A fresh New York Times report has confirmed what many already suspected – that the CIA is still very active inside Ukraine – especially with training as well coordinating weapons among its Ukrainian allies. The Times report details “a stealthy network of commandos and spies rushing to provide weapons, intelligence and training,” based on US and European intelligence officials with knowledge of the operations. The report says Ukrainian forces are reliant on this Western clandestine network “more than ever” while outgunned by the Russians.
This comes months after investigative journalist Zach Dorfman’s bombshell expose in Yahoo News which detailed how a prior 8-year long CIA covert program to train Ukrainian fighters helped provoke the Russian invasion. The only question that remained after that March report was the extent to which the CIA was still active in the ongoing fight against the invading Russians.
The new Times reporting confirms that the US program is not only active and ongoing, but appears larger in scale than previously thought given the CIA’s close cooperation with the Ukrainians is happening both inside and outside the country, across multiple locations.
“Much of this work happens outside Ukraine, at bases in Germany, France and Britain, for example. But even as the Biden administration has declared it will not deploy American troops to Ukraine, some C.I.A. personnel have continued to operate in the country secretly, mostly in the capital, Kyiv, directing much of the vast amounts of intelligence the United States is sharing with Ukrainian forces, according to current and former officials,” the report indicates.
It appears much the CIA’s work in Ukraine is centered on coordinating intelligence with local intel services and counterparts. “Few other details have emerged about what the C.I.A. personnel or the commandos are doing, but their presence in the country — on top of the diplomatic staff members who returned after Russia gave up its siege of Kyiv — hints at the scale of the secretive effort to assist Ukraine that is underway and the risks that Washington and its allies are taking,” NY Times continues.
Over the weekend, Canada also has been reported to have special operations troops inside Ukraine. This was reported months ago, but with a separate NYT report offering further confirmation. “Both CTV and Global News reported in late January that Canadian special forces had been sent to Ukraine, but National Defence did not comment on that deployment,” Ottawa Citizen writes Sunday. Back in January, a full two months before the invasion, Yahoo News disclosed the following:
The CIA is overseeing a secret intensive training program in the U.S. for elite Ukrainian special operations forces and other intelligence personnel, according to five former intelligence and national security officials familiar with the initiative. The program, which started in 2015, is based at an undisclosed facility in the Southern U.S., according to some of those officials.
The CIA-trained forces could soon play a critical role on Ukraine’s eastern border, where Russian troops have massed in what many fear is preparation for an invasion. The U.S. and Russia started security talks earlier this week in Geneva but have failed thus far to reach any concrete agreement.
While the covert program, run by paramilitaries working for the CIA’s Ground Branch — now officially known as Ground Department — was established by the Obama administration after Russia’s invasion and annexation of Crimea in 2014, and expanded under the Trump administration, the Biden administration has further augmented it, said a former senior intelligence official in touch with colleagues in government.
These details further seems to authenticate those voices which have been insisting NATO and Russia are in fact waging a proxy war inside Ukraine, a label which Biden administration officials have previously sought to deny and downplay.
New York Times: The CIA has no idea what’s happening on the ground in Ukraine.
New York Times, 17 days later: Ukraine is full of CIA personnel. pic.twitter.com/zlea6upOWm— Caitlin Johnstone ⏳ (@caitoz) June 25, 2022
Writes NY Times further of the international nature of Ukraine’s on-the-ground assistance, “At the same time, a few dozen commandos from other NATO countries, including Britain, France, Canada and Lithuania, also have been working inside Ukraine.”
But the report adds the caveat that “The United States withdrew its own 150 military instructors before the war began in February, but commandos from these allies either remained or have gone in and out of the country since then, training and advising Ukrainian troops and providing an on-the-ground conduit for weapons and other aid, three U.S. officials said.”
This strongly suggests the very scenario that many long suspected: that CIA operations which had gone on for eight years in Ukraine didn’t wind down or cease upon the Feb.24 start of the Russian invasion, but only increased and were ramped up. Of course, the same goes for the Pentagon’s special operations presence inside the country and along its Western borders, particularly in Poland.
On Sunday, the Kremlin underscored angrily that even as such clandestine programs are made public via deliberate “leaks” to the media, Washington has refused to answer simple questions regarding Western operatives and mercenaries inside Ukraine – also after a couple of American fighters were recently captured.
So the NYT confirms that CIA and NATO “boots on the ground” have been in Ukraine all along, but two months ago you were a totally unhinged disinformation agent if you suspected this
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) June 26, 2022
Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said on Sunday:
“As [Russian Ambassador to London Andrey] Kelin said, they [Western countries] are writing some provocative, boorish things. They don’t want to answer the question we ask about their activities.”
She charged the West with only seeking to perpetuate the conflict, saying, “They are sparing no effort so that the conflict in Ukraine continued as long as possible. We remember what US 43rd President George Bush Jr said: Ukraine’s mission is to kill as many Russians as possible…. They have endowed Ukraine and the Kiev regime with this duty.
“They are using (Ukraine – TASS) as an instrument and the entire logistics are centered round that – weapons supplies, sending people, anything to keep the conflict burning, as [UK Prime Minister] Boris Johnson told [French President Emmanuel] Macron today, to prevent the settlement of this situation. Otherwise, their plan will fail,” Zakharova said according to TASS.
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Why is this news ?
Thought everyone knew this months ago.
Years ago.
Don’t you know — it’s not happening unless and until the NYTimes says it’s happening … they are, after all, the CIA mouthpiece …
Recycled from ZH, as all their followers have been banned for speaking freely.
When they set up their office there in 2014 like all good warriors they had to expand to keep getting bigger budgets.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/explosive-report-confirms-expansive-cia-stealth-network-spies-commandos-inside-ukraine
Hopefully Mr. Kinzhal will pay them a visit.
Yeah, they have been there for 8 years now.
THE C.I.A. IS DOING A HELLUVA JOB HELPING UKIENAZIS WIN THE WAR!!!
GOOOOOOO CIA !!!!!
Mmmm Papa Putin…. Please KGB all over my vulnerable country…. Mmmm…
Admiral John Kirby on Friday said Ukraine will determine the terms of any peace deal with Russia. Kirby insisted that Ukraine can fight on and win;
Question: How in the fuck does someone this motherfucking stupid become Admiral???
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Meanwhile, the Russian MoD today reported
—- ” …. today wiped out three brigades, by means of massive strike by stand-off weapons, of Ukraine Armed Forces, namely 65th, 66th motor-rifle brigades and 46th aeromobile brigade ”
A few more victories like this and the Ukies will capture Moscow in a week! hahaha
>>>President Zelensky is the one who gets to determine what victory looks like.
I saw that quote a day or two ago, and it IS amazing on several levels.
The vaccines are safe and effective, too!
UNDERSTANDING THE NY TIMES ARTICLE ON THE CIA IN UKRAINE
When you read some so-called bombshell report dishing the dirt on some Top Secret U.S. operation in the New York Times or the Washington Post, you need to understand that this was not the result of some intrepid, eager beaver reporter who took the initiative and came up with a nifty idea for a story. Such stories are based on official or sanctioned leaks and always have an ulterior motive. This is not so much about informing an ignorant public about reality, rather it is either propaganda or signalling a shift in U.S. policy.
The New York Times published such a piece today under the title, Commando Network Coordinates Flow of Weapons in Ukraine, Officials Say. Ooohhh! Commando Networks. Sounds sexy and sinister:
I want to ensure you understand the first key “talking point”–the C.I.A. is still in Ukraine and working with both Ukrainian military and intelligence services “directing vast amounts of intelligence.” This totally destroys any claim that the United States Intelligence Community does not know what is the true status and operational capability of the Ukrainian Army. You see, if you are passing intel to the Ukrainians you are also in a position to glean what they are capable of doing with such information.
Let me give you an example. Let’s say that the CIA bubba in Kiev gets word that Russians are massing 5 Battlion Tactical Groups northeast of Mariupol. Mr. CIA gives that intel, with precise geographic coordinates to his Ukrainian counterpart. One would expect the Ukrainians to launch some sort of attack with fixed wing aircraft or missiles or artillery or armored units on that Russian force. In the real case of Mariupol, Ukraine failed to stop the Russian offensive and the city was captured, along with 2500 members of Ukraine’s AZOV Battalion.
At that point, Mr. CIA bubba has to report back to headquarters in McLean, Virginia why Ukraine failed to act on the intelligence. Was it because the intel was wrong? Was it because Ukraine ignored the intel? Or was it because Ukraine had no operational resources capable of acting on that intel? Regardless of the answer, the information flowing back to CIA Headquarters is supposed to give the analysts some evidence for drawing conclusions about the failure to act on that intelligence.
The next critical talking point in the NY Times piece concerns the news that U.S. special forces and special operations forces supposedly are not operating in Ukraine. We have left that dirty, dangerous work to commandos from Britain, France, Canada and Lithuania.
But all of this is window dressing to distract from the real news in the NY Times piece. It is in the last five paragraphs of the article:
“Would the enhancement of the training be worth the possible price that is going to have to be paid?” Mr. Wise said. “An answer is probably not.”
Got that? The most acute problem is that the best Ukrainian troops are dead, wounded or captured. There are no first rate troops left to train. Oh my. That is a problem and the United States is not going to put any of our troops into harms way. That is, for now, the Biden Administration’s policy. Putting “modern special operations teams” on the ground to train Ukrainians is, per the NY Times piece, too great a risk and carries a price that is not worth the outcome.
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Let’s see. We started this shit. We paid off the piano dick dude. We and Euro-weenie ass-wipes, like Boris, egg on the Ukies to keep fighting and dropping like flies …. and now that the risks are seriously bad, we’re gonna bail the fuck out. “Thanks Ukies! Gotta run!”. Helluva message for all our other allies! (Do we really have any?)
Then again, not like we never pulled this shit before.
https://youtu.be/M6FRZ_auuhU
Lol triggered much, snowflake?
CIA Mercs are not spies, but we know they have spies there too.
You mean to say mercenaries are somehow [morally] better than spies?
Not at all, they just have different jobs.
The ‘special operations file image, via Sandboxx’ is an interesting one.
The left handed operator is covering left, the right handed operator right.
Conventional wisdom would have them the other way ’round, particularly in the scenario pictured.
Although perhaps in this instance ‘special operations’ could refer to the fact that they’re retarded.
They are proving to be as incompetent as they ever were.
This is actually quite reassuring because the US SF will do their usual stuff: kill the wrong people, turn up late because they forgot to set their watches to local time and stir up opposition by killing innocent civilians.
They sure can put a damper on a wedding though.
The Concerted Insurrection Agency? CIA
They had to go somewhere when they “unassed” Afghanistan early in June and July………….Actually the deployed DO guys are not the problems………It’s the bureaucratic clowns at Langley that are the problem.