other than the neoconservative ones, and elected officials would have been more mindful of the threat posed by an unbridled military/security complex. But the limited, drawn out Russian intervention reinforced the West’s view that there was not much fight in the Kremlin. The Kremlin’s toleration for many years of continuous provocations and its toleration of Western-financed subversion inside Russia has conditioned the West to disregard Russian declaration of red lines. For example, at the initiation of the Russian limited intervention in Ukraine, the Kremlin said that all who intervened in behalf of Ukraine would be treated as combatants. But no Western government paid any heed. Even militarily impotent Denmark sends weapon systems to Ukraine.

It was a strategic blunder for the Kremlin to suppose its operation could be limited. The US and most of Europe are now involved. The limited and time-consuming Russian intervention provided time for the West to fashion a narrative of Russian defeat and to organize weapons shipments. Once the Russians complete the task of driving the Ukrainians out of the Donbass region, the Russians are likely to confront a new Ukrainian army raised in Western Ukraine. In other words, the Kremlin’s goal of demilitarizing Ukraine is unlikely to result from partial conquest.

It seems clear that the situation is set for a wider war. As Dmitry Medvedev, deputy chairman of the Security Council of Russia, said: “The Horsemen of the Apocalypse are galloping ahead.”

The Kremlin Continues to Inform the West that the West is Courting Nuclear War. But No One Listens.

Excerpt from Lavrov UK press conference

Question: Britain has said it is giving Ukraine multiple rocket launchers to help it defend itself against Russian forces. The U.S. is doing the same thing. You called it a risky path. But if Russia had not attacked Ukraine and there had been no Russian invasion, there would have been no transfer of weapon systems. Do you agree?

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov: You don’t even want to hear our arguments. It’s not about “if we hadn’t attacked, you wouldn’t have sent weapons.” The point is that for twenty years, in fact, you (the British), the Americans, all other NATO member countries have been urged by us to do what everyone signed up to in 1999: no one will strengthen their security at the expense of the security of others. Why can’t you do that? Why did what your prime minister, presidents and prime ministers of all other OSCE countries signed turn out to be a lie? Instead, you tell us that NATO membership is “none of your business” – whoever you want in NATO, you accept. Five times you approached our borders. When the Warsaw Pact and the USSR disappeared, who were you defending against? This is megalomania.

Now Jens Stoltenberg says that it is necessary to globally ensure NATO’s responsibility in the Indo-Pacific region. So your next line of defense will be in the South China Sea. If you look at what is happening, it becomes completely clear: you considered yourself entitled all these years to commit lawlessness far from your borders. I understand that nostalgically this is the British Empire, you have left there thrown “seeds”. You have such nostalgia. They declare areas across the ocean from the United States, where there is allegedly a threat to Washington. Then Iraqi Mosul, then Syrian Raqqa, then Belgrade. In Libya, lawlessness is happening, states have been destroyed.

Imagine for a moment if, in neighboring Ireland, which occupies half of the island concerned, English was abolished, or Belgium, say, abolished French, Switzerland abolished French, German or Italian. How would Europe look at this? I won’t even elaborate on that thought. Europe looked calmly at how the Russian language was banned. It happened in Ukraine. Education, the media, daily communication – all this was forbidden to the Russian language. At the same time, the Russians in Donbass were bombed for eight years by a regime that openly professed and glorified Nazism.

I understand that you need to drill your “truth” into the heads of your audience with “chopped phrases”: “if you had not attacked, we would not have delivered MLRS.” Vladimir Putin commented on the situation that will develop in connection with the arrival of new weapons. I can only add that the more long-range weapons you supply, the further we will move westward from our territory the line from which neo-Nazis threaten the Russian Federation.

In other words, as neo-Nazis sit in Brussels, London and Washington as well as in Kiev, the protection of Russia expands the targets far beyond Donbass.

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28 Comments
Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
June 8, 2022 8:25 am

Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.

Stucky
Stucky
  Svarga Loka
June 8, 2022 8:43 am

Both are very worthwhile endeavors.

Fielding Mellish
Fielding Mellish
  Stucky
June 8, 2022 10:49 am

Both are impossible and just wait until the bombs start falling on our cities.

Boogieman
Boogieman
  Svarga Loka
June 8, 2022 11:31 am

You must keep trying until you get it right, no one likes a quitter. Set your goal’s and go for it!

Seriously though, “Piece in our time”, where have I heard that before?

hint Neville Chamberlain – 1938

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Boogieman
June 8, 2022 7:03 pm

Neville was right. They should have listened, but City of London wanted war so it was war.

Boogieman
Boogieman
  Anonymous
June 8, 2022 9:14 pm

Ah, but the war pigs of the day didn’t see that way. Same as it ever was.

Voltara
Voltara
  Svarga Loka
June 9, 2022 5:52 pm

Svarga – the virgins have got to come from somewhere….

flash
flash
June 8, 2022 8:47 am

In our time ?

Big Ed
Big Ed
June 8, 2022 10:01 am

Nuclear war coming, prepare accordingly.

Fielding Mellish
Fielding Mellish
  Big Ed
June 8, 2022 10:50 am

We’re near the tipping point. If we don’t reign in the Neocons we’ll all be goners. Hug your kids.

VOWG
VOWG
  Fielding Mellish
June 9, 2022 7:06 am

I did not realize that the democrat communists were neocons.

KJ
KJ
  Big Ed
June 8, 2022 11:07 am

I’ll just hide under my desk, like they taught in school.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  KJ
June 8, 2022 1:57 pm

Or put newspaper over your head. Or was that wet newspaper?

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 8, 2022 10:13 am

Lavrov nailed it with one word–megalomania. No other word describes the past 70 years better.

Fielding Mellish
Fielding Mellish
  Anonymous
June 8, 2022 10:51 am

We’re now the bad guys…the evil empire.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
June 8, 2022 10:46 am

The number of MLRS (multiple launch rocket systems, I think) headed to Ukraine from the West is tiny – four from the US, three from UK and a few others promised but which may never get sent. There is a battle going on. It’s in DC, between the Nuland wing, which only has one setting on its war dial – 11, and realists like Kissinger who acknowledge that Ukraine will never reverse Russian gains. The fact that the PR-focused wunderkinder of DC won’t publicly acknowledge reality makes them force Zelensky to refuse to cede an inch of territory. His remaining army of unlucky conscripts is being ground down to nothing in the Donbas so that when Russia is finally ready to to take Zaporozhye and Odessa (and maybe even Transnistria) there’ll be nothing to stop them. If there’s anything left of Ukraine in the west, America may dream of using it to wage attacks on Russian territory, but if that happens, Russia won’t take the same care to avoid civilian deaths that they have so far, since western Ukraine isn’t ethnically or linguistically Russian.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Iska Waran
June 8, 2022 7:06 pm

Kissinger is in the same COC as Nuland, he is just higher up.

Winchester
Winchester
June 8, 2022 1:29 pm

The removal of mentally ill liberals would be a start

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Winchester
June 8, 2022 7:08 pm

Ok. Then what do we do with all the mentally ill conservatives who don’t understand they are yesterday’s liberals?

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 8, 2022 1:34 pm

Prospect for peace?

Zero chance. Man is a killer. Man is irrational.

The only peace will be when the second to last human is killed.

6000+ years of history lead me to this conclusion.

Ken31
Ken31
  Anonymous
June 8, 2022 7:09 pm

I believe every man is capable of finding inner peace, you are talking about how most are not interested.

m
m
June 8, 2022 1:44 pm

Now Gonzalo loses the plot even more:

How unimaginative can someone like him suddenly become.
He is basically projecting what the US would do, and then states with a straight face Russia must act in the same manner, no other feasible option. Which by implication means GL believes that Putin wants to perpetuate the delusional Western system, only with himself on top.
And a war in Ukraine was the best way for him to achieve that??

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  m
June 8, 2022 2:28 pm

Huh? “GL believes that Putin wants to perpetuate the delusional Western system, only with himself on top.” That’s not what he’s saying at all. He’s just saying that Russia won’t leave standing a version of Ukraine that will continue to be a plaything and forward military base of the US. In other words whatever is left of Ukraine can’t be America’s bitch as it has been the last 8 years. Also that while countries like Poland and the Baltics can continue to be in the farce that is NATO, if they start braying about getting nukes on their territories, they’ll get the treatment that the Ukies brought onto themselves.

m
m
  Iska Waran
June 8, 2022 3:01 pm

GL’s saying that there is “no other way [for Russia] than to install a complete puppet regime, maybe even an outright military dictatorship, in the remaining rump-Ukraine.”
Ahem. That’s what the US would think and do.

And what did Russia actually do in Syria, Belarus, and lately Kazakhstan. Or in Armenia and Azerbaijan. Or Georgia.

If your antennas still don’t pick up a slight cognitive dissonance here, then that’s sad to hear.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  m
June 8, 2022 7:26 pm

That’s a good point, but I don’t think it gets you to your above conclusion.

m
m
  Anonymous
June 9, 2022 2:05 am

Is that all so difficult to grasp.
If Putin/Russia would follow GL’s dictum, i.e. doing [in Ukraine] exactly what the US would do, what is Putin actually fighting for?
According to that dictum, it cannot be a just and moral/Christian future for Russia, can it?
And as Putin had many opportunities to go the “let’s become another poodle of the globalists, or US/NATO” path but seemingly consciously avoided them, but still is fighting for something, i.e. not sitting this out – then what are his possible goals?? Not many choices left, after one backs oneself logically in such a corner…

Dial M for Mordor
Dial M for Mordor
June 8, 2022 8:24 pm

We are being led into nuclear war.

Not exactly. We are being led into Wormwood.

olde reb
olde reb
June 10, 2022 11:06 am

Putin was undoubtedly aware of the danger of expansion of the theater of war—and had tolerated NATO expansion and bio-weapon labs —and even Soro’s placement of a satrap to impose Wall Street domination. WS has used the same embedded coup [which is being used in the USA] in a multitude of nations for over 100 years—including Germany.

The hand writing was on the wall. Putin saw it. The USA has not. Schwab is the preacher; Wall Street is the director, treasurer, and CEO. Even when WS hooks 86 nations on IMF covid loans, the US sleeps. Powell even tells the world he is going to unload $8 trillion from his fiat book-entry QE $16 Trillion rescue of Wall Street owners of the Fed, the US continues to sleep.

The USA will be number 87.