How Picking Up A Shovel Might Solve The Masculinity Crisis

Via ZeroHedge

The crisis of masculinity in the movie “Fight Club.”

Fight Club follows the boring life of the narrator (Edward Norton). He is a middle-class, white-collar worker who feels emasculated and unfulfilled in his everyday existence.

Through the narrator’s encounters with Tyler Durden (Brad Pitt), a charismatic and enigmatic soap salesman, he is introduced to a world of underground fight clubs where men gather to release their primal urges and reconnect with their sense of masculinity.

This leaves us with today: Masculinity is in crisis across the Western world as ‘wokeism’ spreads like a virus.

Research and critical studies have shown that global sperm counts are declining worldwide—at an accelerating rate. There’s a war on masculinity by Western governments and megacorporations; and there are even early school education programs transforming a generation of men into ‘beta males’ while some young adults become confused about their gender.

It might make sense why there’s a concerted effort to change men into beta status, generally because they play by the rules of society. They don’t question and stay compliant with the government — just as the narrator of Fight Club did when working in his boring cubicle.

Only through fight club, or rather exercise, was the narrator able to regain the alpha male status.

Not everyone needs to join a boxing club or find some underground fight club, as new research shows simple blue-collar work has benefits and boosts masculinity.

“Occupational factors, such as physical demands and work schedules, were associated with higher sperm concentrations and serum testosterone among men in the EARTH study.

“We already know that exercise is associated with multiple health benefits in humans, including those observed on reproductive health, but few studies have looked at how occupational factors can contribute to these benefits.

“What these new findings suggest is that physical activity during work may also be associated with significant improvement in men’s reproductive potential.

“What these new findings suggest is that physical activity during work may also be associated with significant improvement in men’s reproductive potential,” first study author Lidia Mínguez-Alarcón, a reproductive epidemiologist in Brigham’s Channing Division of Network Medicine and co-investigator of the EARTH study, stated in the press release

The study was a collaborative effort between scientists at the Harvard T. Chan School of Public Health and Mass General Brigham to evaluate the effects of the environment and lifestyle factors on masculinity/fertility.

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115 Comments
Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
February 25, 2023 7:00 am

Article was good until right after the hot dude with a shovel, when it was revealed who performed the study (researchers from Haavaahd and MGH). I bet they have never picked up a shovel themselves, so the article had an unexpected twist into comedy.

Chingway
Chingway
  Svarga Loka
February 25, 2023 4:00 pm

Ya got me at Harvard… Smh

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
February 25, 2023 7:21 am

The author doesn’t understand the psycho-sexual hierarchy at all.

Beta does not equate to a pansy or a schlub. Armies are made up of betas. The very best NCO’s are betas. Alphas aren’t just physically intimidating males, they are driven to accumulate followers in the same way female influencers are.

To be healthy and productive and to possess the drive that makes a male have real value in the world is internally driven, not socially rewarded. All those guys out there plowing snow in the middle of a storm, up on poles in ice storms restoring power, paving roads in the middle of a heat wave are follwing someone’s direction and orders, but are doing what they do because they have no fear of hard work or risk.

You want men to be masculine, not a specific ranking in the order.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  hardscrabble farmer
February 25, 2023 10:10 am

Uhhh….they are doing it for money.
I am 100% positive those masculine men would not work for free.
They might not be scared but they have bills to pay.
Where I live we have women plow drivers and electrical power line workers and things are fine.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Anonymous
February 26, 2023 10:00 am

Where I live we have women plow drivers and electrical power line workers and things are fine.

Somebody is watching too much TV.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  hardscrabble farmer
February 25, 2023 10:20 am

The beautiful part of strong Betas is that if you isolate them, you get another Alpha.

Paleocon
Paleocon
February 25, 2023 7:22 am

Splitting firewood is an ideal day for me.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Paleocon
February 25, 2023 10:59 am

I remember those days. Those were good days.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Paleocon
February 25, 2023 12:23 pm

Right on, Paleo. I split several cords each year. Using a hydraulic splitter.
Realize the enormous energy in a gallon of premium gasoline!

A cruel accountant
A cruel accountant
  Anonymous
February 25, 2023 12:55 pm

Anal mouse uses a hydraulic splitter. Fucking Beta.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  A cruel accountant
February 25, 2023 1:10 pm

You split a lot o’ logs at your desk, c.ertified p.rivate a.nonymous?

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  A cruel accountant
February 25, 2023 1:16 pm

It’s called working smarter, not harder. You heat with wood and you work full time and have a small farm, a hydraulic log splitter is a blessing. Maybe if your 25 or 30 you can axe split everything but at 57 you kinda need to keep from throwing your back out or pulling a muscle.
It still requires throwing heavy logs onto the splitter for hours at a time.

~L
~L
  Mary Christine
February 25, 2023 1:29 pm

~Mary, I have become a fan. Of similar age, and of similar physical limitations because of it, much like some twatter crowd members, I follow your cue, and tend to read what you have to say, and am rarely disappointed or find things to disagree with.

FWIW, I came out of a Lowes a week ago, and they had a hydraulic log splitter on wheels, with built in trailer hitch. 2 models, actually. But, sticker shock, at a grand for one of the 2.
Nice tool, but, unless you will get a lot of use out of it, or can use it to create a supplier business for cords of hardwood,
It’s just not in my wheelhouse at this stage of the game.
Notable idea, especially if NG stoves and supply lines get regulated out of existence, or cost beneficial trade off to those in need.

Where are you at, with your 2nd THJR schedule…upcoming, or already done, lady?

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  ~L
February 25, 2023 1:41 pm

Lady?? So are you the Anon below giving me shit?? Not many here use that word. I pay attention.

~L
~L
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 2:07 pm

Defensive confrontation tendencies.
Great. You pay attention. Good for you.
I was in an exchange with MC, and that word was used respectfully in the context where it was.
I signed off on that exchange, and on this one here.
Have you thought that maybe you’re barking up the wrong tree possibly?

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  ~L
February 25, 2023 2:18 pm

Here’s the thing, ~L, or is it Suds, or is just simply ~…or maybe today it was Anonymous…make up your damn mind.

I am an expert at analyzing writing styles. If most people here were to respond using only Anonymous as their handle going forward, then I could identify them pretty much solely on their writing style.

Do you see what this thread is about?? MASCULINITY. Get the hell off this thread if you don’t have the COURAGE to address me using your real handle so everyone here knows who’s getting an ass whipping.

And you say there’s something off about me??? I don’t hide when making my comments. I stand by everything I say and take the shit from all you who want to be assholes. Got it??

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 2:41 pm

….sniff….sniff……
(reaches for a tissue to wipe away tears)

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Anonymous
February 25, 2023 2:46 pm

God. I’m embarrassed FOR you. Disgraceful. Absolutely disgraceful.

~L
~L
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 6:22 pm

You have a couple things right here AA, but you also have way too many assumptions wrong.
There’s at least 5 or 6 Anonymous comments here that you presume are me, but not true.

1-The Anon that called you ‘little lady’ with the 1:13 time stamp was not me. Now, you can believe that or not, but I don’t lie.

2-On the Physiognomy Says post, the 3rd comment into it is by an Anon who takes a shot at Admin for linking Amazon on the blog site. When he called you specifically out on it, you replied by noting that sometimes our comments log as Anonymous when it might not have been intended. or words to that effect.

3-In support of that point in item 2, I submit it was me who commented further down this thread, at the 1:55 time stamp, where I called you Abs. I hit Post Comment before tagging it, and afterwards, just let the comment stand, without any need to claim credit for it. You recognized the intent of that one.

4-True, I took sides with Admin on that Amazon issue, since I have no experience running a blog, and felt he made a decision based on what he needs to do to keep the site funded, and he took issue with it, as I would have, if I’m in his shoes.

5-I never called for you to be banned. It’s not my place. I did comment that snark and undeserved shots have their own reward. Cause and effect. That comment applied there, but was also generally speaking of anyone who feels within their right to throw the first punch, & jab others when it’s uncalled for. I’ve been targeted before.
No sympathy expected. It’s part of the game.

6-You intervened in my comment and question to Mary, on the assumption that because I called her a lady, that I was the cowardly Anon who called you little lady on the comment in point 1.
You got that one wrong. Then it spiraled worse from there.

7-I tried to suggest the error, with the comment at 2:07 under my same tagline.

8-Further down, Anons are deemed cowardly, and you slander me on the assumption that your superior analysis of writing styles revealed the true identity of the comments that rip on you elsewhere in this thread.
The sniff…sniff rebuttal at 2:41? Wasn’t me. Might be someone with a similar writing style, but again, I won’t be shit upon and have my character, integrity, and masculinity defined by your misperceptions of who it really is that is taking jabs at you here.

9. You then turn it up several notches higher, again, all in error, with your slander of me in comments at 3:30, 3:35, 3:46, 3:39, 3:05.

Then at 3:09, again you stick your nose in with my exchange with Mary by advising her to stay away. Red Flag.
How about you mind your own business, while stewing in erroneous assumptions.

There’s an Anon here who is laughing his ass off at all the comments he / they have dropped on your head, and watched, amused as you try to butcher me for it.

Yet you expect an apology from me?
That’s not going to happen.
Your incorrect self righteous condemnation here has painted a bullseye on my back that’s undeserved.
That’s worse than petty female gossip, in that it spreads a cancer to any other idiot who might agree in support of you, even though you’re nowhere near the target on this one.

The way you worded your response to Admin on the Physiognomy Says post reveals a lot about your character.

PHYSIOGNOMY SAYS WHAT?

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  ~L
February 25, 2023 6:41 pm

~L,

*If* I am incorrect, then I apologize. On the surface, looks like you have a good defense here, but I’m running out and don’t have time to analyze it fully right now. Will look back at this later….

While I’m out, if Admin wants to prove me wrong, then I’m fully on board with that.

~L
~L
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 6:53 pm

Fair enough.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  ~L
February 25, 2023 9:19 pm

*****ATTENTION EVERYONE*****

I am going to eat crow here, so enjoy. It is rare, so rare that I forgot what it tastes like.

~L,

You have a decent defense and I am 95% sure you are innocent. I can only be 100% with Admin’s confirmation.

I apologize for going after you like that. *Sometimes* I can be too hard on people. It’s just my nature and something I should probably work on.

Your honor has been cleared. Thank you for typing out your response. I appreciate it and respect your effort.

Also, I did not say you wanted me banned. I meant that you didn’t want me there because of that thread.

Mary Christine – you have my blessing if you want an offline friendship with this person. (I know you don’t need it – that was mainly for him.)

Again, ~L, I apologize.

———————————————–

Just a general comment not directed at ~L.

I am done commenting on these type of threads because, while I have a lot to say on this topic, some “men” just can’t handle hearing it from a woman’s perspective. Plus, society is too far gone anyway. It’s not like I can bring back manly men singlehandedly. So, I am done trying.

Covid articles bore me to tears these days so won’t be commenting on those either.

Russia/Ukraine threads – pointless. No one knows the truth, and I mean NOBODY. So, there is no point wasting my time on those.

Physiognomy articles – I’m over it. I can only discuss & read about that subject to a point.

Let’s see, what else is there?? Religion?? Maybe. But highly triggering for most people.

Maybe I’ll find a good book club that won’t bore me to tears and stimulate my need to discuss. *Maybe*

~L
~L
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 9:44 pm

Accepted.
I’m going to suggest a book. Holy Moments, by Matthew Kelly. Short, quick read can be knocked out in under 2 hours.
This is by a guy who has been cut down himself by critics, but he takes the high road in suggesting that extending good will to others, as initiated creates what he calls holy moments.
I liken it to the way I interact with small kids out in public, and while at the PT job.
You catch the eyes of a toddler, from a distance, with a smile, a playful facial gesture, and see if they respond with a reaction.
Only works maybe 5 out of 10 attempts, but when it does, and they smile back, or look at you with a curiosity, it’s a God moment for me.
A small world connection of sorts.
Of course, too, putting the parent at ease so there’s no suspicion of bad intentions.
Anyone who mistreats a kid deserves the fires of hell with no end, in my opinion.
Anyway, get and read the book.
In a further testament to Kelly’s character, he gives you a website where the reader can obtain for free, 6 additional copies to give away.
Paying it forward.
Done. Mine arrived today. One already gone, and 3 others are slated for known associates.
The only thing I had to pay was about 7 bucks for postage to get those 6 shipped to me.
Some people know about this practice well.
Call it karma, sowing good seed, what goes around comes around, or when we give without expecting anything in return, we get a return, usually from a source different than who we benefitted.
I believe Our Source of all blesses us with intangible and tangible gifts, and he uses people as conduits; pathways of that kind of giving.
It’s from the heart, and when it’s done to unsuspecting strangers, it benefits US more than them. So, Receivers ought not to feel bad about accepting. Let the givers give. Be one.
Hold a door open for someone.
A compliment. A smile. A Lindt Lindor milk chocolate truffle, especially to someone who has served us in some capacity.
HSF knows about this and practices it in his own way, if I’m not mistaken, based on things I’ve read by him.
I know of quite a few others around here who do it as well.
It’s a good way to escape the gloom around us, and just shine a little light on somebody else for a brief moment in time.
But, like anything else, readers can take it or leave it, in principle. To each their own.
What works for one might be unimaginable for others.
Carry on.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  ~L
February 25, 2023 9:55 pm

So, what you’re saying is that I need religious help?? (just kidding, but kinda funny)

Thanks for the recommendation. I’ll check it out.

~L
~L
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 11:07 pm

Nah. Only cuz it’s the one most recently on my radar. But, that’s the danger w/ suggesting books with religious type content.
Nope. I won’t force mine on anyone, and only make suggestions when I think it’s a good one.

BabbleOn
BabbleOn
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 9:56 pm

Psychic Warfare – Tim Rifat
Society is wayyy tooo far gone. That said, at some point all you/we can do is laugh at The Men Who Wear Heels, or Stare At Goats. lol ♥
Keep watching the Sun Set on the West with us……We are all on the beach.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  BabbleOn
February 25, 2023 10:03 pm

Mrs. Babs – the only thing keeping me laughing these days is picturing you in your high heels. Thanks for humoring me…❤️❤️❤️.

BabbleOn
BabbleOn
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 10:10 pm

My pleasure. A little confidence goes a long way. Sometimes I even wear my peep-toe flats. But only when I’m using my new chainsaw, gotta stay colour matched lol

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  BabbleOn
February 25, 2023 10:16 pm

😂 Yikes. New images forming in my mind as we speak…

BabbleOn
BabbleOn
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 10:21 pm

😉 Btw the Tim Rifat book is a good look at where mind control was in the soviet 70s some neato insight.

BabbleOn
BabbleOn
  BabbleOn
February 25, 2023 10:23 pm

I grew up with Mrs. Doubtfire lol

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  BabbleOn
February 25, 2023 10:23 pm

Oh, sounds very interesting. I’m into that kind of stuff. I’ll look at it. You should see my reading stack. It’s taller than I am.

BabbleOn
BabbleOn
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 10:32 pm

I just got Yuvals newest book: Actually it is a comic book …
Sapiens A Graphic History Vol.2
The Pillars of Civilization.
His first Volume was kinda disappointing, I’m kinda looking forward to this new layout of world domination in a comic book….ok just flipping through a couple pages it is hilarious!!! This is gonna be fun read lol with Uncle Yuval

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  BabbleOn
February 25, 2023 10:40 pm

Um…a comic book?? Mkay….I…trust…your judgment, I guess. You say hilarious?? Maybe I’ll look into it…

BabbleOn
BabbleOn
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 10:49 pm

The first chapter is Uncle Yuvals Little Crop of Horrors .
It starts with the Devil singing and dancing…
“This Dreary Denisovan picking her figs,
For so many years,
It bored me to tears.”
OMG, it is so hilarious the Devil becomes a Goat then it is the wheat whispering to the farmer “Domesticate me….”
Ya it is great reading material on the beach for sure..

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  BabbleOn
February 25, 2023 10:59 pm

Well, you are clearly enjoying it. I’m sold. 🙂

Gotta go to bed now. Long day with family tomorrow.

Goodnight.

BabbleOn
BabbleOn
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 11:01 pm

Good night. Dream Stories.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Abigail Adams
February 26, 2023 3:50 pm

Don’t stop commenting , Abby. There’s not enough women here as it is. And you spice things up.
I’m glad you two got things cleared up.

Leah
Leah
  Abigail Adams
February 26, 2023 9:51 pm

Hey AA. Did Admin fill in the 5% of doubt? Don’t mind the dv if they come.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 3:30 pm

Several years ago there was someone here who was sure he could tell which anon was writing what. It ended up in a very long back and forth comment storm that took up, if I remember correctly like 500 comments and spilled over into other articles.
He was finally banned and unless Admin has allowed him to return under another name, he’s never been back.

Now I’m not saying that you would do something like that, it’s only to say that you can be easily mistaken knowing who is writing what under an anonymous handle.

Admin can always tell who is who.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Mary Christine
February 25, 2023 3:35 pm

MC…want me to tell you what happened exactly? ~L, ~, or Suds, whoever, used to like me. He got pissed at me when he perceived me as attacking Admin personally. He wanted me off the site.

So now, all that bullshit down below was just his cowardly revenge because I’m still here voicing my opinions.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 3:39 pm

L and Suds are two different people. I missed that shitstorm but it’s doesn’t sound like either one of them to me. But you would have to link that particular shitstorm and let me make my own decision about what happened.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Mary Christine
February 25, 2023 3:46 pm

MC…I respect you defending your friend, but I blew his cover. He’ll have to live with consequences until he apologizes to me. Otherwise, I’ll just ignore anything he has to say going forward. No biggie.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 4:01 pm

They or he or whatever can defend themselves. Ignoring annoying people is always wise.

~L
~L
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 7:05 pm

misdirected.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  ~L
February 25, 2023 3:24 pm

I understood that, but I didn’t have time to explain it to Abby. The whole anonymous thing is just annoying and confusing and I rarely respond to them. Pick out letters, numbers, anything, but pick something for gawds sake.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Mary Christine
February 25, 2023 3:30 pm

Using Anonymous to confront someone when you have already established a handle shows cowardice. He wasn’t being annoying (he was really), he wasn’t being lazy…he was being a coward. He knows it too.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 3:35 pm

Then ignore them. Or him or whatever it is.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Mary Christine
February 25, 2023 3:39 pm

Oh, now that I know who it was, believe me, I will.

He even said below he knows he will pay the price.

~L
~L
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 7:04 pm

wasn’t me.

~L
~L
  Mary Christine
February 25, 2023 7:29 pm

Understandable. You’re not the only one here that feels that way about Anonymous comments.

Have you ever seen examples of dopplegangs?
It has happened. And if the one who wants to sow misperceptions does that, and the targeted tagline doesn’t catch it, and rebut it, then more misdirected objection and offense is seen, and assigned blame in many minds on the wrong target.

The whole Anonymous thing sows confusion, but with the exception of people who have always used the same tagline, any new tagline we see could be an alter ego of a more well known name.

In one step further, some well known regular commenters have their picture, or use a picture icon associated with their known ID.

In the end, it’s Admin’s call on who to ban, who to allow, and ultimately, he can possibly out the Anons that are generally speaking harmless, but not in this instance here.
So, Yes. Best left to ignore them, agreed.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  ~L
February 25, 2023 1:44 pm

Done on Valentines Day. This one seemed to be easier to recover from and I transitioned to a cane much faster but still not in 3 days..lol! Your the man!

I have my 2 week follow up on Monday.

My husband got a used log splitter for a pretty good price about 6 years ago. I can’t imagine what they are new.

~L
~L
  Mary Christine
February 25, 2023 2:09 pm

MC, if you’re open to it, off site comms via email, as provided by Admin?

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  ~L
February 25, 2023 3:09 pm

Careful, MC. He has no idea who he is. Red flag.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 3:21 pm

He’s been around a long time, Abby. Longer than I have, at least commenting anyway.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Mary Christine
February 25, 2023 3:24 pm

Tenure means nothing to me. Character does.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  ~L
February 25, 2023 3:22 pm

Sure, I’m fine with that.

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  Mary Christine
February 25, 2023 2:00 pm

In my 20’s I used to cut and split, all by hand, about 50 cords a year. Some for self, some for sale. Loved that below zero for splitting. The wood just pops apart at about 10 below. Some of he rounds were 4 feet wide.

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 25, 2023 8:22 am

I’m hardly the most masculine specimen around, but I was the ONLY guy in my area who refused masking at the supermarket and took some heat (a dab of admiration) for it. That’s part of manhood, too, I suppose.

Let’s say that I identify as more manly than I really am. I’m not brave, really, just scared of not being able to look myself in the face in the bathroom mirror.

P.S.: Fuck ZH, those posers, and Fight Club. What a lotta Hollyweird homoerotic horseshit.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Anonymous
February 25, 2023 9:21 am

…just scared of not being able to look myself in the face in the bathroom mirror.

You said a mouthful.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Anonymous
February 25, 2023 10:21 am

Having courage does NOT mean you have no fear.

Bravery & courage are not the same. Having courage means you might still be scared, but you do it anyway because you know it’s the right thing to do.

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 1:12 pm

Beautifully said AA. Spirituality is what we do when no one is looking. Religion is what we do when others are looking.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 1:20 pm

Bravery and courage are synonyms.

B_MC
B_MC
February 25, 2023 9:38 am

there are even early school education programs transforming a generation of men into ‘beta males’ while some young adults become confused about their

“That’s our society.”

Bogart
Bogart
  B_MC
February 25, 2023 10:29 am

Betas attacking alphas means they want to be alphas too. To be “the man” you gotta beat “the man”.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 10:06 am

Masculinity:

Carving your own path, leading your family, protecting your loved ones no matter what, having non-negotiable convictions, believing in a higher power, always learning & reading, introspection, going against the grain, not accepting government assistance of any kind, willing to take risks, working hard – physically & mentally, taking care of your body, debating issues, respecting women, chivalry, know your role in society, know why you were created…

THAT’S how to be sexy as hell.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 10:26 am

Who TF has time for sex when we’re so busy doing all that shit?

I’m qualified. I’m just not interested in the position.

The compensation has always been inadequate. Its the only job I know of where the pay gets LOWER the longer you stay at it.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  The Central Scrutinizer
February 25, 2023 10:29 am

Who TF has time for sex when we’re so busy doing all that shit?”

😂 You MAKE time! Another part of masculinity – you get your priorities straight.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 11:01 am

As I said before…it just ain’t worth it. Cat’s outta the bag now. I can see the trap.

anon a moos
anon a moos
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 10:49 am

Had me pegged until the taking care of the body thing. Sowed to many wild oats, and paying for it now. But totally old school here. Principled to a fault doing whats right as opposed to whats expedient, regardless of cost.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  anon a moos
February 25, 2023 10:57 am

Bodies age. You do the best with what you got. What I meant had to do more with gluttony – no over indulgence – which is a sin anyway.

A cruel accountant
A cruel accountant
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 11:21 am

Interesting. A woman telling a man how to be a man.

Would you like me to tell you how to be a woman?

Go away Abby there are men talking here.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  A cruel accountant
February 25, 2023 11:26 am

Hmmm…I can see why you’re not getting any sex.

Interesting to see a bunch of men sitting around discussing how to be masculine – WHEN IT SHOULD BE INNATE!

Trust me – you need a woman’s help here.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 11:31 am

Why did God give women vaginas?
So men would talk to them.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Anonymous
February 25, 2023 11:41 am

The most erogenous zone is the mind. Don’t call yourself a man if you haven’t figured that out yet.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 12:03 pm

That would account for the prevalence of women’s rape fantasies and bad boys’ popularity.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 11:36 am

(Different Anon from the one directly above me @ 11:31 AM)

You’re both right, but ya hafta wonder why AA is always on about this . . . I mean, lady, the impression you give (and I love being wrong about some things) is that YOU’RE not quite as connected as you seem to want to be.

Any chance that you similarly need a man’s help? MGTOW’s mostly not a manifestation of modern soyness – it’s a workaround of women’s timeless nature, made impossible by feminism and modernity, generally.

To paraphrase Gordon Gekko, “It’s all about the kids, kid, and the rest is conversation.”

(I know I’m gonna pay for this . . . )

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
February 25, 2023 11:38 am

Is AA married to a man or a bunch of cats?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
February 25, 2023 11:41 am

That’s not me about the cats, AA, I’m True Detective guy.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Anonymous
February 25, 2023 11:48 am

Trust me – I have ZERO problems in the man department.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 11:55 am

Meaning you have one? Then what are you on about? This seems like a gal screaming for any male attention at all, no matter how vile or pathetic.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Anonymous
February 25, 2023 12:05 pm

I work with teenage boys and can very clearly see how you beta dads are destroying your offspring. So, yes, my input is spot-on.

Looks like you’re obsessed with me now, so who is really screaming for attention??

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 1:12 pm

Responding is not obsession, it’s respect. Tell me, if a man types in AA’s forest and there’s no one there to hear him, is he still wrong?

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 1:20 pm

AA. I am trusting your judgement 100% on this issue.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Anonymous
February 25, 2023 11:46 am

Connected to what??

I go on about this because I notice that society is full of a bunch of pansies and I hate it. I personally like men to be men and women to be women. So, I give my input. All you fags out there have practically put me on a mission to TEACH YOU HOW TO BE A MAN.

I mean, just look at all the fag Anons here who don’t even have the COURAGE to respond to me using their handle.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 11:52 am

You’re always moaning about this stuff, I mean, so it sounds like you aren’t with a guy, because we’re all such crap in your view – and you still haven’t answered the question. Are you or aren’t you in a good thing with a guy?

You sound like you aren’t, and are trying to create the “right” guy with your mouth. Is the irony lost on you (you seem sharp) that a real man (whatever you think that is) isn’t one who listens to some dame tell him how?

A real man is one who takes orders from himself, no? Not TV, not another guy, and certainly not from some woman? Some dummy with plastic testicles on his giganto-truck’s rear bumper is few degrees off the mark, it seems.

P.S.:
If you wanna stay angry, feel free. Each to her own. “All you fags out there?” You really must be repulsive if you think every guy’s a fag, ’cause you don’t have one (if you don’t). You really are being obtuse – which is actually quite a womanly trait.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Anonymous
February 25, 2023 11:59 am

Wrong. I love men. I’m just trying to help y’all out. Take it or leave it.

I don’t like giving out my personal info on an online forum full of strangers, but yes, I have a man in my life. So, I’m not available if this is your way of asking me out. I would never be attracted to an ANON anyway.

And, I’m not angry. It’s just your misunderstanding on how to handle a woman. Typical.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 12:12 pm

So your “man” is special and does not misunderstand women, which according to you , is typical.
I think your “man” is existential….and that’s okay, whatever works.
Have a nice day.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Anonymous
February 25, 2023 12:32 pm

Bowing out – good choice.

BabbleOn
BabbleOn
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 12:40 pm

I picked up my shovel and worked for an hour this morning! I lead by example. Most men run or hide from work cause that is what they learned from other beta males. Beta males are that way because they are afraid. They live their whole life afraid. I AM BABBLEON!

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  BabbleOn
February 25, 2023 12:43 pm

Very sexy, Babble, high-heels and all…❤️

BabbleOn
BabbleOn
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 12:54 pm

Damn Skippy! I prance around and get the job done!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 1:13 pm

I don’t need and didn’t ask for your help, little lady. Something seems really off about you.

A cruel accountant
A cruel accountant
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 1:23 pm

Abby

A man taking advice from a woman is like a fisherman taking advice from a fish.

Men if you want to get laid do what men get laid do. Never ask a woman.

She will just tell you “to be yourself and the right woman will come along”.

A cruel accountant
A cruel accountant
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 1:25 pm

Ok Abby I am game.

Tell us the top ten things a man should do to get a woman.

Walter
Walter
  Anonymous
February 25, 2023 1:33 pm

Men want children, women couldn’t care less in general. It is all about the kids. If we couldn’t breed until forty there’d be no breeding happening. Men learn too much over time. The joy of sex that might impregnate is orders of magnitude greater than sex otherwise. A woman can be really awful to be around if there’s the potential to breed, once the kids are made she ought to learn to be pleasant to be around as her fundamental job is completed.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Walter
February 25, 2023 2:14 pm

Men want children and women could care less??
You got that TOTALLY backwards.
Maybe you’re talking about blacks???

A cruel accountant
A cruel accountant
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 1:08 pm

Abby

Thanks for the offer, but I have more pussy than I can handle. I never had to work for it.

I just have this innate ability to attract women.

You say you never had trouble with men. I believe you because if any woman spreads her legs a dick is sure to fall into her it.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  A cruel accountant
February 25, 2023 11:33 am

@accountant.
Catholic priests giving marriage counseling.

A cruel accountant
A cruel accountant
  Anonymous
February 25, 2023 1:15 pm

Anal mouse.

Yes priests do but why any man would take advice from a homosexual is beyond me.

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 1:18 pm

You are knocking it out of the park today. I worked in the construction business for over 20 years, and the most aggressive people I have ever come across is woman. The liberal woketards are more aggressive than any man I have ever met.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Abigail Adams
February 25, 2023 1:55 pm

Abs, I would agree up to the 95% level of what you opine.
The 5% exception?
not accepting government assistance of any kind

Look. I get it, to a certain extent, and would agree, that if you can work, you should still work, so as to decline being on the government dole.
Far too many abuse that and are just lazy.

That said, I worked for 55+ years paying into the system, forfeiting SS and FICA skims from my gross pay all those years.
(Battle stations! A shit storm be a brewin’ on this issue)

As a semi-retired man in the 4th quarter of my game, constantly trying to swim upstream against the strong currents of inflation, brought on by a government intent on squeezing every last cent from the working stiffs,
I’m drawing SSA bennies now. And, I might add, still working part time, in the effort to keep my head above the swirling pool of dung we find ourselves wading through.
So, with all due respect of opposing opinions, not everyone is able to subsist on a large stash of finances accumulated, where refusing SSA payback is the mark that distinguishes a real man. **

I’ll go you one further. With the way government and other PTB have just corrupted the medical and sick care insurance fields, would you fault someone on a fixed income who took advantage of the government marketplace’s subsidies to offset monthly insurance premiums? Especially if not yet eligible for Medicare, which is mandated once we turn 65?
I’m on a Silver Plan, and without the subsidy, would be paying (or refusing to pay) close to $800/month. As a single person. That’s raping a generally healthy person, who only wants to not get hit with 100k in medical bills, if unfortunate enough to require a lengthy hospital stay due to accident, or life threatening disease.

** Regarding defining a REAL man. Like who?
Like Mozart? Like Ghandi? Rambo? Theodore Roosevelt? Who?
The point being, your qualities listed are an excellent set of guidelines and goals for (not necessarily just younger) men to aspire to.
There is really no one size fits all, side by side comparison that completely encapsulates what defines or declines one to be described as such.
As one small man on these pages recently stated, only real men cook with fire.
Such a small mind then should ditch his microwave, his toaster, his electric coffee pot, and any other number of modern conveniences with which to heat up liquids or solids for consumption.
Otherwise, ditch it all, and go live out in the wilderness, much like John the Baptist did, or others who want to live back in the 18th century in the wild, wild west.
But, too, those who have taken steps to get off grid as much as possible, with redundant systems that enhance most lives, they are to be admired as wise.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Anonymous
February 25, 2023 2:03 pm

Good points. No argument here. The government and our society is doing everything in their power to squash masculinity. It’s a battle. That’s why I’m so engaged in it.

I just listed the qualities I personally like to see. And, yes, circumstances differ with everyone. It’s just a guideline.

I read a lot of old literature and how things used to be. I yearn for that world again.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
February 25, 2023 2:19 pm

Edited version:
Don’t pay for insurance of any kind.
Be a real man and live in the woods.
Things get bad enough, eat a gun.

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 25, 2023 10:56 am

Fight Club was a very dark, violent, confusing Movie in MHO.
You will notice that Boomers are not confused about their sexuallity. It’s only the Tide Pod eating Generation Zeros and the lazy, worthless Millennials that don’t know what sex they are.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
February 25, 2023 11:18 am

There are definitely boomers confused about their sexuality and a quite a few of them are very famous.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
February 25, 2023 11:39 am

There was never an ideal time in all of human psycho-history. There’s no Earthly paradise. The assertion that there could be is the most successful sales rap ever.

ICE-9
ICE-9
February 25, 2023 12:52 pm

Fight Club was not only about an emasculated man rediscovering his masculinity through violence, it was also about using that rediscovered masculinity to harness violence to bring down the system that created the emasculated state of being.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  ICE-9
February 25, 2023 1:16 pm

It was about gay Palahniuk writing homo porn and changing nothing while making Hollyweird bank. And ZH are a bunch of pussies, too. They can’t even handle free speech, never mind freestyle fighting. Nearly everyone’s wearing a poker face.

ICE-9
ICE-9
  Anonymous
February 25, 2023 3:58 pm

I’m guessing you’ve never been in a fist fight. After a few you begin to realize that violence does solve things.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
February 25, 2023 10:25 pm

I wish more people knew the writer was a massive faggot.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
February 25, 2023 1:37 pm

This thread is funny. More please🤣

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mary Christine
February 25, 2023 2:47 pm

It’s Saturday.
Hopefully, the drinking will get started and it will get funnier.

World War Zero
World War Zero
  Mary Christine
February 25, 2023 6:20 pm

Heh heh. I think, I think I’ll just… stop before… I lose all perspective.

Deep Thoughts
Deep Thoughts
February 26, 2023 8:39 am

A parable. (Repairable?)
See if you can catch the parallels.
Christ spoke in parables, so His followers might more easily grasp a concept.

We can sometimes cause damage by taking a hammer and nails, go up to a white picket fence, and proceed to pound a few nails into it.
Later, when the damage is brought to attention, perhaps in making amends, the transgressor repents (rethinks), and then uses the claw side of the hammer to pry loose and remove the ugly nails, that many witnesses saw on the day they were hammered in and stained the integrity of the fence.
The removal is an act of apology, to try and make up for the transgressions.
But even by removing the nails, the piercing holes they created cannot be removed.
I. E., the damage has been done.

And rarely do the passersby who saw the nails ever walk past the fence again, to see the removal.

Similarly, a damaging headline on the front page of popular newspapers plants a negative seed that contains enormous growth potential.
But when the erroneous retraction is issued, it almost always lands on page 8, with a small paragraph admitting the error.
Coincidentally, the retraction, since buried after the fact, is rarely seen by many who read the headline front page proclamation earlier.

In another parallel, this blog’s posts typically have a short shelf life.
That is, with a few rare exceptions, not too many who were witness to carnage ever see the updated status, as other, new news takes priority over the old.

Been there, done that is usually the mindset of the readers who have moved on.

And so it goes.