There’s a 0.00002% Chance You’ve Got the Wrong Man

Guest Post by Ann Coulter

The use of DNA to arrest Bryan Kohberger for the murder of four college students in Idaho reminds me that it’s time to bring the death penalty back in a big way.

Notwithstanding the absence of a single example, the possibility of executing the “wrong man” has been the left’s main line against the death penalty for decades. It’s the only argument that has ever lessened Americans’ support for capital punishment.

Well, guess what? Thanks to the miracle of DNA, now there’s no risk! The murderer can usually be identified with greater than 99.99% accuracy.

Good news, right? Nope! As we now know (also with 99.99% accuracy), liberals never cared about executing the innocent. They just want to spring killers.

Until fairly recently, DNA was a one-way ratchet, used to free criminals, but rarely to catch and convict them.

Recall that DNA fingerprinting was only invented in 1984. The first time DNA was ever used as evidence in a U.S. court was in 1987. Courts weren’t sure what to make of this “novel” technology, and of course, it was treated like witchcraft by the O.J. jury in 1995.

Back then, genetic evidence was used primarily to overturn jury verdicts from the 1970s, ’80s and ’90s by poking holes in the prosecution’s theory of the crime.

The media whooped about every overturned conviction, falsely claiming the prisoner had been PROVED INNOCENT.

Hardly.

Suppose a child molester/murderer was convicted in 1998 based on the following evidence:

— Witnesses saw him abduct the child;

— Tire tracks by the body matched those on the defendant’s truck;

— His knife blade corresponded to the victim’s wounds;

— The child’s teddy bear was found in the defendant’s truck bed;

— When arrested, the accused had a written suicide note in his pocket, confessing to the crime;

— A strand of hair found on the defendant’s shoe was “consistent with” the victim’s hair.

If DNA testing later proved that the hair was not, in fact, the child’s, the conviction could be overturned. Who knows? The jury might have put a lot of stock in that strand of hair! Throw in allegations of “prosecutorial misconduct” or “ineffective assistance of counsel,” and stand back for the celebrities and nuns holding candlelight vigils!

The DNA didn’t prove “innocence”: It proved a strand of hair “consistent with” the victim’s did not belong to the victim after all. An overturned conviction may be “legal innocence” — like a Bronx jury refusing to convict — but it’s not “factual innocence.” Least of all did it warrant the words “proved innocent.”

The party ended when DNA began being used against criminals.

In 2018, investigators finally caught the Golden State Killer, who’d terrorized women across California in the 1970s and ’80s, murdering at least 13 people and raping dozens of women. Law enforcement ID’ed him by putting his DNA into two genealogy databases, GEDmatch and FamilyTreeDNA. It turned out to be Joseph James DeAngelo Jr., a former cop.

Normal people: Hurray! We got him!

Liberals: WE MUST PREVENT THE POLICE FROM USING DNA TO CATCH MURDERERS!

Wait a second! Weren’t you the ones worrying yourselves sick about the possibility of executing the innocent?

Until very recently, The New York Times op-ed page fairly bristled with columns insisting — in defiance of the evidence — that there were innocents on death row.

GUESS WHAT, NEW YORK TIMES? You can relax! There’s no danger of an innocent person being “strapped into an electric chair, or walked into a gas chamber, or injected with poison,” as Bob Herbert put it in 1994.

Forget human fallibility: We’ve got scientific infallibility. Trust the science, liberals!

Of course, as soon as DNA started being used to catch criminals rather than release them, the ACLU threw a fit, demanding that genealogy websites like Ancestry.com cease cooperating with law enforcement. No fair locking up killers!

As the Times explained: “Privacy advocates … have been worried about genetic genealogy since 2018.” Since 2018 … hmmm, why … oh, I see. That’s the year DNA was used to catch the Golden State Killer. Yeah, that sucked.

Google and Facebook know when we’re menstruating, we’re forced to undergo proctological exams at the airport, self-driving cars are careening onto sidewalks and killing pedestrians, but WE MUST PROTECT THE SERIAL KILLER’S PRIVACY!

This is the left’s specialty: Coming up with new ways to make life worse without enriching it. So now law enforcement has to face another pointless hurdle to solve heinous murders.

What possible explanation is there for this mentality other than that liberals want murderers on the streets? (Just not their streets.)

Genealogical websites merely allow forensic scientists to identify distant relatives of the person who left DNA at a crime scene — such as on the knife sheath lying next to one of the four murdered students in Idaho — in order to put some people in the ballpark and take others out. There’s no danger of getting the wrong man. To the contrary, DNA steers investigators away from the wrong man.

True, it will make life much harder for rapists, child molesters and murderers. It will put an end to “serial killers,” who will now get caught after their first kill. I’m trying to fathom who else would have a problem with it.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Democratic Party.

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hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
January 19, 2023 2:22 pm

Ann has a man crush.

Stucky
Stucky
  hardscrabble farmer
January 19, 2023 2:34 pm

Ann IS a man!

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Stucky
January 19, 2023 4:54 pm

Upvote, cuz you ain’t wrong.

anon a moos
anon a moos
January 19, 2023 2:24 pm

Can’t say ol anne’s wrong on this one.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  anon a moos
January 19, 2023 2:32 pm

Sometimes she’s on. This is one.

Mountainrat
Mountainrat
  anon a moos
January 19, 2023 2:32 pm

He (Ann) could not be more wrong.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  anon a moos
January 19, 2023 2:39 pm

I’d be fine with the death penalty whenever there’s DNA – like in this Idaho case – that puts an otherwise unconnected suspect at the scene. I don’t want people executed on the basis of eyewitness testimony, jailhouse informants or even confessions. Those thing are routinely wrong. Yes, even confessions. Mentally ill people, teenagers and imbeciles will commonly confess to things they didn’t do when pressured. I don’t trust the government in anything else. Why should I trust some prosecutor who wants to make a name for themselves for a senate run?

Stucky
Stucky
January 19, 2023 2:41 pm

“There’s no danger of getting the wrong man. To the contrary, DNA steers investigators away from the wrong man.”

Kiss my fat white ass.

What Ms. Adam’s Apple fails to say is that DNA is incredibly EASY for copfuks to plant!

I am NOT saying that’s what happened in this case. I am saying copfuks have a long history of planting evidence. OK, so DNA from Person X is firmly established. So what. How in the fuck do I know they didn’t put it there? I don’t. You don’t. So, take all this DNA “proof” with an extra large barrel of Soledar salt.

anon a moos
anon a moos
  Stucky
January 19, 2023 2:50 pm

Agreed. They could easily manufacture the evidences against you. If DNA was used solely then I’d agree they can’t put it were the sun don’t shine. But if a part of other evidences then it should have a higher weight in evidence.

Bottom line is the ‘justUS’ system is about as corrupt as any other govt fueled system. There will never be a system run by man that will seek to honestly find and incarcerate the guilty. Placing trust in any of the systems is beyond stupid, but the alternatives are to not even bother to look for them. Which is popular amongst some.

ken31
ken31
  Stucky
January 19, 2023 5:38 pm

It absolutely has happened that labs have been proven guilty of falsifying DNA evidence and that claims about its reliability have been lied about (at least in some cases and applications).

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  ken31
January 19, 2023 10:18 pm

Yep

Gmpatriot
Gmpatriot
  Stucky
January 19, 2023 7:11 pm

I have been suspicious of this case after watching last weeks teevee exposé declaring GUILTY to the lemmings too stoopid to get out of jury duty…..

goat
goat
  Gmpatriot
January 20, 2023 11:37 am

Yeah, that is never a good sign when all the usual suspects are trying to sell something. And I certainly include Coulter in that.

Euddolen ap Afallach
Euddolen ap Afallach
January 19, 2023 2:45 pm

If DNA evidence worked like live witnesses, it’s testimony would be disallowed as hearsay by each “multiplication” of the “sample”.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Euddolen ap Afallach
January 20, 2023 8:57 am

Perhaps “the chain of custody” violates the firsthand testimony/hearsay rules..?

Each person in a “chain of custody” is one more person removed from being an “eye witness” of the dna “evidence”.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 19, 2023 2:49 pm

What a disappointingly corrupt world we inhabit.

ken31
ken31
  Anonymous
January 19, 2023 5:39 pm

The less sinful among us have been saying this for thousands of years.

Dan
Dan
January 19, 2023 2:53 pm

I’ve got no problem with executing murderers, etc., but…

Used to watch “Forensic Files” a lot and usually impressed with cops’ ability to identify the bad guys. At some point, they started running episodes about the wrong guy maybe being put away or on death row. A lot of those cases involved petitions by the Innocence Project to have DNA testing done on old preserved evidence. The ones presented were nothing like Coulter suggests: the evidence would either completely clear the convict or incontrovertibly establish his guilt.

In all the cases I remember, the convict was practically begging for the tests to be performed, at no expense to the state since IP was paying for it, while the courts and prosecutors did everything they could to stall and keep the testing from being performed. It was pretty clear in most cases that a “wrong” result would expose prosecutors/judges as being incompetent, stupid, or corrupt. The fact that the guy behind bars was begging for the testing kind of tells you how things ultimately turned out, usually after years of legal proceedings.

That pretty much ended my support for the death penalty.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
January 19, 2023 3:03 pm

Lol, Adam’s Apple Ann isn’t quite ready to discuss execution for the Covid Scamsters, The Babylonian Money Majik People, and the War Mongers. You see, she might piss off the people she fronts for and who pay her.

Now when all of this fiat money goes worthless, which it is for every country on Earth except two, we shall see where she fits in all of this. She won’t be the first one, nor the last, but many of these people will end up lined up against a brick wall sometime, maybe even with a 7.62mm Nagant bullet in the back of the head.

DWEEZIL THE WEASEL
DWEEZIL THE WEASEL
  Coalclinker
January 19, 2023 3:34 pm

Sigh. There is a lot more to the U of I quadruple homicide than meets the eye. Moscow PD (which could not find their collective asses with both hands) had to rely on ISP and the Famous But Incompetent. Did they get their man? Probably. Will he get a “fair” trial? Well, here in Winterfell (Kootenai County) the Daily Fish Wrap and other local hysterics already have the defendant on a tumbrel cart headed to the National Razor.
But the prelim is not until June and who knows how long the process will go on. As a retired Peace Officer who has worked murders from the crime scene to the verdict, a lot more will be revealed and the whole issue of this crime of passion will be explained much to the consternation and embarrassment of some of the victim’s families. Their sordid lifestyles and behavior will all come out, if nothing more than to dirty up the victims. Defense attorneys do not subscribe to the Roman dictum: “De mortuis nil nisi bonum.”
But do not look for the death penalty unless the self-serving politicians, sheeple, normies, and cucks scream for vengeance. When Kootenai County tried the killer of KCSO Sergeant Moore back in 2016, the financial cost was staggering. And if this revenge-of-the-spurned-nerds offers a straight-up plea to all charges in exchange for his miserable life, my money is on Latah County to accept. They would have to borrow millions from the grinning idiot in Boise to try him and fry him. Stay tuned. Bleib ubrig.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  DWEEZIL THE WEASEL
January 19, 2023 6:04 pm

LOL, many years ago in Carter County, Kentucky, a teacher stabbed his wife to death. They started talking jewdiciary mumbo-jumbo, don’t you know. So a group of people removed him from jail, put him on a train, and hanged him from a trestle on June 7, 1892. My great great grandfather Pap Kazee was the ring leader. See how short and efficient my description of old time justice and the Porter Lynching is?

https://www.hmdb.org/m.asp?m=145353

Steve
Steve
  Coalclinker
January 20, 2023 4:02 am

That kind of justice works until you hang the wrong man.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Steve
January 20, 2023 6:25 am

….and in this country right now there are millions who don’t need to be alive. It’s them or you.

DS
DS
  DWEEZIL THE WEASEL
January 19, 2023 8:28 pm

I don’t know, man — sure seems like a lot of anomalous bullshit in this production

http://mileswmathis.com/idaho.pdf

Steve
Steve
  DWEEZIL THE WEASEL
January 20, 2023 4:02 am

This guy may be guilty or not – he certainly SEEMS to be guilty. However, how the hell does anyone these days get a fair trial if the media and social media are already calling him guilty? They haven’t chosen the jurors yet, and when they do, the 12 good people will have spent almost a year reading all this crap. No way they will be able to keep an open mind.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
January 19, 2023 4:06 pm

What’s to keep someone from uploading your DNA to one of these Ancestry registrars?

goat
goat
  Glock-N-Load
January 19, 2023 4:29 pm

Good question. What is to keep people from sending in DNA (for people they are related) of random people to muddy the waters, especially if they are criminals?

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Glock-N-Load
January 19, 2023 4:48 pm

We have a rule in my family. NO ONE is to use these genealogy registrars!

goat
goat
  Abigail Adams
January 19, 2023 4:58 pm

That was my rule too. It did as much good as telling them not to get the jabs, and they even knew better on both.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
January 19, 2023 4:10 pm

Fuck your downvote, whoever you are.

ken31
ken31
  Glock-N-Load
January 19, 2023 5:40 pm

Why let them bother you?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  ken31
January 19, 2023 6:51 pm

‘Cause he still believes in voting?

Steve
Steve
  Glock-N-Load
January 20, 2023 3:59 am

It’s called Free Speech, dude.

Captain_Obviuos
Captain_Obviuos
January 19, 2023 4:16 pm

When arrested, the accused had a written suicide note in his pocket, confessing to the crime;

As killers often do in these projects. Either that or a manifesto.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
January 19, 2023 4:30 pm

As if DNA can’t also be manipulated? This Idaho murder case is showing it can be.

So far they’ve only revealed they’ve found his DNA on the knife sheath which doesn’t prove he murdered anybody. Only thing it proves is at some point in time he touched that specific knife sheath. He could’ve previously owned it and later sold it. It could’ve belong to someone else and he borrowed it. DNA also doesn’t prove WHEN he touched this knife sheath. It also doesn’t prove he was in their apartment when he touched this knife sheath. He could’ve touch this knife sheath 5 years ago and nobody could prove otherwise because DNA testing has limitations.

DNA used in criminal cases isn’t full proof or stand alone evidence. It needs to tell a story. So far the prosecutors aren’t revealing their DNA evidence of the victim’s bodies or their theory of how he committed these murders. They haven’t revealed the motive. They haven’t revealed how he knew these students or if they had any previous interactions. They need to have a lot more DNA evidence to convict the guy of stabbing 4 people to death. Especially because Ka-Bar knives have been massed produced for 80 years now. It took less than a minute for me to find that exact type of USMC Ka-Bar knife on Amazon. Also, missing from the evidence is the actual murder weapon. A knife sheath can’t replace the actual murder weapon as evidence in a murder trial.

goat
goat
  Stephanie Shepard
January 19, 2023 4:35 pm

Seems a smart perp would drop some dna at the scene that didn’t point to the perp.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  goat
January 19, 2023 4:45 pm

^^^ That’s exactly what I’d do!!

goat
goat
  Abigail Adams
January 19, 2023 4:53 pm

I don’t remember what movie it was, but I think it was a heist movie, and they actually collected hair from a barber shop to leave in the car they used as a getaway car. If I remember correctly.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  goat
January 19, 2023 5:04 pm

Note to self: Bring my own broom and sweep up hair after each haircut.

JUST IN CASE…

goat
goat
  Abigail Adams
January 19, 2023 5:10 pm

I think they just paid the barber, but the trash has to go somewhere. Wonder where all the politicians in DC (or elsewhere) get their cuts from?

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  goat
January 19, 2023 5:15 pm

Ok, well then…my new haircutting system. Just ordered it.

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goat
goat
  Abigail Adams
January 19, 2023 5:23 pm

Good one. Couldn’t do any worse than I do myself. lol
The movie was “The Town” 2010.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0840361/
Gets good ratings, but I swear that is the only thing I remember about it. But that is one of main reasons I watch movies, as in 3 days of the condor. Will have to watch it again.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  goat
January 19, 2023 5:16 pm

DC perps’ haircuts? Hmmm…I like the way you think.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Abigail Adams
January 19, 2023 5:36 pm

😂😂 LOL. Very expected coming from you!

Gmpatriot
Gmpatriot
  Abigail Adams
January 19, 2023 7:18 pm

you spelled cumming wrong….

DS
DS
  Abigail Adams
January 19, 2023 8:38 pm

Old Dino Firebird: I decided to give this a listen after seeing you posting it for awhile… all I can say is — wow, fantastic !!!

DS
DS
  DS
January 19, 2023 9:47 pm

That Anton dude can really lay down some great grooves.

I was listening to this last night:

DS
DS
  DS
January 19, 2023 11:32 pm

Yeah Moby Grape was one of the San Francisco psychedelic bands in the late 60s, often considered the best but never went far due to bad management and some bad luck. The next installment (Part III) has a couple dynamite songs on it, also.

Jefferson Airplane is one of my favorite bands:

ken31
ken31
  DS
January 20, 2023 2:04 am

Based on your music taste, I am going to guess what you look for in a woman is that she be a woman.

Steve
Steve
  ken31
January 20, 2023 4:05 am

Jeez, Ken, you’re so picky! 🙂

Gmpatriot
Gmpatriot
  Abigail Adams
January 19, 2023 7:17 pm

Now THATS FUNNY I dont care who you are!

Zulu Foxtrot Golf
Zulu Foxtrot Golf
January 19, 2023 4:45 pm

….If the science behind it is reliable. Medical research obfuscation. Dont get me started on how many opportunities there are to frame people with “dna evidence.”

If the dude is a phd student for “criminology” then we have seen peak stupidity in higher education and should burn all universities down.

99.999999999% is still not mathematical certainty. Sorry, but math doesnt lie. Scientists and cops do though.

ZFG, out.

P.S. FJB is still at large and the captured alphabets avert their gaze. But oh noes four college students were murdered by a phd twat.

P.P.S. Fuck off Ann and find a 12inch king dong to loosen up that dried out raisin of a twat you claim to have.

P.P.S. eat a dick. There are real problems to worry people about like where am I going to get a good fucken burger tonight? I know. I will get that ribeye I bought from a rancher in Okeechobee and grind that up myself and devour a couple half pounders in a lettuce wrap.

#annisamandude
#eatmoreoppossum

DS
DS
  Zulu Foxtrot Golf
January 19, 2023 8:56 pm

Z — don’t get too worked up over this, it’s not even real

http://mileswmathis.com/idaho.pdf

IWantYourDOR
IWantYourDOR
January 19, 2023 5:30 pm

Almost all of my relatives have given over their blood, sweat, tears, or saliva to these databases (aka Genealogy research)… and they pay for it!!!!! Most of them also got their 4th “Boosters”

I am not a mass murderer, but I am a realist that understands these companies are sharing your info and making money by doing so. You can slap people in the face with truth, but 95% of them just don’t get it.

Yet here I stand with my Tinfoil hat!

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  IWantYourDOR
January 19, 2023 5:33 pm

Well, your life of crime is over! Thanks to your family.

IWantYourDOR
IWantYourDOR
  Abigail Adams
January 19, 2023 5:43 pm

Damnit, I’ve always wanted to pull off an after hours bank heist or museum fine arts steal. Guess I will just have to keep fantasizing while watching a movie. I do admire a good non-violent heist. Not the government type, but a real old fashion high end loot.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  IWantYourDOR
January 19, 2023 5:48 pm

“I do admire a good non-violent heist.”

Me too! Ever watch National Treasure with Nicholas Cage? He stole the Declaration of Independence. I loved that movie. Just something very sexy about pulling off these kind of heists. 😂

IWantYourDOR
IWantYourDOR
  Abigail Adams
January 19, 2023 5:56 pm

100% Abigail !

Jdog
Jdog
January 19, 2023 8:33 pm

While we all want vengeance on people who commit heinous crimes, it is an even more heinous crime to sanction giving the government the power to klll. The government is the biggest criminal of all, and needs it’s powers reduced not increased.