One alleged truck thief is dead, another wounded in a Texas shootout that also left the vehicle’s owner wounded. The dead man’s brother audaciously claims “the victim was my brother” — a sentiment that will find few subscribers in the Lone Star State.
The action started early Thursday afternoon at the South Park Mall on the southwest side of San Antonio. A 45-year-old man exited the mall along with his female passenger, only to find his Ford truck was missing. Looking around, they spotted the truck in a nearby lot at the same mall — with the apparent thieves sitting in it.
The owner approached his truck and — displaying a pistol — ordered the 34-year-old male driver and the thief’s 25-year-old female passenger to step outside and take a seat on the pavement. Two minutes after police were called, the male suspect drew a pistol from his waistband and shot the truck’s owner.
The owner returned fire, hitting and killing the shooter and critically wounding the shooter’s companion. Clarifying the account at a press conference held at the mall, San Antonio police chief William McManus said, “The bad guy is the one dead, yes. The driver of the stolen vehicle is deceased, shot by the owner of the stolen vehicle.”
When questioned about the propriety of the truck owner’s actions, McManus was quick to render a verdict. “Certainly a case of self-defense is what we have. Look, he was trying to recover his property,” McManus said. “I guess it would depend on who you asked if he did the right thing or not.”
“We would prefer that they call the police before taking that into your own hands,” McManus said. “But he (the truck’s owner) did what he felt he needed to do and we have one dead suspect and we have a critically wounded passenger who was with the suspect and we have a wounded owner of the vehicle.”
Speaking to KENS 5 at the scene, the dead man’s brother, Jose Garcia, said the truck owner was wrong:
“The victim was my brother and there are two sides to every story. Whether my brother was wrong or right, he had a gun pointed at him. I guess he took it upon himself to defend himself.
The guy who shot him is a vigilante, not a hero. A vehicle is not worth taking someone’s life, I don’t care what kind of car it is. You don’t take the law into your own hands. Now my mom, my family, we all have to suffer and just deal with it.”
Texas affords citizens more latitude than most when it comes to using force to recover stolen property. “Potentially, under Texas law, he may have been acting within what the law says he got to do,” Alexandra Klein, an assistant law professor at San Antonio’s St. Mary’s University told NBC.
Here’s to armed self-defense and laws that enable the defense of property.
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Here’s the right title: The Feel Good Story of the Day.
There, fixed it for ya.
Woohoo and yeehaw… 🤠
In the old West, the law hung horse thieves…
If the victim didn’t shoot ’em first…
The Old West looks like a civilized society, compared to today’s Clown World…
In Texas it is a 3rd degree felony to steal 1 or more head of horses, cattle, exotic livestock or exotic fowl or 10 or more head of sheep, swine or goats worth $150,000 or less in total value, if the value is over $150,000 to $300,000 is a 2nd degree felony, over $300,000 1st degree felony.
Cattle rustling is a big thing in Alberta these days. Farmers are reporting cattle theft all over the province. Time to bring some frontier justice into play, and a backhoe.
Lesson to be learned here. Never take your eyes off your enemy. In high stress situations its real easy to make mistakes.
Forgot to mention…
God Bless Texas!!!
I so love a happy ending.
Don’t mess with Texans.
Coloradans too. At least some of us packing.
Your brother FAFOed, Jose Garcia.
Auntie loves near-immediate reinforcement of behaviour. B.F. Skinner is really proud.
Stealing a man or woman’s truck in Texas? Obviously a now-deceased retard. Good. (Does this make Auntie a bad person? Also good.)
Auntie,
this^^^ is why you’re my favorite aunt! BRUTAL truth!
Hugs, L.
So sweet, L.
Justice is justice.
Delivered instantly or at a later date.
I prefer it happen as soon as possible.
The owner was smart to make the perp exit the vehicle before plugging him. Getting blood stains out of upholstery is a royal BITCH. Washes right off the paint job easy as shooting a truck thief!
A sincere FUCK YOU! you piece of shit.
Any comment on your brothers CRIMINAL actions that lead to his well deserved death?
Any comment about the owner or his family? What your asshole brother forced this man to do?
Hope you join your brother soon.
BTW, your brother was not a victim, he was a thief who would be alive if he did not try to shoot the owner of the tuck. Glad he is compost now.
Tell us how you really feel, Anny.
The thief decided the truck was more important than his own life. Can’t the thief’s brother accept that decision?
Taco niggers are not real people like you and me. You can’t expect them to reason.
Stop holding back.
Well Jose, maybe you should just swim back to Mexico if you don’t like Texas frontier justice.
Sounds good to me.
What shitheads. It’s wrong for the owner to shoot this perp over a truck BUT it was OK for the perp to shoot the owner for trying to hold him for the police whereby everything would have been settled without gunfire? Jose Bean Dip is a sociopath as likely was his now composting hermano. Fuck this whole scum family.
“It’s wrong for the owner to shoot this perp over a truck . . .”
The owner shot the thief not over a truck but because the thief shot him!
So apparently the dead guy stole the vehicle but was so brazen and/or stupid that he didn’t even bother to leave the immediate area with it. I can honestly say that I have zero fucks to give about him getting blown away by the vehicle’s owner. And the brother can eat a giant bag of shut the hell up as far as I’m concerned too.
I have plenty of fucks to give. I fucking love that the POS is dead.
Thieves. A warning.
Thieves have stolen some of my most treasured items. Things that belonged to my family going back generations.
If I ever catch one, I will not call the police. I will bind them with barbed wire to a tree, and set them on fire. But don’t worry, I won’t let you burn to death, I will extinguish you so you can suffer and die of shock from the pain.
You have been warned.
3 words…
Shoot…
Shovel…
Shuddap!!!
Nah. Not anymore. I am old and don’t care.
Life sentence has little threat anymore. A small price to char a well deserving POS.
I would probably webcast the immolation.
The 3 esses.
The only way to deal with a problem when the government won’t.
Vigilantism is horrific, but criminal anarchy is far worse.
Ammo up. We are on our own. Your governments hate you
and are doing NOTHING to protect you..
Look to Hati for economical solutions to everyday problems. Store a couple of used tires and some gas in a squirt bottle like dish detergent comes in.
Use kerosene, much lower evaporation rate, won’t rot plastic as quickly, longer burn to get the tire started.
Vigilantism is NOT horrific. It is the way disputes have been settled for millennia. Organized police and courts are a new and novel concept, as applied to the populace at large. There have always been magistrates, but they have always focused on enforcing the government’s “rights,” not those of the little people.
The westward expansion in the United States depended upon vigilantism to enforce individual rights and local customs. It did so effectively, and most western towns were very peaceful.
In this case, the situation was obvious to the participants. The wronged individual, the perpetrator, the evidence of crime, was all there and known. How does involving other, unrelated individuals, delaying hearings, and letting third parties argue about it help achieve justice?
Two things to ponder:
1) The protection of life, property, and rights are delegated by the people to various gov’t agencies, but these rights inhere in the people. By what principle should the be people constrained from exercising these rights directly?
2) The Old Testament rule of “An Eye for an Eye, a Tooth for a Tooth” was a limit on violence, NOT an excuse or incitement for it.
Don’t forget the big city version.
Shoot, skedaddle, and shut up.
two points to this story: 1) excellent outcome; 2) demonstration of a stupid, lawless mindset by the family.
stupid carries a price, like it, or not. from the response of the family, they better learn the lesson imparted rather than remain stupid like the perp.
I always have my pistol with me and also bought the US LawSheild membership in case I have to cap a democrat, their legal team handles it.
I have something similar through my shooting range. They provide $1m insurance for members legal costs. Cheap at a $49/year membership.
Joe, I believe US LawSheild began life as Texas LawSheild of which I am a long time member as well.
F that guy and F his brother Jose Garcia too! Maybe your POS brother shouldn’t be stealing peoples hard earned property…and per the story, your POS brother drew and shot first! These families need to lay blame and responsibility where it’s due…the pos criminal.
“The victim was my brother and there are two sides to every story. Whether my brother was wrong or right, he had a gun pointed at him. I guess he took it upon himself to defend himself.
Latino logic re crimes commited by relatives:
“My brother was only defending himself in the commision of grand theft auto.”
Will Latino logic will soon be at parity with jogger logic?
Ummm…..
Assuming the facts are as reported (and these days that truly is always a question) that has to be one of the worst injustices imaginable. Would be interesting to know what the jury was thinking.
My heart goes out to the victim’s family.
If I ever see his POS attorney here in Beaufort, I’ll “congratulate” him and say “What if that the victim were your father?”
BTW, Murdaugh’s partner in crime, another Beaufort attorney (Fleming), was disbarred for life and is “resting” for 5 years up in Columbia.
the problem on this one is south carolina’s law —
near the bottom of the article it states that all members must vote to convict him of murder —
one holdout negates it all —
All people of TBP must remember two words when prosecutors go bd. Those two words are Jury Nullification.
Will Latino logic will soon be at parity with jogger logic?
…Yes. We are all second-class citizens at this point. Some are more equal than others. How is this real life now? It’s mind-boggling to have to deal with this kind of shit everyday. I’d move to Iceland or some shit, but there are so many hot blonde babes here in Utah…. idk. What was I saying?
Anyhow. FUCK AMERICA!
You don’t take the law into your own hands. Now my mom, my family, we all have to suffer and just deal with it.”
What a fuggeeen maroon!
Because stealing a truck is definitely not a case of “taking the law into your own hands” and neither is “pulling out a gun” to prevent being arrested by police.
Idiot.
as the deceased a legal citizen? Just askin’ from curiosity.
He was a good boy. Mama’s apple pie. The 4th of July. He was a hooka!
Kojak
The owner needs to sue the estate of the dead fuckhead too.
They can pay the judgment in tamales.
Burritos.
“We would prefer that they call the police before taking that into your own hands,”
I’ve had property stolen with surveillance cameras recording the entire incident and the cops didn’t do one fucking thing! ZERO, NADA!!! I’m sure the report ended up in file 13.
“Looking around, they spotted the truck in a nearby lot at the same mall — with the apparent thieves sitting in it.”
If the Latino thief were any dumber he could be on the Supreme Court.
Would he be the “Wise Latino” ?
Wize Latinx?
The yellow-haired lady came down to the tavern
And looked up the stranger there
He bought her a drink and he gave her some money
He just didn’t seem to care
She followed him out as he saddled his stallion
And laughed as she grabbed at the bay
He shot her so quick, they had no time to warn her
She never heard anyone say
The yellow-haired lady was buried at sunset
The stranger went free, of course
For you can’t hang a man for killing a woman
Who’s trying to steal your horse
This is the tale of the red headed stranger
And if he should pass your way
Stay out of the path of the raging black stallion
And don’t lay a hand on the bay
you sing it better than willie —
i always thought this was an elmore james tune
according to the internet,which is known to be 100% accurate,elmore james did this much later than tampa red —
That is what should happen to all thieves. You steal, you die. Reduce the population of criminals…
Does Saudi Arabia have this thieving problem? If not, I wonder why. Would it have something to do with chopping your fucking thieving hand off when you are caught stealing the first time.
Fried Bean.
here’s a funny stolen truck at the mall story —
i used to have a guy working 4 me who was a complete airhead —
one night he came out of the mall & his truck had been stolen –while one cop was taking the report another one was driving around the mall –he came back & told the guy that he had found his truck on another side of the mall —
“oh yeah,i went in that entrance,sorry man” —
Good.
“The perp was my brother.”
There, fixed it.
“Potentially, under Texas law, he may have been acting within what the law says he got to do,” Alexandra Klein, an assistant law professor at San Antonio’s St. Mary’s University told NBC.
With all due respect to asst. prof. Klein, which is NONE, she needs to read Texas Penal Code §§ 9.41 – 9.44 et seq. Possibly then the dumb ass alleged law prof. might understand that the owner of the truck acted lawfully, although I have my doubts that she is capable of understanding unambiguous statutory law.
Praise for the owner of the truck, though one more pop for the broad would have been better. If she survives she ought to be tried for capital murder as her accomplice was killed in the commission of a felony. Public hanging should make a comeback, in a big way.
Like the spirit, but, wasteful.
Better to sell their organs to make restitution to victims.
I might be kidding. Might.
They should give a reward to citizens who kill a criminal attempting to commit more crime.
I’m sure a decent accountant could come up with a reasonable number in monies saved by not having to process a criminal through the legal system.
And from there, a percentage of the savings could be given as a reward for civic minded citizens.
Awesome!