Guest Post by Cpt_Obviuos
Recently I saw Stanley Kubrick’s masterpiece “2001: A Space Odyssey” again, as I have revisited it many times before in my life trying to figure out the damn thing (as, I suspect, others have also). “2001” is one of those rare films which no matter how often you watch it, you see something in it you had missed before, and you marvel at its brilliance; mind you, none of these movies have been made recently, I might add. (“Where have all the great filmmakers gone?” is a valid question. Surely, there are none alive currently who could even polish the shoes, much less wear them, of all-time legends like Kubrick, the reasoning of which I will talk about later.)
I also listened, once more, to Pink Floyd’s masterpiece “Dark Side of the Moon,” and was again struck by the complexity of its music and the philosophy in its lyrics. It is very hard to believe this album was made by musicians barely into their twenties; the scope of the album alone is way beyond their years. The maturity of the subject matter is also unusual for such young people. But it seemed like they knew exactly what they were doing; how could that be possible?
Because both of these works have made obvious impressions upon me, such that I would return to them in the way a penitent monk does the Stations of the Cross, and with almost as much reverence. What is it that attracted me?
I have never been a religious person. It seems to me that religions are man-made, but spirituality is God-given, and I do believe in God. I cannot fathom a God Whom would require His creations to follow a series of ultimately pointless rituals in order to be a True Believer, not One that also gave us free will. These genuflections always appeared to me to be simply another version of theatrics, and added nothing to the content of the material.
It was not until I read about Gnosticism that I started to get the feeling like I had completely missed a huge amount of what constitutes spirituality. If you are unfamiliar with the word “Gnosis,” it derives from Greek, and means “esoteric knowledge of spiritual truth held by the ancient Gnostics to be essential to salvation.” And who were the Gnostics?
Gnostics believed that human beings contain a piece of God (the highest good or a divine spark) within themselves, which has fallen from the immaterial world into the bodies of humans. All physical matter is subject to decay, rotting, and death, and those bodies and the material world created by an inferior being are therefore evil. Modern Judaism believes these sparks, or shards, are their divine duties to find and possess, as they are the “chosen ones,” and are therefore rightfully theirs under God and have been corrupted by lesser beings. This is why they are of the opinion the vast majority of us “useless eaters” must be purged so our sparks will be returned to those originally intended (never mind that fact that, if this is true, it had to be one of their own who caused said corruption).
Notwithstanding the beliefs of men, the goal of Gnosticism (“knowledge”) is the reunification of one’s spark with the godhead. “Messengers of Light” offered ways to achieve this unity, the most important being Jesus Christ.
Reuniting with the spark takes place in four stages: Craftsman, Warrior, Magician and Transformation. This chart helps show the progression:
In this diagram of Integral Psychology and individual states of consciousness, the three divisions represent the three psychological elements of mental, emotional, and physical. The outer level, shown as the darkest, represents the surface consciousness, relative obscurity, non-gnosis, and non-empathy (Self-Other) of “Ethnocentric”/Dualistic consciousness (“lower tier” in spiral dynamics jargon).
Moving inwards, or transforming the outer (through New Age, spiritual, and yogic exercises) leads to the intuition, sensitivity, and centeredness of the holistic/”upper tier”/post-materialistic level of individual and collective consciousness. Of course, progress is never this smooth or one-dimensional, as the different aspects follow their own lines of development. Here the subtle or inner or trans-personal is accessed, but generally filtered through gross reality and outer consciousness.
Finally there is the Esoteric/Gnostic stage, which incorporates profound gnosis, empathic, and metaphysical states. Here the subtle dimension is experienced in itself, through gnosis and occult insight. This represents a far more profound level of self-transformation and transcendence of ordinary consciousness. There is the realization of esoteric, and mystical dimensions, but not yet Realization proper. Realization comes only after all these elements are recognized as being one with God.
Which brings us back to “2001: A Space Odyssey.” Its dramatic opening, featuring a Sun-Moon-Earth alignment and total eclipse, leading to the final opening shot of the Sun above both Earth and Moon, clearly shows Kubrick’s awareness of the esoteric nature of Gnosticism, both in alignments and the Sun being the source of our existence here (as in Sun-God). Its immediate segue into the Dawn of Man, showing a starving species on its way to extinction until enlightened, is intended to portray how barbaric man truly is without the spark of God. The monolith which appears to the cavemen is pure Gnosticism: a repository of Man’s salvation, meant to transcend his Earthly boundaries.
Kubrick was absolutely aware of the monolith’s significance, as the entire movie is actually about it and its actions; the classic metaphor of the caveman throwing a bone into the sky which transforms into a satellite is Kubrick’s way of saying none of the intervening years was important; only the knowledge of the monolith is worth pursuing.
It should also be noted that Kubrick made the dimensions of the monolith exactly the same size as a movie screen. This means that, to him, the monolith is the movie, and that by seeing it, you are being transformed by the monolith too, because the whole movie is about the transformation of Man into a higher state. Kubrick was a brilliant man.
The final quarter of the movie, “Jupiter and Beyond the Infinite,” is the literal interpretation of Man’s transformation into the “Star Child,” one who has achieved the final Realization and is now a higher being, one of God’s children (remembering the Sun-God association). Kubrick’s intent with the structure of the movie was to show how we must leave our Earthly bodies — our imperfect, restraining bodies — in order to reach the Spirit which resides in us all. He wanted to also make it clear we can only reach this state through several stages of our spiritual journeys.
But it is the journey which completes us, which is the ultimate point.
Pink Floyd corroborated this with “Dark Side of the Moon,” firstly by hiring the artist called Hipgnosis to design the album cover, then by having the incoming beam of gray, formless light refracted into its individual colors as it passes through the prism. The prism could easily be equated with the monolith from “2001,” as that which is without knowledge is transformed by the individual, yet associated, spark of light into a being of totality.
The progression of songs on “Dark Side of the Moon” is also intended to be a representation of Man reaching out to God. Compositions like “The Great Gig in the Sky” and “Total Eclipse” are absolutely about Gnosticism and Man’s quest for understanding, while mired in the limitations of our Earthly bodies and the distractions which divert us from our true purpose. Again, not the sort of things twenty-somethings are wont to ruminate about; so from where (or whom) did they get these ideas?
There is no doubt they, as well as Stanley Kubrick, were versed in Gnosticism, and by using their God-given talents were able to convey their ideas, knowing that most of us would only see pretty pictures and catchy songs; but a few of us would take the seeds they were planting and let them grow, and someday understand.
Which is where I find myself now, as a fifty-something for whom the puzzle pieces of the past are finally coming together, and I realize — there’s that word again — that everything I have ever done has brought me to this point. If you wish to call it God’s Will, I would not argue.
Yet the messages which were left behind by men, like Pink Floyd and Stanley Kubrick, acting as monoliths, are the ones which led me to Him. Thus, while some are given to despicable depths of humanity, others are here to show us we are capable of heights without limits.
Thank God for these people.
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For most of us 2001 was the first introduction to the concept of AI and that AI could take on a mind of its own.
“Open the pod bay doors Hal – Hal”.
“I can’t do that, Dave.”
Something powerfully visceral about that exchange, something you’ll never forget.
Kubrick’s greatest film.
Stanley Kubrick and the Reality Stargate
https://secretsun.blogspot.com/2011/05/astrognostic-stanley-kubrick-and.html
“Gnostic scholar Jay Weidner (http://jayweidner.com/) has been making the rounds with a new film series called Kubrick’s Odyssey. It’s Weidner’s contention that Stanley Kubrick was enlisted to help manufacture film and photography for a simulation of an Apollo 11 mission for public consumption, which would keep the real mission secret.”
More from this blog (https://secretsun.blogspot.com/) on this TBP article’s subject:
https://secretsun.blogspot.com/search?q=2001+kubrick
. http://jayweidner.com/:
“Whatever ideas are the most suppressed are most likely to be the closest to the truth.”
~ Weidner’s First Law of the Universe
“If a picture is worth a thousand words then a symbol is worth a thousand pictures.”
~ Weidner’s Second Law of the Universe
“The only people who call conspiracies ‘theories’ are the conspirators.”
~ Weidner’s Third Law of the Universe
eat the bugs dave.
i can’t do that hal.
“When you understand that the religion/mental illness of Modern and Postmodern Leftism is a particular strain of Gnosticism, most of their stances are readily comprehensible.
These Gnostics see Being itself as a prison (this is why it’s a mental illness), and they, as Gnostics, are the only ones who know we’re in that prison. Everyone else is an NPC and a guard (so now, Agent Smith in The Matrix makes sense).”
Your delusional and have it totally backward, just like CNN . Gnosticism is based on personal experience. It’s, trust what your senses and life experience has taught you, not what is propagated by the authorities. Your a perfect example of what a little knowledge leads to. Delusion.
Which part of the author’s statement
do you not understand?
That is an extreme anti-Christian viewpoint.
I don’t believe everything every Gnostic has ever said. But can you deny that physical matter as in physical body is subject to decay, rot, and death. Sounds like the Bible quote ashes to ashes dust to dust. Your logic and reasoning is very lacking. See several more hours of CNN.
What verse in the Bible says “ashes to ashes?”
genesis 3:19 … ok dust
It sure is.
Actually, Anonymous has it right when he states “These Gnostics see Being itself as a prison . . . .” Read “The Gnostic Gospels” by Elaine Pagels, who is an authority on “The Nag Hammadi Library”, or “The Secret History of the Gnostics” by Andrew Phillip Smith. It is you who is “a perfect example of what a little knowledge leads to.”
My bad.
The truth has always been persecuted by the priest craft as they wish to remain in control. Those who have had no experience in God always belittle those who have had experiences in God. It’s the same way that main stream news belittles alternative news. You too are delusional. For penance, I recommend several hours of CNN. It’s clearly where you belong.
Am I writing to a bot name AKJOHN? My point it that Anonymous correctly stated the philosophy of Gnosticism, as we understand it today. Your talk of “priest craft”, “experiences in God”, and “penance” are philosophical sophistry (read bullshit). It paints you as a delusional “true believer”, but does not address the argument. Put down the Boone’s Farm, put out your reefer, and think.
Why? Nothing will change.
Your understanding of it is wrong. Religion has always attacked anything that doesn’t give them authority. This includes Gnosticism. This is very comparable to what mainstream news does to alternative media. Why are you here? If you want main stream views go to CNN. You are the Bot. I go to where the truth takes me. That’s why I ma here. My 45 yeas of doing Prayer, contemplation, and studying the spiritual works give me my view. Not mainstream media. You have showed me that you get all your Gnostic information from Google. Who is the main Saint of Gnostics? What spiritual teaching did Gnosticism come from? Can you answer those two very simple questions? I doubt it. You are the one who is misinformed.
You are clueless.
After 45 years you haven’t achieved the humility to discard the “perfection” false idol, for the Earthly world.
Knowledge does not always lead to wisdom.
Pagels is very good, and a great place to start. The closer you get to gnosis you’ll realize that it is the goal of agnostics to suppress awareness (knowledge, gnosis). It undermines their “control” over minds and thought. It’s why religions fight each other for control of the masses, why they create massive buildings to distract the masses from true creation.
Native American peoples have an approach very close to gnosticism. Respect and appreciate what our creator has done.
Cool, so you strawman “opponent” are the agnostics.
Any mention of Christianity was carfully avoided…
And YOU’RE somewhat illiterate.
Of course, YOU’RE immune, right?
The spiritual life is what I have read on extensively and practiced for over 40 years. So, in this category I am immune. In others of course not.
So, in your subjective or objective opinion?
How can you know you are immune? Self referentially?
Do the delusional know they are deluded? Do the crazy know they are crazy?
Not saying you are, but IMO that it is something you should contemplate a bit more than it appears you have.
There are many people on TBP that have expertise in many subjects. This one is mine. No one is perfect of course. On this topic, I am just way more right is how I look at it.
Ok Dr. Fauci. You’re the science.
Looks like Mr Anonymous is using vote bots to reinforce his argument.
How many more days are you going to carry on with your temper tantrum about people posting anonymously? Grow up.
Looks like?
In what way? Based on what?
Gnostic (n.)
1580s, “believer in a mystical religious doctrine of spiritual knowledge,” from Late Latin Gnosticus “a Gnostic,” from Late Greek Gnōstikos, noun use of adjective gnōstikos “knowing, able to discern, good at knowing,” from gnōstos “known, to be known,” from gignōskein “to learn, to come to know,” from PIE root *gno- “to know.”
Source:
https://www.etymonline.com/word/gnostic
Sounds good to me.
LOL, no Gnostics existed before 1580. {/facepalm}
Brilliant post Cap. As it is something to think about I can’t comment. But I may listen to Pink Floyd and watch 2001.
Well done, especially the monolith/movie screen connection, never saw that before.
The novel states that the relative dimensions of the monolith are the squares of the first 3 numbers – i.e. 1:4:9.
Actually, the novel is a very good read and delves into some of the mysteries of the monolith, what it represents and why it appears; i.e. it does a better job than the movie possibly can in revealing its meaning and purpose. It appears at the dawn of civilization to metamorphise instinctual animals into a form that can conceptualize and create, forming the first stage of evolution from common life form to a higher thinking and conscience being. The 2nd monolith was buried on the moon, purposely, to be discovered once that very same life form had advanced technologically enough to break the bounds of his own planet, indicating the completion of the 2nd evolutionary stage. Now man is ready for the 3rd and final stage, his encounter and transformance with/into a being so advanced that it requires no physical form; but still requires a host (a conscience) to continue its omnipotent existence.
But the real mystery is – Did the supreme being or entity use HAL to do the dirty work of testing Dave and Frank to see if either was worthy? (Dave passes the test it seems)
At almost every instant you are likely to experience the feeling about a given postulate: “It is so.”
Look for that feeling, and when it arises remind yourself: “It may not be so.” Be willing to act based on your judgment as to whether something is more likely to be true or to be not true; but do not believe that it is either true or not true.
In this way, belief is unnecessary to action.
Be especially wary of the feeling of belief at times when you have a thought and then do not contradict it. Simply the experience of non-contradiction suggests to the belief program that it energize itself. Thus, you must guard against the tendency to believe any thought you generate. This can best be done by remembering to say to yourself (but not in words) “It may not be so” in response to every thought.
Never seen it. I think I should.
You will never be able to forget it once you do. It’s considered one of the best movies ever made for a reason!
one of the best movies ever made
one of my favs, Greed, original was 24 hours of film, silent! Truly an excellent piece of cinematography, this from a guy that has ALWAYS despised TeeVee!
That and Donnie Darko, see something new every time!
Peace, L.
I just checked and the movie was released in 1968 so I guess that means not all of you saw it when it first came out, it was a “must see” movie at the time.
See it. I don’t think it is as good as many do, but it is good.
2010 was not bad either, but not 2001 level.
2061 book was OK.
Read the book 3001. I really enjoyed that. They find Frank.
It’s also a good one to watch with the kids.
I thought the book was much better than the movie since it explained more.
Excellent. I was reading and thinking about the Gnostics recently. The one thing you left out is Gnosticism is all about personal experience. It seeks the esoteric knowledge through personal experience. While orthodox religions seeks exoteric knowledge though books. I am a very firm believer in personal experience. Orthodox religion teaches experiences do not count. Which to me is like saying do not trust what your eyes see, your ears hear, etc.. I would call that absolutely ridiculous.
Here are a few basic Gnostic beliefs.
Satan is the head of the planet earth hierarchy.
Jehovah of the old testament is Satan.
Earth is hell.
The Word is Sound. Singing and chanting is how we get back to God.
The writing of John and Paul is pure Gnosticism.
I finally studied the chart. It has many of the levels of Consciousness we can attain on our way home to God. Which is the Physical, Astral/emotional, Mental- many aspects. Center of chart has absolute reality which is Soul, the I am. Most refer to this as self realization. There are even higher levels of Consciousness as Spiritual Realization, and God Realization. We never become one with God as that would mean we become God. These higher levels of Consciousness are us getting in harmony to a higher degree with the holy spirit. This is in perfect agreement with the teaching of Jesus.
Yeah, I’ll buy that for a dollar. What’s the weather like on planet AKJOHN?
How is it not in agreement. Did Jesus not teach the holy spirit? You are arguing just to argue. Make a point. Like I said before. Not all things in Gnosticism is 100% perfect. But this point is. How about Satan running plane. earth. Did Satan not offer planet earth to Jesus?
Those with a spiritual bent might wish to read up on Taoism and Zen. The latter, a school of Mahayana Buddhism, arose in China as Chán (derived from the Sanskrit dhyana (meditation) and is best known by its Japanese name Zen. It incorporated elements of Taoism. Both are non-theistic, more aimed at praxis rather than theory. I became acquainted with them at age 15 (62 years ago) and as a result majored in Asian Studies and took up practice at 22. Never stopped. It’s been very rewarding to say the least.
And Christianity is not aimed at praxis?
Don’t believe I implied that. Nevertheless, “metaphysics” might have been a better choice than “theory”.
Stanley Kubrick and the Reality Stargate
https://secretsun.blogspot.com/2011/05/astrognostic-stanley-kubrick-and.html
“Gnostic scholar Jay Weidner (http://jayweidner.com/) has been making the rounds with a new film series called Kubrick’s Odyssey. It’s Weidner’s contention that Stanley Kubrick was enlisted to help manufacture film and photography for a simulation of an Apollo 11 mission for public consumption, which would keep the real mission secret.”
More from this blog (https://secretsun.blogspot.com/) on this TBP article’s subject:
https://secretsun.blogspot.com/search?q=2001+kubrick
. http://jayweidner.com/:
“Whatever ideas are the most suppressed are most likely to be the closest to the truth.”
~ Weidner’s First Law of the Universe
“If a picture is worth a thousand words then a symbol is worth a thousand pictures.”
~ Weidner’s Second Law of the Universe
“The only people who call conspiracies ‘theories’ are the conspirators.”
~ Weidner’s Third Law of the Universe
Same place as most of the great cooks. They never developed.
When you learn from the basics and have little to work with, you become creative and talented. Greatness develops, it is inspired, but it is never taught.
When you can take a course on “how to” and get a piece of paper that says you can according to an “authority”, you copy and replicate what you were taught. Little impetus for creativity and thinking outside the box, so everybody does the same thing.
All traditional artist have to learn the basics of painting and drawing.
Color, value, ideas about design, proportion; the “craft” of painting.
Once these fundamentals are mastered, that is only the bare beginning.
Art comes from a different place than craftsmanship. It is the artist
trying to say something profound and meaningful in a language everyone
on earth can understand if they are open to it. Artists are story tellers
and philosophers trying to communicate something about being human.
Good artists communicate with ease, bad artists garble the message.
Think of Van Gogh. He had meager craftsmanship but forced his vision
out anyway and is now considered on of greatest. Vermeer was a genius
craftsman so his brilliance is recognized instantly by everyone. And some
“artists” are simple charlatans hoping to con people with nothing but
shallow craftmanship. Those hacks are the easiest to spot. Great art doesn’t
need an explanation, it IS the explanation of it’s greatness.
Beauty is not subjective in my opinion lol , no seriously, as you point out understanding the golden ratio and all , it actually ends up back at a recognition of the fibonacci sequence / flowers , shells and such/not only how they are proportioned but more importantly why …….
That was extremely well put but I wouldn’t say “everybody” does the same thing . Some of us obviously have escaped and embody the overall spirit of your comment .There seems to me anyway to be knowledge ( the ability to rattle off what seem to be all the right answers ) and then there is “understanding “which may transcend any academic description . Hell , a person could well have intimate understanding of concepts and yet no ability to convince people via his words that he knows anything at all . Ever feel like that with people ?
The urge by some to create. explain, and manifest the infinite is universal in all societies.
Art is just another language, like music to do the same. The cave paintings in Lascaux and Altamira were old artists wonderfully telling their story. Millions of us understand well
30,000 years later. What a language! I am absolutely certain music accompanied
the artists as they worked in those caves. I ALWAYS listen to music while I paint.
Here is a very beautiful Gnostic chant I found. It’s more a song.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=gnostic+chant&view=detail&mid=412073703B748A058E12412073703B748A058E12&FORM=VIRE
I have found the main tools for reaching a greater understanding of God is Prayer, Meditation, and Contemplation. My preferred tool is contemplation, I usually start with a chant. Here is my favorite. The HU. The sound in all sounds, the root word for HUman. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=hu+chant+20+minutes&docid=603489458273258718&mid=965209A57135CBCAFCE6965209A57135CBCAFCE6&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
Down voting the most sacred name of God. I know who your God is.
So what Satan worshiping practices do you down voters use? The ones I mentioned above are the true spiritual practices from every spiritual path on the planet.
You equate people who down vote you with worshiping Satan.
It’s not the anonymous posters who are ruining this site. It’s immature, whiny little punks like you.
Maybe what he practices has been very good for him and he wants to share it with anyone he can ?Which is actually an act of love towards his fellow man . I’m sure a lot of what I consider my personal spiritual knowledge and practices(somwhat different though they are from his ) you would scoff at as well , even though they too have been very good for me. I’m just getting better , kinder ,more patient , more grounded in reality , less easily rattled or brought down into a lower emotional state by as the” button pusher”s the older I get . I look around and for the most part it seems most people are getting worse with age in all of these respects , not all but most . I’m sure you , like me have encountered that rare old person who embodies the kind of grace and light that is exceptional ? And uh , don’t think it means I wont kick your ass if I have to . I just wont suffer any ptsd for having done it because I did what I needed to do , it wasnt an emotional reaction based on resentment or pride . lol .
Nice angles.
These lessons are something!
I sometimes think many religions were created as teaching examples,which were intended to bring novitiates through the concepts as written, and ultimately deliver their understanding to the allegorical truths the lessons were intended to impart.
What seems to repeatedly happen, is each attempt to teach the masses a sense of personal responsiblity through such religious allegory, is the people seem to ALWAYS end up worshipping, fighting and dying over the “tenth of the dill” in the allegory instead of learning and applying the lessons.
What if sentient, metacognitive intelligence is itself artifice? To contrive a lightbulb from nature’s stardust, or from a deity’s creation, as most see it?
CO, you are not wrong that Hollywood continually preaches a hidden message of a decidedly Gnostic flavoring. Star Wars for example is just repackaged gnostic teachings with a sci-fi veneer.
Where we diverge however is in the belief that such messages are somehow beneficial, as this is precisely the spiritual philosophy that the luciferian elite have used to keep mankind in bondage since Babel. These myriad religious philosophies – which Gnosticism surely is – all ultimately teach that spiritual growth and “enlightenment” (whatever that means) can come from through your own hand; that you can ascend to godhood/your “higher self” through earthly knowledge. How is Gnosticism any different than Freemasonry – or any other Mystery religion for that matter?
You simply can not sidestep the fact that he declared himself to be the Son of God. As C.S Lewis quite eloquently states in his magnum opus, Mere Christianity, either Christ is a lunatic, a liar, or He is our Lord. Gnosticism is fundamentally a works based religion and is in total opposition to the message that Jesus Christ preached. He was not a messenger of light, an enlightened teacher, or a moral philosopher. As Christ himself makes perfectly clear in Mark 14:61-62, he is the Son of God – the Triune Godhead in existence from the very beginning of time:
https://archive.org/details/MereChristianityCSL/page/n1/mode/2up
I don’t know what your faith journey has looked like, but if you have not read Lewis’ work I highly recommend it to get a better understanding of what Christ actually said about himself.
Your lack of understanding of Gnosticism is just like all your articles, lacking in logic and reasoning. Gnosticism is all about personal experience. That means not believing everything the supposed authorities propagandize with. Jesus Christ was one of the greatest Gnostic’s ever. Christianity is based on his personal experiences. Paul and John were also Gnostic’s that modern Christianity is based on. Gnosticism taught the holy spirit, just like Jesus. We can never be one with God. But we can be one with the holy spirit.
Nah blasphemer, I understand you perfectly well.
Go peddle your garbage to someone deluded enough to fall for your hyper emotional claptrap.
You just don’t get it. The attack on Gnosticism is just like the attack of mainstream media on alternative media. It is based on propaganda and hearsay. Not on common sense things like logic, reasoning, and personal experience. You have looked into the mirror of God and seen your true self. You have been found lacking.
I’m not quite sure what to expect from saying this, but I can’t not say it…
This is itself both a false and contradictory statement.
1 John 5:7 KJB… “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
God is the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is God. Christ is the Word. The Word is God. Christ is God. The 3 are 1.
John 1:1-5 KJB… “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.”
Without comprehending the above, you are in darkness. The light you see is not God, it is the false light.
2 Corinthians 11:14 KJB… “And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.”
You’ve been blinded by the false light AKJohn. You need salvation in Christ alone.
2 Corinthians 4:3-4 KJB… “But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”
Lucifer is a counterfeiter. His light is made to deceive people into believing that he is God. Many say the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to convince the world that he didn’t exist. That’s incorrect; his greatest trick was to convince the world that he is God.
We cannot be “one” with God though His Spirit dwells within us.
1 Corinthians 6:19-20 KJB… “What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.”
Trust in the Lords work on our behalf.
Romans 5:8 KJB… “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”
So you believe you can be one with God. Which means become God. This is a false teaching. You will never learn this through the reading of any book. Only through personal experience. I experienced myself as the holy spirit, where I was was pure light and sound. Never for one second did I think. Wow I am god. My thought was. This is the real me. Soul. A divine spark of God. You do a good quote. But your knowledge of God and what it means is non existent.
Yes the three are one. But God came first and then the Word/holy spirit, and then Christ entered it. I understand it way more than you because I experienced it. I can say there is not a day that I have not experienced it.
The three are one. But not exactly the same. Otherwise it would be called God, God, and God. The difference in the three is subtle.
God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. This new age path you are on will kill you eternally. God will allow that.
2 Thessalonians 2:8-10 KJB… “And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.”
Truth is not found in your experiences as your experiences are filtered through the lens of sinful flesh. Plus, we have the master deceiver to deal with who is actively working to fool you on the experiential level: power, signs and lying wonders. Eternal truth is found in the book God wrote and nowhere else on earth. It’s up to you whether or not you decide to pursue it. Please, don’t waste your time telling me otherwise.
Yes, Gnosticism is filled with references to the Kabbala, or “Tree of Life.”
Such as, a great alchemical significance is the number of ‘threes’ that are in the film. In alchemy the process for the unfoldment of the soul, that is so necessary to completing the Great Work, is a three-fold process. These processes are filled with deep mystery.
The best description of this process is that it is like a caduceus with its two writhing snakes on each side of a central rod. This is also represented by the Kabbala, or the Tree of Life. The Tree of Life has three main pillars. In order to pass from one realm, or aspect, of the Kabbala one must use one of these three central pillars, or processes.
If one adds up the numbers 2001 ( 2 + 0 + 0 + 1 ) the sum is three. There are three words in the title after the 2001. There is an eclipse of three celestial bodies at the beginning of the film. There are three eclipses in the film. There are three conscious entities aboard the Discovery spacecraft and there are three unconscious entities, the men who are in hibernation. Bowman goes through three stages of transformation in his life at the end of the film. The ‘World Riddle’ theme also plays three times.
There are four great realms within the Tree of Life. Kubrick reflects these realms with each of the four chapters in 2001. The first is the earthly realm, represented by Malkuth, which is the sephireh located at the very bottom of the Tree of Life. This is the realm of the kingdom, or of mankind. The second realm up is that of the moon, or the sephireh Yesod. The third realm is that of the sun, or the sephireh named Tiperoth, and the final realm of the Tree of Life is that of the ultimate being or consciousness, represented by the sephireh named Kether.
The third chapter of “2001,” which is about the mission to Jupiter, is a little more tricky. In order to see the Kabbalic significance of this sequence it is important to understand that in the original script, by Arthur C. Clarke and Kubrick, the space craft Discovery was heading towards the planet Saturn, and not Jupiter.
Kubrick was forced to switch to Jupiter because the rings of Saturn proved too difficult; the Special Effects department couldn’t make them realistic enough. In the original script (and the book) the planet was Saturn. This is very important because in the Kabbala, one can switch places between the Sun, or Tiperoth, and Saturn. In other words Saturn can be used as a symbolic representation of the Sun. Is it a coincidence that this third chapter, which was originally intended to be about a voyage to Saturn, is also about the third realm of the Kabbala: Tiperoth? When one considers this switch is allowed in the rules of the Kabbala this sequence comes to represent the third realm of the Tree of Life.
While I most certainly agree that Kabbala is not Biblical, it is still essential to understand that numerology is well-represented in the Bible as well. The Holy Trinity, for example. Using both of these concepts has helped me get closer to God, which is the utmost importance — even if it means taking into account alternative viewpoints.
Like Shakespeare (supposedly) wrote, “More things in Heaven and Earth than in your philosophy.”
We must consider all details, if God is indeed in them.
Agreed with the sentiment here, but better to read Gods word directly rather than another’s opinion of it. If one wants knowledge it is readily available. Romans 1-8 is the most important place to begin as these chapters detail what the death, burial and resurrection accomplished for us.
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I would rather…
1 Corinthians 2:1-2 KJB… “And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.”
Christ; the source of all wisdom.
Amen Pastor.
I don’t agree with all of Lewis’ theology, but he does answer many of the common questions that unbelievers have even after reading Holy Scripture – such as the scurrilous claim that Christ was simply a moral philosopher of good character.
Obviously there is no substitute for God’s Word, but what’s a preachers job if not to teach that Word?
Yes. Never trust what your eyes see and your ears hear, and never trust in t heart. That’s pure satanism. That’s exactly what main stream news tells us everyday, and that has been the teaching of orthodox religions forever. The Spiritual viewpoint of reaping what you sow, and loving thy neighbor has never been popular. This is what Jesus was crucified for. The more down votes I get. The more right I know I am. Yes. Christ is the source of all wisdom. That’s Christ as the Holy Spirit. Not as the man Jesus. You love to quote. Paul. All of his teaching come from personal experience. He was a 100% Gnostic.
All of Paul’s knowledge came by revelation of God.
Galatians 1:11-12 KJB… “But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.”
What is revelation but personal experience. Things revealed to you through the holy spirit. What did Paul mean when he said I am in Christ? He meant that he traveled out of the body in Soul form. He personally experienced it. This was a common Gnostic practice to travel via Soul to learn the spiritual truths.
There is a whole wiki available….
The Monolith wiki suggests the dimensions are 1:4:9….
All the monoliths, though they vary greatly in size, were fashioned to the exact proportions of 1:4:9, the squares of the integers 1, 2, and 3. This precise measurement ruled out any naturally occurring phenomena, and because the first of the monoliths was placed more than 3 million years ago, humans could not possibly have made them.
The monolith page
https://2001.fandom.com/wiki/Monolith
home page
https://2001.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page
The film is the monolith.
In a secret that seems to never have been noticed by many, the monolith in the film has the same exact dimensions as the Cinerama movie screen on which 2001 was projected in 1968. This can only be seen if one sees the film in its wide-screen format.
Completely hidden, from critic and fan alike, is the fact that Kubrick consciously designed his film to be the monolith, the stone that transforms. Like the monolith, the film projects images into our heads that make us consider wider possibilities and ideas. Like the monolith, the film ultimately presents an initiation, not just of the actor on the screen, but also of the audience viewing the film.
That is Kubrick’s ultimate trick. He slyly shows that he knows what he is doing at every step in the process. The monolith and the movie are the same thing.
Just pedantic, but how thick was the screen?
About yea thick, I think.
Don’t Bogart the joint my friend
Gnosticism is the perfect belief system for the technocracy.
That you Brian?
Now stalking by one of the multiples?
Stalking? Don’t flatter yourself. You are not that important.
But it is Brian/anon a mous, right?
I am curious why you would change your name, again.
See my above posts. You have it exactly backwards. It’s based on abstract concepts like logic, reasoning, and personal experience. How barbaric.
Yes, that’s what I mean- also knowledge, as in authority, expert, experimentation, models. A technician.
Our benevolent Admin wrote an excellent piece about Dark Side of the Moon almost 5 years ago and was one of the first glimpses I had of his writing abilities. He reposted it in March, marking the 50th anniversary (my, where have all the years gone?) of the album. It is worth another read or if you are new, an initial read
Actually, young people were deep thinkers and probably better read back then. No internet
Talking about him doing something is like talking about Elon M. as he’d be a business man. He was in the club you ain’t in! Hint in plain sight, the name. Cube, brick. Q, mason. Much to find, I dive too, but all has to be taken with a grain of salt, or even turned 180.
Here was my take several years ago:
Slightly askew … but the Star Child that has been sent toward Earth at the end of 2001 ASO looks surprisingly like the child of Melinda Dillon’s character in Close Encounters of the 3d Kind … noticed it the first time I saw CE3K … somehow it provided a link between the 2 movies in my brain …
Satan’s lie to Eve in Genesis was man shall be as God through knowledge. that is gnosticism. the odysseys of 2001 and 911 are alchemy. Kubricks’ space odessy obelisk dimensions match ‘smart’phones. bill gates and windows.
Hiltonshown in Kubrick’s 2001 movie and Millenium Hilton at 911 site. careful of what you believe.
John 8:32 .
Just watch Kubrick’s “A Clockwork Orange” again
The Sun and Moon references abound in “A Clockwork Orange,” such as in the title (which is a reference to the Sun itself), of the song “Ode to the Sun” on its soundtrack, as well as sculptures of the Sun King and other Solar symbols.
Kubrick even threw out a nudge-nudge to those in the know when the drunkard who Alex and the gang beats up in the beginning talks about “Men on the Moon!” and people whizzing around the Earth.
He could not help himself; he had to throw in-joke references in all his movies after “2001,” knowing that most of us would only get them later. And he was obsessed with Kabbala and Masonry, for evident reasons.
Pink Floyds lyrics were beyond their years as they were written by think tank social engineers, most likely based in the Tavistock institute. Isn’t the f*cking pyramid on the album cover a big enough give away. All of corporate funded popular culture is designed to mold the minds of the masses, what else do you suppose executive producers do? Syd Barrett became wise to the game being played and was driven crazy by the resulting paranoia.
“You reached for the secret too soon, you cried for the moon
Shine on you crazy diamond
Threatened by shadows at night, and exposed in the light
Shine on you crazy diamond”
Rituals are not pointless, their purpose is to reinforce beliefs and social conformity. See ‘Clap for Carers’ in the UK at the beginning of the pandemic for example. A weekly ritual where the entire country worshipped the national health service workers with applause, this went on for months, by the end of it all participants were covidian believers.
Monoliths or obelisks have symbolic meaning in the occult religions. These also mysteriously appeared during the pandemic, as widely reported by the mainstream media.
Don’t get me started on Kubrick..
You get it, Mongo, as usual. I like your replies, keep ’em comin’.
My whole intent with this article was to show just how insidious satanism has become; it is in everything which is promoted by the media. Our media, our entertainment, our so-called religions: all of them have been seized by the hands of the Enemy.
I wanted to show those who might not know the secret symbology which pervades everything we see and do, and how it pertained to two of the most famous Pop Culture icons, for example. The people who use these arcane symbols and alchemy are most certainly not Godly — which is why the last line of my article is, “Thank God for these people.” They have shown to me, through their hidden actions, that their master is not mine, and I hope this opened up some eyes of sleepers.
We have to understand our Enemy in order to defeat him.
Good one, C.O., good one. You almost had me for a minute.
Who doesn’t love those “Columbo” moments, Doug? 😀
“Gnosis” and “Hip-gnosis” were clues that I hoped others would follow. Which people like you did.
I sensed you were up to something but it’s good to have the actual confirmation. We’ll done 😉👍
Stucky used to post things like that just to start a shitstorm. I miss those posts
Did you not spot the game being played by “The Negation of the Real”, by Dr. James Lindsay, that you covered a few months back. Through out his lecture he makes covert occult hand signals, and he is using all of the same techniques of ‘gnostic wizardry’ as he is describing them, luring his viewers into the ultimate self refencing wizards circle. It’s very cleverly done and very very sneaky.
I am not convinced that the hidden powers are that into their occult religion, I suspect it to be a mask they hide behind to obscure who they are and what they are up to. After all if you’re trying to destroy Christian culture, a key goal of socialism, then why not adopt the persona of Satan himself. I may have this wrong and socialism really is the product of Satanism, though I keep an open mind to both possibilities.
Where have all the good Country, Rock & Roll songs gone? Where have all the good math and science teachers gone? Where have all the good public schools gone? Where have all the good journalist gone? What has happened to TV? What has happened to the Military? What has happened to Tradesmen? What has happened to retail stores in malls and urban areas? What has happened to the Universities and the Medical Community? What has happened to the Conservative political party of America? What has happened to our sweet young women and young men with great potential?
Reading the comments generated by article about religious beliefs must be what is was like long ago listening to people argue about how many angels could dance on the head of a pin. Good article pick Administrator. Religious articles draw out the fanatics and even some crazies. And that’s entertainment.
And occasionally elucidation!