Hiroshima, Nagasaki Bombings Were Needless, Said World War II’s Top US Military Leaders

Authored by Brian McGlinchey via starkrealities.substack.com

The anniversaries of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki present an opportunity to demolish a cornerstone myth of American history — that those twin acts of mass civilian slaughter were necessary to bring about Japan’s surrender, and spare a half-million US soldiers who’d have otherwise died in a military conquest of the empire’s home islands.

Those who attack this mythology are often reflexively dismissed as unpatriotic, ill-informed or both. However, the most compelling witnesses against the conventional wisdom were patriots with a unique grasp on the state of affairs in August 1945 — America’s senior military leaders of World War II.

Let’s first hear what they had to say, and then examine key facts that led them to their little-publicized convictions:

  • General Dwight Eisenhower on learning of the planned bombings: “I had been conscious of a feeling of depression and voiced to [Secretary of War Stimson] my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives. It was my belief that Japan was, at that very moment, seeking some way to surrender with a minimum loss of ‘face’.”
  • Admiral William Leahy, Truman’s Chief of Staff: “The use of this barbarous weapon…was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional weapons.”
  • Major General Curtis LeMay, 21st Bomber Command: “The war would have been over in two weeks without the Russians entering and without the atomic bomb…The atomic bomb had nothing to do with the end of the war at all.”
  • General Hap Arnold, US Army Air Forces: “The Japanese position was hopeless even before the first atomic bomb fell, because the Japanese had lost control of their own air.” “It always appeared to us that, atomic bomb or no atomic bomb, the Japanese were already on the verge of collapse.”
  • Ralph Bird, Under Secretary of the Navy: “The Japanese were ready for peace, and they already had approached the Russians and the Swiss…In my opinion, the Japanese war was really won before we ever used the atom bomb.”
  • Brigadier General Carter Clarke, military intelligence officer who prepared summaries of intercepted cables for Truman: “When we didn’t need to do it, and we knew we didn’t need to do it…we used [Hiroshima and Nagasaki] as an experiment for two atomic bombs. Many other high-level military officers concurred.”
  • Fleet Admiral Chester Nimitz, Pacific Fleet commander: “The use of atomic bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender.”
Full of midget submarines, a drydock in the port city of Kure, Japan lies in ruins

Putting out feelers through third-party diplomatic channels, the Japanese were seeking to end the war weeks before the atomic bombings on August 6 and 9, 1945. Japan’s navy and air forces were decimated, and its homeland subjected to a sea blockade and allied bombing carried out against little resistance.

The Americans knew of Japan’s intent to surrender, having intercepted a July 12 cable from Japanese Foreign Minister Shigenori Togo, informing Japanese ambassador to Russia Naotake Sato that “we are now secretly giving consideration to the termination of the war because of the pressing situation which confronts Japan both at home and abroad.”

Togo told Sato to “sound [Russian diplomat Vyacheslav Molotov] out on the extent to which it is possible to make use of Russia in ending the war.” Togo initially told Sato to obscure Japan’s interest in using Russia to end the war, but just hours later, he withdrew that instruction, saying it would be “suitable to make clear to the Russians our general attitude on ending the war”— to include Japan’s having “absolutely no idea of annexing or holding the territories which she occupied during the war.”

An excerpt from a July 12, 1945 US War Department summary of an intercepted cable from Japanese Foreign Minister Shigenori Togo to his ambassador to Russia

Japan’s central concern was the retention of its emperor, Hirohito, who was considered a demigod. Even knowing this — and with many US officials feeling the retention of the emperor could help Japanese society through its postwar transition —the Truman administration continued issuing demands for unconditional surrender, offering no assurance that the emperor would be spared humiliation or worse.

In a July 2 memorandum, Secretary of War Henry Stimson drafted a terms-of-surrender proclamation to be issued at the conclusion of that month’s Potsdam Conference. He advised Truman that, “if…we should add that we do not exclude a constitutional monarchy under her present dynasty, it would substantially add to the chances of acceptance.”

Truman and Secretary of State James Byrnes, however, continued rejecting recommendations to give assurances about the emperor. The final Potsdam Declaration, issued July 26, omitted Stimson’s recommended language, sternly declaring, “Following are our terms. We will not deviate from them.”

One of those terms could reasonably be interpreted as jeopardizing the emperor: “There must be eliminated for all time the authority and influence of those who have deceived and misled the people of Japan into embarking on world conquest.”

Japanese emperor Hirohito reigned from 1926 to 1989  

At the same time the United States was preparing to deploy its formidable new weapons, the Soviet Union was moving armies from the European front to northeast Asia.

In May, Stalin told the US ambassador that Soviet forces should be positioned to attack the Japanese in Manchuria by August 8. In July, Truman predicted the impact of the Soviets opening a new front. In a diary entry made during the Potsdam Conference, he wrote that Stalin assured him “he’ll be in the Jap War on August 15th. Fini Japs when that comes about.”

Right on Stalin’s original schedule, the Soviet Union declared war on Japan two days after the August 6 bombing of Hiroshima. That same day — August 8 — Emperor Hirohito told the country’s civilian leaders that he still wanted to pursue a negotiated surrender that would preserve his reign.

On August 9, Soviet attacks commenced on three frontsNews of Stalin’s invasion of Manchuria prompted Hirohito to call a new meeting to discuss surrender — at 10 am, one hour before the strike on Nagasaki. The final surrender decision came on August 10.

Three-year old Shinichi Tetsutani, burned as he was riding this tricycle when the atomic bomb hit Hiroshima, died a painful death that night (Hiroki Kobayashi/National Geographic)

The Soviet timeline makes the atomic bombings all the more troubling: One would think a US government that’s appropriately hesitant to incinerate and irradiate hundreds of thousands of civilians would want to first see how a Soviet declaration of war affected Japan’s calculus.

As it turns out, the Japanese surrender indeed appears to have been prompted by the Soviet entry into the war on Japan — not by the atomic bombs. “The Japanese leadership never had photo or video evidence of the atomic blast and considered the destruction of Hiroshima to be similar to the dozens of conventional strikes Japan had already suffered,” wrote Josiah Lippincott at The American Conservative.

Sadly, the evidence points to a US government determined to drop atomic bombs on Japanese cities as an end in itself, to such an extent that it not only ignored Japan’s interest in surrender, but worked to ensure that surrender was delayed until after upwards of 210,000 people — disproportionately women, children and elderly — were killed in the two cities.

Make no mistake: This was a deliberate targeting of civilian populations. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were chosen because they were pristine, and could thus fully showcase the bombs’ power. Hiroshima was home to a small military headquarters, but the fact that both cities had gone untouched by a strategic bombing campaign that began 14 months earlier certifies their military and industrial insignificance.

“The Japanese were ready to surrender and it wasn’t necessary to hit them with that awful thing,” Eisenhower would later say. “I hated to see our country be the first to use such a weapon.”

According to his pilot, General Douglas MacArthur, commander of US Army Forces Pacific, was “appalled and depressed by this Frankenstein monster.”

“When I asked General MacArthur about the decision to drop the bomb,” wrote journalist Norman Cousins, “I was surprised to learn he had not even been consulted…He saw no military justification for the dropping of the bomb. The war might have ended weeks earlier, he said, if the United States had agreed, as it later did anyway, to the retention of the institution of the emperor.”

What then, was the purpose of devastating Hiroshima and Nagasaki with atomic bombs?

A key insight comes from Manhattan Project physicist Leo Szilard. In 1945, Szilard organized a petitionsigned by 70 Manhattan Project scientists, urging Truman not to use atomic bombs against Japan without first giving the country a chance to surrender, on terms that were made public.

In May 1945, Szilard met with Secretary of State Byrnes to urge atomic restraint. Byrnes wasn’t receptive to the plea. Szilard — the scientist who’d drafted the pivotal 1939 letter from Albert Einstein urging FDR to develop an atomic bomb — recounted:

“[Byrnes] was concerned about Russia’s postwar behavior. Russian troops had moved into Hungary and Rumania, and Byrnes thought it would be very difficult to persuade Russia to withdraw her troops from these countries, that Russia might be more manageable if impressed by American military might, and that a demonstration of the bomb might impress Russia.

Burned to impress Stalin: A victim of the US atomic bombing of Hiroshima (AP /The Association of the Photographers of the Atomic Bomb Destruction of Hiroshima, Yotsugi Kawahara)

Whether the atomic bomb’s audience was in Tokyo or Moscow, some in the military establishment championed alternative ways to demonstrate its power.

Lewis Strauss, Special Assistant to the Navy Secretary, said he proposed “that the weapon should be demonstrated over… a large forest of cryptomeria trees not far from Tokyo. The cryptomeria tree is the Japanese version of our redwood… [It] would lay the trees out in windrows from the center of the explosion in all directions as though they were matchsticks, and, of course, set them afire in the center. It seemed to me that a demonstration of this sort would prove to the Japanese that we could destroy any of their cities at will.”

Strauss said Navy Secretary Forrestal “agreed wholeheartedly,” but Truman ultimately decided an optimal demonstration required burning hundreds of thousands of noncombatants and laying waste to their cities. The buck stops there.

A victim of the atomic bomb

The particular means of inflicting these mass murders — a solitary object dropped from a plane at 31,000 feet — helps warp Americans’ evaluation of its morality. Using an analogy, historian Robert Raico cultivates ethical clarity:

“Suppose that, when we invaded Germany in early 1945, our leaders had believed that executing all the inhabitants of Aachen, or Trier, or some other Rhineland city would finally break the will of the Germans and lead them to surrender. In this way, the war might have ended quickly, saving the lives of many Allied soldiers. Would that then have justified shooting tens of thousands of German civilians, including women and children?”

The claim that dropping the atomic bombs saved a half-million American lives is more than just empty: Truman’s stubborn refusal to provide advance assurances about the retention of Japan’s emperor arguably cost American lives.

That’s true not only of a war against Japan that lasted longer than it needed to, but also of a Korean War precipitated by the US-invited Soviet invasion of Japanese-held territory in northeast Asia. More than 36,000 US service members died in the Korean War — among a staggering 2.5 million total military and civilian dead on both sides of the 38th Parallel.

We like to think of our system as one in which the supremacy of civilian leaders acts as a rational, moderating force on military decisions. The needless atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki — against the wishes of World War II’s most revered military leaders — tells us otherwise.

Sadly, the destructive effects of the Hiroshima myth aren’t confined to Americans’ understanding of events in August 1945. “There are hints and notes of the Hiroshima myth that persist all through modern times,” State Department whistleblower and author Peter Van Buren said on The Scott Horton Show.

The Hiroshima myth fosters a depraved indifference to civilian casualties associated with US actions abroad, whether it’s women and children slaughtered in a drone strike in Afghanistan, hundreds of thousands dead in an unwarranted invasion of Iraq, or a baby who dies for lack of imported medicine in US-sanctioned Iran.

Ultimately, to embrace the Hiroshima myth is to embrace a truly sinister principle: That, in the correct circumstances, it’s right for governments to intentionally harm innocent civilians. Whether the harm is inflicted by bombs or sanctions, it’s a philosophy that mirrors the morality of al Qaeda.

That’s not the only thread connecting 1945 to 2023, as Truman’s insistence on unconditional surrender is echoed by the Biden administration’s utter disinterest in pursuing a negotiated peace in Ukraine.

Today, confronting an adversary with 6,000 nuclear warheads — each a thousand times more powerful than the bombs dropped on Japan — Biden’s own stubborn perpetuation of war puts us all at risk of sharing the fate of Hiroshima and Nagasaki’s innocents.

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37 Comments
CCRider
CCRider
August 8, 2023 3:07 pm

It was a senseless slaughter that only, once again, demonstrates the pure evil that is government. But considering the spot Truman was in its use was a foregone conclusion. When it would eventually come out that we had this extraordinarily destructive weapon but didn’t use it against the people who bombed our boys out of their cots that sabbath day in Pearl because the bomb was too cruel, Truman would have been ridden out of town on a rail. No politician is going to let that happen.

Cricket
Cricket
August 8, 2023 3:35 pm

At this point, what difference does it make?

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
  Cricket
August 8, 2023 5:15 pm

It was really neat at the time, but now let’s tear it down and throw shit on it because we’re so much smarter now.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  YourAverageJoe
August 8, 2023 8:56 pm

They were trying to surrender–smart doesn’t enter in to it…

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
  pyrrhus
August 8, 2023 9:46 pm

So, you were there, eh?
At the time and given their behavior on and off the battlefield, I might have had doubts as to their sincerity.

Chester
Chester
  pyrrhus
August 8, 2023 10:02 pm

They should have tried harder. Not sure how hard it is to surrender.

Hal P
Hal P
August 8, 2023 3:40 pm

And if Operation downfall, the invasion of mainland Japan would have happened in the fall of 1945 like it was planned, many of us would not be here today for our parents/grandparents would have been killed in the invasion.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  Hal P
August 8, 2023 8:57 pm

They would have been starved out before that…or we could have just let them surrender!

Dying Sun
Dying Sun
August 8, 2023 4:10 pm

More “Hate America First” propaganda supported by cherry-picked data and after-the-fact opinions.

Hiroshima was a city of considerable military importance. It contained the 2nd Army Headquarters, which commanded the defense of all of southern Japan. The city was a communications center, a storage point, and an assembly area for troops.

The city of Nagasaki had been one of the largest sea ports in southern Japan and was of great war-time importance because of its many and varied industries, including the production of ordnance, ships, military equipment, and other war materials.

The following two quotes were taken from the book “Downfall” by Richard B Frank.

Those insisting that Japan’s surrender could have been procured without recourse to atomic bombs cannot point to any creditable supporting evidence from the eight men who effectively controlled Japan’s destiny . . . . [Those eight are then listed in the book.] (page 343)

The contemporary evidence and the Emperor’s own voice in “Showa Tenno Dokuhakuroku” demolish the postwar myth that the Emperor was eager for surrender throughout 1945 and thus could have been mobilized to end the war by American diplomacy. (page 345)

You can also read “The Rising Sun” by John Toland to get an idea of how chaotic things were in Japan at the end of the war and how the process of surrender hung by a thread. It almost did not happen. The hack McGlinchey needs to read some “real” history before he writes another pseudo-historic propaganda screed like this one.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  Dying Sun
August 8, 2023 8:57 pm

Idiocy…

The Dead Messenger
The Dead Messenger
  Dying Sun
August 8, 2023 10:16 pm

So, you don’t consider our own military leaders’ quotes as “real” history? Who the bleep are the hacks Frank and Toland? Never heard of them. The Japanese didn’t surrender because of the bombs, they surrendered after the Soviets overran their million man army in Manchuria, and the emperor feared they would have no qualms about killing him, as they had killed their own Tsar. That’s why they surrendered to us. Given your bias, I’m surprised you didn’t try the ridiculous old “500,000 casualties invading Japan” screed.

AnonymousReaper
AnonymousReaper
August 8, 2023 5:07 pm

Fire bombing with 1000 plane raids killed more Japanese than the two A bombs combined. Which is worse? Read about the B-29 bombing operations on Japan. Carpet bombing cities should be a war crime.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  AnonymousReaper
August 8, 2023 8:59 pm

They were both war crimes, so the same…and Tojo didn’t surrender because of the bomb or the bombing, it was because Russia entered the war and the Japanese were starving….

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
  AnonymousReaper
August 8, 2023 9:51 pm

The choice was theirs alone as to when to surrender.

zappalives
zappalives
  AnonymousReaper
August 9, 2023 7:22 am

Yep………….one raid over Tokyo killed over 100K.
The whining democrats who second guess ending the war with Japan have no problem killing their countrymen with poison vaccines……………………….funny that.

Eud
Eud
  zappalives
August 9, 2023 7:20 pm

●The firebombing of Tokyo was designed to create a firestorm from the perimeter of the targeted area, toward the center.
●The first planes laid out the area using colored flares.
●Tokyo population density at the time: 100,000 per square mile.
●The firebombing raid burned 16 square miles of Tokyo.
●The official death toll is 84,000 dead, and 1,100,000 rendered homeless.

My best guesstimate totals are:
•40,000 survivors
•1,560,000 burnt to death.
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(Twentieth Air Force): Mission 40: During the predawn hours, 279 B-29s, of 325 airborne, blast the Tokyo urban area with incendiaries, destroying 267,171 buildings, about one-fourth in the city, killing 83,793 and wounding 40,918 people and destroying 15.8 square miles (40.9 square km); this death total is the highest of any single day’s action during the war, exceeding the deaths caused by the first atomic bomb on Hiroshima; 20 other B-29s bomb alternates and targets of opportunity; 14 B-29s are lost; the participating B-29s are from the XXI Bomber Command’s 73d, 313th, and 314th Bombardment Wings (Very Heavy) based on Guam Island, Tinian Island, and Saipan Island in the Mariana Islands; the raids are flown at levels ranging from 4,900 to 9,200 feet (1,494 to 2,804 m).

Source
https://web.archive.org/web/20130602071111/http://www.usaaf.net/chron/45/mar45.htm

Call me Jack
Call me Jack
  AnonymousReaper
August 9, 2023 3:09 pm

If civilians are on fire,it doesn’t matter much if it’s 2000 degrees or 2 million.

Eud
Eud
August 8, 2023 6:08 pm

I used to get paid to watch dogs.
I wish I had been paid to watch dogma.

Firebombing Japanese and German civilians was a cruel act commited by cruel humans…because they could.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Eud
August 9, 2023 10:41 am

…and they still fucking CAN.

There’s your take away.

Bob
Bob
August 8, 2023 6:51 pm

You cannot judge the events of the past by the morals and standards of today. Many, many bad things in history have happened since the advent of mankind. Learn from it all and move forward in a better way, however, that is what humanity really sucks at. We do bad things, argue over the outcome for a few decades then inevitably do something worse. Wash, rinsed, repeat.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  Bob
August 8, 2023 9:00 pm

Why not? Was mass slaughter for no reason ever something we regarded as moral?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  pyrrhus
August 9, 2023 10:42 am

Yes. Yes it was, and still is. Welcome to the Land of the Real.

Tr4head
Tr4head
August 8, 2023 8:14 pm

“Ralph Bird, Under Secretary of the Navy: “The Japanese were ready for peace…” This sums up the nonsense in this article. Without going into the facts, which are apparently not considered, let me just say that the Military was absolutely committed to National suicide and the loss of millions if necessary. Hirohito had to be pushed to the edge to go against a suicidal miltary high command comprising at least half of the officers. After the bombings, Hirohitos recording of his surrender speech to the people (could not speak live as he was a deity) was sought after by a coup against him at his palace. The recording was not found so was aired. I suggest a viewing of the documentary D Day, referring to their D Day, not ours. It was total chaos and even after 2 Bombs, the war almost continued as the armed forces of Japan were headed by suicidal maniacs.

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
  Tr4head
August 8, 2023 9:53 pm

Thank you

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
August 8, 2023 8:55 pm

Since the Japanese had been trying to surrender for 8 months, but FDR had banned the whole discussion for political reasons, it was even more senseless than that….They ultimately surrendered on the same terms they had offered previously….Sheer butchery…

Eud
Eud
August 9, 2023 12:13 am

Reasonable speculation ahead:

They dumped pumkin bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki as the first bombs in firebomb attacks?

These pumpkin bombs were filled with powderized yellowcake uranium. The bombs dispersed the highly flammable, yellowcake powder in a compressed gas explosion.
When the incendiary bombs hit this cloud at exactlythe right time, the result was a massive fuel air explosion. If not, the cities lit up like matches when the incendiaries hit.
___
But,
Is yellowcake highly flamabke?

Yellowcake uranium:

To make it flammable, we have to add oxygen to its chemical composition. And that’s exactly what uranium oxide (also known as yellowcake) is made out of 98% uranium and 2% oxygen.
That extra oxygen makes it burn very easily when exposed to open flames.

When uranium minerals are pulverized into dust particles, they can cause other materials to catch on fire.

As such, many areas with high concentrations of uranium deposits ban people from entering caves that contain significant amounts of these minerals to prevent accidental burns and fires.

Source
https://fireproofdepot.com/uranium-flammable/

This would account for radiation sicknesses and burns.

Could be.

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 9, 2023 3:56 am

“Putting out feelers through third-party diplomatic channels, the Japanese were seeking to end the war.” That wasn’t our terms. Our terms were simple. Unconditional surrender. You attacked us, m************. Surrender or die. We’re not going to lose another American we don’t have to. I hate articles like this. And I’m not anonymous. starfck

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
August 9, 2023 4:21 am

The only condition on the Japanese side was the retention of the institution of the Emperor – something that happened anyway.

Liberty Advocate
Liberty Advocate
August 9, 2023 9:17 am

Nukes are a hoax. The bombings in Japan were just napalm bombs. Get over it.

Tr4head
Tr4head
  Liberty Advocate
August 9, 2023 9:52 am

Wow. Those fake 1945 CGI mushroom clouds rising to 100000 ft sure fooled me.

Eud
Eud
  Tr4head
August 9, 2023 11:36 am

Mushroom clouds are not exclusive to “nukes”

●Large fires.[Firebombed city on a low wind day?]
●Volcanoes.
●Large “conventional” explosions.
[One can find all manner of mushroom cloud, explosion and fireball videos]

As Always Ask:
Who told you?
Who has benefited?
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Perhaps read up a little on:

Lookout Mountain Air Force Station (LMAFS) is a Formerly Used Defense Site which today is a private residence of actor Jared Leto in the Laurel Canyon neighborhood of Los Angeles, California. The USAF military installation produced motion pictures and still photographs for the United States Department of Defense and the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) from 1947–1969.[3]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lookout_Mountain_Air_Force_Station
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And perhaps look at some vids of mushroom clouds and fireballs:

mushroom cloud:

mushroom cloud:

Fire mushroom cloud:

Firey mushroom cloud:

Mushroom cloud Ukraine:
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/russia-mushroom-cloud-ww3-fears-16989337

“nuke” fireball:

Another:

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I am not so sure things are as they say.
Anyway…
Peace and blessings friends!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Eud
August 9, 2023 3:08 pm

What? You want people to abandon assumption and actually check for themselves?

These troglodytes? Never.

Eud
Eud
  Eud
August 9, 2023 4:00 pm

Take two explosions like the last two, slow down the film speed and add a loud explosionand rumble…instant “nuclear detonation test film”

I present “How to fake a nuke detonation”
Set the stage. Film your “explosion” and then slow down the playback speed.
Cued to play.
Slow down the play speed to 25% before pushing play

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Liberty Advocate
August 9, 2023 10:43 am

Looks like the only thing you’re advocating is pure refined bullshit.

Eud
Eud
  Anonymous
August 9, 2023 4:46 pm

Looks like the only thing you’re advocating is pure refined bullshit.

Only an epithet?
Not even clever?

Go Piss Bubbles

Eud
Eud
  Anonymous
August 16, 2023 2:53 am

Looks like the only thing you’re..
A Mirror. Pisse ouffe

Call me Jack
Call me Jack
August 9, 2023 3:06 pm

My father was stationed in London and his Army group just received mobilization orders for the planned invasion of Japan when the 2 bombs dropped. I don’t have a problem with that decision. I do have a problem with FDR pushing Japan into war.