Wedding Parties, Homeless Vets Booted From NY Hotels To Make Room For Migrants

Via ZeroHedge

Two soon-to-be-wed couples and 20 homeless veterans are no longer welcome at New York hotels, as their planned or in-progress stays were cancelled so the properties could be used to house migrants instead — with a higher payoff for the hotel operators.

The New York Post reports that a Florida couple that’s originally from New York has had a wrench thrown in their June wedding plans. Deanna Mifsud and Gary Moretti’s wedding party had reserved 30 rooms at the Crossroads Hotel in Newburgh, about 20 minutes from the ceremony site. Friends and relatives coming from California, Florida, Arizona, Minnesota, Connecticut, New Jersey, Long Island and Westchester were all booked, with shuttle service arranged to ferry them safely from and back to the hotel.

The hotel has been in the news amid controversy over New York City’s scheme to store excess migrants in suburban Orange and Rockland Counties. The Florida couple called the hotel, and were told their reservations had been trashed. The hotel told them to contact Choice Management, which operates the hotel.

“We were on hold for 45-plus minutes and were ultimately told, ‘We can’t do anything for you, bye bye,’ and we were hung up on,” says Mifsud. Only one guest had been proactively notified of the cancellation.

“It’s complete chaos. We do not feel like they are housing the migrants out of the kindness of their heart. It’s just for the money,” adds Mifsud.

Gary Moretti and Deanna Mifsud are scrambling to put their wedding plans back together (Deanna Mifsud photo via New York Post)

 

That’s not a random accusation. Reports suggest that hotels involved in the migrant program are being paid rents that are a substantial premium to rates typically paid by citizens and others in the country legally.

That includes 20 homeless U.S. military veterans who were already in suburban New York City hotels but were given the boot to make room for migrants. The vets’ rooms were being covered by the Yerik Israel Toney Foundation, which was founded by a disabled military vet. Fifteen of them were staying at the same hotel as the victimized Florida engaged couple.

The foundation had negotiated an $88 nightly rate to house the veterans, but some reports indicate New York City is paying upwards of $190 a night to house migrants. “That’s so unfair, because at the end of the day, we are a small nonprofit,” the foundation’s Sharon Toney-Finch told the Post.

A similar wedding nightmare struck a couple from Queens, but with even less notice. They’d reserved 37 rooms at the Crossroads Hotel for a May wedding, only to have them taken away and redistributed to the migrants. “What we feel right now is…we feel very cast aside,” groom Sean Plunkett told CBS News.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
May 14, 2023 12:13 pm

Sweet, the pot is simmering wonderfully. I can’t wait to see it boil over up there eventually.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
May 14, 2023 1:14 pm

In a few weeks , you’ll se this.

#### Breaking : Newburgh , NY health officials are baffled at the sudden rise in rare diseases suddenly appearing in the area.

well_Inever
well_Inever
  Anonymous
May 14, 2023 2:28 pm

That’s minor. Wait until there are breakouts of hepatitis, HIV, lung diseases, TB, etc.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  well_Inever
May 14, 2023 2:35 pm

And kidtouching, rape, murder, sex trafficking:
https://www.illegalaliencrimereport.com/

Anonymous
Anonymous
  well_Inever
May 14, 2023 2:49 pm

LOCKDOWNS can fix it ….. in 3 …. 2 ….. 1…

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  well_Inever
May 14, 2023 3:37 pm

Antibiotic resistant TB.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  well_Inever
May 14, 2023 4:14 pm

Yes, TB. Something you don’t get to deny consent to.

well_Inever
well_Inever
  well_Inever
May 14, 2023 4:28 pm

Just listen to the first minute or so.

Tex
Tex
  well_Inever
May 14, 2023 11:44 pm

About 16 min…
Greg Abbott is part of the World Economic Forum

Thanks, “Texans”.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Anonymous
May 14, 2023 4:26 pm
Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Anonymous
May 14, 2023 4:27 pm
Iggy
Iggy
May 14, 2023 12:28 pm

One of these vets needs to do some target shooting.

Steve Z.
Steve Z.
May 14, 2023 12:41 pm

They are getting paid more but the migrants will turn the hotel into a shit house within 1 week.
Bet on it.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Steve Z.
May 14, 2023 12:55 pm

The hotel owners don’t yet realize that this is the beginning of the confiscation of their property and the elimination of their own livelihoods.
More will come. They will never leave. The hotels will not be permitted to throw the invaders out. They will also be unable to sell because, as you rightly point out, the hotel will be trashed in short order.
But they will keep doing it because they’re simultaneously good little liberal commies AND the greediest and most short sighted of ‘capitalists’. (Make sense of it if you can, but don’t stare into the abyss too long)

ze bugs
ze bugs
  Steve Z.
May 15, 2023 12:58 am

The hotels in NYC have been turned into crime ridden flop houses. Drugs, sex and filth everywhere and the migrants are very entitled refusing to eat the food provided to them. A Mexican immigrant who was working there said the migrants were trash. I can’t imagine anyone wanting to stay in that hotel after this. Would you want to sleep on the mattress these people slept on? disgusting.

ICE-9
ICE-9
May 14, 2023 12:47 pm

Never forget it was the “conservative” Ronald Reagan that opened the floodgates on November 6, 1986 when he signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act. Actor, union leader, and astrology adherent playing the biggest role of his life as a conservative evangelical.

On the other hand, Dwight Eisenhower commenced Operation Wetback.

BB
BB
  ICE-9
May 14, 2023 12:57 pm

Ronald Reagan was placed in his favored position as leader of the free world by the same people that put Trump and biden in there. They are just playing games and Satan is the leader of this whole rebellion. How money can take the soul away from people and make them stand there with the same weapons to protect illegals coming into this country completely floors me.
The same way with cops. They are all either crooked or will be eventually.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  ICE-9
May 14, 2023 1:06 pm

Within less than 2 years the tourist town I worked in was overrun. The summer jobs filled by teens and young college adults were GONE. All filled with illegals working for $ 2 bucks an hour , 7 , 8 , 10 to a room.
The business owners thought they had it made. The town family atmosphere turned to shit. Tourists went elsewhere. Nobody could put 2 + 2 together.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
May 14, 2023 2:31 pm

Sounds like coastal Maine

well_Inever
well_Inever
  ICE-9
May 14, 2023 2:30 pm

It’s all one big uniparty.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  well_Inever
May 14, 2023 2:35 pm

Voting fixes this.

/s

k31
k31
  ICE-9
May 14, 2023 3:35 pm

Ronald Reagan was a fraud. He was a weak and immoral man.

James
James
May 14, 2023 12:48 pm

The invaders are color coded for our protection/actions.

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And suddenly,for no reason at all Hitler was voted into power.

BB
BB
  James
May 14, 2023 12:58 pm

Hitler was placed in position by the same groups that elected our presidents.

James
James
  BB
May 14, 2023 1:16 pm

Perhaps,but at least he had “solutions”.

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
May 14, 2023 12:53 pm

New York seems to be in a contest with San Fran to be the biggest commie shithole in the USA.

wilburshuman
wilburshuman
  AKJOHN
May 14, 2023 8:00 pm

You forgot >>>>>>>>> “city” <<<<<<<<<<<<<

New York City……………..

Us Upstaters, Ain't part of that "Shithole"

Hauled my first load of freight into that "Shit hole" ………….

before my 20th Bday , 44 yrs ago.

BabbleOnBee
BabbleOnBee
May 14, 2023 1:01 pm

Just wait till they are told their house is also now “booked” for migrants.

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 14, 2023 1:32 pm

It’s not just buses. Keep looking UP !! Planes by night have been in use for a while.

nypost.com/2021/10/18/biden-secretly-flying-underage-migrants-into-ny-in-dead-of-night/

nationalreview.com/news/biden-administration-quietly-flies-illegal-immigrants-to-new-york-in-middle-of-night-report/

https://www.local3news.com/first-on-3-late-night-flights-carrying-migrant-children-arrive-in-chattanooga/article_f49f3c52-7959-5508-85d7-c080b0b2c611.html

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Anonymous
May 14, 2023 3:40 pm

I personally know a DHS agent who was shipped to AZ for 3 months and assigned to escort illegals on jets inbound all around the US.

I don’t know how she lives with herself.

TCS
TCS
  Mary Christine
May 14, 2023 4:53 pm

I’m related to something far worse. It ain’t easy…but at least they’re retired now.

ursel doran
ursel doran
May 14, 2023 2:16 pm

Open Border Catastrophe is the Cloward-Piven Plan to Destroy America That I Learned at Columbia University – Alongside My Classmate Barack Obama

WAYNE ROOT: Open Border Catastrophe is the Cloward-Piven Plan to Destroy America That I Learned at Columbia University – Alongside My Classmate Barack Obama

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
May 14, 2023 2:35 pm

I like being able to comment on ZeroHedge articles without being banned.
Thanks TBP!
ZeroHedge should try it.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  YourAverageJoe
May 14, 2023 2:37 pm

You win the Internetz for the day.

Signed,

Banned ZH posters Dear Old Hedge, Not Your Father’s ZH, and O-same-old bin Lurkin’

Ben Lurken
Ben Lurken
  Anonymous
May 14, 2023 7:05 pm

Whaddya mean

Anonymous
Anonymous
  YourAverageJoe
May 14, 2023 2:52 pm

and Breitbart , and Citizen Free Press , and Treehouse and ,_______

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 14, 2023 2:51 pm

That’s another chapter in War Is A Racket. They gots anudda trillion for the wars, but nothing for the injured, crazed retarded suckers who keep enlisting. Just go to trade school instead, and learn to frame, plumb, or wire a house, cannon fodder. Or to aggie school, and feed humanity.

WDS
WDS
May 14, 2023 3:02 pm

Hope they enjoy the drug resistant strain of ringworm along with all the other goodies their “new neighbors” brought them.

BabbleOnBee
BabbleOnBee
May 14, 2023 3:15 pm

“What we feel right now is…we feel very cast aside,”
You know what make them feel better?
A volleyball.

BabbleOnBee
BabbleOnBee
  BabbleOnBee
May 15, 2023 3:01 pm

Nobody likes Wilson. He feels cast away….

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 14, 2023 3:59 pm

Rockefeller / deep state plandemic simulation held in 2010. Use of disease outbreak to maintain and expand societal KONTROL.

Lockstep Program

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
May 14, 2023 4:40 pm

It would appear that the smart move would be to exit the system and not spend a single cent or expend another calorie helping to keep it alive.

Imagine instead of planning a wedding in a city- all of which were fully on board with the whole flu mania- and where prices are always higher, they could have had it on someone’s farm, under an open sky, in the fresh air for a fraction of the cost. And what would a troubled PTSD maddened veteran choose the center of an urban area to try and regain his sanity and find some purpose when the country is 95% empty spaces, filled with peace and quiet?

All of our priorities are out of whack, even those we think of as being allied with us in our perception. The only option that would lead to the life we wish to have would be to abandon all ties to the ruins of what once was The West.

Its time is over and something else is coming to replace it. We can either wait for it passively and hope it looks like the thing we dream of, or we can to work on building it one person at a time, right now.

goat
goat
  hardscrabble farmer
May 14, 2023 4:50 pm

Sage advice.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  goat
May 14, 2023 5:09 pm

Um…ok. 🙄

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  hardscrabble farmer
May 14, 2023 5:07 pm

Its time is over and something else is coming to replace it.

Well, you finally got something right.

We can either wait for it passively and hope it looks like the thing we dream of…

Isn’t that what we have been doing all along??? That’s the conservative way, dude.

….or we can work on building it one person at a time, right now.

Ok, sure. But…replacements, ya know.

Hope your 63rd bday was all you hoped it would be. 64 may look a lot different.

Carry on with the positive inspiration, tho.

BL
BL
  Abigail Adams
May 14, 2023 5:18 pm

ABBY- I knew we shoulda moved to the bucolic rolling hills of NH. New England where life is pleasant year-round. Through monetary/government collapse, migrant invasion, societal implosion…..dang hindsight is 20/20.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  BL
May 14, 2023 5:28 pm

For sure, BL. Can’t do that Yankee life, tho. I’m a little too grounded for all that, and prefer to hear the hard cold stone TRUTH, rather than all that BLISS and keeping my head in the clouds.

Ya know, as irritating as they are up there in the North….I STILL don’t support our southern “leaders” sending illegals their way…EVEN THO THEY DESERVE IT!!!!! While funny in the moment, it solves nothing and only proves that ALL of our leaders are Global assholes who are aiding & abetting the invasion, both north & south. New Hamphire WILL NOT be immune. Only a fool would think otherwise.

BL
BL
  Abigail Adams
May 14, 2023 5:36 pm

It wouldn’t bother me if a hundred bus loads were dropped off in Martha’s Vineyard or the farmland of NH, I would be just fine with that. The Yanks dish it but have a hissy when it’s dumped on their doorstep.

I think it would solve some of the problem ,Abby.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  BL
May 14, 2023 5:49 pm

Well, part of me wants that to happen too…the asshole, revengeful part of me.

But deep down, I know it’s not the answer. There are still some good people in those areas, albeit very very VERY few, that will be harmed in having dangerous diseased criminals near their families.

I’d prefer TEXANS to suck it up and show the whole damn country how it’s done and protect our border, therefore the country, where this issue is concerned.

While there are a lot of angry men who are on the verge of doing just that, the numbers are not there because too many of the wrong kind have already moved in…so the fight is not just with illegals anymore, it’s with the marxists too who have made TX their home.

So, while HSF is living in his blissful state, these men will be holding their property lines the best they can.

BL
BL
  Abigail Adams
May 14, 2023 7:15 pm

AA- I would give a kidney to see Martha’s Vineyard stuck with 1000 of these migrants and they HAD TO KEEP all of them.

I’m not sure what I’d have left to give to see them dumped in Beacon Hill/Boston. Oh yeah, that would be great.

wilburshuman
wilburshuman
  BL
May 14, 2023 6:02 pm

I guess either of you don’t think we don’t have’m here already ???

All the HUGE, corperate farms here, have been usin them/ exploiting them for years.!

Minimum wage, no overtime till after 60 hrs, than have the audacity to charge them rent for some “shit hole” of a house to live in…………

Most of them “brown skinned folks” I work with, are just trying to get by But……………………

I always wonder what will happen when that “gentle bull” , will turn on its owner ?????????.

They also get de-ported and then show back up in a month or two………..

Upstate NY has been catering to the illeagles for yrs……….

Sick Kids, yup , heres a medicaide card , not making enough,
have some food stamps………….

No Id………. No problem……….. Give’m a drivers licence………..

I go to renew mine, (which I’ve had since 1975) I need a handful of doc’s to prove who I am, including a B-certificate……….. Go figgure.

The one thing I’ve learned in 64 yrs……………………

If you are a white male…………………

You, are On Your OWN.

BL
BL
  wilburshuman
May 14, 2023 6:47 pm

Wilbur- The few brown folks from south of the border here in KY have gotten fat both in stature and bank accounts. They make big money in home building/additions/rehabs/tree serv/landscape/restaurants etc etc. I call a Mexican first for some types of work.

Those people after a couple generations are more like Americans. What you describe Wilbur is enslavement for the benefit of big corporations. The fact that those slaves get free healthcare etc. at the expense of taxpayers is just another case of corporate welfare. Don’t blame the slaves, blame monopoly capitalism and a criminal mafia government.

wilburshuman
wilburshuman
  Abigail Adams
May 14, 2023 6:34 pm

Lady………………………..

There is folks up here, just like where you came from.

Good Honest, hard workin people, just tryin to get by.

New York, is not just NYC.

Just a few fact’s for you to wrap your head around…………………….

New York IS The Largest holder of “”State”” Owned Forests” in the lower 48

Over SIX and A half MILLION acres at last count with……………

THREE million of that classified as Forever WILD………………..

The largest Concentration Of 40 to 60 cow dairies in the continental US today,
In Yates county………………….

The fith largest producer of Dairy products

2nd in Apple production…/ 9th in produce

And last but not least, one we would like to forget……………

the most, average snow fall year over year………. In the Tug hill plateau………

over 220 inches per year

Only problem here………………….. We is run by a bunch of crooked politicians

just like where you is.

(just a rant by a old man who, had been to Every state east of the Miss. on the Steering wheel side of cabover kenworth by the time he was 22)

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  wilburshuman
May 14, 2023 6:49 pm

Sounds like you’re one of the exceptions I was talking about. Like I said there are a few good ones. I’ve spent time there in the past. It would just be very difficult for me to get used to folks there.

wilburshuman
wilburshuman
  Abigail Adams
May 14, 2023 7:51 pm

“It would just be very difficult for me to get used to folks there.”

The older I get, the less I really care about being around folks at all.

When I was a young one, there were still folks around, who were born before the turn, of the last century…………..

One old woman, whose garden I plowed every year,
made the best dandalion wine you ever drank…………..
I’ve still got the top of the boiler and the condenser from her still.

My dads folks were right up the road from her. No electricity till 49 and running water in the house till 1960.
Had it in the barn tho, so’s they could milk and ship it.

Growin up , that little township was 70% state forest,
sold to/stole by the state during the 30’s
Gramps growin up place was sold in 33 for Ninety cents an acre.

All of this, Twelve miles from Cornell University.

Those old people set the bar, for how I view/interact with people today………….

The younger ones behind me ain’t got a clue, nor do they care about
learning to older ways and…………………………………….
how hard times can get in a few short years.

If I ever, get the chance to get outa here,

Some lil Hollow in WV would suit me perfect.

Probably be more like home then what home turned into today.

goat
goat
  wilburshuman
May 14, 2023 8:01 pm

“Some lil Hollow in WV would suit me perfect.”

Yep, that was my plans to live on the family property in WV. Unfortunately, I was in the minority about selling it. No place on earth I loved more dearly or that was more magical.
Would still love to be up an holler too, but it isn’t likely ever going to happen.
As I told 2nd daughter when we got this new place, I suspect this will be where I make my finale stand.

i forget
i forget
  Abigail Adams
May 14, 2023 7:03 pm

i never forget the stones. you sure that’s whatcha want, hamish?

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  i forget
May 14, 2023 7:43 pm

Lol. I can handle getting hit. I’m not fragile.

Want to play a little game, i forget? Let’s pretend you are in charge of building your own nation. I know, I know, you’d never be in that position, I get it. But…let’s just PRETEND for now. Call it whatever you want…the Land of Que Sera Sera…or whatever floats your boat.

What would that country look like? Would you have any rules whatsoever? Borders? Security? Infastructure? What would the health, educational, enforcement aspects look like in your land? Etc. Etc.

Just curious to see if it’s a place I’d want to move to.

wilburshuman
wilburshuman
  Abigail Adams
May 14, 2023 8:44 pm

try this on for size…………………..

Borders

MIlitia only, No standin army, gun ownership and training
from a young age required. (Jefferson was the best)

No corporations, employee owned Buisness’s

Small family farm holdings only (another Jefferson Idea)

One room, Community run schools………… (Amish & Mennonites do it well), No union run schools system………

Local Sherrifs only……………

Small, kept in check , Government, truly elected by the people
Land ownership required to vote……………
(paper ballots anyone?) Term limits required.

( Jeffersons biggest fear, was Gov, becoming too large, which by 1821 he saw was already happening)

Railroads, local trolly lines like we had an abundance of in the 30’s

A Single rate, tax system for Infastructure .

NO, outside country ownership of Buisnesss , Land, Infastructure.

A constitution, strictly followed, set in stone, no challenges.

And a judical system that has to follow said constitution.
Almost forgot……………………….A Truly , Gold backed Currency!!!!!!!!!!!
hows that to start?

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  wilburshuman
May 14, 2023 9:17 pm

Not a bad start. I’d move there. A few questions…

“Small, kept in check , Government, truly elected by the people.”

Isn’t that what we initially had? How would you handle a complacent and apathetic citizenery?

“And a judicial system that has to follow said constitution.”

What if the justices don’t interpret your constitution the same way you had in mind?

How would you enforce your checks & balances? I mean, we have checks & balances now…but you see how well that works.

goat
goat
  Abigail Adams
May 15, 2023 12:57 am

I agree that is a pretty good list, though I could quibble over the gold backed currency (I would certainly back it with gold, copper, nickel and other metals or better encourage specie of same). He hits most the high points I would have.
There are several checks and balances already included on his list, that were part of our original design of government that we no longer have. Having hard currency / specie is a really huge one.
I would also allow those who didn’t vote for a tax to opt out and or for taxes to be paid in work or materiel.
I would suggest we have very few meaningful ones left. Maybe only two, that being the 2nd and the first, and possibly the court, though tenuously.
I would add a few more, as I have suggested in the past (such as paying the militia on the border by them collecting border crossing fees in specie and requiring an import duty in specie at point of entry, though these things were part of historic checks and balances. at least somewhat in regard the militia. it wasn’t collected by the militia), but the biggest one would be the land ownership system that I also suggested in the past that not only encourageous real land ownership (as he suggest about Jefferson’s inclination of being a nation of enterprise farmers) such that it would put land into as many people’s hands as possible (something we used to have as a goal / policy), but would also limit the accumulation of land beyond the laws of nature (or as locke arguably put it, property rights should be limited within the bounds of nature), without either paying progressively for that violation of nature, and or benefitting those who would contract their natural allotment to cover that violation of the bounds of nature (what we have now is just the opposite, all wealth is accruing to the top at accelerated rates, especially land, which is really the only wealth that truly matters, in a material sense, because all real wealth comes from the land).
As an example, say the allotment was 40 acres (I like that number for historical reasons, but there are certainly other ways to calculate it, such as surface area divided by population. I would also include mineral / timber / water / etc. rights acreage in this calculation IF separated from the land), and you own 200 acres. In theory you would have to pay taxes on the net 160 acres.
But say you have a spouse, 2 children and an elderly parent. You could use them all as a write offs, and you would maintain a tax free state. You would also be less likely to ship grandma off to a nursing home, especially if they charge more if her allotment wasn’t included for her care.
You would also be a hell of a lot less likely to kick your kids to the street.
This example is on the micro scale just for ease of explanation, and that really isn’t who the structure is designed to discourage. Most people would have no taxes at all at the micro, and could realize a net gain if they contracted out their surplus.
It is really designed to bring ownership of land back into the bounds of nature (production / use) on the macro scale of large amounts of land owned through advantage of an infinite money supply that favors the few over the many (that was what the income tax was originally designed to do. It certainly was not designed to tax a man’s labor. there is no income for being compensated for one’s labor. most would probably agree they labor at a loss).
It would also allow people like Caitlin Johnstone to put their money and land allotment were their heart is, by fighting their perceived ecocide by donating their allotment to preserving the nature preserves, etc. (no, gov property would not be exempt).
Generally the trend would be to make as many people as independent as possible, and the need for government as little as possible, and we would hope that the people would guard these checks and balances as jealously as they could.
There are other more subtle benefits as well. It might seem counterintuitive, but basing ownership on area / population would actually decline birth rates and or be less inclined immigration (depending on area of effect of policy), as the realization sunk in that there was diminution of returns on having more population.
Also as a side benefit, it might pay to keep human employees over automation. Something I just recently thought of. In that regard too, somebody outside a venue (like call answer people in India for instance) would not be eligible for allotment deduction either. No citizenship, no allotment.
Micah 4:4 But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the Lord of hosts hath spoken it. KJV

i forget
i forget
  Abigail Adams
May 15, 2023 2:32 pm

Is this a trick question, or just rhetorical: How much failure constitutes proof?*

The “leetle fren” (Scarface Pacino) game you propose is not the game, Abigail. People are the game. And controlling, monetizing, game is more efficiently accomplished when game animals are domesticated.

So the prey animals round up the game animals. And they corral them into geographic feedlots called countries.

Prey animals, in their herds, call those feedlots “home,” call the predators “founding fathers” (& mothers, too, Abigail Adams …), & mail Hallmark cards across the lot to each other.

((David Cole’s recent piece, Pessimistic River: “There are two kinds of bullies – the ones who want you to fear them, & the ones that want you to appreciate them. The former take pleasure in seeing you terrorized. They don’t want you to feign happiness; the goal is to see you sad.

The latter are far more of a mindfuck. It’s the sadism of the abusive spouse. “I’m beating you for your own good, to make you better, to make our household better. Admit it, when you follow my orders everything turns out great. Admit it … I said fucking admit it, you cunt. Show me how fucking happy you are, how you acknowledge that my absolute control over you is beneficial, or I’ll beat you worse.”))

Pessimistic River

And, like every other aspect of this animal husbandry/fattening/mulcting operation, the predators handle & monitor the mail (even in sacrosanct secrecy/neutrality “law” Switzerland …proton? … Bueller? Bueller? … really?)

That the prey animals are corrupt, criminal, sociopathic & cannibalistic is well-used gym equipment here at TBP.

That typical average ordinary Americans – people elsewhere just as much – are also corrupt seekers after “security” also gets lots of reps.

“Security” may not sound as much like that other bad corruption, but it is. Helen Keller was deaf & blind but still knew. You probably already know what she said about security.

What I’ll add is that expecting 3rd parties to provide that, & that whatever they do provide (or seem to) will ~~ can ~~ ever net positive for you, for anyone (including those same can’t help themselves dumbass predators) … that data, reams & reams of it, is in: Impossible.

Completely utopian, that.

How many countries are there currently? How many have come & gone before this current batch? Like religions, are countries. No matter how much failure, there’s always more in the budget for more of the same.

Every permutation’s already been done. Many times. Yet the predators continue to sucker the succor-seeking prey.

So country designing is irrelevant (but for all the time & treasure it wastes). It’s people designing that I’d have to engage in to play the game you ask. Lots of Frankenstein freaks are engaged in that effort, & have been since the get. Better & better domestication is all it is.

I can’t do it. Want no part of it.

Neither can the predators do it. Thus the one long succession of failure.

But all that succor-tash laid out before them just soaks their sheets & gives them complete religious faith in their hard-on divining rods. And rule of thumb wife-beating rods. “Might makes right” is the rite of the not too brite … no matter what the iq might be.

I don’t need, or want the fake succor-soma, either. I doubt I’m the only one, even if I might be the only such one that posts here.

Passion? Cool. That is still emotion. Also cool. I’m not Spock, or a Spock-stumper.

But strong emotion seeking security … from those that are only interested in securitizing you …that’s one side of reichsmarks counterfeit currency (among other variations of the same thing, tri-color sambo included ) & seig heil shit is the other.

Not me.

What I can do, that is in the realm of reality-possibility, is get as far, far from the madding crowd as possible.

So that’s what I’m in charge of building: getting the f outta Dodge.

((I’d love to have this Dodge Charger. Really. But. The roads are Roman. I have no use for (being used by) romanimals (even the ones who claim to be Stoic philosophers) or paying way up for the privilege of that ilk turning such a fine ride into a Mad Max heap. Let alone volunteering to be subject to whatever valuation, for tax-predation purposes, the cattleman’s assoc decides I should be mulcted for. So ultimate success, attained or no, will mean no roads close by.))

Listen to this hilarious Jack Black-like guy talk about this incredible feat of engineering – & art:

I have been in charge of other things.

Including of the building of other things.

Real, actual things (which, parent/hetical, countries aren’t … & despite “render unto Caesar,” seems to me more of ya’ll Kingdom of God people ought to know that, at least as much as I do: countries is heretical bullshit … & the so-called leaders are followers nearer the front, even if just figuratively, than the back).

Including too, figuratively, of light brigades, from a very young age. Could have gone literal, but it didn’t. Never has to go any particular way. Luck has everything to do with everything.

There are undeniable opportunity costs to putting away childish things while still a child – but there are op-costs the other direction, too. Higher costs, by far, I’d say. I’d also say history backs that assertion, too. Extended childhoods are expensive. Permanent childhoods are really expensive.

Domestication is permanent childhood.

The domesticators are not domesticated. Are not of good character. Are not moral. Are fiends – not friends.

So … namesake hubby’s famous quote is, yet another, inversion. “Our constitution was made only for a moral & religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

It is known what the constitutional convention was, what those “fathers” did. That ilk certainly needs what passes for “moral & religious” people to mulct. But actual moral people do not need them, or their jumped up pretty-sounding words tyranny. **

The things people take for granted, need to be bedrock foundational, like countries & other attachments, well, I don’t know if all that boilerplate mantle floats on molten rock, or is just scabs over the void where the Morlocks live, but I do know it’s not solid.

And you do know sinkholes can swallow Texas.

(There ain’t nuthin under all that shit. And there still won’t be when “Six Flags” notches the bedpost one more time & goes by “Seven Flags.” Se7en was not one of your fave flicks I recall. But all those sins? Most just can’t get enough. Which one/s would cover “security” do you think? Gluttony, for punishment, maybe.)

And like I say, start at the start or just keep pretending you’re in the race. The dust you’re eating is real enough, but you ain’t racing if you start late.

(“Look at my dusty face. I’m a racer!” Cue the “I’m a sailor!” scene from What About Bob.)

T/racing, maybe? Kinda like AI art. Or whatever this new tech-dreck is that is going to “compose” things so “writers” can pass it off as their own.

(Interesting: I saw a vintage pic of PYT Vanna White, braless in a tight enough sheer enough & doggone it good enough T, billboarding for the Mint 400. Wheels … of … Fortune … flyin’ way up firm & high ~ Bob Seger ~ through the desert … to selling toothy vowels.)

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There are rules. Laws, actually. They’re not mine. Or anybody’s.

Like gravity.

The principles are the principles & they are not relativistic, not social constructs, not permissions or approvals from on “high” or “the community.”

Lines on maps & other Caesarian Sections (“cultures” anyone? yeah – plenty takers … well, clay petri dish pigeons, I say “pull!” Social proof go poof in a cloud of clay dust.) have nothing to do with it … quite the opposite – that stuff is subversion of laws, principle, reality … solidity. False security Sense & Sensibility.

I think many, maybe even most, know exactly what the principles are.

But the subversion of extended childhoods (many domesticated brats, some domesticated even brattier, BLMbrats, for one example) seems to desecrate-recreate reality into countries & such, where the principles can be disregarded. Are disregarded to the furthest extent possible.

“I once told you
that I would pledge my life…
for our nation of two…
and reside there…
even in death…
as surely as I reside in heaven…
when your arms are around me.
Soon it will be time
to keep that pledge…
and I rejoice to think…
that earthly distractions
will no longer intrude…
on my eternal devotion to you.
From this moment forward…
our nation of two…
is the only country…
I will know.”
As the insanity of the world
descended on us…
my Helga and I survived
by pledging our undying loyalty…
to the only nation
that made any sense to us.
It was called
das Reich der Zwei…
“the nation of two.”

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Or one. That minority-mostest.

Been to a town. It’s a small nation. Been to a nation or two. Those are big towns.

So … it’s not a place to move to. It’s just movement. At least until you can get so far off the map that slowing down won’t be trespassed against by country folk bearing gifts & threatening extortion.

And if I never get there, que sera. Keep moving until the movement is no more.

*Indictment? Conviction? Bueller? Country folk put those black OJ jurors to piker shame.

**

Ridin’ in on your big horse you look me up and down
Starin’ at me like I’m some kind of stranger in your town
And I was down and out needin’ a friend
And you’re one, you help me put my life back together again

Don’t call us, oh we’ll call you, I heard
Don’t call us, we’ll call you
If there’s somethin’ you need to have done
We’ll get in touch with you

I heard you fell from grace, tumbled from your throne
How does it feel now to be left all alone?
The tables have turned, it’s sad but it’s true
Now, you need somebody who will care for you

Oh, you need mamacita, [?] that is true
Oh, you need mamacita, but that is true

Oh, don’t call us, oh we’ll call you
If there’s somethin’ you need to have done
We’ll get in touch with you
I said, don’t call us, we’ll call you
If there’s somethin’ you need to have done
Then we’ll get in touch with you

Those same people you meet on the way up
Oh, are the same people you meet on the way down
Now tell me how does it feel
When you find yourself layin’ there on the ground, oh yeah
Tell me now

Don’t call us, we’ll call you
If there’s somethin’ you need to have done
We’ll get in touch with you
Don’t call us, we’ll call you
If there’s somethin’ you need to have done
We’ll get in touch with you

“Uh, long distance, directory-assistance, area code 212”
I said, “Hey mama, this is Mr. Rhythm-and-Blues”
He said hello and put me on hold
To say the least, the cat was cold
He said, “Don’t call us, child, we’ll call you”
I said, “You got my number?”
He said, “Yeah, I got it when you walked in the door”

Don’t call us… we’ll call you
Don’t call us… we’ll call you

“I got your name from a friend of a friend
Who said he used to work with you
Do you remember the all-night preacher from Stereo-92?”
I said, “Could you relate to our quarter-track tape?
You know the band performs in the nude”
He said, “Uh-uh, don’t call us, we’ll call you”

“Listen kid, you pay for the call
You ain’t bad, but we ‘ve heard it all before
Yeah, it sounds like John, Paul and George”

Anyway, we cut a hit and toured a bit
With the song he said he couldn’t use
And now he calls, and begs and crawls
It’s telephone Deja Vu
We got percentage points and lousy joints
And all the glitter we can use, mama
So, huh, don’t call us, we’ll call you!

You may have heard this one before, too:
“Listen kid, you pay for the call
Well, you ain’t bad but I’ve heard it all before”

Don’t call us… we’ll call you
Don’t call us… we’ll call you

So … Wanna move … there?

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  i forget
May 15, 2023 8:10 pm

Well, you certainly are the master of your craft, not in country designing mind you, but in game playing. Best to leave designer countries to the experts. 😎

Do I wanna move there? Um…that’s a hard one. Lemme see how this descent to anarchy works out first before I make my decision.

So far, I’ve had a really really nice life. Can’t complain. And, it was beyond what the statistics said was possible. I am the product of the “American Dream”…thanks to my dad who literally went from rags to riches with his very own hands. Probably would not have happened that way had he been anywhere else on earth, and for that I’m very grateful. Experience, good & bad, is what shapes how we think & design our lives going forward.

I hope you find what you’re looking for. Better hurry, tho. Kinda running out of time.

Note: Please remind me of this next time I ask you to play a game. 😊

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i forget
i forget
  Abigail Adams
May 15, 2023 9:27 pm

The expertise has been de-curtained. you’ve mistaken who the gamers are. as I just pointed out.

song ain’t wrong: does anybody really know what time it is?

& … this is no descent into anarchy, either.

getting my druthers would be an ascent into it, tho.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  i forget
May 15, 2023 9:40 pm

I know who the gamers are. I understand how it all works. I understand all the problems with human nature.

I understand what you want (not realistic) – at least not for all the inhabitants on earth. I understand what I want (not realistic). Hence the problems of society. We all want different things.

Utopia doesn’t exist. Never will.

But, thanks for playing. Your consolation prize is awaiting you in the Mile High Sanctuary City.

i forget
i forget
  Abigail Adams
May 15, 2023 9:57 pm

was that a stipulation, that all inhabitants on earth had to fit? must have been in the fine print.

& my described ideal is not what anyone would characterize “utopia.” (& not what I had in mind, starting out.)

mischaracterizing so obviously “for effect” has an effect, in at least one board game.

‘do not pass go. do not collect $200.’

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  i forget
May 15, 2023 10:04 pm

No stipulations. No fine print. Just pointing out that there is no perfect solution…even tho many here think there is.

I think many here don’t fully understand what they are asking for. Very few see the big picture…but that’s just my lil’ ol’ opinion.

i forget
i forget
  Abigail Adams
May 15, 2023 10:15 pm

i am pointing out that the game you asked to play was not exactly the game i played. and that the only other person under any kind of consideration for moving “to the country” was you. that’s how you set the presentation.

the whole world? shit & no fine print my end: that is what I want way less of.

no argument. bigpic generalists are slim on the ground.

bigpic generalists-teensy detail specialist combos are even slimmer.

gotta be born in a certain part of Spring to even have a shot at that bounce.🌚

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  i forget
May 15, 2023 10:26 pm

Clear. Crystal clear. 👍

Gotta go to bed. Long long day saving the world. You can thank me later. 😊

i forget
i forget
  Abigail Adams
May 15, 2023 10:34 pm

mencken on the savior-thing (from that blackest lagoon).

sweet dreams …

O. 'IC' Clearly
O. 'IC' Clearly
  i forget
May 14, 2023 8:57 pm

Better to use someone else’s head.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Abigail Adams
May 14, 2023 7:49 pm

It routinely goes to the double digits below zero up here in the Winter. There are no cities with low income housing and the few cities we do have are so small and already so loaded up with dead weight there’s simply no place to put anyone. I guess they can try, but I don’t see it being something a Central American/Middle East/African is going to find to their taste.

I guess we’ll see.

i forget
i forget
  hardscrabble farmer
May 15, 2023 2:28 pm

we talked to more than a few in MT who hoped the same discouragement would soon change invading CA’s minds about the place. I think those are graveyard whistlers.

you want some people – Bob Seger _ E. of the mississippi’s got the most.

“katmandu”

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Abigail Adams
May 14, 2023 6:34 pm

It was- as it has been my good fortune thoughout my life- a perfect day. The air temperature, the smell of lilacs, the blue sky filled with rolling clouds slowly unfurling across the horizon. Every tree has come into leaf, the apple and cherry trees are all covered in fragrant blossoms and the garden has been flipped and is ready for planting.

In response to your words above, nothing I do is passive and I’m not a conservative. How you’ve made that category error is beyond me, but let me take a stab at it.

Every time you post, regardless of how well you may string words together, there is a constant buzz of emotion running through it. Everything is personal and it always prompts a rhetorical response even when it serves no purpose whatsoever. I wish this weren’t the case, but you know it’s true. I would love to discuss these topics with you in a way that involves give and take, exchanging opinions and working through ideas to try and come to a better understanding of whatever it is we’re discussing at the moment. I mean that, genuinely and without reservation.

I do offer inspiration. I have regular visitors to the farm every single day, week in and week out, not for pay, but to spend the day or the week or the month working towards something, learning from each other, building real relationships with like-minded souls who wish to make a difference and accomplish something of value. My gate is open, I don’t pretend to be something I’m not and I don’t give in to either despair or false hopes. I find that there are people who appreciate that even if we get catagorized as doomers. Behind every dark cloud and all that jazz.

I think your estimation of what I try to convey is far off the mark, and perhaps it’s my fault due to my flowery prose, as you put it. That’s just the way I write and I really don’t think I am going to be able to change my voice much at this stage of the game. Read it/don’t read it, same/same.

For what it’s worth I have a very deep affection for Texas and I spent years touring there, camping in the piney woods of east Texas, fishing the Brazos, looking for arrowheads along the shores of Kerr Lake and along the edges of Alibates and standing in the wide open dark looking for the Marfa lights. I have a great photo of me and my long gone road dog Freeway sitting on top of the world’s largest pecan in Seguin sitting on a shelf across from where I type this very moment. I proposed marriage to my wife over thirty years ago at a Pappadeaux Seafood Restaurant in Katy and will treasure that memory for as long as I live, so no ill intent towards your homeland, at all. It is criminal what they’ve done with the border, but you have to know that there is no way to ever walk it back now. The Southwest is over as a part of the USA and that’s not going to change no matter how much it hurts. Our people were never meant for that climate anyway and the ones filling it up now were there before so there is a cold comfort in knowing that Nature has triumphed even if it means we lose.

And in closing (always wanted to say that) Let me state that I am definitely not a New Englander, either by birth or disposition. I am a son of New Jersey where my people have been buried for close to 400 years and leaving it behind was a kind of death for me, but I had a family to think of and it was clear that my children would be a minority in their own hometown- and a despised one at that- and that wasn’t the world I wanted to raise them in, so we chose this place, where the weather and the soil make it hospitable to a very distinct type of people and we’ve acclimated to it quite well. I was back in Hopewell a couple of weeks ago to lay flowers on the graves of my family and visit with the friends we left behind, but it was clear that it was an alien environment no matter how familiar it felt. Sad, but true. Sometimes you have to admit defeat and move on, that’s just the way of the world.

So here’s to moving on in some kind of common respect, if not admiration.

You keep doing you and I’ll keep being me, but let’s cut out all this punching to the right, it serves no purpose.

AND IN CLOSING-

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Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  hardscrabble farmer
May 14, 2023 6:54 pm

Ok, that’s all you had to say.

And, I very well understand that we have been defeated. Have known that for a while now. I knew it would always come down to it coming to our front porch…and now that time is here.

And, for the record, you are as punchy as they come. You don’t like my style, and yours *sometimes* rubs me the wrong way. So, call it even.

BL
BL
  Abigail Adams
May 14, 2023 7:02 pm

Is it 1860 again?

It’s all over but the punching.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  hardscrabble farmer
May 14, 2023 7:23 pm

Oh, also HSF…what you call “emotion” is actually passion.

I am a very passionate person. God makes people that way for a reason. I am VERY good at what I do in real life and that is all due to passion. I do not know how to communicate otherwise. So sue me.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Abigail Adams
May 14, 2023 9:34 pm

I know you are. That’s why I relate to you so well. I understand you and your language. Like minds and all.

I’m ok with being entirely misunderstood. I’m used to it.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  Abigail Adams
May 14, 2023 9:41 pm

Ok, will do.

BL
BL
  Abigail Adams
May 14, 2023 9:45 pm

Is it the big thing from the WSJ?

BL
BL
  Abigail Adams
May 14, 2023 10:06 pm

Changed from , be sure to be here on this site tomorrow.- To be safe in your travels, …….interesting.

wilburshuman
wilburshuman
  hardscrabble farmer
May 14, 2023 7:30 pm

HEY Mister……………………..

Hope you had a Super Duper B-day !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mine was terrific !!!!!!! Went to a lil country diner for breakfast, that I hadn’t been in , in about 40 yrs, absolutely great,

Went to tcs, went to a hobby shop and Bs’ed with the fellow there for an hour and a half, got my old wreck of a truck inspected,

overall………….

Best one I’ve had since ending up, up here

Hope yours was as good !!

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  wilburshuman
May 14, 2023 7:44 pm

Back at you. I even set up the hammock and took a nap. Treated like a king by the family and finished up with a poker game and some good bourbon with the neighbors.

Could not have asked for a better day.

Iggy
Iggy
May 14, 2023 5:58 pm

Keep dining out,hiring landscapers and cheap contractors and you will get more.

OALA
OALA
May 14, 2023 8:54 pm

new york hotels? 🤣 x 1000.

Nearly GUARANTEED. Gettin’ 10X the ‘normal’ daily rate, MINIMUM.

ze bugs
ze bugs
May 15, 2023 12:55 am

The hotel in Question is part of a chain of hotels. Guess who owns a big stake in that chain?

ze bugs
ze bugs
May 15, 2023 1:00 am

The easiest way to get Myorkos to shut the border is to send a couple thousand white Europeans across it. Then it will be nailed shut.

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 15, 2023 9:14 am

“Nice hotel ya got there–be a shame if something happened to it”..