Medvedev Warns Russia’s Defeat In Ukraine Would Mean Nuclear War

Via ZeroHedge

Outspoken former Russian president and current deputy chairman of the security council Dmitry Medvedev has issued his latest stark warning to the West on Thursday, saying that if Russia is on the brink of defeat, nuclear war is likely to follow. He made the comments in a post on the Telegram messaging app. “The defeat of a nuclear power in a conventional war may trigger a nuclear war,” he began.

“Nuclear powers have never lost major conflicts on which their fate depends,” the former president, who in prior years had actually been seen as more dovish when compared to Putin, added. Medvedev’s comments came in reaction to news of a major meeting of Western defense leaders set for Friday at Ramstein Air Base in Germany.

Image via AP

“Tomorrow, at NATO’s Ramstein base, the great military leaders will discuss new tactics and strategies, as well as the supply of new heavy weapons and strike systems to Ukraine,” he wrote.

The meeting in Germany is expected to involve military commanders and officials from some 50 countries, the bulk of them being from NATO, and will seek to gain consensus on moving forward in terms of military and strategic support for Ukraine.

Central to the discussion will be whether or not to provide heavy tanks and longer range missile systems, and there’s also the question of aircraft, given Zelensky’s persistent request to help “close the skies”.

According to at least one prominent international outlet, the Kremlin has backed Medvedev’s ultra-provocative nuclear remarks as Western allies gear up for the Friday meeting:

The Kremlin was quick to endorse Medvedev’s remarks, saying they were in full accordance with Moscow’s principles.

Moscow’s doctrine allows for a nuclear attack after “aggression against the Russian Federation with conventional weapons when the very existence of the state is threatened”.

Medvedev hasn’t been shy about raising the specter of nuclear Armageddon throughout much of the 11-month conflict. He typically gives voice to the Kremlin’s ‘worst case’ – or most escalatory – way of thinking in response to the West escalation. His words often represent the ‘big stick’ approach from Moscow’s point of view.

Regardless of these fresh severe warnings, there’s growing consensus among Western powers that Ukraine needs heavy tanks. At the moment, all eyes are on Washington and Berlin, also while new German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius takes his post:

US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has said Berlin remains one of Washington’s most important allies at his first meeting with his new German counterpart before crunch talks on supplying German-made tanks to Ukraine.

“I’d like to thank the German government for all that it has done to strengthen Ukraine’s self-defense,” Austin said at the start of his talks with Boris Pistorius.

Additionally NATO’s Jen Stoltenberg said Thursday when speaking about the Ukraine war, “weapons are the way to peace.”

It’s increasingly looking like whatever comes out of the Ramstein meeting on Friday will determine the future course of the war – and whether de-escalation is at all possible at this point, given the mood among NATO allies definitely suggests they are gearing up for a bigger fight.

Meanwhile, the mood in Moscow

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43 Comments
C.A.L.
C.A.L.
January 19, 2023 3:21 pm

This 4th Turning ain’t your grandma’s 4th Turning. This one could very well be the last one.
Failing empires have always used their biggest weapons in desperation.
Our weapons, today, are too many and too powerful.
There is no guarantee anyone survives through this 4th Turning.
Hi ho

Tt4head
Tt4head
  C.A.L.
January 19, 2023 7:27 pm

All the so called “turnings” humanity has witnessed over millenia have largely been without biblical reasons, erupting from pure human greed and pride. I do believe this one is different and may be called Armageddon.

ken31
ken31
  Tt4head
January 20, 2023 1:58 am

Probably so did the people of all those other turnings. If God wanted us to know the hour, he would have told us. He has done so before.

Saxons Wrath
Saxons Wrath
  Tt4head
January 20, 2023 8:00 am

Jim Morrison sang…(precognitively?)

“Come on baby,
Light my fire,
Try to set the night on fire…”

Truly a man ahead of his time!!!

Oh, and don’t forget…
Russia, Russia, Russia!!!

Reading (anything) is Fundamental
Reading (anything) is Fundamental
  Tt4head
January 20, 2023 8:27 am

“…largely been without Biblical Reasons..”

Daniel 2:21
“And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:”

King James Version (KJV)

bjohn
bjohn
  C.A.L.
January 20, 2023 12:52 am

Fear porn.

Grow a pair and man up.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
January 19, 2023 3:22 pm

Not only does the US want to risk nuclear war with Russia, some in the US are saying that we should risk nuclear war with China over Taiwan.

Pagan Truth Seeker
Pagan Truth Seeker
  Iska Waran
January 19, 2023 7:25 pm

The NWO certainly intends to crash the West and they will use any tools available. Russia, China, Dumbing down of America, fiat money, that’s fine.

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
  Pagan Truth Seeker
January 19, 2023 8:35 pm

What strikes me the most is the MSM praise and support of feral nigger behavior as if it were a positive thing….an evolution to a better world….until one of their daughter’s car breaks down on MLK Blvd after 8pm on anyday of the fucking calendar.

Bob
Bob
January 19, 2023 3:22 pm

This is that point in history that Charlton Hesston referenced when ponds the sand and calls us all fools.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
January 19, 2023 3:26 pm

This article from a few days ago

DESTROYING MONSTERS BY HELMHOLTZ SMITH

explains why some in the US root for Russia:

(they see) “An America of war all the time everywhere, of tent cities and full jails, of open borders, disappeared manufacturing, opiates, misery, poverty, corruption. An America with endless money to spend abroad but none to spend at home. (The hundred billion dollars dumped into Ukraine would give a $200,000 house to every one of the estimated half million homeless in the USA!) An America failing, no longer the American they loved, served and believed in. The Twitter revelations show some of the activities of this enemy embedded in the American polity. It’s very late and many fear that it is too late.

How to get this leech off America’s back? Voting can’t make much difference if both parties are manipulated. Is the voting system itself corrupted? Can the judicial system be trusted? Special counsels who report when it’s too late to matter? The managed media? Some may still believe in these things but the people I’m talking about don’t any more.

They can only see one way that the power of this internal enemy can be broken – complete and utter defeat. Defeat that cannot be ignored, cannot be explained away, defeat too big and too obvious for the obedient mass media to bury.”

Dying Sun
Dying Sun
  Iska Waran
January 19, 2023 3:40 pm

At the end of that same article:

The West is ruled by corrupt fools who are sending it to disaster – it is circling the drain of history. The hope is that Russian victory will burst the bubble, the internal enemy will be got rid of and these countries will start to mind their own business, care for their own populations and forget about the (mostly imaginary) monsters out there.

This is why some of us support Russia.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Dying Sun
January 19, 2023 5:43 pm

I think a lot of people are confusing contempt for the American political/intellectual/corporatocracy with support for a foreign country.

America was carjacked by hostile minorities not descended from the Founder’s posterity. They have no concern for this Nation or the population, clearly. Now it’s up to Nature to discover which of Her offspring possess the will to survive and which is willing to surrender their vast inheritance to oblivion.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  Dying Sun
January 19, 2023 10:13 pm

Many do, because we despise our rulers and the American endless war machine…That has to stop.

bjohn
bjohn
  Dying Sun
January 20, 2023 12:59 am

I don’t support Russia because HELLO they invaded Ukraine.

And I still have a sense of justice.

But without a doubt the US military is weakening itself with every idiotic humanistic immoral decision they make. Women in combat. Trannies. Homosexuals. etc ad nauseum.

The US military will suffer a disasterous defeat in the near future.

Connovarn
Connovarn
  bjohn
January 20, 2023 3:38 am

The Russians had no choice, do your homework.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Iska Waran
January 20, 2023 1:37 am

I support Russia because I know the truth. The bankrupt USA started this war because Russia told the world they didn’t want any more counterfeit $s in exchange for their real goods and energy. Putin is the leader of the free world and Biden is and always has been a filthy, corrupt, piece of shit.

m
m
January 19, 2023 3:31 pm

Oh my gawd!
I’m sure the Russian never had any air defense systems in Moscow before, especially not close to the Kremlin, and now this shows how nervous they’re getting!!1!

Uff, this bending reality is getting really difficult…

Stucky
Stucky
January 19, 2023 3:46 pm

Other …

“In prime time, 8 and 9 PM hours, butt-fucker fagboi Anderson Cooper draws only 50 thousand key demo viewers,”

50K??????? hahhahahahahahahahaha …. CuNNt might go bankrupt at this rate.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Stucky
January 19, 2023 4:46 pm

Tucker does around 3,000 000. Sad that it’s that few.

jayrockstone
jayrockstone
  MrLiberty
January 20, 2023 9:01 am

It might be much higher if Fox News hadn’t sold out to the dark side. I watch clips of Tucker on other websites, but I will give no ratings whatsoever to any organization complicit in the destruction of what was once our country.

GrungeVet
GrungeVet
January 19, 2023 3:52 pm

We aren’t that lucky.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
January 19, 2023 5:31 pm

Additionally NATO’s Jen Stoltenberg said Thursday when speaking about the Ukraine war, “weapons are the way to peace.”

There is a lot to unpack in that statement.

ken31
ken31
  hardscrabble farmer
January 19, 2023 5:35 pm

Let me break it down for you.

In order to save a village, it needs to be destroyed. In order to destroy the village, you need weapons. After the village is destroyed, the people who ordered it will be at peace.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  hardscrabble farmer
January 19, 2023 10:14 pm

As Tacitus wrote, “they make a desert and call it peace.”

bjohn
bjohn
  hardscrabble farmer
January 20, 2023 1:07 am

Let me splain.

Russia is attempting to rebuild the Soviet Empire.

Russia must be defeated in Ukraine, or Poland, or Lithania or wherever they choose to invade next.

Tyrants never stop until they are forcibly stopped.

Burn as much of their resources as possible in Ukraine. If the dragon wants to join, then let him.

Did youse guys graduate from Neville Chamberlain School of Diplomacy?

ken31
ken31
  bjohn
January 20, 2023 2:00 am

Well said, glownigger.

jayrockstone
jayrockstone
  bjohn
January 20, 2023 9:05 am

You apparently have absolutely no grip on reality. There will never again be a “soviet empire”, but all of the Donbass will be part of Russia. Several nations will fight over what scraps remain of Ukraine.

ASIG
ASIG
January 19, 2023 5:40 pm

It should be clear by now that whoever they are that are driving US NATO policy are determined to conquer Russia no matter the cost because Russia is an obstacle to their NWO, One World Government and a Nuclear War would be just fine since it would achieve the main/final goal anyway which is the destruction of Russia, US and NATO . No doubt Putin already understands this, that it is now do or die, he has to go all out he has no choice.

“for in one hour is thy Judgement come”

Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
January 19, 2023 5:54 pm

Fuck around and find out?

(some retard official or front line techno-troop will wind up getting all of us flash-broiled)

Gmpatriot
Gmpatriot
  Aunt Acid
January 19, 2023 6:53 pm

IM at ground zero working at Shaw AFB, maybe Ill get to see the flash b4 I vaporize….about as bad at home with the Savanna River site in my backyard……..

C.A.L.
C.A.L.
  Aunt Acid
January 20, 2023 1:26 am

I’m reminded of the line from V for Vendetta.
“Someone will do something stupid” and the dominoes will tumble.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 19, 2023 6:06 pm

‘the great military leaders’… referring to the western power’s military leaders. Well, in America that means fully nonfunctional trannies throughout the forces, all pronouns covered assiduously and buggery in the ranks firmly approved. Now, for that leadership part of the equation… no… none to be seen.

Paleocon
Paleocon
January 19, 2023 6:16 pm

I have to call the doctor every time Medvedev talks like this because of an erection lasting longer than 4 hours.

GW
GW
January 19, 2023 6:28 pm

Future’s so bright, I gotta wear shades.

Eddie
Eddie
  GW
January 19, 2023 9:55 pm

That’s funny!

Tr4head
Tr4head
January 19, 2023 7:23 pm

The World War Resetters for Communism are taking the world to Armageddon by VAX or Bomb. All over a totalitarian
Leftist govt? Good news is DC is a prime target. Madness.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/01/19/ukraine-war-kyiv-calls-for-considerable-boost-in-military-aid-a79981

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
January 19, 2023 9:47 pm

Hug your loved ones every chance you get and just keep on keeping on. There is no other choice. We are a product of the time we were born into.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
January 19, 2023 10:11 pm

Fortunately, there’s no risk of Russia losing a conventional war, though Ukraine may be able to wangle some kind of peace deal if they do it quickly enough….But what’s the risk if NATO. enters and loses? The (((crazies))) in the State Department just might go there…Hopefully, the Pentagon would refuse…

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
January 19, 2023 10:41 pm

False flag incoming?

Yahsure
Yahsure
January 19, 2023 11:38 pm

Smart people don’t poke bears. All the NATO members are idiots from what I see.

bjohn
bjohn
January 20, 2023 12:50 am

Nuclear war? I say GOOD.

I am tired of the nuke fear porn and extortion.

Listen up TARDS: A nuke is a bomb. That is all.

Avoid the blast, dont stare at the flash, and avoid the fallout.

Likely targets?
Military bases and population centers.

Honestly, visualize an America without NYC, DC, Chicago, Philly, Boston, Miami, Houston, SF & LA. Be still my heart!

Where do I sign up?

Post a US shithole city you would suggest the Russholes bomb.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  bjohn
January 20, 2023 8:03 am

What city do you live in? Put it at the top of my list. Just be fast on your feet and you’ll be fine.