Air Defense Lessons

Guest Post by Moon of Alabama

This is factual:

Patriot Missiles Won’t Save UkraineNational Interest – May 9, 2023

Patriot systems are limited to pinpoint defense of major assets and are designed to operate in tandem with air defenses engaging targets at higher and lower altitudes. Without these additions, Patriot will have too many threats to engage and the result will either be porous coverage that doesn’t protect its defended assets, or coverage that quickly subsides when Patriot runs out of interceptors.Moreover, Patriot systems are themselves vulnerable. Operating a Patriot radar system gives away its location, making it an open target for Russian attacks. This means that Patriot is not a one-stop-shop for defending Ukraine’s military assets or its people.

Those facts were proven last night.

War Monitor @WarMonitors – 1:23 UTC · May 16, 2023⚡️I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but after careful review of this video, it appears that the air defence battery (most likely patriot) tried to save itself, but failed. It most probably got toasted.
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Those were expensive two minutes for the ‘West’:

Fennec_Radar @RadarFennec – 1:45 UTC · May 16, 2023I counted 30 Patriot PAC-3 MSE launches here.
The FY2024 costs of these per missile is about $$5,275,000
That was $158,250,000 fired in about two minutes. And as we see, the battery or something else likely got blown up. So it failed in its mission.
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This though is likely not true. Kinzhals are simply too fast to be hit by any of Ukraine’s air defenses:

Defense of Ukraine @DefenceU – 6:40 UTC · May 16, 2023Last night, russian terrorists attacked Ukraine with:
– 6 Kinzhal aeroballistic missiles
– 9 Kalibr missiles
– 3 ground-launched missiles
– drones

ALL TARGETS SHOT DOWN.
Glory to the Ukrainian Air Forces!
We are grateful to our partner states for strengthening our air defense capabilities.

The casualty numbers in today’s clobber report by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation may be a bit exaggerated but the general operational facts are usually true:

The Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation launched a combined attack with long-range precision-guided air- and sea-based weapons against the AFU units, as well as depots of ammunition, weapons and military equipment supplied by Western countries.The goal of the attack has been reached. All the assigned targets have been neutralised.

U.S.-manufactured Patriot surface-to-air missile system has been struck by Kinnzhal hypersonic glide vehicle in Kiev.

Fighter Aviation of Russian Aerospace Forces have shot down Su-24 and Su-25 aircraft of Ukrainian Air Force near Varvarovka and Krasnoarmeysk (Donetsk People’s Republic).

Air defence forces intercepted seven Storm Shadow long-range cruise missiles, three HARM anti-radar missiles and seven HIMARS multiple-launch rocket system projectiles.

Air defence facilities have shot down 22 unmanned aerial vehicles close to Ivanovka and Yevgenovka (Donetsk People’s Republic), Topolyovka (Lugansk People’s Republic), Inzhenernoye, Blagoveshchenka (Zaporpzhye region), and Krynki (Kherson region).

Ukraine does not have an integrated air defense that can attack all air targets at all levels. Russia though has such an integrated system of systems. It makes for a huge difference.

Updated – 16:30 UTC:

U.S. confirms hit on Patriot system:

Alex Marquardt @MarquardtA – 16:23 UTC · May 16, 2023A Patriot system was likely damaged but not destroyed by a Russian missile barrage Monday night, a US official tells @NatashaBertrand. US is still assessing the damage which to determine whether the system needs to be pulled back entirely or be repaired by the Ukrainians.

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11 Comments
awoke
awoke
May 17, 2023 12:07 pm

Both sides lie

Stucky
Stucky
  awoke
May 17, 2023 5:02 pm

“Both sides lie”

True. But, one side does it a thousand time more intensely and frequently. For example, a few days ago the NJ Shit Ledger ran a story about how Ukie-fuks had successfully taken back a portion of Bakhmut. Perhaps you heard the same bullshit. Here is more likely the truth …

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https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/analysis-of-kofman-lees-urgent-new

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jlw
jlw
May 17, 2023 12:13 pm

The MIC made their money… the system actually working is secondary. Maybe we need more trannies ‘manning’ the batteries!

Euddie
Euddie
May 17, 2023 12:22 pm

Note to self: “Buy Raytheon stock”

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Euddie
May 17, 2023 3:06 pm

RTN is a pig. Even with all this and their stuff being bought in quantity it has gone nowhere. I sold mine and it’s down from there. LMT has done much better.

m
m
May 17, 2023 1:05 pm

In other news, Japan shot down and destroyed 18 nukes before two finally made it through to Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  m
May 17, 2023 7:09 pm

None made it through- fire bombed like all other Japanese cities.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
May 17, 2023 3:11 pm

One of the more thrilling passages in Clancy’s “Red Storm Rising” from ’86 was the Wild Weasel attack on the Soviet batteries in Iceland. It also demonstrated the kind of power projection available to some of our Governors should the need arise as Clancy described the planes carrying out the attack: “They were Phantom jets from the New York Air National Guard.”

Stucky
Stucky
May 17, 2023 4:32 pm

“The Patriot system is modular and highly mobile. A battery-sized element can be installed in less than an hour. All components, consisting of the fire control section (radar set, engagement control station, antenna mast group, electric power plant) and launchers, are truck- or trailer-mounted. The radar set and launchers (with missiles) are mounted on M860 semi-trailers, which are towed by Oshkosh M983 HEMTTs. ”

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So, all that shit costs about ONE BILLION dollahs …. in addition to $5 million PER missile. hahaha … fukit, it’s just funny money anyway.

Someone needs to train the Ukie nazis the art of bullshitting.. Patriots can NOT track and shoot down hypersonic missiles. Everyone knows this. So why are these lying fucks constantly saying they shot down EVERY missile the Russians launch? Lawdy, they be some world class dumbfuks.

gadsden flag
gadsden flag
May 17, 2023 7:37 pm

the patriot missile system takes out a kinzhal like a kamikaze takes out a raft.

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 18, 2023 9:15 am

The Russians must have laughed hard after a small amount of money baited the Patriot system so it could be targeted with no defenses. We send new targets to Ukraine so the MIC can produce new weapons and profits. psychos don’t care about the people killed.