Eugenics, Yet

Submitted by Keith B.

Guest Post by Fred Reed

It is curious. Eugenics, meaning approximately the control of breeding to produce desired traits was once a popular idea, espoused by Charles Darwin, as well as such illustrious liberals as H. G. Wells and George bernard Shaw, a raft of feminists including Margaret Sanger, and countless officials from Churchill to Gandhi. The field is now in very bad odor. Why, precisely?

Eugenics is of course routinely practiced today in various forms. For example, students at CalTech are chosen for very high intelligence and, when they marry, doubtless hope for and expect intelligent children. Eugenics. When a woman patronizing a sperm bank asks for an intelligent and healthy donor, she is practicing eugenics. In many jurisdictions, prenatal screening detects various defects which are then aborted. Eugenics.

The place of genetics in public policy is fraught, to put it mildly. An observation often made is that modern medicine keeps alive to reproductive age people with genetic defects that would in earlier times have killed them in childhood. These are many, running from anaphylactic shock and death from allergies to Down’s syndrome to diabetes to Celiac disease and Tay-Sachs. Since these are no longer eliminated from the gene pool, they become progressively more common.

Not good, but what to do about it? Detect these in utero and abort them? Tell a bright and otherwise normal young woman that she cannot have children because they might have Celiac’s? (This would include one of my daughters, so I am not wildly enthusiastic.)

A common thread in the thinking of the many often-leftish proponents of eugenics was that various forms of public assistance encouraged prolific breeding by people of low intelligence and other genetic defects. The result would be an increasing load of imbeciles and approximations thereunto, constituting a burden on society. This thought, today almost meriting a death sentence, was once widely accepted. Biologically speaking, it was correct. But what, if anything, to do about it?

Most crime is committed by young men of low intelligence and poor impulse control, the two being closely associated, and such men are seldom employable in a technological society. This is easily demonstrated. But what to do about it? As their numbers increase, the problem worsens. What to do about it? Keep building more jails?

Another observation is that the more intelligent people are, the fewer children they have. There seem to be several reasons for this. previously all women, including the very bright, were expected to stay in the house and to have and care for children. Dull-witted women couldn’t imagine doing anything else, and the bright hadno choice. Today smart women can become biochemists or lawyers or pretty much anything else, and often find these more interesting than changing diapers. Anyone moving in the professional classes of, say, Washington, will know very bright women either unmarried or childless by choice.

The result of low fecundity among the smart and exuberant reproduction by the dim is, at least according to those who study these things, a slow diminution of the national mean IQ. Or maybe not so slow.

This observation will be furiously attacked by the woke, presumably innocent of high-school biology. The politics of the day holds that if you pretend a problem doesn’t exist, it won’t. In a deeply anti-intellectual America steeped in resentment of superiority and rapid endumbment of the schools and the entire culture, nothing can be discussed that might unsettle the mob. The consequences are going to be fascinating.

Yet it is interesting to consider policies offered by the advocates of eugenics. These will be shocking to the modern mind, such as it is. But remember that in former times things could be discussed that today are verboten.

One approach, widely practiced both in America and Europe, was compulsory sterilization of what were called idiots, moron, or imbeciles. This was not then regarded as justlikehitler, and seemed to many good-hearted people as preferable to having such defectives living miserably at public expense. Recently I have seen it said that we should not eliminate Down’s syndrome because those suffering from it were a desirable form of societal diversity.

Another suggestion was to offer to pay the hopelessly dull to undergo voluntary sterilization. I don’t know whether this was ever done. Given that such people cannot raise children, this might be the best available idea.

At the other end of the scale, paying the intelligent to reproduce was thought a good idea. This had the advantage that it did not compel anyone to do anything. Nor was it impractical. If couples of mean IQ 150 were offered a thousand dollars a month per child with a guarantee of having the university expense of the resulting rugrats paid, many might go for it. At the 150 level takers would be few enough and the payoff arguably high enough in gifted Americans that the expense would be worth it. Regression toward the mean, yes, but keeping good genes in the pool matters. Or would if we did it.

To me it is interesting that so many major figures favored eugenics and supported its compulsory application. Yet oddly, at least by today’s standards, many conservatives were against eugenics, as for example Chesterton, often on religious grounds. But it was widely accepted that the good to society justified the inconvenience to the retarded.

Well and good, and interesting. However it is obvious that nothing will be done that smacks of eugenics, at least as regards intelligence, impulse control, and criminality. But genetic diseases? In the case of things like hemophilia, Tay-Sachs, and cystic fibrosis, in utero screening is done. But should we end up aborting fetuses for every detectable anomaly? A gluten allergy for example? In a society in which a fair few favor partial-birth abortion, what if a defect is noticed three minutes after birth? Slippery slpes and such.

Crime and welfare dependency are another matter. The link between crime and low intelligence is well established with its concomitant of poor awareness of the future, and poor impulse control. People of low IQ can seldom read and make poor employees. Pockets of this sort of thing exist in the slums of London and did, maybe still do, in the back hollers of West Virginia and are rampant in American cities.

What to do? Would it make sense to encourage the most intelligent in the urban underclass to have children while discouraging the retarded? I don’t know, but it doesn’t matter as nothing will be done. We will on average become less intelligent, less healthy, and more criminal. Whoopee.

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29 Comments
Anonymous
Anonymous
July 17, 2023 6:54 pm

Lab made pathogens that target specific demographics seems to be where it’s going.

The eugenicists get to sit back and ” blame Mother Nature ”. Handy.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
July 17, 2023 8:29 pm

Maybe some biowar, yes, but more have and will be killed by economic hitmen.

Euronymoose
Euronymoose
  Anonymous
July 17, 2023 9:15 pm

Or just target demographic regions.
Far easier, cheaper and doable than exotic poisons that target DNA.

Think, how easy would it be to target groups who all shop at specific food stores?
Jeezey olOccams peeps

ze bugs
ze bugs
  Euronymoose
July 18, 2023 12:50 am

Half the world sent their DNA into 23 & me which is owned by Google.

TCS
TCS
  ze bugs
July 18, 2023 8:59 am

One moronic traitor in your family tree and you’re undone…just that simply.

ze bugs
ze bugs
  Anonymous
July 18, 2023 12:49 am

Once you have the human genome you can create things that target specific DNA pools. FACT.

Wolverine
Wolverine
July 17, 2023 7:01 pm

The coming collapse will seriously cull the herd. Without government welfare support and no learned or natural skills, such individuals/families will have a tought time surviving. Natures way of ensuring the survival of the fittest. This phenomenon is beginning to show in some third world countries where governments are overburdened and churches and other NGO have fed the poor without giving them a path to employment/education and a future. They cling to the belief that having more children that enough will survive to provide for them in old age.

It is particularly sad for those that will perish because those contributing to this problem honestly believe they are doing the right thing. Saving the poor a half a world away is “Gods Work”. The truth of the matter is that this charity is far more effective when it serves their local community.

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
  Wolverine
July 17, 2023 9:18 pm

If Americans don’t take care of America First, there will be no America to provide for the World.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  YourAverageJoe
July 17, 2023 9:49 pm

If we have to take up the white man’s burden, then let america burn.

TCS
TCS
  Anonymous
July 18, 2023 9:02 am

So go immolate yourself! What’s the hold up?

TCS
TCS
  YourAverageJoe
July 18, 2023 9:01 am

We should never have assumed that station among Men in the first damned place. We’re getting what we deserve. We knew we weren’t qualified from the start.

Botched_Lobotomy
Botched_Lobotomy
July 17, 2023 8:42 pm

We don’t need to join the Left in slaughtering babies. If you want to improve the gene pool, close the border and end all immigration. Deport as many illegals as you can catch. Let the “urban youths” keep killing each other off. In a decade or so allow limited immigration from Europe by white, Christian professionals who can add something positive to the country.

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
  Botched_Lobotomy
July 17, 2023 9:20 pm

What a realist point of view.
How dare you!

Euronymoose
Euronymoose
July 17, 2023 10:49 pm

Geneticists study Genes
Eugenicists study Eugenes.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Euronymoose
July 18, 2023 12:38 am

Eugenes.

I picture some faggot bragging in an up-talking voice, about his collection of Portugues Azulejos, over a Starbucks latte, while unceaseingly adjusting his man-purse vs. his over the shoulder sweater.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
July 18, 2023 11:56 am
A cruel accountant
A cruel accountant
  Euronymoose
July 18, 2023 8:15 pm

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hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
July 17, 2023 11:31 pm

He suffers from wet brain.

Today smart women can become biochemists or lawyers or pretty much anything else, and often find these more interesting than changing diapers. Anyone moving in the professional classes of, say, Washington, will know very bright women either unmarried or childless by choice.

The arrogance coupled with ignorance never fades with Fred. Yes, the thrill of Zoom meetings to arrange further Zoom meetings, shuffling ex parte documents around the cubicles, and deciding which fast food restaurant to hit for lunch is certainly thrilling to the highly intelligent woman, but only a dimwit would want to spend time teaching her own children how to walk, speak, read and cook.

Motherhood is the font of humanity and culture, and upon it rests the future of civilization. And Senor Burnout thinks the intelligent woman are in D.C.? Doing what, exactly? Cleaning catboxes, alone, their abortion scarred wombs are as barren as their lives.

Eugenics is coming back, in a big way, he’s just to sloshed to see it.

Nature bats last, Fredo.

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 18, 2023 12:33 am

Fred Reed is just being silly and controversial.

He won’t say “black,” but rather “young men of low intelligence and poor impulse control.” And he tries to blame “most crime” on these folks. Yes, violent crime is bad – especially when it is so obvious. But “most crime?”

The crime that causes by far the most pain across groups is corruption. Look at the halls of Congress, the corporate boardrooms, the judicial chambers, and the political action groups. Then look deeper into the various agencies of the executive branch. Look at the lobbyists and law firms. And then again, look at intelligence distributions.

Fact is that the most criminal people are those who are pulling the levers of power. Pookie and Ray-Ray, shooting at each other over a bit of (CIA provided) crack or their baby-mommas are nothing compared to the CIA who are providing the crack and the multi-nationals who are laundering that money and buying the politicians, who squeeze the middle class and promote poverty, ignorance, and desperation amongst the less fortunate.

The people running things are not evil geniuses. They are simply evil. The powers that be are mostly well-connected mediocres, whose perfidity is hidden by other mediocres in the media class.

If you want to stop Pookie and Ray-Ray from dicking around, broad application of the 2nd Amendment and the Castle doctrine will suffice. If you want to actually prevent Pookie and Ray-Ray from coming into existence, then you do NOT need abortion. You just need to put the smack down on the music industry, the advertising industry, the prison-industrial complex, the banksters, the republicrat party hold on elections, etc.

If you want widespread freedom, you need to crush the bankers (again), the various think-tanks, the various tri-lateral-club-of-rome-WEF-bilderberg-and-so-ons. You need to harness and minimize the corporations who have no accountability, no earthly death, and immense wealth.

Fred want to snuff folks before they ever have a chance. Or at least he wants to explore it as a possibility.

Maybe Fred should have sit-down with St. Paul. If we all followed St. Paul’s wisdom, we’d be better off. Work silently for the food you eat. Never cease from doing good. Wives, honor your husbands. Husbands, love your wives like Christ does His Church. Do not engage in various perverted fornications. The laborer is worth his hire. And so on. St. Paul has written many espistles, and all of them are spot on.

But Fred wants us to (maybe) delete inconvenient individuals, while at the same time our country is being flooded with all the “intelligent, first-world, educated folks” amongst whom he has made his home.

Fred, please just go away.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Anonymous
July 18, 2023 3:17 pm

If we all followed St. Paul’s wisdom, we’d be better off.

Amen to that right there!

WHAT?
WHAT?
July 18, 2023 12:48 am

The people promoting eugenics are all UGLY. On what planet is someone that looks like Gates, Schwab or Zuckerberg genetically superior?

TCS
TCS
  WHAT?
July 18, 2023 9:05 am

There is no beauty in Hell.

Guest
Guest
  WHAT?
July 18, 2023 9:05 am

I’ve always said that about people who talk about sex all of the time. Ew.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Guest
July 18, 2023 12:04 pm

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Lighten up, Francis.

m
m
July 18, 2023 1:56 am

students at CalTech are chosen for very high intelligence […]. Eugenics.

🤣🤣

That’s almost as good as Michael Hudson declaring public roads or public utilities are only being built by Socialist [systems of government].

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 18, 2023 6:34 am

up until very recently – basically until the late 19th century – we did not have to worry about any kind of moral dilemma on this issue. the really defective specimens generally failed to survive to reproducing age and that alone led a general tendency to improvement. Only where there is sufficient surplus wealth around for people to a, go soft and lose their senses, and b, have the leisure to act on this and support the defectives, does this dynamic get turned upside down. When we all were living with a narrow margin of survival, it was universally good to _strive_ to do whatever one could to help everyone make it.. precisely because in the end of the day we were not going to make a dent in the natural winnowing out of defective specimens anyway.. This tendency to do ‘good’ has become, naturally, a deeply embedded part of humanity and thats not a bad thing. it’s just operating way outside its performance envelope the past century and a half with the undreamable surplus wealth of the industrial age being wasted on all sorts of retarded shit, supporting defectives being only one of those items.
In the first few generations where we started to have enough surplus that we _could_ support all swathes of degenrates, we still had enough serious people to say loudly and publicly that this is not a good idea.
Probably the single event that changed that was the first world war. All across the western world, exactly the brave, serious, intelligent, capable, disciplined men were slaughtered. the cowards and defectives and the women took over society.. and their demagogues behind the scenes pulling the levers on all sorts of new mass media tools like radio to ‘guide’ them.

the rise of the machine was never a very good idea for the quality and wholesomeness of humanity. the collapse of the machine , which the ruling class has been trying to ride through a controlled demolition to hang on to their positions of status , power, and wealth, will be in the end a clearing out of a whole lot of dead wood.

Perfect Stranger
Perfect Stranger
July 18, 2023 7:54 am

I have a simple proposal for a government program that I would gladly pay extra taxes to fund.

A program that offered any young person aged 18-40 a one time payment (What would it take 5k, 10 grand?) in exchange for a permanent sterilization that would be non reversible. In order to qualify, the person also could not have any children already.

Totally voluntary, and it would really help after a few decades. It would ultimately be much cheaper than welfare.

Guest
Guest
July 18, 2023 8:09 am

Smart people can just do evil better, as an example.
This is a perfect article for the technocratic society and AI could have written it.

A cruel accountant
A cruel accountant
July 18, 2023 8:19 pm

If a woman wants to commit genetic suicide.

Let her!