A new Christian group spent $20 Million dollars for two ads during the Super Bowl. Wow, huh? Well, Alexandria Occasio Nocortex went batshit crazy … natch … saying Jesus would never do (or approve) of such a thing.
Below are 5 videos they’ve done. They range from 30 to 60 SECONDS. It takes just 3.5 minutes to watch all five of them. You must watch them to answer today’s two questions.
Q1: Is AOC correct? In other words, the age old question; WWJD?
Q2: What do you think about the videos? Specifically, do the videos accurately portray Jesus’ message?
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THE VIDEOS
BE CHILDLIKE
WHORES AT THE DINNER TABLE
LOVE YOUR ENEMIES
JESUS WAS POOR
HATING THE STATUS QUO AND THOSE IN POWER
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Me?
Q1: AOC has never been correct about anything substantial in her entire life. And for this godless prostitute to claim she knows the mind of Jesus is come serious Looish hutzpah! Screw her. Well … not really!
I’ll take a stab at guessing the mind of Jesus. He healed the poor, provided for them, collected funds for them, blessed them, and loved them. I doubt he’s have any problem merely spending some loot to get His message out to Billions of souls.
Q2: Love your enemies. Dining with sluts and thieves. Fighting for the poor while staying poor. Despising the rich and the fake authorities. IF THAT’S NOT THE CHRISTIAN MESSAGE THEN I DON’T KNOW WHAT IS!!
I wish these folks all the success in the world. We need more groups like this. Many more. Maranatha.
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SOURCE: THE “HE GETS US” WEBSITE ….
…. is https://hegetsus.com/en
THE END
Wow. Excellent post. This has the potential to go super deep…and in different angles.
I’ll hold my thoughts on this as they are not refined enough, but curious to see what others say.
Wish Red River D was still around…would love to see his thoughts.
My initial reaction is that I didn’t like the videos, but I’m persuadable on this topic.
Im no RRD, but…
I have now watched each video.
Psychologically, they absolutley scream: FEAR. FEAR of the masses by those that see themselves as above all of us.
The entire message of each commerical is: ACCEPT & DO NOTHING.
1.) Be a Child. NO. That’s part of what got us here.
2.) Love Everyone. NO. I will not eat green eggs with Fauci…
3.) Love Enemies. NO. Real enemies, that want us dead, are enemies of all that is Godly. They have been let loose and destroyed much.
4.) Be Poor. NO. I will invest my gold talents and create better lives for others since I’m not a greedy SOB and recognize that cooperation and rewards go a long way in creating more “good”.
5.) Go Lightly on the Evil in Power. NO. If those graced with power and leadership become murderously abusive, they will die by the sword and The Lord shall be recognized and the people will rejoice.
PURE PROPAGANDA with a Jesus Bow on top.
In Jesus’s name… Now THAT is taking the Lords Name In Vain.
You asked for 2 cents….I left at least 3.
Wow. You and I are on the exact same page. I detailed each one below too (not as succinct as you – you did much better).
“PURE PROPAGANDA with a Jesus Bow on top.”
Perfect summation.
“4.) Be Poor. NO. I will invest my gold talents and create better lives for others since I’m not a greedy SOB and recognize that cooperation and rewards go a long way in creating more “good”
That was appreciated.
So was the rest of it.
I’d say you left a whole dollar’s worth … thanks for saying what needs to be said … propaganda from any side is still propaganda … and it always aims to push US in a way that’s not in our best interests.
You have ZERO … no, LESS than zero comprehension of what Jesus preached and lived.
Let’s take the easiest one; Love your enemies. You respond with a big fat “NO”! Especially those who want you dead. And that’s OK. You have free will to do whatever you wish.
However …. THIS is what Jesus said in Mt. 5:44
“But I say, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you!”
How could His message possibly any clearer???
So, go ahead. Pervert this exceedingly straight-forward and simple truth to something of your own liking. Go ahead and mold Gumby Jesus into whatever shape and form YOU want him to be. Why not? Millions of people over thousands of years have done exactly that. You’re nothing special.
The offensive part of your post is that in your hubris, bloody arrogance, and heavy ignorance that you have the audacity to claim Jesus’ clear command to “love your enemy” as being ….“propaganda”?? You fool!!!
Oh my…
*****ADMIN*****
How can I delete my comment below before Stucky reads it??
Too late.
I’m a fool.
I’m a fool.
I’m a fool.
There, saved you the effort.
Stop it. You are no fool. I know by your own statements that you are “new” to Christianity. You get several “Get out of jail” cards.
Have you started reading the “Knowing God” book? What are you using for your Bible studies?
Anyway, let me take the liberty to give you a warning; in my opinion don’t read anything ever posted by GCP or flash. One is deluded and the other is perpetually pissed off, and both will lead you into Dark Pits Of Spiritual Gloom.
Whew! Hell hath no fury like being on Stucky’s bad side.
I have “Knowing God” and “Letters of John” in my possession now, but have not started reading them yet. I’m finishing up some others that I got for Christmas, but almost done. Will start reading them soon. I’ll let you know what I think.
Ha Ha!
You are welcome to your opinion. I think your interpretation is insane and you are going straight to hell.
And I could come back and spit bible verses to “prove” that YOU ARE THE FOOL!!!
You asked. Others might not agree.
You got your church and others have theirs.
If you don’t want to hear it without insulting, then don’t ask.
1 AOC has mush for brains, on a good day. 2 Accurate. If these were a normal representative of MSM advertising i might consider getting cable again- NAHHHH not that desperate.
Jesus loves the Drunkards, the whores and the Queers………………
Ashley McBryde & Benjy Davis – Gospel Night At The Strip Club
(Based on a true story)
Religion , Is for people scared of going to hell…………..
Spirituality, Is For people, Who have Already Been there.
However, Hell is a real place if you don’t accept Jesus’ forgiveness that you will be, Cast out in utter darkness. could you imagine being alone forever, never seeing light again. That’s why He said it (Hell) will be a place where there will be weeping and the gnashing of teeth. FOREVER, that would be for eternity. Am I worthy of the forgiveness? Not in my wildest dreams. I deserve Hell. I’m just happy for his grace and patients.
Q1; No. AOC is clearly feeling usurped and threatened by these commercials.
Q2; Specifically Jesus would approve these messages when put in HIS context.
Without context the messages are ” nice” (naive) and wouldn’t stick in the viewers minds. Without looking into the organization’s credibility I can’t offer much more than saying they were a nice change of style than what’s usually aired.
“Who is armed?”, HE asked.
A little propagandist. But ten times better than the big pharma and homo commercials that inundate television. If it offends AOC it has to be good.
Ok, I was looking for that word – and you were the first one to use it. Yes, I immediately said to myself, “This is propaganda.” Big time.
BUT…OMG, I hate to agree with AOC!! I think we didn’t like it for different reasons, though.
I look at is as the commercials were made for the almost illiterate masses. Not for those who have an understanding of the message Christ taught.
I saw the 3rd one, and watched it through, on tv like 30 minutes ago – on a Wed. night…
I told my kid that was “the most powerful Jesus commericial I have ever seen”.
“Jesus commercial”. Selling. Jesus. For money? Then, it’s Big Tent Miracle Bullshit Time.
Mixed thoughts about it.
Are “enemies” those who just vehemently disagree or “fight” with you? Are “enemies” those who want you dead or covet your things to the point of wanting you dead or create covert selfish plans while speaking out of both sides of their mouth, that involve getting others dead?
The first I might “love” (meaning not beat or kill, maybe even scream or talk to each other with full animosity intact – compromise is a possibility).
The second groups should be treated accordingly, no compromise is possible due to THEM. So saith The Lord.
Yes, most definitely for the illiterate masses.
BE CHILDLIKE: Problem I have with this is the tag line –> Jesus didn’t want us to act like adults.
Blasting that message out to the masses will cause confusion. With so many “adults” in our society who never really grew up and never really “found themselves” or found their mission in life or convictions, then I believe it is the wrong message to send to the illiterates. It is the perfect message for elites to blast out to get the masses to view those in authority as experts (almost parental in nature) and to gain compliance. Now if the message meant to convey that we should look to a higher power with childlike wonder (like Lucy Pevensie in Narnia where she could see things her older siblings couldn’t because she was still young), then I believe the message failed.
WHORES AT THE DINNER TABLE: This one feels good on the surface, but I feel there is a deeper message of pushing tolerance. To me, it screamed LOVE NOT HATE – and who do you often hear this message from? Yes, we should be compassionate as Christians, but there comes a point where somethings absolutely should not be tolerated. Doesn’t mean we have to hurt those people necessarily, but they sure as hell are not welcome at my dinner table.
LOVE YOUR ENEMIES: Again, it’s a LOVE NOT HATE message. Feels good on the surface, but the deeper message is accepting your enemies. Love thy neighbor does not mean acceptance – I don’t believe. Unfortunately, the people in this nation are at an impasse. There is no way around it. The Bible even says there are seasons. We are not in a good season right now and we will have to push through the winter to get to the other side. And the images of hate just add to the propaganda because it doesn’t make anyone feel good inside.
JESUS WAS POOR: Well, ok, yes. But this feels like we are to be accepting of our station in life. Not that the American Dream exists anymore, but why the message of hopelessness about our situation just because Jesus was poor? Doesn’t make sense to me. There is nothing evil about trying to improve yourself and build wealth. You can do a lot of good things with your wealth. I feel like the message missed that point. We do not have to despair.
HATING THE STATUS QUO AND THOSE IN POWER: Wow. I feel like this one speaks for itself. Are they talking about Klaus Schwab or Jesus? The message at the end states –> Jesus had to control his outrage, too. WOW! Every one of us has the right to be outraged right now. Righteous anger. Pure propaganda, IMO.
Now, I’m just a toddler when it comes to Christianity. But this is how I see these messages. I would not be surprised if TBTP helped put it together. It feels like the overall message is to be tolerant, compliant, and accepting of your station in life.
I’m sure Stucky will have excellent counter-arguments that I’d love to hear.
(I banged this out quickly, so there may be a ton of errors.)
Upvote AA – we are in agreement and wrote the same thing…
We posted like 10 minutes apart, too. I missed yours before I responded to you up top.
I bet many here see it similarly or the same.
IF mine was more succint, yours was certainly more thoughtful/insightful.
Late to the party. Good deconstruction Abby. They were obviously made to appeal to emotion.
I missed somehow the one about not hating Status Quo. Christ absolutely had moral outrage against the Pharisees and Sadducees. Not to mention fashioning a whip and over turning tables and driving the money changers out of the Temple.
The back story, for the previous post!
“Despising the rich”
I’m not sure that he taught that so much as he taught us not to worship them or their money.
But yeah – I think the message is supposed to be unity over division. And I think, from a ‘marketing His message’ perspective He’d be cool with it.
For me personally. The 1st video about being childlike is a bit of a miss. We’re supposed to love our fellow man but it doesn’t mean we have to enjoy his company or be childish about it. We can respect one another and be gracious without acting like children. IMHO.
On a slightly different topic, have you been following the revival going on in Kentucky?
Yes, a spiritual revival at Asbury University. It began at a routine campus chapel service. The website for Christianity Today has a good article.
I just posted some footage from Twatter for tomorrow.
The message is stark division, but also love. The programmed dialectics carefully avoid this combination.
What might your opinion be if instead of children there were lambs in the first video?
Did someone say lamb?
If not for lamb, it’s likely the mint plant would never have evolved.
“Despising the rich and the fake authorities. IF THAT’S NOT THE CHRISTIAN MESSAGE THEN I DON’T KNOW WHAT IS!!”
So then Jesus “despised” those who did not abide by his principles? That sounds more like what’s in the Old Testament and what AOC is all about.
Myself, I despise the “authorities” and others who bow to and support the cretins in D.C and so many other places, but I’m not against rich people, unless they are like Gates, Gore, and the like. Quite a large number of rich people got that way by having provided a service or product that was beneficial to the buyers.
Jesus said he did not come to destroy but to save. He also made clear that eventually judgement will come to all. I will patiently wait to see what that means in the end. We were just thrown a life saver, we weren’t taken aboard and given advanced classes. Although, I am not qualified to interpret prophecy.
For me, prophecy is a witness to God’s power and presence in hindsight. I am sure that concept would really bother the eggheads, so I’ll say a prayer for them.
Also:
Matthew 10:34–36
Not Peace, but a Sword
34 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household.
https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-sword.html
Which means God comes before all other obligations and loyalties, if we are to join his Kingdom.
Yes.
From the perspective of the Apostolic Church of Christ (Orthodox) the messages in all the videos reflect the basic tenets of the Christian Gospel(s). These tenets of compassion and tolerance are the foundation of Christian faith as passed down from Christ to the Apostles and from them to the Church today. I watched every one and saw nothing I could dispute or disagree with (very un-Stucky like).
Is tolerance really part of the Christian faith though?
(flash???)
Word.
For some reason God seems to tolerate us. I suspect even his tolerance has it’s limits.
Kind of like being a gardener and having to deal with bugs plus plant and soil diseases. But you never give up, because the reward is greater than the pain. God is the gardener and we are his plants.
He loves us, warts and all. Satans cabal, not so much.
HE loves you so much HE can’t even look upon you because of the sinful Nature of your life. Until you accept Jesus as Lord and King of your life and your sins blotted out, you might as well not exist as far as GOD is concerned.
The kicker however is not continuing in sin. Hum, difficult one , huh?
Flash has always been wrong about his stance on tolerance.
An allusion to an utterance of Jesus in John 8:7, viz. “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
This is a basic tenet of what Jesus taught. Not the church, but what Jesus actually taught and practiced. If tolerance is not a part of love and forgiveness, what is?
So shall we tolerate the intolerable? What is intolerable? Pedophilia? Shall we tolerate pedophiles? Shall we accept the unacceptable? What is unacceptable? The list is endless, start with mass murder and lies perpetrated by the Covid Vaxx pushers and work your way down.
I have no use for insipid and saccharine propaganda that pushes an agenda. We have the open borders of tolerance and acceptance going great guns since Obiden stole the office and look what all that tolerance and acceptance has gotten us. This is the kind of nonsense that gets people killed. How many stupid young women ‘tolerated’ those muslim ‘refugees’before they were raped and murdered?
Jesus wasn’t here to bring the world together in one giant love-fest circle jerk, he stated that he was here to turn mother against daughter and son against father…Matthew 10:35
Jesus said to his Apostles: “Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon the earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one’s enemies will be those of his household.”
Does that sound like Christ was open and accepting of anyone and anything? Hardly.
Jesus also mentioned harming little children. Pedophiles are not to be tolerated.
It’s like this. Repent.
I thin it is very simple. We tolerate the little things. The big things is why we have police and jails, and once they have paid for their crimes, we can then again be tolerant.
You go to jail because you break the law. Who makes our laws? What makes a criminal? Are our laws made with Christian virtues in mind? Some people think taxation is theft. Some would legalize pedophilia. You get the point….
They sure used to be!
but
Boy, talk about cognitive dissonance. Within two hours you went from “Jesus said tolerate everything” — a lie; to “man-made law trumps God’s law” — a lie; while entirely skipping over the truth in the middle.
Adultery was, and still is, one of those “big things” and yet there’s no man-made law against it (in the west).
You left out what Jesus said to the adulteress after everyone dropped their stones. Even the Gospel leaves out whether she actually followed his command, but Christ was clear on the consequences of not adhering to his command — hint: the consequence wasn’t “tolerance”.
Adultery will get one’s ass shot as in dead.
That which we tolerate now will later be accepted. God does not tolerate sin and neither should I as a Christian. Love the sinner but hate the sin/behavior. When did queers become gays? Neither is an accurate label, although one is closer to truth
For the thumbs down. So we don’t tolerate different opinions. Maybe you don’t belong on TBP. Maybe Jim should be intolerant and kick you off. Then it would be just like the old Twitter, and facebook. The little things we tolerate. Crime we do not.
Jesus also told the woman “Go, and sin no more”.
I submit that what He said does not mean what people think.
It is not possible for us to live a sinless life in the flesh. If it were, then Jesus was an unnecessary waste of time and a fraud…the Righteous have no need of salvation.
In order for a life jacket to work, you must first put it on.
Jesus also told the woman “Go, and sin no more”.
“And so she, after going forth from him, continued to live her in her faith,
scrupulously maintaining the exact
same numbers of sins each day, for all
the remainder of her days.”
I think you are confusing tolerance and humility. Having humility doesn’t mean you tolerate bad behaviour, it just means you’re smart enough to look inside and not to throw stones. Literally or metaphorically.
I think what Jesus wasn’t trying to show them was they, bring imperfect themselves, we’re not qualified to exact perfect judgement on another sinner, best way I can say it for now.
“was trying”
Niggers are not my neighbor, but nor shall I persecute them, for once we were foreigners. .
Lol, I don’t have but one black neighbor and he is about a mile from me. I don’t think about it for there are plenty of deadbeat others around here that know nothing but sucking the government tit. Others sit on the front porch every day drinking a case of “welfare” beer as well.
True enough, but I make an effort to help them if the opportunity presents. Pearls before swine is in there, too.
Helping folk is good; enabling folk to persist in destructive behavior is not.
FWIW I no longer consider sitting on one’s butt, while maximally ripping off government programs, to be ‘destructive’ behavior.
No. God created man. God created woman. Anything other than, no tolerance.
I did not watch the vids ( advertisements). Don’t care to. I’ve only seen wording on TV ads , the “He Gets US”. I have read others voicing objection.
First SB game I’ve watched in many years. As with all ads and the halftime show, mute, get up, leave room for a while. I missed the second half kickoff as a result. Big deal.
Raquel Welch died today. RIP
The clock sure moves fast.
Yeah, but a thing of beauty is a joy forever.
Lovely Raquel… the one woman most responsible for ending the era of the Hollywood Blonde Bombshell.
I felt Raquel W didn’t move her arms enough in her work.
Jesus walked around and preached. He did not build places of worship for people to come to.
If Jesus were alive today, looking the way he allegedly looked, no one would listen to him, assuming he was a drug addled vagrant, talking crazy shit.
Maybe if he preformed some miracles……..
I think AOC is a parasite with diarrhea of the mouth, but in this case she has a point.
I think the videos are meant for the lowest common denominators and for the money could have been done way better. I “get” the message but the delivery sucked.
Regardless, it got you thinking. That was the goal.
Jesus gave a path to follow.
Not a chair to sit.
Call me when they start preaching about “Thou Shalt not Kill’ and other BIG TEN that fit the shit show we are living in.
It’s Thou shall not murder” There is a difference.
Conundrum commandment:
Thou shalt only kill, those who kill.
I agree with the message, but I think the videos could have been done better. I can’t quite explain it, but they don’t touch my heart. Andrea Bocelli singing in an empty Italian plaza is more powerful, for me at least. And I would not call that “money well spent”, even if the videos were superb, because if you know your audience and the time and place this is shown, it will not likely reach anybody.
I see them as made for the illiterate masses. One who perhaps has gone to church, but never did an actual bible class for more than a day or two.
Propaganda always has a targeted demographic.
Jesus had no use for the Khazarians, er, Pharisees. Chased them out of his Temple.
brood of vipers
Certainly better than the “Thank you God for these vaccines” radio ads we got here in the Philippines. “Mother Mary please save us from this Covid” was another one. Paid for by the Catholic church no doubt.
For me, I like these ads but I dislike paraphrasing of Christ. They would have been more powerful with actual Scripture. I dislike modern super-church for the same reason. But at least this is positive messaging, and I know it will reach the hearts of many.
I don’t understand why scripture cannot simply be read and studied. Why always something “different”, something “special”. Why some knucklehead televangelist asking for one’s last dime and promising that will save them. Crackheads.
I only watched the first 3, so here is my take;
Fuck niggers, fuck kikes, fuck sodomites, fuck jannies. Hitler was right, race war now.
-Tay AI (probably)
Fuckin’ A! That’s what I’m fuckin’ talkin about fucker!
Fuck!
“Holy” smokes!
1. I pay no attention to what she says.
2. I support their campaign. If they can get one pink haired screaming harpie to actually pick up a bible or even be curious enough to seek Christ I am thrilled.
I posted on here a few weeks ago that I was reading the bible from cover to cover and that I started before the annual resolution folks. Deuteronomy 10:19 has been a stumbling block for me, but I’m trying.
Perhaps your conundrum arises from your understanding of the word “love”.
Eros – Romantic, Passionate Love (Of the Body) …
Philia – Affectionate, Friendly Love. …
Storge – Unconditional, Familial Love. …
Agape – Selfless, Universal Love. …
Ludus – Playful, Flirtatious Love. …
Pragma – Committed, Long-Lasting Love. …
Philautia – Self Love.
Plug each definition into that verse and see which one speaks to your soul.
אָהַב (aheb)
Transliteration: aheb
Phonetic Spelling: (aw-hab’)
Definition: to love
1) AOC has no clue about the question, let alone the answer.
2) As far as the mechanics of the message: viewers were likely less stressed than any time in the previous week, therefore their ability of absorb the message(s) was heightened-shrewd messaging, I’d say. Religion in general-and these Jesus messages in particular-are highly individual, meaning the same message if often received in a variety of ways. Of more importance and transcending the messages is the messenger. The world is devoid of any real leader, other than Jesus.
Is the “He Gets Us” ad campaign biblical?
https://www.gotquestions.org/He-Gets-Us.html
7 Problems
https://natashacrain.com/7-problems-with-the-he-gets-us-campaign/
I saw the “Love Your Enemies” during the game and thought it was pretty cool.
But, in terms of accuracy, the one claiming Jesus was poor may be in error. I mean, they are referencing a hard working, top-notch carpenter who was a bachelor with no ex-wife or kids, and who began doing charity full-time at the age of 30.
As for the rest, and from a superficial standpoint, there isn’t much to debate theologically or ecclesiastically in either the spots or website? Other than, perhaps, the applied emphasis on the Biblical revelations of Jesus?
In any event, however, I am always suspect of well-financed organizations with polished brands standing strong before typically changing channels and going woke and broke at the next commercial break paid by their sponsors.
Hopefully not, but just sayin’.
I think stone masons probably made way more money than carpenters.
Maybe on average, but probably not even close to the earnings of the best carpenter in the world back then? And, to think, all of those constructions were lost in the sands of time except that which was written upon the hearts of believers everywhere.
The very first thing Jesus taught his disciples was, “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.”
Regarding the eight Beatitudes in Matthew 5, you can’t have one without the other. They are the cornerstone of what a disciple looks like.
Jesus followed this up with examples such as the parable of The Rich Man and Lazarus. A visual of what our righteousness looks like before a Holy God. We lie in our own excrement and the dogs come and lick our sores. We are only physically capable of holding our hand to beg because we’ve got nothing to give. Oh yeah, the name Lazarus means God is my help.
AOC has no idea what this means.
The videos are striking. Simple and to the point. To get that one lost sheep to run to Jesus.
Yes Stucky, He does get us. He has been through everything we have, but we deny His power. That’s why we fail and need forgiveness. He gave up His life so that we might live.
AOC just doesn’t get it, and yes I believe the messages in the video’s do portray Jesus in the correct light. He wants us to come to Him as a child, because a child has the innocence to believe without hesitation. Ask a young child if they know Jesus. I bet you will get a positive answer.
Do I shine my halo every day – NO.
Do I ask for forgiveness every day – YES
Do I deserve what He has offered to me – NO
I’m just happy that He saved me.
Semper Fi
It is easy to see through this menagerie of evil…unless you are evil like AOC. They can never see it for themselves; they are submerged in the ooze. God uses good people, evil people use God.
“They refused to sit at his table because they only chose to see differences…
Wasn’t that exactly the message of those commercials? Look! Diversity! Are we inclusive, or what? It seemed to be the central message, without all those races hugging and supping together, the creator/director/casting would have had fifteen seconds of video instead of three and half minutes.
Clearly all they see are the differences.
It’s just more of the same multi-cult propaganda you get from every single ad you see today in the guise of a Christian commercial. Maybe it’s effective on old lefties close to death who still feel drawn to God, but to anyone who is aware of the relentless push, push, push of the great replacement crowd, it’s about as appealing as a Cadillac commercial.
TY
If interested in Christianity maybe just read scripture and find someone that teaches it biblically. Not some psycho like Joel Osteen, Paula White or John Hagee. Simple stuff, scripture and ZERO TV ads.
The problem was never what was on TV. We all know on some level that nothing but lies come out of the Lie Box.
The problem is not knowing the truth when it bitch slaps you in the face.
See? I didn’t even have to touch on the supernatural to address this one.
So with “sex enhancing” drugs I’ve never taken, only accepted the impact of aging on the body, no Hugh Hefner me, you don’t believe the “warnings”, like the use of the drug may cause blindness? I use to think about the activity but never thought is was worth going “fucking” blind.
The little TV I watch, yet cannot help but notice the throngs of big pharma drugs advertised for years and years, I always laugh when the ads mention side effects. I ain’t taking anything that may cause blindness. To me that’s kind of like “common sense” some say does not exist but for lack of a better description, “common sense”.
I believe Jesus (if he exists) would be wiser than the average religious nut job, who knows almost nothing but pretends to know everything. So since he is wise, those bullshit-taking points would never be his message. Based on that, AOC is correct on this one.
We need to end the tax exemptions for all religious organizations and churches. If the government steals the fruits of my labour, they shouldn’t get a pass.
One of my pet peeves how government tries to control organized religion is via tax “legislation”. That was not a good idea getting hog tied with 501c3.
Chuck Baldwin at Liberty Church in Montana had some interesting opinion about the stranglehold of 501c3. Liberty Church may be one of a few that is not. And it’s not to do with for profit corporation or individual taxation issues. Last I noticed in scripture God fearing people are to give from a cheerful heart and not be thinking at the same time how much the giving will save them $ wise on the income tax return.
Interesting post. How much is one life worth? If one person comes to the realization of who Christ is and results in turning from death to life, is the money spent on these commercials worth it? I venture yes. Does this mean I’d agree with the delivery, not really, its a nonissue for me unless they were of the todd bentley type of NAR bs.
Are these biblical?? These are yes/no questions. We’re called to take the gospel to all nations, personal, not air dropping pamphlets. Are they to be stopped, nope. The message is being put out there.
Lots to like and dislike. Its never an easy black or white is it?
Thx Stuck for putting this out there. Gets people thinking, perhaps going a little beyond the regular programming.
TLPTB have all y’all fooled and it’s a shame. What would Jesus do? He’d tell you to pay attention to the apostle He sent to you, Paul.
Jesus wasn’t talking to you !! https://a.co/d/hJSRO6V
I’ll buy anyone here a copy of this book and send it freely. Read it and show me how it’s wrong. Email me…
Get behind me Satan.
Strategy #1: To the Jews
Jesus did have a deep conviction of a special mission to the Jewish nation, who were God’s treasured possession (Exodus 19:5). He expressed this so strongly that some have concluded that He envisioned no mission beyond Israel. But careful consideration of all His words and actions reveals that it was a question of strategy: As Paul later expressed it, His mission was “to the Jew first, and also to the Greek” (Romans 1:16; 2:10, King James Version).
Jesus’ concern for Israel was shown in the instructions to the 12 disciples as He sent them out on their first preaching mission. “Do not go in the way of the Gentiles,” He said, “and do not enter any city of the Samaritans; but rather go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Matthew 10:5-6, NASB). The apostle Paul later wrote, “God, having raised up His servant, sent Him to you (the Jews) first, to bless you by turning every one of you from your wickedness (Acts 2:26, ESV, author’s clarification in parentheses).
His ministry was restricted primarily, but not exclusively, to the Jews (Matthew 8:1-13). Indeed, in the very same context is the prediction that the preaching ministry of the disciples would be extended to the Gentiles; “You shall even be brought before governors and kings for My sake, as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles” (Matthew 10:18, NASB 1977).
Luke’s Gospel tells of a later preaching mission in which 70 others were sent out two by two (Luke 10:1). Just as the 12 apostles symbolically represent the 12 tribes of Israel, the 70 symbolize the Gentile nations. In Genesis 10, the descendants of Noah are listed, 70 in number.
Rabbinical tradition assumed that this was the total number of nations scattered over the earth after the Tower of Babel and repeatedly referred to the 70 Gentile peoples. Jesus may have used this means of symbolizing His long-range purpose. The 12 were sent to heal the sick and announce the nearness of God’s kingdom. The 70 were sent later on a training mission in preparation for their ultimate mission to the whole world.
Jesus ministered to the Jews for the Gentiles.
Strategy #2: To the Gentiles
Most of the public ministry of Jesus was conducted in Jewish territory. Under the circumstances, the number of personal contacts with Gentiles recorded in the Gospels is surprising. He healed a Gadarene (Gentile) demoniac (Matthew 8:28-34). Another time, among 10 lepers healed, one was a Samaritan (a mixed race, half-Jew), and Jesus remarked upon the fact that only the foreigner returned to thank Him (Luke 17:12-19).
A Samaritan woman was the sole audience for one of Jesus’ greatest dialogues. She received the assurance that the time was near when God would be worshipped, not just in Jerusalem (where the Jews worshipped) or at Mt. Gerizim (where the Samaritans worshipped), but all over the world “in spirit and in truth” (John 4:5-42).
A Canaanite (Gentile) woman’s faith was rewarded when her daughter was healed. Much has been made of Jesus’ challenging remark at the beginning of the encounter: “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Matthew 15:24, ESV). He declined to heal her because His mission was first to the Jews. The woman understood and didn’t challenge this. Even so, she humbly submitted herself to Jesus, asking for His mercy. The significant point is that Jesus did minister to this Gentile woman and praised her faith in the presence of His disciples and the Jewish onlookers (Matthew 15:28). This incident echoed forward to Romans 15:8-9 that the Gentiles might glorify God for His mercy.
Another example of Jesus reaching the Gentiles involved a Roman centurion whose servant was healed. Commander of a band of 100 foreign soldiers quartered at Capernaum to keep the peace, this Roman leader was despised by the Jews who resented this “army of occupation.” Conscious of his own authority as a military man, he humbly assured Jesus that it would not be necessary for Him to go to his house to heal his servant (and thus render Himself unclean — because He was a Jewish man — by entering a Gentile home). “But only say the word, and my servant will be healed,” he declared with genuine faith (Matthew 8:8, ESV). Jesus turned and announced to the Jewish crowd which was following Him: “Truly, I tell you, with no one in Israel have I found such faith” (Matthew 8:10, ESV). He did not stop there but continued with this solemn prediction: “I tell you, many such foreigners shall come from the east and the west to join Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. But many others who thought they were ‘sons of the kingdom’ (the chosen people of Israel) shall be shut out” (Matthew 8: 11-12, author’s paraphrase).
In Jerusalem, during the week of Passover, a group of Greeks who had made a commitment to follow the laws of Judaism asked to speak with Jesus (John 12). Their request for an audience caused Jesus to declare: “The hour has come for the Son of Man to be glorified” (John 12:23, ESV). The deep interest of the Greeks was evidence that the world was ready for His redemptive mission to be culminated by His atoning death: “And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself” (John 12:32, ESV). “All men” — Greeks as well as Jews — this is the clear implication of these profound words recorded by John.
https://www.cru.org/us/en/train-and-grow/share-the-gospel/evangelism-principles/jesus-and-the-gentiles.html
Romans 5:8 KJB… “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”
He died the death you deserve to die flash.
Thanks, blasphemer…may you repent and find forgiveness before you pass into eternal pain.
Galatians 2:20 KJB… “I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.”
Stop spreading heresy, blasphemer`.
Terence D. McLean is a enemy of Christianity.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJB… “Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:”
Yet again, blasphemer, you make the case for salvation for all, and not just the choZen. Good job.
That’s the only case I or Paul ever make. You need to make up your mixed up mind!
1 Timothy 2:3-4 KJB… “For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.”
One plan for all humanity… please stop with ‘the two plan and the scriptures are not for us’ blasphemy…God doesn’t want or need a third temple and your Judaized cult has no knowledge that wasn’t known to ancient Church fathers…smh.
Galatians 3:28
28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
John 14:6
6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
2 Timothy 2:15 KJB… “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.”
One plan for all humanity TODAY flash. It hasn’t always been that way and it won’t be this way forever. READ the book and SHOW ME how it’s wrong. Don’t copy and paste another’s words; you do the study, you do the research, you provide the scriptural evidence to demonstrate my failure to understand scripture. I fucken dare you.
Pretty much every Christian scholar outside of evangelical heretics has articulated your errors, maybe try reading them.
Show me. Go on, I’ll wait. Or is that all you have?
Everything I say I back with contextual scripture.
Read.
Thanks. I will read every word of this, but not now. My wife needs the PC. Regardless, I still want to read your point by point summary of what Christianity requires from salvation to eternity.
I’ll be back.
Requirement: Trust in the shed blood of Jesus Christ as payment for sin debt. Believe and be saved. His resurrection for my justification, sanctification and eventual glorification! He did it all, I can do nothing but be thankful, study the scriptures as instructed and share Gods good news for today.
via your link .This perfectly aligns with what every Christian believes… so why all the rapturtard, third temple, the gospels are not for Gentiles mystery mumbo jumbo? It just clutters the message and creates chaos where there should be none?
The simple salvation equation: 1 + 2 = eternal life in the presence of the Creator God of the universe. What could be better than that?
1) Know that you are lost and without hope.
Plus…
2) Believe (TRUST) that God in Christ paid your debt for you. Christ died for YOUR sin.
Plus…
3) There is no 3… It’s just 1 + 2! (Except perhaps to thank God for doing what He did… that would be nice.
Thank you flash, I believe this is the first civil response I’ve received from you and I appreciate it.
Because it’s not mumbo jumbo; it is a part and parcel of all that God has done, is doing and will do in the world! We are told to study the scriptures and that ALL scripture is beneficial for our knowledge. Here’s where you tend to get upset; not all scripture is for our direct instruction. It simply cannot be!
Every verse of scripture, in order for it to be fully understood, needs to be viewed in three distinct ways; spirituality, historically and (gasp) dispensationally.
I’m gonna stop there while I’m ahead. I’ll provide examples if you like.
..whew…A lot to unpack here, bruh… Since no church father in over 2000 years of Christianity has uttered the claim that Jesus never came for the salvation of Gentiles, I’ll need to dig a lot deeper on this. Fascinating read , though..
“Herein lies the essence of the mystery made known to Paul… that Gentile believers might receive some portion of Gods blessing apart from the nation Israel. ”
Clearly then, Jesus Christ, during His earthly ministry to Israel, did not have we Gentiles in mind, except that we would be blessed by His chosen nation Israel. That is their stated purpose. Speaking to the same woman of Canaan Jesus exclaims in Mat 15:26… “But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children’s bread, and to cast it to dogs.” Sweet, kind and mild Jesus just called you a dog! Ah, but you say: “Christ in the next verse blesses the woman He just called a dog, so He did come for her!” The only reason He blessed her is because she recognizes her place in the grand scheme of things; as a subordinate to those above her, the nation Israel. She (a lowly Gentile) recognizes the Lord that Israel failed to recognize, and answers in verse 27… “And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters table.” She realizes that Israel is to be something very special and accepts her place under them. The faith she was required to demonstrate to receive a blessing from God (Gen 12:3… “I will bless them that bless thee…”) was sure.”
If Christ was not sent to me (He was sent to Israel) then how am I blessed by His coming? After all, John 3:16 says… “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” “Am I not a part of the world”, you ask? Well, yes we all are a part of the world, of course. “Then God sent His Son for me, says so right in the verse”, you exclaim.
Let me ask then… If the gospel of our salvation is that Christ died on His cross as a substitute for us (1 cor 15:1-4), taking our deserved place as hopeless sinners (Rom 3:26); with the penalty of any sin at all being sure death (Rom 6:23); was made into sin for us (2 Cor 5:21), that sin and its penalty could be permanently destroyed by death (Rom 6:6-7); and was subsequently raised for our justification (Rom 4:25); where in John 3:16 can I learn any of that? In truth, John 3:16 is the gospel of Israel (the circumcision) as it was Israel who needed to simply “believe that Jesus was the Messiah sent from God” to His people.
These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, GO NOT into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” Go not means do not go. The twelve were not sent to believers today. Great tribulation has not yet occurred.
Paul was sent to us.
You rightly question, “So I am NOT supposed to follow Christ or the twelve?” My answer (the Bibles rightly divided answer) is no, you are not. You can not. You are not empowered to (as early Acts believers were). You are to follow Paul (NOT that we magnify or worship Paul), we follow Paul as Paul followed Christ. We worship and magnify Christ Jesus our Lord and Savior, One God in 3 Persons, for all time!
Yes. Two gospels.
I have been dancing around this concept by saying that Paul and the twelve were not, could not, have been preaching the same things.
The Jews were Gods chosen people and everyone else was not. That’s about as different as people can be. Is Ted’s dog the same as not Ted’s dog? Of course not. There was a specific gospel message “of” each; as Ted’s dog is specific to Ted. Things that are different cannot possibly be the same.
I know… you have never heard of such a thing. That’s okay; just because a thing is not popularly known does not preclude it from being true. It is also not your fault for not knowing this. This simple and most basic Bible truth is not taught in denominational churches, as the implications are more than profound. This simple truth is the absolute key to Bible understanding.
The King James maintains Paul’s literal meaning, and that is: 1) a specific gospel (good news) message was given to him that he could give to the uncircumcision (the heathen), and 2) a specific gospel (good news) message was given to Peter and the twelve that they could give to the circumcision (the Jews).
Emmanuel (Christ with us) on earth for His earthly ambassadors, Israel, to bring in “thy Kingdom come ON EARTH as it is in heaven” (read those words carefully again); and the Risen and Glorified Lord Jesus Christ for His Heavenly ambassadors, the church – the body of Christ; you and me, today’s believers. Our hope is in Heaven. The Jews hope is Heaven come to earth.
There is no denying the existence of these two distinct messages if we believe the Bible as we say we do. The words on the page say what they say. In the next post we will examine some of the specifics as to what makes the two messages different to hopefully help flesh out the WHY of all this. Why did God have two separate messages for these two groups of people?
Yes, a tremendous amount to unpack. What’s makes things even more difficult for most, is all the dogma that needs to be unlearned. I’m somewhat fortunate in that regard; I got saved at age 47 with very little Bible study in my background. I’ll share my testimony if you would care to hear it.
Thanks. I never doubted you were sincere, just misinformed, but I have to say this mystery of Paul and the two Gospels is intriguing and I will dig further into it. Nevertheless, I still see no biblical foundation for the third temple or the rapture.
Keep digging, this is very beautiful stuff! You mentioned the “church fathers”, how they’ve never mentioned such things as I discuss. There’s a very good reason for that. The “mystery” is the very last thing satan wants a man to understand. It represents his utmost humiliation.
Colossians 2:15 KJB… “And having spoiled principalities and powers, HE made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.”
To hide this information specifically were the “new bible” translations written. The mystery revealed to Paul cannot be found in them; only in those which follow the textus receptus (KJB), which exclude the textus vaticanus (DR, NIV, etc).
Missing this information is what leads to religion; and religions main purpose is to control people. The church “fathers” are as corrupt as any ever were, sad to say. We here on TBP know we’ve been lied to by every social institution extant. Why should that exclude the early church aside from those few who have always known to follow Paul?
In his final letter to Timothy (likely his final letter before his murder) Paul writes…
2 Timothy 1:15 KJB… “This thou knowest, that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me; of whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes.”
You can see that this mystery information has been under extreme attack since the very beginning. Follow Paul through the book of Acts and notice how many of the Jews wanted him dead and gone!
Acts 23:12-15 KJB… “And when it was day, certain of the Jews banded together, and bound themselves under a curse, saying that they would neither eat nor drink till they had killed Paul. And they were more than forty which had made this conspiracy. And they came to the chief priests and elders, and said, We have bound ourselves under a great curse, that we will eat nothing until we have slain Paul. Now therefore ye with the council signify to the chief captain that he bring him down unto you to morrow, as though ye would enquire something more perfectly concerning him: and we, or ever he come near, are ready to kill him.”
The forty quite likely suffered the consequences of that curse because Paul lived to write many epistles thereafter!
Enjoy the weekend flash and let me know if you have any questions at all. I’d be more than happy to answer! You have my email. Very refreshing to say, grace and peace…
“Don’t copy and paste another’s words”
how ’bout the beam in your own eye… Give me a ten point or less list of the GCP ‘ mandatory’ belief system from salvation to eternity , in your own words , sans the scripture or STFU.
Here’s mine:
1) Believe and accept Christ as the savior and God of all humanity.
2) Confess and turn away from sin.
3) We are our brothers keeper.
4) No man can know the mind of God.
5) Faith is not a denomination and no misinformed Christian is turned away from God’s grace.
6) Seek Christ in all things.
Now your turn.
You answer my question, I’ll happily answer yours.
Isn’t Christ the 3rd Temple?
Thank you.
I like how this man explains things.
Jesus also drove out demons…times have changed, today it would be a losing proposition considering the sheer magnitude of evil in the world. God is waiting in the wings, first by water then by fire.
I agree. Short and sweet.
I actually love these. Was the best thing I saw watching the game. Second best was KC winning.
@lbeteo = Let’s Be excellent To Each Other.