UNTIL WE MEET AGAIN

FROM NOVEMBER 2010

William & Margaret Quinn emigrated from Ireland in the early part of the 20th Century. They were both from the same County in Ireland, but did not meet until they both arrived in America and settled into South Philadelphia. I know very little about these early years. Quinns are not a talkative bunch. The one story that stuck with me was about my grandfather’s service in World War I. I was told that he was in the cavalry and had two horses shot out from under him during the Battle of Belleau Wood. That story spurred my love of history.

I do know that William and Margaret had three sons and two daughters. One of the sons was named John Francis. He was born on February 25, 1925. They raised their children in a small row house on 2nd Street in South Philly. They got through the Great Depression. William worked for Atlantic Refining Company in South Phila. John was an athletic boy. He was 5-11 and 180 pounds. He played Semi-Pro football in his youth. The day he turned 18 in 1943, he rushed down to the enlistment office to fight for his country. Luckily for me and the rest of my siblings he was turned down because of his very poor eyesight, a gift he passed down to all of us. His nickname among his buddies was “The General”. We have no idea why. He never told us.

I assume that his old man pulled some strings to get him hired by Atlantic Refining in 1945. His brother Billy also got a job at Atlantic. His entire working life was spent working for Atlantic, retiring in 1985 at the age of 59. Driving an 18 wheel gas truck for decades will wear a strong man out. He would go to work at 5:30 every day and put in a 10 hour shift. He would have his 40 hours in by Thursday. We would wait for the phone to ring on Thursday night asking him to work on Friday. He always said yes. He had friends killed on the job. He had friends badly injured. Working with gasoline, climbing ladders, lugging heavy hoses, and driving an 18 wheel bomb would make anyone a little nervous. One spark or even static electricity could end in disaster. Somehow he managed to do this dangerous job for 40 years without incident. He had a perfect record for safety. He was proud of that. After 40 years, they gave him a gold watch. Later in his life, he gave that watch to me.

Those are the facts. But, that isn’t what defined my Dad. He was a man of few words and didn’t talk much about his youth or his adventures during his 20s. He met my mother in the early 1950s. Their first date was seeing Tony Bennett at the Bolero in Wildwood, NJ. This began a lifelong love affair with Wildwood. I took my mom to the Bolero a few months ago for dinner. They married in 1955 and had my brother Jack shortly thereafter while living in a small apartment in South Philly. They realized the American dream in 1957 when they bought a brand new 900 square foot 3 bedroom, 1 bath row home for $10,000 in Collingdale, the new suburb 10 miles outside of Philadelphia. They paid off their 30 year mortgage in 1987 and had a party to celebrate.

They joined St. Joseph’s Parish. They never missed Sunday Mass. They always made their weekly donation. I was born in 1963 and my sister Maureen arrived in 1967. There were miscarriages between my brother and myself, but they were not spoken about. Irish Catholic families are good at not speaking about certain things. We are also good at holding grudges, drinking and laughing when we should cry. My recollections of my childhood are all positive. My Dad went to work. My mom stayed home and raised us. He would come home from work and sit in his chair to read the Evening Bulletin. My mom would bring him a beer. We’d eat dinner as a family. He’d have another beer and usually drift off while reading the paper. One of our dogs (Ginger, Snoopy, or Boots) would always be next to him. We joked that he liked his dogs more than us. They never talked back.

We were not coddled. I rode my bike to school. The kids in the neighborhood organized our own fun. There were baseball fields and basketball courts within walking distance. We played hockey in the middle of the street. We weren’t shuttled around to activities because we only had one car.  Somehow, on the salary of one blue collar parent, they put us through 12 years of Catholic school and sent us to college at Villanova, Drexel and Scranton. We learned to be self-sufficient. My parents were there to help, but it was up to us to succeed or fail. I learned my work ethic from my Dad. I don’t remember a lot of specifics from my early childhood, but I do remember my Dad pulling his Mack Truck up in front of our house when I was 4 years old. He had just made a delivery to an ARCO station near our house. He lifted me into the cab and took me for a ride around the block. It became a highlight of my childhood and sticks with me today.

My Dad was a child of the Depression. He was frugal and risk averse his entire life. He bought used cars during my entire youth. He bought whatever beer that was on sale (Red White & Blue, Tiger’s Head Ale, Schlitz). No foreign beers for him. He never trusted credit cards. Even ATMs were suspect in his view. The only debt he ever had was the mortgage. In his last year of work in 1985 he made $32,000, the highest earnings of his lifetime. He took a lump sum payout of $200,000 for his pension. He made it last for the next 25 years. We never lived above our means. We went to Wildwood for 2 weeks every year. My Mom and Dad’s brothers and sisters would bring their families for the same two weeks. It was a party. The kids were free to roam and the parents were free to drink and play poker.

I am who I am because of my Dad. We shared many of the same interests. He liked history, fishing, sports and funny TV shows. I had the patience to be a good fisherman and I didn’t throw up when I went on a boat, like my brother. He would take me deep sea fishing, fishing off the dock at Dad’s Place, and fishing off the beach in North Wildwood. He would take us to Franklin D Roosevelt Park in South Philly to fish for sunnies in the lakes. We would go to Phillies games on the weekend, sitting in the yellow seats up top. It was 50 cents for a kid and $2 for an adult. I inherited his hate for traffic. We always parked on the street, about a half mile from the stadium. He wanted to beat the traffic. It has been a running joke in our family that we never saw a 9th inning at a Phillies game. Dad would make us leave in the 8th to beat the traffic. I remember leaving a Monday night Eagles game and hearing the crowd cheer as we walked down the street. An Eagle had run a kickoff back 102 yards to win the game. I also remember leaving a 76ers game when they were down by 30 points. They staged one of the greatest comebacks in history to win the game. But, we didn’t get caught in the traffic.

My Dad had a dry sense of humor. He was not politically correct. He loved the sitcom All in the Family. Of course, he agreed with most of what Archie Bunker said. When we asked him how he got that scar on his knee, he said that he was stabbed by a Jap midget in WWII. He influenced my deep skepticism of most things. I would read hundreds of books about WWII, the Civil War, and other times in history. After finishing a book, I’d be bursting to tell him what I learned. I’d tell him what I learned and he’d look up from his newspaper and say, “Don’t believe everything you read.” That would make me so mad. But, he was right. The lesson was that I had to think for myself.

The last week has been emotional and difficult. One of my main tasks was to produce a slide show that we could show at the funeral luncheon to celebrate the life of my Father. We rummaged through five decades worth of pictures and picked out 60 pictures that told the story of his life. I spent hours scanning these pictures and creating a power point slide show. What I realized while performing this task was that my Dad and Mom had provided the foundation and the bridge to future generations. They gave myself and my brother and sister the opportunity to move up and have a better life than they did. They were rewarded with 8 grandchildren (Sean, Megan, Erin, Brynn, Ethan, Kevin, Jimmy, Mike), and I have to say that there is not a bad one in the bunch. My Dad came up a few months short of seeing twin great grandchildren. My parents did not live for today. They lived to help make the future better.

My brother made two comments during his Eulogy yesterday that really hit home for me. Everyone liked my Dad. He had no enemies. He smiled easily and was slow to anger. He spent the last 3 years of his life in the St. Francis Country Home. Seeing the compassion, love and care shown to my Dad and my Mom from the nurses, orderlies, and administration at St. Francis has renewed my faith in the American people. These people do not do it for the great pay or glory. They do it because they care about less fortunate human beings. As we waited out my Dad’s final hours, workers from the Home would arrive to pay their respects and give him a kiss. Some stayed for hours with us. These people loved him. They became my Mom’s best friends. I’m truly thankful that he spent his final days in this loving place.

The other thing that my brother said was that history would not remember my Dad, but everyone whose lives he touched would remember him. It is people like my Dad that made this country. They did the hard work. They lived life the right way. He wasn’t famous. He wasn’t ambitious. He was a good man – a role model for his children and grandchildren. If we had more men like John Quinn this country would be a better place. He was a generational bridge that allowed his kids and grandkids to cross over to a better future. We laughed and cried in equal doses in the last week. I loved my Dad. I’ll miss him for the rest of my life. As I was putting ties around the necks of Jimmy and Michael on the morning of the funeral, I realized they still need me. They won’t need me to put their ties on in a few years, but hopefully they will always remember the love of family they have learned from their parents and grandparents. As I type these words tears are falling on the keyboard. Goodbye Dad. I’ll see you in Heaven, if I make the list.

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52 Comments
Steve Hogan
Steve Hogan
November 12, 2010 2:29 pm

A nice tribute. He was obviously a man worthy of respect. In fact, he reminds me of my Dad. I ought to tell him I love him…while he’s still around to hear it.

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
November 12, 2010 2:45 pm

I dreamed of hell once. It wasnt fire and brimstone. It was, however, devoid of people.

I interpreted the dream to mean that there is none that the higher power cannot convert. So I dont think you have to worry about any lists Jim.

Enjoyed the post Jim as it reminds me of family life I had in simpler and less hectic times.

Never say goodbye.

See YOU later.

Zara
Zara
November 12, 2010 2:46 pm

I’m really sorry for your loss, Jim. I wrote a fairly long piece yesterday and it was consumed by the internetz after I hit “submit comment.” Thanks for introducing us to your dad and for everything else.

Viet Vet-70
Viet Vet-70
November 12, 2010 2:57 pm

Jim:
You are who you are because of your folks, they did a great job raising all of you!!!!

Smokey
Smokey
November 12, 2010 3:12 pm

JQ—Thanks for sharing that.

jmarz
jmarz
November 12, 2010 3:17 pm

Jim,

Very humbling piece. Cherish each day as it is your last. Your dad must have been a great man.

God Bless

Robmu1
Robmu1
November 12, 2010 3:20 pm

Nice tribute Jim.

Jackson
Jackson
November 12, 2010 3:37 pm

Jim,

Sorry to read of Your Father’s death. My sympathies are with you and your family. Your eulogy in tribute of him is an especially moving one.

Jackson

mikeinaz
mikeinaz
November 12, 2010 3:47 pm

Hello James,

A great man your father was. My heartfelt condolences. Godspeed.

Cynical30
Cynical30
November 12, 2010 3:52 pm

My condolences Jim.

acjitsu
acjitsu
November 12, 2010 5:48 pm

Very sorry for your huge loss…. I too have suffered a huge loss in our family last week as my brother lost his 36 year old wife due to leukemia. They have two boys, 5 and 3.

TeresaE
TeresaE
November 12, 2010 6:23 pm

Jim, I am deeply sorry for your loss. Hugs and kisses being sent to you and your family.

SSS
SSS
November 12, 2010 6:25 pm

You poured your heart out in this wonderfully written post. What a fine tribute to your dad. Thank you for sharing your thoughts in this trying time for you and your family.

newsjunkie
newsjunkie
November 12, 2010 7:02 pm

Lovely words, Jim.

May your Father’s memory be a blessing for you.

howie
howie
November 12, 2010 7:06 pm

My condolences Jim, i am glad to see you remember that it was a good life and he raised a fine family

Punk in Drublic
Punk in Drublic
November 12, 2010 7:17 pm

Shitfuck. Have to choke back a few tears myself reading that. Your father sounds like a great man. Good of you to share that with us. My deepest sympathies.

Snake
Snake
November 12, 2010 9:13 pm

That was beautiful Jim. Your father reminds me of mine.

kbeckett
kbeckett
November 13, 2010 12:02 am

Very nice,
I lost my dad, cancer, nearly 3 years ago. I still miss him every day.
The hardest, yet proudest, thing I have had to do was give the eulogy at his funeral.

He was my mentor, my inspiration, my role-model, my foil – my father.

So, sorry for your loss. My, any my families prayers will be with you and yours.

As I was told it will be a brief pause before you will be with him again for eternity.

eugend66
eugend66
November 13, 2010 4:00 am

Thanks for sharing that. Your father was a great man

Novista
Novista
November 13, 2010 6:26 am

Jim, your father lives on in your words and our experience of them. Thank you.

thoughtcrime
thoughtcrime
November 13, 2010 9:01 am

Thank you so much for sharing the ideals your parents lived by and passed on to their children. So many of us didn’t get a dad, for many reasons. In my case, there was a male person there but he was never a dad, just someone to avoid at all costs. You are blessed to have had him and yes, I do know how much it can hurt to lose a loved one. However, I felt absolutely nothing when my dad died. We had no relationship at all.

Remember the good times. Your dad will never be truly gone as long as someone remembers him.

ragman
ragman
November 13, 2010 9:02 am

Your Dad was a fine man and accomplished the most outstanding goal a man can set for himself: He raised his sons to be honest, hard-working men themselves. I train airline pilots for a living and I always give them this advice: Enjoy your dad while you can. Find time to spend with him because when he’s gone, it’s forever. My dad has been gone for four years and I miss him every day. You and your family will get through these difficult times but it sure sucks.

ck
ck
November 13, 2010 10:45 am

My Dad went to work. My mom stayed home and raised us. He would come home from work and sit in his chair to read the Evening Bulletin. My mom would bring him a beer. We’d eat dinner as a family. He’d have another beer and usually drift off while reading the paper….I am who I am because of my Dad.

Jim,
My deepest condolences. Like others have mentioned, your dad sounds like mine. Mine drank Iron City and could park a car in any space that had only 2 inches to spare…I guess because he grew up in Brooklyn. I miss my dad, he didn’t live long enough to see any of his grandchildren.

I want to say this gently…please remember your mom in your memories…whether she is living or not. While my dad sat with his Iron City (or other on-sale brand) and read his paper, mom made dinner. She was the last to sit down and the first to get up. In fact, I have few memories of my mom sitting, unless she was sewing. Her day began when my dad got up. Her day ended after 10 pm, as she did all the ironing after dinner. Anyway, we are who we are because of our dads and moms.

Warm regards to you and yours.

ssgconway
ssgconway
November 13, 2010 12:03 pm

Sincerest condolences, Sir, to you and yours. The loss of a father is one of the days that marks a man’s life. He, like his generation, did what was right without expectation of reward and without complaint. Thank you sharing his memory with your readers.

Terry
Terry
November 13, 2010 4:21 pm

Jim –

There are men who stand tall even after they leave us. Clearly, your father was such a man.

ragman
ragman
November 13, 2010 8:33 pm

ssgconway: your comment was one of the finest ever posted. You are a true gentleman and a scholar, and there are few of us left.

MuckAbout
MuckAbout
November 13, 2010 9:23 pm

Everyone has a story. I live to hear as many as I can while in this mortal coil. The story of your family is not unique but special in its own way and I enjoyed reading the post from start to finish.

As you know, I’m an atheist and as such have no belief in life after death. However, I believe in the innate goodness of (most) men and women and it’s obvious that your Dad and Mom were among the finest of this breed – living for the future of their family and kids rather for themselves. They were good people and left behing good children and grandchildren. More than that, from Ma Nature’s point of view, they could not do.

All we can do on this earth is to leave it in better condition than when we found it (and to date we don’t seem to e dong it very well). In a simpler age as your parents lived (in its way) black was black, white was white, right was right and wrong was wrong. Today, things are are all shade of grey which complicates both marriage and raising children.

With you upbringing, there is no doubt in my mind that you father was as proud of you from day one and the day he died, that pride was still shining through. You have a wonderful loving family who you cherish and love and when the time comes (now that you are at the top of the heap – which is humbling situation to find yourself) you will pass the same way, loved, admired and missed by your children for as long as they live.

At 73, I’d give up two years (or more) of what life remains for me for just week or two with my Dad and Mom to be able to thank them – again – for what they did for me as I was growing up.

Chin up. Time heals all and while the hole where your Dad was will never be filled, it will indeed become shallower across time – just right, in fact to plant a tree in it in his honor or to just reflet peacefully on how his life effected yours.

All the best from the Muck

sensetti
sensetti
November 13, 2010 11:36 pm

What a man your father, words will not help and time will not heal such a loss. But you are your fathers son and will stand as he stood, that will see you through. Thank you for all you do.

Blue Skye
Blue Skye
November 14, 2010 3:53 am

When my father died, I sent a letter to my friends titled “Some men never get to meet their heroes”. One response was that my friend was jealous, not for my loss but for the opportunity that he never had.

ssgconway
ssgconway
November 14, 2010 3:48 pm

P.S. We never saw the 9th inning of a Tigers game, either.

Hotrod
Hotrod
November 14, 2010 8:30 pm

It sounds like your Dad was a true gentleman. How fortunate that his life lessons turned out a son who appreciated them. Mutual respect, I guess. Thank you for allowing us to meet your father through your heart felt written testimony.

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 14, 2010 10:08 pm

A+ Quinn, A+.

Dirty Billy

Robert Thompson
Robert Thompson
November 15, 2010 2:54 pm

I enjoyed reading this article. Thanks so much it reminds me of my own parents. People like your Dad are what made our countries great (I’m from Canada). It’s their values that we need to embrace to get though these tough times. Again thanks and take care.

Cheers

Rob

Fred Altum
Fred Altum
November 16, 2010 8:18 am

Thank you…

Daniel
Daniel
November 16, 2010 11:59 am

Jim, Thank you for sharing that loving tribute. Your Dad would be very proud. All the best, Daniel

Centerfield
Centerfield
November 16, 2010 5:54 pm

You are a good son. Your Dad is smiling. Mission (his) accomplished. My condolences to you and your family.

Cpt. Swindle
Cpt. Swindle
November 16, 2010 9:25 pm

Reading your wonderful article makes me sad not only for your loss but for our society as well. You were brought up in an honorable fashion that used to be the norm in this country. I am to young to have experienced any of that. The world I grew up in is awash with drugs and apathy. Multiculturalism has played an enormous part in this dumbed down immorality taking place and getting worse by the day. Another enormous part of why things are the way they are is now it is virtually impossible for middle class people to get by on one income. There are no more mothers for the majority of children growing up today. They grow up submerged in filth raised by the tv brainwashed to think dumbed down base immoral behavior is “normal” and “cool” I almost, almost regret bringing children into this garbage dumb society. I am 28 grew up in Bryn Mawr (not far from where you are writing about) and it just keeps on getting worse. I am sorry for your loss, and I am sorry for the loss of a once great people who conducted themselves with honor and integrity. Now those words are punchlines on BET.

Amman Mohammed
Amman Mohammed
November 19, 2010 6:19 am

Thank you for sharing your experience and your courage with these words.

Surly1
Surly1
November 6, 2011 9:25 am

A beautiful and moving tribute. As with most homegrown “heroes,” it’s nothing that they say, rather it’s how they live that makes a difference, and that keeps on living inside of us.

Lost my father 24 years ago, he was far too young. Still miss him every day. And am still surprised from time when I hear him coming out of my mouth.

A tender, and loving tribute. Your father clearly did a good job.

Hope@ZeroKelvin
Hope@ZeroKelvin
November 6, 2011 10:49 am

Beautiful tribute, Jim.

My Dad is 10 years gone this week. I miss his gentle, dry humor. I miss his wisdom about the world. I miss his knowledge about wood working. I miss watching Monty Python reruns with him and giggling like little kids. I miss seeing him in my medical school teeshirt that he wore until it fell apart, literally. I miss listening to classical music with him and watching him ‘conduct” it with the little conductor’s baton we got him for Christmas one year. There is so much I still miss about him ten years later I can’t even list it all, especially through the tears running down my face.

My Dad, like yours, was one of the finest human beings to ever graced this Earth. They were the absolute bedrock, the pillar, the foundation of all that is the very best of us, of our families, indeed of this country. Not simple, not fancy, not famous, not rich, just THERE, doing the job that was before them, trying to make the world a better place, one day at a time.

The greatest tribute to these men is to carry their values forward, being the bridge to future generations, you are spot on there.

But damn it’s hard.

card802
card802
June 15, 2014 8:04 pm

A very fine tribute, I wish I could write half as well.

My mom is suffering from congestive heart failure and may not last six months, her oxygen level was about 90 when she decided to go home, they admit you to emergency at that level but she refuses to go. Dad is early stages of dementia. When they go I’ll just cry because I can’t write for beans.

It was a melancholy Fathers Day gathering today for sure.

Tree Mike
Tree Mike
June 19, 2022 10:09 am

I wasn’t here until a few years ago. I now understand you much better, you’re a good man Charley Brown. Thanks for the back story, made me relive my dads passing in ’81. Tree Mike

Tree Mike
Tree Mike
  Tree Mike
June 19, 2022 12:47 pm

Oh Yeah…my dad was born in 1913, Zion, Ill. Blue collar, machinist, Ill. national guard in the 30’s, machinist building B-24’s in WW11 at Consolidated Aircraft in San Diego, met my mom, Alice the Riveter, got married, adopted me in 1951. I had the best Leave it to Beaver childhood. My dad’s life paralleled your dads in so many ways. I was raised with OLD school values. Thanks for kick starting so many good memories.

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 19, 2022 11:50 am

and St. Peter opened the gate and said “the drinks are on the house”…

Doc
Doc
June 19, 2022 11:55 am

Hi Jim,

I’m most sincerely sorry for your loss. I’m struggling to stay dry-eyed since there are some significant parallels with my own dad.

“I inherited his hate for traffic. We always parked on the street, about a half mile from the stadium. He wanted to beat the traffic. It has been a running joke in our family that we never saw a 9th inning at a Phillies game. Dad would make us leave in the 8th to beat the traffic.”

With us it was the Mets. He was also a product of the Great Depression and politically incorrect, and a whole slew of other similarities.

He raised you right, and I have no doubts that you will see him in Heaven.

Ray Jason
Ray Jason
June 19, 2022 4:38 pm

Hi Jim,

So sorry to learn of your Dad’s final voyage. Your tribute was superb and marked the passing of both a father and an era. I suspect that so many of us here who have benefited so much from your vision and diligence in running TBP, flail away on our laptops trying to defeat the Dark Tower of Davos not just because they are scum, but also because we can vividly remember those days when the world was more genuine, decent and joyous.

As I say when I am called on for ash spreading talks, “We live as long as our memory lives in the hearts and minds of others.” Your Dad will live a long time.

Please move your tribute up t0 the featured article slot. The recognition of a truly good man is way more important than the latest crap from political parasites.

Spencer
Spencer
June 19, 2022 10:32 pm

Absent from the body. Present with the Lord.. So hard losing who we love, but they are in the loving embrace of Jesus.

Thaisleeze
Thaisleeze
June 19, 2022 10:50 pm

My heart goes out to you and your family Jim. Great tribute.

Harrington Richardson: Gimme Sachwerte!
Harrington Richardson: Gimme Sachwerte!
June 19, 2022 10:58 pm

May God bless and keep him. I lost my Dad nine years ago and this morning I was missing him terribly. Their stories have much in common, especially the Irish Catholic part. The main difference is that in this part of the country you went to Minnesota or Wisconsin every summer. So sorry for your loss.

cz
cz
June 19, 2022 11:00 pm

great repost for father’s day.
i appreciate you sharing this with us.
i hope you had a great day/weekend

Llpoh
Llpoh
June 20, 2022 12:22 am

And again, thanks for reposting. Nice memories.