When Empires Die

Guest Post by Jeff Thomas

Empires Die

Years ago, Doug Casey stated, “When empires die, they do so with surprising speed.”

At the time, that comment raised eyebrows, yet he was quite correct in his observation.

Ernest Hemingway made a similar comment when a character in his novel The Sun Also Rises was asked how he went bankrupt. The answer was, “Gradually, then suddenly.”

Again, this sounds cryptic, yet it’s accurate.

Any empire, at its peak, is all-powerful, but the fragility of an empire that’s in decline is hard to grasp, as the visuals tend not to reveal what’s soon to come.

Great countries are built upon traditional values – industriousness, self-reliance, honour, etc. But empires are distinctly different. Although it may seem to be a moot point, an empire is a great country whose traditional values have led it to become unusually prosperous. There are many countries, both large and small, that are “great” in their formative values, but only a few become empires.

Yes, the prosperity is brought about through traditional values, but a great country becomes an empire only when its prosperity is sufficient to allow it to branch out – to invade other lands – to plunder their assets and subjugate their peoples.

We tend to grasp, through hindsight, that this is what made the Roman Empire possible. And we accept that the Spanish Empire was created through its invasion of the Americas and the plundering of pre-Columbian gold.

And we understand that the tiny island of Britain achieved its empire by covering the world with colonies that it had taken by force.

In every case, the pattern was the same – expand, conquer, plunder, dominate.

As a British subject, my childhood understanding was that previous empires had come about through nefarious pursuits, but I was encouraged to believe that the British empire was somehow different – that my forefathers sailed the seven seas to liberate distant populations. That, of course, was nonsense.

The British empire is now long over, and the current empire is the United States. Around 1900, the then-great country of the US sought to achieve empire and, at that time, its president, Teddy Roosevelt, was insatiable in his desire to conquer foreign lands, both near (Nicaragua, Guatemala, El Salvador, Panama, Puerto Rico, Cuba) and far (Hawaii, Philippines, Japan).

The results of his efforts were mostly successful, and although the countries taken were not called colonies, they were certainly intended to be vassal states. And there can be no question the US government’s methods were no kinder than that of the Huns. Some locations, like Hawaii, went fairly peacefully, whilst others, like the Philippines, required brutal slaughter on a grand scale.

And such tactics change the nature of a “great” country. Yes, it does allow it to become even greater, in terms of domination, but it ceases to be great in terms of its values.

In most cases, this plants the seeds of empirical collapse. The empire, even as it’s growing, is rotting from within, with deteriorating principles and morality – the very traits that created it.

This, in turn, causes the empire to develop a habit of subjugation – even over its friends and allies abroad – those countries that got on board to take part in the prosperity. While, to some extent, these loyalties by other nations are genuine, they are treated as lesser nations, eventually causing resentment of the empire.

As such, in the latter days of the empire, ally nations become toadies. Their hatred for the empire is palpable, but they maintain their obeisance, grudgingly.

Empires are built upon monetary prosperity. We can understand that an empire, in its heyday, attracts all and sundry to its shores. It builds up the ability to dictate to others since the whole world hopes to gain favour. But, towards the end of the empirical period, it’s resented by all those who were once genuine allies.

In its latter days, an empire becomes hollowed out. It’s burdened with a costly and top-heavy government. The middle class is expected to provide largess to the masses through bread & circuses, providing fealty for the political class. Traditional values are largely gone, and “everyone seeks to live off everyone else.”

At this point, the empire is a mere superstructure – one that’s becoming increasingly unsound. Importantly, the prosperity that made empire possible is replaced by the illusion of prosperity – debt.

Concurrently, the political class becomes increasingly tyrannical in order to hold the collapsing edifice together. In the final stages, tyrannical efforts increase in both frequency and magnitude in order to maintain the subjugation of the masses for as long as possible.

It may be beneficial for the reader to read this last line again, as this development is the most recognizable symptom of the final stage prior to the collapse of empire.

This final period is not only difficult to cope with, it’s highly confusing for those living within a dying empire.

The edifice still stands. With each election, the electorate hopes that somehow, a champion will spring forth and “put everything back the way it was.”

But it’s important to note that, historically, this never occurs. Whilst the average citizen hopes in vain for his political leaders to “wake up” and stop all the nonsense, he fails to grasp that, to the political leader, the most important pursuit is power. He cares not a whit for the well-being of the populace.

The political class has no intention of relinquishing even a small amount of power for the good of the people he was elected to represent.

Historically, in every instance, every empire has collapsed from within. Once the apple is truly rotten, it cannot be un-rotted.

And so, if we’ve been observant in the recent years and decades, we’ll acknowledge that the present empire has already passed its sell-by date. Its political structure is wholly corrupted on both sides of the aisle; the economy is doomed due to unpayable debt; the population has become unproductive, and it’s now in the process of alienating its former friends through increasingly desperate measures.

And here, we return to our opening paragraphs.

In its final stage prior to collapse, the empire sells out its toadies and is therefore no longer of any benefit to them. Suddenly, the empire becomes a liability. And, at this point, those who have had to tolerate the indignity of being toadies look forward to a fall, even a partial one, by the empire.

At present, the US empire maintains an illusion of dominance, but it cannot withstand a test. A defeat in warfare, a collapse in finance, the loss of the petrodollar or the reserve currency, or any one of a host of triggers that are now looming would be sufficient to drop the US to one knee overnight. All that’s needed is for one of the triggers to be pulled.

It matters little what the event will be; it’s sufficient to understand that we are now drawing quite near and that the event is unavoidable. 

Historically, when an empire dies, all the notes suddenly come due. 

The political class of any empire arrogantly depends upon allies to do as they’re told, yet, when a decisive blow is dealt to the empire, those who had once been loyal allies are now as ready to abandon the empire as rats would abandon a sinking ship.

When this happens, the crutches that the empire has been counting on to hold it up pull away quickly. The collapse will have occurred “gradually, then suddenly.”

Once this is understood, the question for the reader becomes where he wishes to be when the edifice falls; whether he has prepared an alternative situation that will increase the likelihood that he will survive the debacle with his skin on.

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20 Comments
Iska Waran
Iska Waran
April 10, 2023 4:39 pm

The current sexual weirdness (trannyism, etc.) isn’t the first time that’s happened in history. Ancient Rome was beset by that crap, too.

Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
  Iska Waran
April 10, 2023 5:06 pm

As judge Robert Bork famously wrote that the U.S.A. was “Slouching toward Gommorah,” just don’t forget Sodom. That was a quarter century ago. Now it is a full-court press to corrupt everyone and everything with this shit; especially children. The fuckers ARE sick and criminal in their disgusting enterprise.

Sex perverts, freaks, victims, slaves and slavers have been here since the dawn of civilization only they didn’t have Globohomoshlomo to help them.

falconflight
falconflight
  Aunt Acid
April 10, 2023 5:51 pm

I need to buy that book. Just received our copy of “Rise of the Fourth Reich.” Authored by Steve Deace and Daniel Horowitz.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  falconflight
April 11, 2023 10:36 pm

gay

goat
goat
  Aunt Acid
April 10, 2023 7:06 pm

I’d contend they certainly did have help.

Ginger
Ginger
  Iska Waran
April 10, 2023 5:39 pm

BBC notes “Sticking one’s tongue out can be a form of greeting in Tibet.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dalai-lama-apologizes-after-kissing-boy-asking-suck-my-tongue

falconflight
falconflight
  Ginger
April 10, 2023 5:53 pm

Big broad smile…thx…I think.

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  Ginger
April 10, 2023 6:48 pm

🤣🤣🤣

goat
goat
  Iska Waran
April 10, 2023 7:04 pm

Lots of places. I wonder what the common denominator was / is? Germany, Egypt, Babylon, just the ones that come to mind.

falconflight
falconflight
April 10, 2023 5:48 pm

Yeah, but we can still buy cooler stuff here, and baseball…Isn’t that the foundation of muh freedum in AmeriKa?

k31
k31
April 10, 2023 7:39 pm

Empires are universally built on banditry, piracy, and rapine.

Karhu
Karhu
April 10, 2023 9:19 pm

We’re just having a moment. The decline and fall of the Roman Empire took centuries so unless the U.S. goes full Jonestown the eminent demise of the U.S. is hype (usually being pushed by someone with something to sell). Not that we aren’t going to be taken down a few pegs, deservedly. Besides……muh, American Exceptionalism.

World War Zero
World War Zero
  Karhu
April 10, 2023 10:31 pm

Where is this restorative victory you anticipate? I only see looting, lunacy, and lies.

Maybe, hopefully, a State or two will give the Byzantine model a try.

m
m
  Karhu
April 11, 2023 7:07 am

4 more years max

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 10, 2023 10:49 pm

Rr

ExPat Now
ExPat Now
April 10, 2023 10:50 pm

All you pensioners are screwed and it would be worth it for that alone.

falconflight
falconflight
  ExPat Now
April 10, 2023 11:21 pm

Aren’t you sweet.

Stucky
Stucky
April 11, 2023 8:06 am

Things were peachy keen on October 23, 1929.

Then came October 24, 1929 ………

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…. and in ONE HOUR!!

Stucky
Stucky
  Stucky
April 11, 2023 8:22 am

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clayusmcret
clayusmcret
April 11, 2023 12:43 pm

Several years ago I wrote the following observation. It was based on something Ken Hamblin had said back in the 90’s. I may have posted it here previously. If so, my apologies for reposting it. Although the info is a little dated, it remains a valid observation.

Ken Hamblin, a conservative black commentator said back in the mid 90’s that once a great nation/a world power, e.g. Greece, Rome, Great Britain, etc., reaches its pinnacle and starts down the other side it cannot rise up to its previous greatness again. It may or may not die, but it will never be that global power again. And, the ride down the backside has always occurred hellaciously faster than its rise to greatness. No country in recorded history has crested, dipped hard and crested again. China’s recent rise could almost argue against this, but when you consider that China has never been a great power outside the confines of its own borders, it doesn’t qualify. Ken’s closing question to the discussion was always “Has America reached its pinnacle of greatness and started down the backside?

Our question today, ~25 years after I first heard The Black Avenger broadcast his observation, is the same question he posed at the time. Has America crested? If so (using Ken’s time line), and especially with the intentional damage being caused by socialists of the previous administration who assumed the reins of power and never let go, our country will be gone (as we know it) in less than two (2) lifetimes.

Look at the diagram below which is based on Mr. Hamlin’s theory.

(If it doesn’t fall part in transmit) The left side is our nation’s life, its growth and its continued prosperity. It’s a struggle. It takes effort. It’s a long, slow uphill climb that officially started with the Declaration of Independence July 4, 1776. The flat top is our plateau, when we became complacent and came to believe we’ll last forever, as is, with no effort required. I used to say “..when we come…”, but I now firmly believe we are there now – if not already closer to the cliff.

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The right side, however, is how quickly, based on countless historical precedence’s in human evolution, a country simply falls apart. Note that the right side of the diagram is not gradual. In the normal cycle of a nation, it is the shortest span; lasting days, months or a very few number of years. For examples of what I’m talking about, look across the middle east and wonder if any of those recently ousted governments thought they’d be gone and replaced in a matter of months. Look at the other Great Super Power. I remember shredding an intelligence estimate of the USSR’s next five years, two years after it was written and published…. as totally irrelevant. The USSR was gone. Look in the news. Venezuela is there now. Is this what we accept for America?

I sent the following to some military retirees in 2015 and again in March of 2019. It remains germane to the conversation.

The following timeline may or may not be from Alexander Tyler, an 1887 Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, but regardless it’s still important to ponder. The parts in quotations are supposedly from him (though many argue it is not, but it’s still relevant). The portions in parenthesis are my own uneducated estimations; equating his general timeline to the U.S.’s calendar. We’ve been lucky to outlast the 200 year projection, but we’ve definitely followed the timeline nonetheless. At the time he supposedly said this, he was talking about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:

“A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship.”

“The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:” (moderate, fast, slow, fastest)

“From bondage to spiritual faith;” (1492 to pre-Revolutionary War period)

“From spiritual faith to great courage;” (immediately prior to the Revolutionary War)

“From courage to liberty;” (start-win-immediately post Revolutionary War)

“From liberty to abundance;” (1800’s through mid-20th Century)

“From abundance to complacency;” (later 20th Century, speeding back up)

“From complacency to apathy;” (1995-2008, note each phase becoming much shorter)

“From apathy to dependence;” (we were seriously transiting the latter part of this phase under obama, zooming toward completely handing our lives over to nanny-state dependence for the freebies government promises to give us, giving up freedoms for security and in the end, losing both. However, we fought back…for a short time. Can we slow this phase back down?! It’s doubtful.)

“From dependence back into bondage.” (too many are laying the foundation to move into this phase right now and if Hillary had been able to cement obama’s reign, we would have been firmly entrenched. How quickly we succumb into total bondage eventually depends on us….and you.)

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Imagine if Hillary had won in 2016. We’d be so far past what Biden is doing today our heads would still be spinning.