Here’s how the NWO pyroterrorists started and spread the MAUI firestorms

Via State of the Nation

Utter destruction via manmade firestorms in the wake of OPERATION TORCH MAUI

SOTN Special Note: This rejoinder was elicited from the many excellent comments posted at sites like The Burning Platform regarding the now obvious DEW-triggered acts of pyroterrorism which have plagued the world for decades.  The critical point here is that some commenters demand “evidence”.

Okay, you want evidence?  If we posted a video of a laser beam (aka as a directed energy weapon) coming down from the sky and exploding into fire in a Lahaina home, what would you say?  The trolls would reflexively denigrate it as a deepfake.

Really, given how the NWO perps totally locked down Lahaina PRIOR to executing this black operation, do you think they are going to make any conspicuous mistakes?  Actually they did; like this one: VIEW HERE: Eyewitness Testimony How Police Perpetrated Maui Mass Murder

 What’s the critical point about EVIDENCE?

In this era of extreme deceit and when falsehood is actually much more powerful than truth for the masses, the best evidence is evidence that is circumstantial, anecdotal and prima facie evidence.  Of course, forensic evidence is also very compelling but will take some time and great effort to acquire and properly assess in Maui because of the lockdown. See: Maui Police Are ARRESTING Witnesses Of The Fires! (Video)

Just why is that?

First, because we all know the perps are expert at both creating physical evidence out of thin air, and then planting it wherever it best builds their case against an innocent patsy or for a false narrative. Who doesn’t know how very easy it is to manufacture what is legally known as “real evidence” for virtually any crime committed under the sun?  Just remember the completely innocent and set up Lee Harvey Oswald!

Which means that the most ironclad cases are built with a panoply of circumstantial, anecdotal and prima facie evidence.  Testimony from high-integrity firsthand witnesses stationed all over Maui on Tuesday, August 8, 2023 will tell the back story better than all the laser beams in the world when this crime scene investigation is over.

CAVEAT: When it concerns any complex crime scene like Lahaina, it’s never about the what happened, it’s about WHO did it and WHY.  At this early stage of the criminal investigation being conducted by citizen journalists all over the Internet, the volumes of actionable evidence is simply overwhelming. See: Hawaii’s 9/11 Staged By All The Usual Suspects


Now here’s how they did it … like they always do it in this age of advanced pyroterrorist technology.

Submitted by Maui Massacre Investigation Team
State of the Nation

It ought to be intuitively obvious that the the Maui firestorms were both stealthily started and methodically spread by a series of highly coordinated acts of pyroterrorism, yes?!

For those who doubt that OPERATION TORCH MAUI was a meticulously planned and highly organized Gladio-style, false flag, black operation perpetrated by the U.S. Intelligence Community in collusion with the U.S. Military, please check out these 4 exposés and their accompanying photo-documentaries to grasp the patently obvious MO.

OPERATION TORCH CANADA: THIS IS THE BIG ONE FOR 2023

OPERATION TORCH CALIFORNIA: NWO Pyro-terrorists Geoengineering Massive Firestorms, Triggering Wildfires with DEWs (Photos)

OPERATION TORCH GREECE: Another Nation Targeted With Geoengineered Wildfire Terrorism & DEW Attacks (Photos)

OPERATION TORCH AUSTRALIA: A Special Report on the Geoengineered Firestorms and DEW-triggered Arson Fires

In each of the preceding exposés, the photos tell the real story.  What they convey to any reasonable and objective viewer is that the fire damage patterns are very similar and simply don’t make sense, except when DEWs are prominently configured in the criminal case.

Now see this lated exposé to compare to those four: OPERATION TORCH MAUI.

The photos below capture a central piece of the plot to commit the Maui mass murder.  The police, according to that highly credible eyewitness testimony, kept these vehicles trapped on the main roads with no where to go just before the microwave weapons were trained on the area to cause both buildings and cars to explode into funeral pyres.


WATCH!!! This is why so many people were
jumping in the water in Maui…….
…not only were the microwave weapons baking
the entire area, the heavy metals in their bodies
were heating up like they would in a microwave
oven causing their tissues to literally explode
(VIDEO).


MO of Pyroterrorim

In the aggregate, the following and means and methods, techniques and technologies are often used in concert to both set up a firestorm event, trigger it, and then keep it going until the planned destruction has been accomplished.

Atmospheric Aluminum (a Powerful Fire Accelerant)
via Widespread Chemtrail Spraying

HAARP Frequencies especially Satellite-based

Weaponized SMART Meters

Specific EMFs Disseminated from Cellphone Towers

Microwave Weapons (i.e. DEW) Operating from
GWEN Towers and Microwave Towers

Localized mini-EMPs Set Off by Remote Facilites

Directed Energy Weapons (e.g. Lasers) Fired
from Drones,
Satellites, Air Force
Aircraft and Naval Ships

Arsonists Disguised as Police Officers, Firefighters
and Other First Responders

Fire-starting Incendiary Devices such as
Plastic Sphere Dispensers routinely
used for Controlled Burns

Miniature Drone Flamethrowers Operated
by Remote by U.S. Military Personnel

Gross Intentional Mismanagement of
Parks, Forests,
Grasslands & Brush

Deliberately Overloaded and/or Sabotaged
Power Lines Under Hawaii Electric Management
by Gladio Agents 

Various Chemical Geoengineering Programs,
Weather Modification Techniques &
Climate Engineering Technologies
(e.g. Geoengineered Hurricane Dora Provided Perfect Cover
for the Highly Unusual Catastrophic Winds That
“Ripped Through Hawaii” with Perfect Timing)

All or any combination of the above could have been used all over Maui, in a highly coordinated fashion, to fabricate an extremely conducive environment for isolated firestorms to be triggered and then rapidly spread like WILDFIRE throughout the targeted communities in and around Lahaina. (This list is by no means exhaustive as there are many other tricks of the trade also used by military-trained pyroterrorists.)

BOTTOM LINE: There’s something very rotten in Denmark Maui.

How in the world did the Maui firestorms miss this mysteriously unscathed house and property?! Answer: DEW missed the targe

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RoCar
RoCar
August 17, 2023 8:45 am

Why would they do this?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  RoCar
August 17, 2023 9:19 am

The police did the same thing in the Paradise fire.

DEW-bea bros
DEW-bea bros
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 6:22 pm

RoCar- To kill any eye witnesses and or natives to deal with after the fact. Dead people don’t ask questions.

Warren
Warren
  RoCar
August 17, 2023 10:01 am

Why? A false flag to declare a climate emergency lock down in 1..2..3…

Cpt_Obviuos
Cpt_Obviuos
  Warren
August 17, 2023 7:15 pm

https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-23-106717

Published May 25 by the hilariously-named Government Accountability Office.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  RoCar
August 17, 2023 5:09 pm

Did anybody notice that John Pelletier, the police chief of Maui was also in charge of the Las Vegas shooting coverup?

The coincidences never end.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/08/15/maui-police-chief-john-pelletier-las-vegas-response/70594938007/

Aunty Acid
Aunty Acid
August 17, 2023 8:50 am

Hahah wait it wasn’t the Khazarians who live rent free in your head? Clown.

MartelsHammer
MartelsHammer
  Aunty Acid
August 17, 2023 9:52 am

You know the small hats are behind this…..from their secret stronghold (we are not sure where but there is one!). While I think there is some obviously off with Maui…….Eg. Police Chief Pelletier was the incident commander of the Las Vegas (unexplained) mass shooting. It’s a big stretch to go with DEW and hundreds of people involved……eg. who builds the DEWs? Where are they launched from? Who maintains them, authorizes the firing of DEWS, and on and on…..hundreds if not thousands of people are required……and nobody says anything after the worst loss of life in a fire in 100 years? Nope, that’s not human nature or if it is we are totally screwed and should just resign ourselves to the inevitable.

formerly anonymous
formerly anonymous
  MartelsHammer
August 17, 2023 10:45 am

Exactly Martel.
Everybody here goes on and on, ad nauseam, about how inept, incompetent, flat out stupid the Gov. and whoever else is running things are, but these same people can pull this off and NONE OF THEM will ever divulge their complicity or knowledge. That is 100% impossible. Like you said, this would take a ton of people on the same page for a long time to do this.
Wind blew some power lines down followed by incompetent decision making by those who’s job it is to deal with these situations. Wind driven fires behave erratically because when it encounters a solid object, wind shear and eddies are created, that is why some structures will survive, plus that house in the picture has a metal roof. “DEW missed the targe” Spell check much? So a laser beam from above did a sweep of this neighborhood and missed this house? What happened? Did Dr. Evil spill his coffee and bump the joy stick?
SOTN is just another Info Wars doom porn site for sad, scared and angry people. Lot’s of money to be made from that target audience.
The Burning Platform comment section is turning into a burning pile of shit. Seriously.

piearesquared
piearesquared
  formerly anonymous
August 17, 2023 3:08 pm

No, it doesn’t take a ton of people on the same page for a long time. Operations like this are highly compartmentalized, and most of those involved are just doing one small part and don’t have any idea what the big picture is. They are just doing their job or just following orders. It only takes a handful of people who know the final objective to successfully pull off something like this. There were probably only a couple of dozen people involved with 9/11 who knew what the whole operation was.

I don’t know for sure yet that the Maui fire was deliberately caused, but the available evidence so far certainly indicates that it probably is. There is certainly enough evidence available that there needs to be a thorough investigation, although if there is one it will undoubtedly be a cover-up, like the 9/11 investigation, which will be another good piece of evidence that the Maui fire was intentional. And there is certainly enough evidence that it was deliberately caused that someone would have to be dumber than dirt (or a troll) to say conclusively at this point that it wasn’t caused by DEWs.

Gayle
Gayle
  MartelsHammer
August 17, 2023 11:48 am

DEWs not needed. What is needed is a monstrous plan that is put into play when an unusually windy day in summer begins to manifest itself.

formerly anonymous
formerly anonymous
  Gayle
August 17, 2023 12:34 pm

MONSTROUS plan! LOL!
I can get behind some asshole vagrant tossing a cigarette into the weeds, hoping to start a fire and I understand there are weapons that may exist today that are capable of this but I will always fall back on Occam’s Razor. No verifiable proof of intentional master plan and the method to carry it out. All of these “links” being presented are NOT verifiable proof in a court of law and the lawsuits that are coming will prove it. Follow the money. If I’m a lawyer I want to go for maximum damage for responsible parties. Let us know when the manufactures of these “weapons” or the end users are sued.

Joey bag of diapers
Joey bag of diapers
  formerly anonymous
August 17, 2023 12:54 pm

Melted cars and green leaves on the trees, weird I know.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Joey bag of diapers
August 17, 2023 1:16 pm

Dew weapon missed a house, it can’t miss a tree ?
FAIL

mark
mark
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 9:36 pm

Hmmm…who ya gonna believe…the Mocking Bird Media or your lying eys???

Gee…alot of swing and missed wild fire trees…whata ya gonna DEW???

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I could put up dozens of other photos with the trees intact and the houses dustified and the cars melted…hmmm

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OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD: How The CIA Took Over The Mainstream Media

This has been going on since the 50’s…and is still…on many levels:

INSIDE OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD PLAN TO INFILTRATE THE MEDIA

By Kara Goldfarb

Published December 4, 2021

Updated January 21, 2022

https://allthatsinteresting.com/operation-mockingbird

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Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
September 15, 2023 6:35 pm

Yep.
Wrapping homes in styrofoam and a coating of paint makes them the real estate world’s version of residential kindling.

Or call em what they really are ‘wildfire death traps’.

mark
mark
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 9:56 pm

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Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
  Aunty Acid
August 17, 2023 1:31 pm

Stealing Aunt Acid’s good name mutherfukking scumbag.

Go and kill yourself.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Aunty Acid
August 18, 2023 12:16 am

Stealing Auntie’s name?
You pathetic little pissant.
Fucking coward.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
August 17, 2023 8:55 am

I used to listen to Celeste Solum occasionally until my spidey senses pegged her as a New Age “Christian”. She says she used to work for FEMA and still has contacts there. She said that the WEF people would run us into their pack and stack cities by way of burning us out, or if that wouldn’t work because the land had too much water, they would flood us out.

Brewer55
Brewer55
  Mary Christine
August 17, 2023 9:25 am

Like you, I listened to her early on too. She made a lot of sense and, I think she had a lot to share that was accurate but, for the same reasons you stopped following her, I did the same.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Brewer55
August 17, 2023 9:34 am

Yeah, I can’t even remember exactly what it was that made my spidey senses go off. I was discussing this with Fleabaggs at one time. Turns out she lives in a town that has a very high percentage of “new agers” living there, some who claim to be witches.

Brewer55
Brewer55
  Mary Christine
August 17, 2023 9:37 am

Early on during the plandemic, she was one of the first ones talking about hydrogel.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Brewer55
August 17, 2023 9:49 am

Yeah I remember that. But hydrogel has been around a long time. At least 50 years and have been used in eye treatments for one. I think she is some sort of controlled op. Lots of good info mixed with disinfo

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/287206849_History_and_Applications_of_Hydrogels

She could be right about the plan to burn or flood people out.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Mary Christine
August 17, 2023 7:15 pm

She’s now part of the Steve Quayle crowd if that says anything to you.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Brewer55
August 17, 2023 7:13 pm

The hydrogel is why I was listening to her in 2020 & 21.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Mary Christine
August 17, 2023 7:11 pm

Mary, it’s Kabbalah. Her parents were both jews, and it sounds like they spoke of WW II to her quite a bit, what a jew should do in times of adversity, etc. She does seem to believe that Jesus was/is the actual Messiah, but she just can’t give up that Kabbalah.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Vigilant
August 17, 2023 7:28 pm

If her parents were jews then so is she. All I know is she was too much into the New Age stuff to make me comfortable.
A lot of the alt-media is into New Age. While they do a good job of exposing lots of wrongs, they also push their False Light nonsense. Discernment is necessary.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Mary Christine
August 17, 2023 7:53 pm

Yes, she’s a jew and she doesn’t hide it.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Mary Christine
August 17, 2023 7:57 pm

The new age movement is the other “hand” of Kabbalah; Kabbalah for The West, the New Age movement for The Eastern nations. It’s like our uniparty, two wings of the same bird.

overthecliff
overthecliff
August 17, 2023 9:00 am

I’m not convinced that DEW even exists outside of laboratories. That said the technology for starting fires is pretty low tech and widely available. We all know that causing a disaster is not beneath the communists. Oh yeah, they would do that to advance their agenda.
Is it possible that articles like the above are designed by the CIA? The intent of the article is to paint advocates of arson possibility as crazy conspiracy theorists. No matter, the left will not let the crisis go to waste. They don’t have any conscience.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  overthecliff
August 17, 2023 9:20 am

SOTN site has all ability to comment turned off.

No counter opinion allowed. Just shut up and believe him.

Another Steve Quyale

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 10:08 am

all ability to comment turned off.

No counter opinion allowed.

Kind of like the know they are full of shit.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  overthecliff
August 17, 2023 9:24 am

DEW is mostly just another word for lasers. They exist and they exist in real world military applications.
Whether the fires have anything to do with lasers is a separate thing — I remain skeptical, as you point out there are simpler means of starting fires.

Whatever
Whatever
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 10:04 am

When stuff is invisible (like your WiFi) it can be hard to believe it’s real. DEW are more than microwave or lasers, especially sound weapons.
Maui may not be DEW but I think they exist and have been looking at it for years now. It’s scary but man up and look into it closely.

Warren
Warren
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 10:08 am

There are, but how do numerous boats in the harbor simultaneously explode in fire.

Gaolloag
Gaolloag
  Warren
August 17, 2023 10:57 am

There are, but how do numerous boats in the harbor simultaneously explode in fire.

They did not explode simultaneously.
That’s how.

For actual wildfire science you don’t go to a hysterical group spouting hyperbolic nonsense and then posting walls of copy paste they gathered over the years, where they set up and knock down their own strawmen.

BL, Mark?
Please, I implore you, read the science.
And then go back and assess your ridiculous fire assumptions.
You might gain some fire facts.
Out.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Gaolloag
August 17, 2023 3:24 pm

And then go back and assess your ridiculous fire assumptions.

If he was capable of that, one thinks he would have BEFORE.

Joey bag of diapers
Joey bag of diapers
  Warren
August 17, 2023 3:14 pm

And the trees still have leaves on them, weird I know.

Eud
Eud
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 4:42 pm

Lasers, microwaves, emf, pulsed, modulated, saturated.
Light flicker rate can be used to entrain.
Oh, and audio.
Yep.
DEWs are as real as rain.

Brewer55
Brewer55
  overthecliff
August 17, 2023 9:26 am

Well, unless you believe the videos put out by the military are faked, they are outside of the labs. They are mounted on vehicles and aircraft.

TCS
TCS
  Brewer55
August 17, 2023 9:47 am

Perhaps. But, lasers IN the atmosphere are a Hell of a long way from frickin’ “SPACE LASERS”. I’m not saying it couldn’t be done. I’m sayin that IF they actually had that shit, the world would already be a smouldering cinder. They’d be using them like it was free. No accountability at all.

This is just another test of how stupid, gullible and conspiracy minded the public is ahead of the upcoming elections so they know how badly they’re gonna have to cheat it to get gthe result they want.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  TCS
August 17, 2023 10:48 am

Company to beam energy to earth’s surface from solar collecters in orbit:

Home

Solaren Space Solar Power Overview

This is an extraordinarily bad idea in my opinion, but … dey’s workin on it anyway.

kfg
kfg
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 1:18 pm

“This is an extraordinarily bad idea in my opinion, but … ”

. . . they’re throwing us bags of money to play around with cool shit, so we’ll take the ticket and ride the train until it inevitably sputters to a stop and we start working our next grift.

anon a moos
anon a moos
  Brewer55
August 17, 2023 10:13 am

The british showcased directed energy weapons decades ago claiming they are only used for crowd control. Area denial and dispersal weapons were truck mounted but were quite large at the time. microwave frequencies can bake you instantly or merely make you uncomfortable, depending on the settings, popcorn or thaw, intermittent or continuous stream. .

In the time of the rollout these asswipes just didn’t drop the project and move on. Since then they’ve further studied how to get maximum effectiveness and reducing the size of the weapon. ALWAYS developing the weapon, which always gets tested on the citizenry. Maybe Raythoen would know something. https://terasense.com/news/active-denial-system-a-terahertz-based-military-deterrent-for-safe-crowd-control/
Weird how these weapons seem to find their way to usage on enemies, within the borders of the nation.

If they have the weapons, they WILL use them, on you.

We’ve seen this time and again before. Whats changed?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  anon a moos
August 17, 2023 10:53 am

Not sure if LRAD would be considered directed energy, but they too can be “turned up” to the point of causing death. I believe they used them in Australia during Covid protests.

anon a moos
anon a moos
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 3:29 pm

I doubt its directed wishes. Whether its microwave, laser, sound etc its energy but in different forms. To say it isn’t is silly and I doubt DEW isn’t one form over another but is an umbrella term for various energy weapons. Companies like raytheon don’t spend loads of money developing new methods of killing people if there were no market for them. I willing to bet these dirtballs have a very wide application for all their toys, soup to nuts, whatcha need’n…

Not saying this maui event is a dew attack but I’m certainly not discounting it either. I have a hard time believing metal in vehicles can be melted by a fire. I was a welder for a time and know metal takes a blue flame, hotter than a unassisted flame to melt, O2 has to be pushed thru to get the required temps.

DEW-bea bros
DEW-bea bros
  anon a moos
August 17, 2023 3:34 pm

Photonics is a different ballgame than frequency sound LRADS. ( If in a LRAD situation, move to the side or back of the truck, it is only effective from direct front sound waves.

TCS
TCS
  overthecliff
August 17, 2023 9:41 am

Well, we got ACTUAL VIDEO of power poles being blown to the ground in real time…and we got ZERO footage of freakin’ laser beams.

Show me some hard evidence or it didn’t happen.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  TCS
August 17, 2023 10:06 am

Show me some hard evidence

First you would have to get them to understand what “hard evidence” is.

When absolute claims of “knowing” what happened are made, where there is no possibility of actually knowing the facts, you are dealing with an idiot or a liar. Or both.

Many idiots and liars here and at SOTN.

In this case, “I KNOW” = arrogant lie. Lots of liars.

Still waiting for the “experts” here to confirm which it is, DEW beams are invisible, or DEW beams are visible. Funny how nobody clarifies that one. I mean with all they “know”, you would think answering that would be easy.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 10:55 am

A microwave laser (maser) is invisible because microwaves are invisible. Other lasers are in the visible spectrum. Other than that, I concur with your assessment.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 11:01 am

Point being, there are “proof” of DEW videos with a visible beam, likely a camera lens flare.

I have pointed out the “visible beam” and had several state absolutely that that is the DEW beam.

Several others have claimed absolutely that DEW are completely invisible.

None of the “experts” here seem to want to touch that one.

How oddly restrained compared to the arrogant assertions of “fact” by several of them regarding other aspects of this incident.

mark
mark
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 11:55 am

DEWs (Directed Energy Weapons) IN ACTION

1 day ago
💢 Hawaii Maui – This is more than proof: DEW Energy weapons filmed in action

DEW DIRECT ENERGY WEAPONS IN MAUI

DEW ‘signatures’ on Maui explained from video of the devastation…some homes, cars, trees completely untouched yet some surrounded by homes with complete dustification damage (like 911).
Dew fire temperatures are three time hotter than recorded Wild Fires.
Plastic and trees survive Dew fires not Wild Fires.

MAUI FIRES DEW (DIRECT ENERGY WEAPONS) & AGENDA 21 GOALS (SMART CITIES) #PLASMAFIRES/MICROWAVE WEAPONS

https://rumble.com/v36p1lj-maui-firees-dew-direct-energy-weapons-and-agenda-21-goals-smart-cities.html

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California Firemen Find Signatures of Directed Energy Weapons

THE CAMP FIRE IN PARADISE
(Identical signatures to Maui)

The Camp Fire in Paradise, California began on November 8th of last year, destroying over 153,000 acres before finally being put out over a month later on December 14th. Over 13,000 homes and hundreds of businesses were destroyed, with more than half of this damage described as occurring within the first four hours.

The anomalies of the Camp Fire were ignored by the mainstream media and were only reported on a handful of independent websites, including ForbiddenKnowledgeTV.net.

Fires were observed burning at temperatures at least three times hotter than an average house fire; hot enough to melt aluminum and glass, reducing homes to pure ash yet leaving plastic trash cans beside them untouched.

Most of us are familiar with how microwave ovens heat and interact with foods and how this differs from the effects of thermal or convection ovens. We know that plastics are “microwave safe”, whereas metals explode violently when subjected microwaves. The effects of the NorCal fires of the past couple of years have been widely observed to resemble the effects one might expect to see from directed microwave radiation or masers.
Maser is the acronym for “microwave amplification by stimulated emission of radiation”. Likewise, laser is the acronym for “light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation”. Both masers and lasers are forms of amplified, coherent, electromagnetic radiation and both frequency ranges are used in various Directed Energy Weapons (DEWs). DEWs are a newer class of weapons that are starting to come into wider use.

The SupposedlyShelly YouTube channel interviewed retired California firemen, John Lord and Matt (last name withheld) about the anomalies they’ve observed and both were left to conclude that DEWs were involved. The firemen reported that plastics attached to metal completely melted while plastics standing alone withstood what must have been extraordinary heat. Other investigators observed how guardrails caught fire at the points where the metal bolts connected to the wood. DEWs could produce these effects.

DEWs can:
• be invisible and inaudible.
• be immune to gravity, wind and Coriolis forces.
• travel at light-speed and have near infinite range and thus be suitable for use in space warfare.
• be land-based, mounted on planes, drones, satellites or Boeing X-37s.
• have pinpoint accuracy.

One disturbing effect mentioned by the firemen that I hadn’t seen until I saw this video was the anomalous scarring along large swathes of forest, with the rest untouched.

The question of course is why the innocent populace of Paradise would be the target of a diabolical stealth attack using advanced weapons – and by whom?

Rumors swirled about a high-speed railway and gold reserves discovered in the Paradise area but the most pervasive rumors involved the UN’s Agenda 21 action plan and a Globalist plot to declare designated areas unfit for human habitation; to deny property rights, to undermine US sovereignty and to herd any survivors into megacities, with the goal of subjugating humanity to an “eco-totalitarian” regime.
While crazy-sounding and unbelievable, one cannot deny that mainstream media hosts were heard casually discussing whether people should be allowed to rebuild in Paradise.

Last Wednesday, the missing persons call center for those who were unaccounted for during the Camp Fire was closed down. Butte County officials were able to locate 3,200 people, with three individuals still considered missing, according to the sheriff’s office. Four victims have not yet been named, deputies said. The Camp Fire was the deadliest fire in California’s history, claiming 86 lives.

mark
mark
  mark
August 17, 2023 5:33 pm

Hmmm…no one want dispute the cell phone vid by the Shell station…in detail???

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
August 17, 2023 5:40 pm

You mean the one with power line arcs and lens flare? That one?

I think you will find mark, many people are not interested in anything you have to say, or engaging with you, because you have made it pretty clear you are an angry unhinged loon.

So, not really, no.

mark
mark
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 7:55 pm

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa…

BEAM No Name up Scotty!

Use the same DEW BEAM these Luciferian Death Cult sons of bitches and daughters of witches (he is desperately covering for…why I don’t know but the result is the same) are using to cook people alive under the cover of night time wildfires.

So this cell phone vid with the beam coming down is “power line arcs and lens flares”…Haaaaaaaaaaaa…

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The guy behind the phone needs to realize he is in supernatural danger.

They: TLPTB (L=Luciferian) will want that phone….and they will kill him to get it.

Remember what Chief of Police local…the same one from overseeing the Vegas mass is shooting FF….hmmm…how many people with cell phone vids and eye witness testimony came to sudden ends after that attack?

This has to be shut down and disappeared like so many and so much before.

TBPers…watch this…it will be scrubbed soon…unless someone gets it in the WAY BACK machine…or maybe the Death Cult will just leave it up to MOCK US…like this recent MOCK.

Demons love to MOCK.

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Hey No Name…please tell me you realize this is a MOCK?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
August 17, 2023 8:31 pm

Hey No Name…please tell me you realize this is a MOCK?

A mock? OK.

BTW; (from above)

I think you will find mark, many people are not interested in anything you have to say, or engaging with you, because you have made it pretty clear you are an angry unhinged loon.

Your “mock” probably did not help dispel that.

mark
mark
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 8:54 pm

Dude…wait what about the BEAM you said is: “Power line arcs and lens flares.”

You watched that cell phone vid and you actually said that?

Let me repeat myself before the cell phone with that vid, and the owner is gone (I have already starting praying for him)

He is in huge danger.

You never answer questions just counter with OPERATION MOCKING BIRD tactics…

You know about OPERATION MOCKING BIRD tactics…right? You should…you use them all the time.

DEW you know where you are???

DEW you know OPERATION MOCKING BIRD and people who promote it have been exposed here for the 9 years I have been hanging around.

You never, ever, not once, get into any details of the difference in between wildfires and DEW attacks?

WHY? Dispute them.

The MOCK wasn’t from me…THE MOCK was from TLPTB MEAT PUPPET.

How do you feel about Uncle Joe dude?

Lets change the the subject?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
August 18, 2023 1:01 am

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Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
September 16, 2023 8:46 am

“Mark of the beast” is wrong about directed energy weapons.

It’s as plain as day.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
September 15, 2023 6:46 pm

Dog trainers hold up endless hoops for pooches to leap through.
As a paid government agent, mark, performs a similar service here.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
September 15, 2023 6:42 pm

MARK,
The correct answer to the question:
“Do you have any evidence?”

Is not..
“It couldn’t happen any other way.”

The fact is mark, you refuse to look at any other possibility.
In fact, you say anyone suggesting any other possibility is a government agent.

People always hate in others those things they hate in themselves.

Congrats mark, you now have so much moar in common with the left.
You have correctly identified yourself “mark”,
Have a blessed day!😉

mark
mark
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 2:29 pm

WATCH PROOF DEW Maui Fire From Directed Energy Weapons

The “Forest” fire was all around the city. It literally came from all side. This is not how forest fires work. They come from one side and are pushed by the wind. Wake up folks these are advanced weapons we are not allowed to know about. These images and video evidence should at least show you something is suspicious about this situation. Learn more for yourself. Also we have posted much information on this site about DEWs being used in Turkey to collapse all those buildings before the Earth Quake. Search back on this we have even more evidence and videos showing a clear usage of these weapons on the people.

https://thedeplorablepatriot.com/2023/08/12/watch-proof-dew-maui-fire-from-directed-energy-weapons/

formerly anonymous
formerly anonymous
  mark
August 17, 2023 2:45 pm

Like I said before, let us know when this clear and irrefutable evidence is used in a court of law to sue those responsible for this crime against humanity .
Fucking wack job.

mark
mark
  formerly anonymous
August 17, 2023 2:50 pm

THE WHITE – HOT FUEL OF THE MAUI FIRESTORM

(Full link at the bottom)

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“It is well past time for the digital soldiers, patriots, truthers, conservatives, and the free people to educate themselves and share the truths and specs on how various DEW weapons work, from handheld brainwave altering devices to the massive billion-volt antenna arrays of HAARP found in Alaska and now, thanks to the whistleblower Eric Hecker, Antarctica.

Remember, the “truth will set you free.” Big Everything won’t be sharing or disseminating the truth at any time going forward. They will be doing the opposite as they did in Covid: Lie, manufacture untruths, gaslight, manipulate data, and spread propaganda like a virus.

We are in a spiritual war”.

“What I saw in 2017 and what I see today in Maui are one and the same events. Only microwave technology as in DEW–whether military lasers or HAARP–can explain how the structures not only burned down, but melted kitchen appliances, bathtubs, metal alloy wheel rims, and far more, yet left the trees standing with foliage intact”.

https://americanmediaperiscope.com/wp-content/uploads/2-WILDFIRE-COLORADO-1024×576.webp

Whether by chance or fate, I visited a medicinal plant in Fairplay, Colorado. On the return trip to the hotel I was staying at in Denver, I drove through a valley with three or four houses burned in a natural wildfire, along with the trees and foliage I captured in the above photo.
Compare the wildfire burnt trees to the images of the unharmed trees in both Santa Rosa 2017 and Lahaina 2023. The unscathed trees are a major tell.

Trees, Housing Materials, Microwave Effect

From my article six years ago. [Emphasis ours.]

“The wildfires weren’t wild at all. The houses cooked from the inside out. They often burned from the top of the roofs, incinerating the walls, floors, and appliances, and cladding down to the foundation. Yet, 90 percent of the trees on the properties remained standing with leaves on the branches—not burnt, merely dried out. It was as if a neutron bomb had detonated burning everything manmade, but leaving the greenery alone.”

And this paragraph on microwave impact.

“If you put tinfoil in a microwave oven it will spark with flames shooting about, giving off an orange halo glow. It’s not the metal that catches fire, but the aluminum oxide coating. When superheated by microwave energy the coating releases oxygen on the surface engorging the material to burn even hotter. This phenomenon is known as “field-activated combustion synthesis.” Like a Duraflame log, the self-sustaining oxygen fuels the flames as had been seen with the ceramics roof tiles and the metals used to build—materials that do not burn in a normal forest fire.”

[PDF of my 2017 article found at the bottom.]

MAUI BURNS FROM DEW FIRES

Understanding the true nature of the firestorm will be key to exposing the enemy. We know from Directed Energy Weapons experts, such as Eric Hecker (video at the end) and James Martinez, the MK-Ultra survivor–a recent guest on “Unrestricted Truths” (Episode 390), “DEW Weapons Target Humans–not only are chemtrails spraying confirmed as fact, but also DEW weapons, such as HAARP (High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program) that were suspected as causing the earthquake in Turkey at the start of this year, confirmed as well.

Videos from the Lahaina, Maui, firestorm.

The White-Hot Fuel of the Maui Firestorm

August 15, 2023

AMP JOURNAL

August 15, 2023
By James Grundvig, American Media Periscope
The 40-mile-per-hour wind and higher gusts neither sparked the Maui fires nor provided the fuel to incinerate 2,200 structures. The winds didn’t spread the fire to magically leap over the water burning the boats that had pulled offshore. Yes, the winds acted as a giant bellow. But they didn’t ignite or spark the blaze.

Fuel was needed. A lot of it.

Fuel, the most critical element of the Maui firestorm, didn’t come from the sparse trees that are still standing. If not a wildfire, then what was the fuel that flash-lit the fires to burn across different mediums and materials? What ignited the fires that burned metals and plastics, superheated CMU block and brick, melted windshields and wheel-rim metal alloys and the fiberglass boats pulled out of the harbor?

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The answer resides in the distant and near past of Maui.
The Maui Chemtrails Fight

For more than a decade, the hardy people of Maui fought to bring clear blue skies back to the tropical paradise by banning the geoengineering of their skies.

In 2011, a host of initiatives, from “Maui Clean Sky Ordinance” to “Maui Sky Watch,” tried in vain to stop the spraying of the metals nanodust over the Hawaiian archipelago. But the military-contracted planes continued to rain the metal shavings down on the island that hosts a pair of extinct volcanoes.

The three main elements used in chemtrail cocktails include barium (BA), aluminum (AL), and Strontium-90 (90Sr), a radioactive isotope. For those awakening now to the spraying overhead, note that barium and aluminum combined make “Ba’al,” one of the demonic gods that humans with lower frequency worship.

In 2015, Maui resident Michael Murphy got together with the mayor to stop the aerosol spraying with the bill “Blue Sky Ordinance” that sought to ban geoengineering the skies.

All such efforts, whether in Hawaii or mainland United States never succeeded in stopping the weather modification, the Strategic Aerosol Injection (SAI), and the Solar Radiation Management (SRM) programs that account for many of the chemtrail planes in the sky, but not all of them.
On the surface, the government and its captured agencies run the cover story of climate change, but the spraying of Ba’al+ chemtrails around the world serves a different purpose. Chemtrails dry out trees, bushes, and vegetation while making the land arid, and poisoning the air and water.
As we all know, there is a long history of forest fires in the United States. Particularly in drought-stricken areas or California with its infamous Santa Ana winds. But there is not only an uptick in such fires this summer—Canada, Louisiana, Texas, Pacific Northwest—but also a surge in the ferocity of the firestorms that nuked Santa Rosa in October 2017 in the “Wine Country Fire,” and the Campfire inferno that burned Paradise, California, off the map the following year.

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The Chemtrail layer represents a flashpoint for the spark, with Directed Energy Weapons (DEW) such as the HAARP array or military-grade lasers. Still, this one-two punch doesn’t explain the intensity and swift spread of the fires, nor does the high winds.

Something else was at play.

THE FUEL OF AMMONIUM NITRATE
In May 30 tons of ammonium nitrate—fertilizer—disappeared off a train in California. Since ammonium nitrate has been used previously in car bombs from the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing to the Oslo, Norway, blast in 2011, many researchers wrongly suggested that the fertilizer component turned the Canadian fires toxic cloud, which hung over New York City, a deep orange-reddish hue. But that wasn’t the case since ammonium nitrate rarely burns red.

Ammonium nitrate (NH4NO3) burns or decomposes. By itself, it’s not flammable and cannot combust. Most often, when it does burn, ammonium nitrate produces a white or light-colored smoke. Not blood red. Why would the Deep State transport the 60,000 pounds of stolen material across the country to New York State?

It makes no sense. But shipping or flying the stolen ammonium nitrate to Hawaii from California follows the principle of Occam’s razor. Proximity with the fewest moves needed to complete the mission.

Ammonium nitrate is an oxidizer; it supports the combustion of other materials. When a violent reaction occurs, such as a bomb blast or explosion, the ensuing cloud is made up mostly of nitrogen oxide and water vapor. In essence, ammonium nitrate releases oxygen. Oxygen is the fuel a fire needs to burst and spread.

Now add the coatings of the nanodust metals from years of chemtrail with a new layer of ammonium nitrate and all the Maui firestorm needed was the spark. Yes, the DEW device, whether a laser from a passing plane, satellite-based, or Chinese spy balloon. It wouldn’t take much to blow the inferno wide open at night.

The Deep State created the perfect fuel, which explained how the boats, vehicles, and structures all burned at once, and why the trees survived for the most part, including the 150-year-old banyan tree that centers Lahaina.

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We can also rule out “climate change” with both CBS News and ABC News tiptoeing around the farcical idea that an increase in earth’s greenhouse gases caused the massive inferno, that targeted only one of Hawaii’s 137 islands and atolls. No, the evidence can be seen in the drone footage video up top showing a white coating of dust on the collapsed rooftops and structures, most of the vehicles, and on the streets and ground, suggesting that ammonium nitrate was used as an accelerant and an oxidizing agent.

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Finally, the lowball number of dead–96 as of yesterday–is a coverup and lie. An entire school of children is missing, along with many people who drowned in the hot smoky water when they abandoned their burning cars.

https://americanmediaperiscope.com/the-white-hot-fuel-of-the-maui-firestorm/

BL
BL
  mark
August 17, 2023 2:56 pm

Mark- You know that one white house with the red roof that remaines untouched after the “forest fire” (cough), it belongs to a woman in Cali that is some big wig union official. Just a coinky-dink I’m sure.

mark
mark
  BL
August 17, 2023 6:49 pm

Ha!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  BL
September 15, 2023 6:52 pm

The house that survived implemented all of the home preparation advice.
The homeowner saved their property by paying attention.
The type of personal responsibility for home and property maintenence that is discouraged by mark/bl.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
August 17, 2023 3:09 pm

Cut and paste of entire articles?

Why?

Maybe just post the link next time?

TankerA
TankerA
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 4:51 pm

All in all it’s just a-nother post that’s a wall.

formerly anonymous
formerly anonymous
  mark
August 17, 2023 4:53 pm

ZZZZzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZ
ZzzzzzzZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz……….

mark
mark
  formerly anonymous
August 17, 2023 7:00 pm

formerly anonymous.

That is it…that is your debate, your content, your counter evidence, your catchy wordsmithy point counter point.

Feel free to reply to what I replied to your No Name buddy below on my 6:44 pm post…would love to hear your DETAILED answers too…as soon as you wake up…

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Oh yea…what do you think about the cell phone vid at the Shell station in Maui at 11:55 am…watch it soon…it will be scrubbed faster than you can say ZZZZzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZ
ZzzzzzzZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz……….just saying.

formerly anonymous
formerly anonymous
  mark
August 17, 2023 7:14 pm

Believe what ever you want. I seriously do not care.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
September 15, 2023 6:48 pm

Too long….as usual.
Copy~paste mark always gives my thumb a scroll-out.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
September 16, 2023 8:59 am

The wildfires weren’t wild at all. The houses cooked from the inside out.

No they were not.
They were preheated to over 500°F by heat radiation and convection, and ignited by 60mph windgusts filled with burning firebrands.
It was a nature created blast furnace where temps exceeded 1,300°F.
How do we know the fire temperatures exceeded 1,300°F?
Aluminum and magnesium engine blocks and wheels were melted.

I estimate around 9,000 or more humans were incinerated down to ash.

mark
mark
  formerly anonymous
August 17, 2023 3:06 pm

formerly anonymous

“Like I said before, let us know when this clear and irrefutable evidence is used in a court of law to sue those responsible for this crime against humanity .
Fucking wack job”.

Dude…your one note slur makes no sense? This is like the 3rd or 4th time this is all you have to say.

I’m putting up CONTENT…signitures of DEW attacks with vids and photos, and proving the difference inbetween them and wilfires to back up what I believe really happened and is happening…get it???

All you do is carp and insult…useless.

Buy a clue I have no control over who sues who.

As far as who is responsible I believe it is TLPTB (L=Luciferian) get it???

It is a Spiritual War and this is just one front/battle.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
August 17, 2023 3:19 pm

I’m putting up CONTENT…signitures of DEW attacks with vids and photos, and proving the difference inbetween them and wilfires to back up what I believe really happened and is happening…get it???

What you are doing is putting up a vast amount of someone else’s words, basically as spam for your pet belief.

I get that you think this “proves” something. Do you get that your jump to conclusions seem obnoxious, sanctimonious and arrogant to some?

Go back and read through your posts and the replies over the past few days. Think of how you would react to your assertions from the other side.

Probably wasting my time if my feeling about your personality type is correct. But do try it.

mark
mark
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 6:44 pm

Of course it proves something…it proves when DEWS are used they leave SIGNATURES different from wildfires. Something you completely and broadly dismiss but never get into the detail about.

DEW SOME HOMEWORK DUDE…refute this with more than slurs and cheap insults.

This is a big part of the problem with most Normies. As the corrupt crossing dressing but correct on this point J. Edgar Hoover once said:

“The average person is handicapped when coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists”.

Simple differences in between DEW attacks and wildfires:

1. The temperature in DEW attacks are 3 times hotter than normal wildfires, proven by the melted cars and entire blocks. That never has ever happened in wildfires.

Wild fires don’t melt engine blocks even with exploding gas tanks.

2. Wild fires consume all the trees around the home and business…DEW attacks focus on buildings and cars…and often skip around buildings, and leave many sometimes most or all the trees intact.

3. DEW attacks bring Dustification (like 911) to buildings but leave the trees around the houses and businesses intact. I have put up video and photo evidence of that on 4 or 5 threads. No wildfire has ever dustified a home…BIG POINT! when houses are burnt down by wildfires they look completely different because the temperature is about one third of a DEW attack.

4. Many suspect Smart Meters are used in Dew attacks…by exploding and there is evidence of this possibilty. They are highly suspect (besides the EMF radiation). Survivors of Dew attacks have said explosions starting popping in homes all around them at the same time. I posted a photo of an exploded Smart Meter from a suspected DEW attack.

Here is an example of the above: The giveaway clue that DEW was used in Santa Rosa and Paradise Dew Attacks is the way that specific homes were burnt along property lines. Some houses were untouched with fresh produce out front, or orange trees in the backyard, next to houses which were razed to the ground and dustified.

These “wildfires” left mailboxes, plants, front yards, back yards, eucalyptus trees and other highly flammable things untouched, while somehow neatly and perfectly targeted particular houses, neighborhoods and areas.

Are these the most selective “wildfires” in American history? How can one house burn to the ground while each house on either side remained completely intact? Wildfires obviously don’t do this. Some people were, horribly, killed in their cars. There were reports that as many as 50,000 went missing or died!

OK…I could put up 25 pictures like these (and many from MAUI – just go over my past links being president of my fan club and all)…what say you DEW attack or wildfire?

If wildfire please explain why?

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You do realize what Agenda 2030 (formerly 2021) is right? You do realize the UN agenda to centralize governing power in a One World Government by taking power AND LAND away from the autonomous nation states of the world,,,and giving it to the captured governments

You do agree our government is captured…right?

In California, city officials are suggesting not to rebuild in burnt wildfire areas because the area is too fire prone, all the while prohibiting the people from practicing good forest stewardship.

You do realize there is an international LAND GRAB behind this…right? That the same people behind the needle ride are behind this?

Part of the plan is for the rulers (behind the DEWS) to stack-and-pack micro apartments for the masses in 15 minute cities. Obviously it is part of the NWO agenda as implemented via the UN.

The DEW technology has long existed I suspect far, far past any of our knowledge, and it is tactically being used to further the TLPTB (L=Luciferian) NWO strategic tyrannical agenda.

You are against that…right?

Vigilant
Vigilant
  mark
August 17, 2023 7:32 pm

mark, you have done your dew diligence and yet all of your evidence is merely brushed aside as meaningless. THAT’S why I’m not bothering to post my evidence. I don’t care to waste my limited spare time.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
September 15, 2023 6:54 pm

Tldr

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
August 17, 2023 3:38 pm

Dude…your one note slur makes no sense? This is like the 3rd or 4th time this is all you have to say.

And you post the same links that PROVE nothing. Again and again and again.

We get it, they convince you. Some of us need more than the loony assumptions you accept as fact. Respect that.

DEW-bea bros
DEW-bea bros
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 4:49 pm

Anony,we get it that you are obfuscating the evidence to protect TLPTB.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  DEW-bea bros
August 17, 2023 5:00 pm

Anony,we get it that you are obfuscating the evidence to protect TLPTB.

Where did I do this? Show me.

Or don’t, and confirm you are as much a lying fool as your other sock.

DEW-bea bros
DEW-bea bros
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 5:39 pm

Come on Nony, you are carrying water for TLPTB by attacking anyone who questions the official narrative. Prove it wrong , can you? Really, can you?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  DEW-bea bros
August 17, 2023 5:43 pm

carrying water for TLPTB

Let me guess.

BL? That your new sock?

Prove it wrong

Why would I need to? The DEWnuts have yet to show they are even close to right.

Not how logic/debate works BTW. Claimant proves their assertion.

DEW-bea bros
DEW-bea bros
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 6:14 pm

You show nothing, just echo the official narrative. THAT is a sure fire sign that you are the sock puppet. When did you debate anyone?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  DEW-bea bros
August 17, 2023 6:18 pm

Anony,we get it that you are obfuscating the evidence to protect TLPTB.

Where did I do this? Show me.

DEW-bea bros, you are a lying fool. Fuck off.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  DEW-bea bros
September 15, 2023 6:55 pm

Wow learn that peer pressure tactic…from the left…..in middle school?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  DEW-bea bros
September 16, 2023 9:02 am

Agree with MARK or you are literally Satan.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
September 16, 2023 8:53 am

How would you know how forest or urban wildfires behave?
You poopoo any wildfire science and even preparing for a wildfire.

Talk about head in the sand…
The way out of the echo chamber of your mind is to look at things from vantagepoints other than:
“ME MARK. ME ALWAYS RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING. YOU ALWAYS WRONG”

Warren
Warren
  overthecliff
August 17, 2023 10:06 am

The US started work on this in WWII, that’s what the real Montauk Project/Philadelphia Experiment was. All those Billions spent on Reagan’s Star Wars program back in the day. All that R and D, wouldn’t surprise me if we did, would surprise me if we didn’t.

BB
BB
  overthecliff
August 17, 2023 10:43 am

You can’t use that theory if the police are blocking people in cars from leaving the area that is burning. Yes, crazy people probably do have something to do with starting the fires, but all it takes is someone in the front of that cavalcade of cars following orders instead of running over him so other people can get out.

JethroToll
JethroToll
  overthecliff
August 17, 2023 10:50 am

Fire Technol. Author manuscript; available in PMC 2021 Jun 3.

Published in final edited form as:

Fire Technol. 2020; 57(2): 10.1007/s10694-020-01018-5. 

 doi: 10.1007/s10694-020-01018-5

PMCID: PMC8174413

NIHMSID: NIHMS1700946

PMID: 34092802

Investigating Coupled Effect of Radiative Heat Flux and Firebrand Showers on Ignition of Fuel Beds

Sayaka SUZUKI1 and Samuel, L. MANZELLO2

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Abstract

Fire spread occurs via radiation, flame contact, and firebrands. While firebrand showers are known to be a cause of spot fires which ignite fuels far from the main fire front, in the case of short distance spot fires, radiation from the main fire may play a role for firebrand induced ignition processes. Many past investigations have focused on singular effects on fire spread, and little is known about coupled effects. The coupled effect of radiative heat flux and firebrand showers on ignition processes of fuel beds is studied by using a newly developed experimental protocol. The newly developed protocol includes the addition of a radiant panel to the existing experimental setup of a firebrand generator coupled to a wind facility. Experiments were performed under an applied wind field, as the wind is a key parameter in large outdoor fire spread processes. Results show that radiant heat flux plays an important role for ignition by firebrands under 6 m/s while little effect was observed under 8 m/s.

Keywords: Firebrands, Ignition, Radiation, Large Outdoor Fires, WUI Fires, Urban Fires

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1. Introduction

Large outdoor fires pose problems for societies across the world [1, 2]. Perhaps the most often in the news are wildland fires that approach urban areas. These are more simply referred to as Wildland-Urban Interface (WUI) fires [3]. In Asia and North America, some recent examples are the 2019 WUI fires that occurred in South Korea and those in 2018 in Northern California in the United States [4-6]. In Africa, in less developed countries, there have been large fires that have occurred in informal settlements [7]. For centuries there have also been large urban fires in Japan, a country with no large wildland fire problem or informal settlement situation [2].

In all of these large outdoor fires, fires spread in three mechanisms: direct flame contact, thermal radiation, and firebrands as shown in Fig. 1. Firebrands are produced and lead to enhanced fire spread processes [8-27]. Often referred to as spotting processes, firebrands are liberated from the combustion of various fuel types, such as trees, shrubs, houses, and then induce ignition of fuel sources away from the initial fire source. In the case of short distance spot fires (distance up to 500 – 750 m [28]), a potentially important aspect of the physics of ignition induced by firebrand are the coupled influence of firebrand showers and radiant heat. Many past investigations have focused on singular effects on fire spread [11, 23-27], and little is known about coupled effects.

Figure 1

Fire spread mechanisms in large outdoor fires: direct flame contact, thermal radiation and firebrands

Here, the coupled effect of radiation and firebrand showers on ignition processes of fuel beds is studied by using a newly developed experimental protocol. Experiments were performed under an applied wind field, as the wind is a key parameter in large outdoor fire spread processes.

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2. Experimental Description

All experiments were conducted at the National Research Institute of Fire and Disaster (NRIFD). The wind field exits from a 4.0 m diameter fan, and it is possible to generate wind speeds up to 10 m/s. The flow field was measured to be within ± 10 % of desired wind speed over a cross-section of 2.0 m by 2.0 m. To generate firebrand showers, the reduced-scale continuous-feed firebrand generator was used and installed inside NRIFD’s wind facility [29]. This apparatus is known to have the ability to produce firebrand showers often seen in actual large outdoor fires (Fig. 2). Figure 2 offers comparison of firebrands in actual WUI fires [30] and firebrands from the firebrand generator. The experimental facility was modified for this work with the new aspect being the addition of a radiant panel to provide radiant heat to the fuel beds.

Figure 2

Comparison of firebrands in WUI fires (left) and firebrands from a firebrand generator under a 4 m/s wind (right). Image in left is from [30] showing WUI fires in California, USA 2018.

2.1. Experimental Apparatus

The reduced-scale continuous-feed firebrand generator consisted of two parts: the main body where combustion takes place and continuous feeding component (see Fig. 3). A conveyer was used to feed wood pieces continuously into the device and was operated at 1.0 cm/s, and wood pieces were put on the conveyer belt at 12.5 cm intervals. Douglas-fir wood pieces machined with dimensions of 7.9 mm (H) by 7.9 mm (W) by 12.7 mm (L) were used to produce firebrands. These same size wood pieces were used in past studies and have been shown to be within the projected area and the mass of firebrands measured from full-scale burning trees as projected areas obtained from actual WUI fires [31]. The wood feed rate used here was 80 g/min (mass based) or 160 /min (number based), similar to previous non-radiation assisted ignition studies [29]. As glowing firebrands were desired, the blower was set to provide an average velocity of 500 cm/s.

Figure 3

Schematic of a firebrand generator embedded in the wind facility in NRIFD

The fuel beds used for ignition were 300 mm by 300 mm in size and consisted of the same Douglas-fir wood pieces used to generate firebrands (Fig. 4 (a) and (b)). These were installed inside a mock-up corner assembly lined with calcium silicate board, since the ignition of the corner assembly itself was not the goal here; only ignition induced in the wood pieces was of interest. It was observed that firebrands deposited uniformly on the fuel beds when installed inside the mock-up corner assembly. To further simplify the experiments, these wood pieces in the fuel beds were oven dried to remove moisture at 104 °C. Moisture removal was verified by measuring the temporal variation of mass loss of the wood pieces.

Figure 4

(a) Schematic of the experimental settings. Front view (top) and Top view (bottom) are shown. Firebrand showers were produced using the reduced-scale firebrand generator installed in NIRFD’s wind facility. Fuel beds consisted of Douglas-fir pieces of uniform size.

(b) A typical experiment conducted at 8 m/s. Multiple glowing firebrands are seen depositing in the fuel bed.

To provide uniform radiant heat flux to fuel beds, an electrically operated quartz radiant panel was used. Dimensions of the radiant panel were also 300 mm by 300 mm (Fig. 4 (a) and (b)). It was mounted at a height of 440 mm from the fuel bed surface.

2.2. Experimental Condition

The two wind speeds were selected, namely 6 m/s and 8 m/s for this experimental series. The objective of the new experimental setup is to investigate the combined effect of radiative heat flux and firebrands on ignition, and therefore the wind speeds were carefully selected. Based on scoping experiments, firebrands are able to ignite fuel beds of wood pieces within 40 min under both wind speeds without radiative heat flux. Firebrand flux landing on fuel bed was measured via video recording (30 frames per second). The firebrand fluxes were 6.3 /m2 s and 9.0 /m2 s under 6 m/s and 8 m/s respectively. The characteristics of firebrands, namely the mass and the projected area of firebrands were compared. As shown in Fig. 5, the mass and the projected area of firebrands produced under 6 m/s and 8 m/s wind are similar as those are within similar mass and projected area class and the average within uncertainties.

Figure 5

Characteristics of firebrands used in this study.

A custom calibration rig was designed and fabricated to quantify the radiant heat flux that the radiant panel provided at the fuel bed surface. The heat from the radiant panel was 5.76 kW (Quartz-faced Infrared Radiant Panel Heaters, Omega Engineering). The applied radiant heat flux to fuel beds with no wind was 8.5 kW/m2. This value was carefully selected. In this study, it is important to investigate the coupled effects of firebrand showers and radiant heat flux on fuel bed ignition. Naturally, if the radiant heat flux applied to the fuel beds was too high, firebrands would simply serve as piloted ignition source, as the radiant heat flux would be the dominate ignition mode. Accordingly, a series of experiments using only a radiant heater coupled with spark ignitor was undertaken to determine the limits where radiant heat flux alone in the absence of firebrand showers was capable to ignite the fuel beds used here. At 10 kW/ m2, the fuel bed was not able to be ignited by a spark within 30 min. For values above 10 kW/m2, radiant heat flux in the presence of a spark was able to produce ignition of the fuel beds. The radiant heat was measured at multiple points and found to be within 10 %.

The applied wind increases the convective heat loss from the fuel beds, so the measured heat flux to fuel beds, using a total heat flux gauge (Schmidt-Boelter gauge, Hukseflux, calibrated by the manufacturer), under 6 m/s and 8 m/s were 5.6 kW/m2 and 4.0 kW/m2, respectively. Pre-heating time was determined as the duration from the time when the radiant panel was turned on to the time to start the firebrand generator. For pre-heating times of 10 min and 20 min, the wind field was switched on 60 seconds prior to initiating combustion in the firebrand generator. Selected pre-heating time was 0 min, 10 min, and 20 min. Baseline experiments were also performed to examine the ignitions by firebrands without applied radiant heat flux. The experiments for the same condition was repeated at least 3 times.

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3. Results and Discussions

Figure 4 (b) displays a picture of a typical experiment. In this picture, the applied wind speed was 8 m/s, and radiant panel was switched on at the same time as the firebrand generator, that is there was no pre-heating time. The experiments for the same condition was repeated at least 3 times, and the uncertainties were calculated based on two standard deviation.

Fig. 6 displays the time to smoldering ignition (SI) in the fuel beds a function of pre-heating time and wind speed. As mentioned above, the firebrand flux on the fuel beds differ under 6 m/s and 8 m/s (6.3 /m2 s and 9.0 /m2 s, respectively). The time to ignition did not take into account the difference of firebrand flux, so total number of firebrands per m2 required is introduced. The total number of firebrands per m2 required to achieve these ignition sequences is also displayed in Fig. 7. This was calculated by multiplying the time to SI by the firebrand flux. The time to SI was measured via video recording, from the time the first firebrand landed the fuel bed to the time the sustained SI was observed in the fuel bed. Experiments were repeated and the error bars in the figures shows the standard deviation. Here, sustained SI was defined as the start of intense smoke generation and glowing ignition of the fuel bed due to the coupled effects of accumulated firebrands and radiant heat flux. To aid in understanding, in Fig. 6 and Fig. 7, no radiant panel conditions denote that the radiant panel was not switched on. For other cases, the applied radiant heat flux to fuel beds was 8.5 kW/m2.

Figure 6

Coupled effects of radiation and firebrands on smoldering ignition under different wind speeds and pre-heating time.

Figure 7

Number of firebrands per m2 required for smoldering ignition under different wind speed and pre-heating time

An interesting result from these findings is that for wind speed of 6 m/s, the pre-heating due to the applied radiant heat flux to the fuel bed influenced the time to SI significantly. Yet, as the wind speed was increased to 8 m/s, the applied radiant heat flux had very little effect.

To better visualize these results, it is instrumental to describe the heat and mass transfer processes occurring in the fuel beds and firebrands. Treating the fuel bed and firebrands as a system, an energy balance gives:

Qfuel,total=Qfirebrand,comb−Qfirebrand,loss+Qfuel,rad−Qfuel,conv

(1)

where Qfirebrand,comb is the heat produced from the firebrand combustion, Qfirebrand,loss is the convective and radiative heat loss from a firebrand, Qfuel,rad is the external radiant heat provided to the fuel beds, and Qfuel,conv is the convective heat transfer (cooling) to the fuel beds. Since the fuel beds were oven dried in these experiments, the term indicating the energy to remove the fuel bed moisture is omitted.

In order to ignite the fuel beds, Qfuel,total has to be equal to or greater than the heat required for the ignition, Qig. Assuming ignition occurs when the temperature of the fuel beds reaches the ignition temperature.

plied radiant heat flux. It is believed that the increased wind speed rather changes the combustion dynamics of the firebrands by providing more oxygen and therefore alters their temperatures, resulting in enhanced combustion reactions. There is limited knowledge on the firebrand temperature or heat of combustion of a firebrand [32-34].

Manzello el al. [32] quantitatively showed that glowing firebrand surface temperature increased as the wind speed was increased. As a part of that investigation, the surface temperature of charred area on the glowing firebrand was simultaneously measured using both the thermocouple and the infrared camera [32]. The firebrand temperatures were quite sensitive to airflow. Therefore, in this work, larger firebrand temperatures were expected as the wind speed was increased from 6 m/s to 8 m/s.

Assuming the temperature of a firebrand increases with wind speed, it is known that the final mass of a firebrand under different wind speed decreases with the increasing wind speed [32]. Thus, Qfirebrand,comb is expected to increase as the wind speed increases. The temperature increase would result in the increase in Qfirebrand,loss, assuming tig is the same. From previous studies [25, 26], it is also known that the tig becomes shorter as the wind speed increases. In this case, Qfirebrand,loss may decrease depending on tig, cancelling the increase in Qfirebrand,loss by temperature increase. The external radiant heat has impact upon the fuel bed ignition. However, the convective cooling and shorter ignition time at a higher wind speed reduces this influence, which is shown in results under 8 m/s.

In every experiment in this investigation, smoldering ignition was observed to transition to flaming ignition. The time to flaming ignition in the fuel beds as function of pre-heating time and wind speed is shown in Fig 8. The total number of firebrands per m2 required to reach flaming ignition (FI) was also quantified and shown in Fig 9

THE FACTUAL.WILFIRE SCIENCE CONTINUES AT:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8174413/

B_MC
B_MC
August 17, 2023 9:32 am

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TCS
TCS
  B_MC
August 17, 2023 9:48 am

I question the intelligence of anyone stupid enough to live on an active volcano system voluntarily.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  TCS
August 17, 2023 10:57 am

What state are you in?

TankerA
TankerA
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 4:03 pm

Perpetual contusion

Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 5:14 pm

Same as college: Psychotic State University.

(With degrees that are mighty useful as well as employable all the time these crayzee days.)

DEW-bea bros
DEW-bea bros
  Aunt Acid
August 17, 2023 5:22 pm

State of U4EUH, Go 100 miles due east then turn left and go 100 more miles….you are there.

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 17, 2023 10:00 am

Now I’m convinced that a couple of the DEW theory commenters yesterday are writing these articles.

TCS
TCS
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 10:36 am

The internet is 42% bots…at present. This shit only gets worse from here.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  TCS
August 17, 2023 10:58 am

41.8%

Anonymous
Anonymous
  TCS
August 17, 2023 10:58 am

bleep-bloorp , fact checked as false
/s/

Anonymous
Anonymous
  TCS
August 17, 2023 12:50 pm

I was thinking the same thing reading these comments, AI, bots, etc……

TankerA
TankerA
  TCS
August 17, 2023 4:03 pm

98% of statistics are parsed.

Warren
Warren
August 17, 2023 10:00 am

One cop prevents dozens of cars from reaching safety. And Hawaii has the most restrictive gun laws in the county. The two things are not unrelated.

TCS
TCS
  Warren
August 17, 2023 10:37 am

A car makes a fine weapon…especially if your target is considerate enough to stand in the middle of the street for you!

Ginger
Ginger
  Warren
August 17, 2023 2:30 pm

It will be interesting to know just how many policemen, firemen, and general government workers died during this occurrence.
To serve and protect, what a fucking joke.

KJ
KJ
August 17, 2023 10:13 am

I believe these fires were started intentionally, but not sure of the details.

Whatever
Whatever
  KJ
August 17, 2023 10:34 am

Exactly. Why are the anti DEW people (maybe people) so invested in only fighting against the DEW idea? Just the fact that the whole thing stinks and was most likely purposeful is the question.
It may not be just one cause anyway- a propaganda tool is to encourage either/or thinking.

They act like there is no such thing as ‘plausible deniability’.
Fires, pandemics, weather disasters, etc. occur anyway and are easy to explain away, that’s why examining the context is important.

Also DEWs are basically invisible. Do you see your WiFi? Many here aren’t sure they exist. I think they do and have been looking at the evidence for years. I find it interesting that it’s a pretty nonreported on phenomenon in the age of info overload.
A year or two ago I gave links to mainstream news reports where they said they were using (sound) in a park in Philadelphia, and a stadium- and I believe an airport. Crowd control and more.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Whatever
August 17, 2023 10:43 am

Why are the anti DEW people

Well, I am not anti-DEW, I am anti-arrogant fools jumping to conclusions based on nothing but their own delusions of “knowing”.

Claims of “truth” where it is impossible to know for sure? Those people are fools.

Whatever
Whatever
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 10:51 am

This over the top reporting style has always been around. I personally prefer it to ‘reputable’ alt news that doesn’t even peep about the NWO freaks, and who still act like we have an actual government. But go ahead and be a one trick pony.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Whatever
August 17, 2023 11:04 am

But go ahead and be a one trick pony.

Ummmm….. fuck you.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 12:52 pm

Ignorance is bliss….

TankerA
TankerA
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 4:13 pm

anti-arrogant fools jumping to conclusions based on nothing but their own delusions of “knowing”.
And?
Scrupulously avoiding any and all links or references to factual wildfire resesrch.

anon a moos
anon a moos
  Whatever
August 17, 2023 10:45 am

Isaiah 59:7
Their feet run to evil, And they make haste to shed innocent blood; Their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; Wasting and destruction are in their paths.

There are evil men in this world. They cannot hide their vile hearts

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Whatever
August 17, 2023 11:01 am

The arsenal of weaponry both ‘secret’ and ‘known’, at the disposal of the USSA military is staggering. Look at what Russia has going for them as well….then ask the more salient questions, like, why did the police block egress and why was the water turned off?

Why was there no warning? Nothing. No sirens? Claiming official ineptitude can only go so far, especially when multiple witnesses heard many explosions going off, describing the sound as ‘boom, boom, boom’ and then the resultant fire storm. Then examine the boats in the harbor, especially those not moored to the piers and then ask why and how they also incinerated.

The whole thing stinks to high heaven for many reasons, and getting bogged down in questions of DEW and lasers and the like is a distraction from the reality of the hundreds and possibly thousands of lives lost and the very great possibility that the fires were deliberately set which would make this a mass murder…far beyond the deaths in Vegas when Pelletier was the Chief of Police there and now here in Maui…perhaps it is a coincidence? A weird concatenation of events that magically happened, and the observer should just move along…nothing to see here folks…

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mygirl....maybe
August 17, 2023 12:56 pm

Note to self: If Pelletier moves into town, I move out.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Mygirl....maybe
August 17, 2023 3:27 pm

Moneycircus made a nice very long list of coinkydinks. It includes resident Dr Kathi Forti’s eyewitness account. It’s quite a read.

https://moneycircus.substack.com/p/crisis-update-hawaii-islanders-hit

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Mary Christine
August 17, 2023 3:36 pm

Here is an update from Moneycircus

By sending children home from school, officials caused their death. Almost all the children from Lahainaluna housing district are dead, according to resident Tennile Bruggeman
Can the disaster be due to incompetence, yet the response be so coordinated, competently suppressing reporting and protest, the use of drone cameras and banners?

https://moneycircus.substack.com/p/crisis-update-maui-land-grab-explains

BL
BL
  Mary Christine
August 17, 2023 4:45 pm

As I posted earlier today, the children were out of school. Major child sacrifice for the satanists.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  BL
August 17, 2023 5:53 pm

Those who espouse and promote the WEF agenda are soulless. They consider the average person as less than cattle, livestock, and loss of children’s lives means nothing to them, the agenda is what counts and lives lost are not to be grieved, rather, they are celebrated because those destroyed clear the way for the promotion and creation of their agenda…

BL
BL
  Mygirl....maybe
August 17, 2023 6:17 pm

Which is, as I have explained a hundred times, the way they make all that generational wealth for themselves. They destroy , buy on the cheap, then sell back to the people/family of those who lost it all. In the case of Maui, no peasants/natives allowed.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  BL
August 17, 2023 7:45 pm

They prefer sacrifice by fire, and then the ritual is given more power by all the media coverage.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  Mygirl....maybe
August 17, 2023 7:42 pm

Exactly my girl. The arguments are a planned distraction to keep people from using that same energy to DO something to stop this from continuing instead.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Vigilant
August 17, 2023 7:57 pm

The arguments are a planned distraction to keep people from using that same energy to DO something to stop this from continuing instead.

Yeah. Just to keep you hero’s from saving the world. We interrupted you while you were doing it, right?

But here you still are wasting your energy, even though you figured out our diabolical plan. Why?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mygirl....maybe
August 17, 2023 7:50 pm

The arsenal of weaponry both ‘secret’ and ‘known’, at the disposal of the USSA military is staggering.

Wait, are they secret weaponry or not? You seem to suggest you know about them.

What are they? And if you know, how are they secret?

why was the water turned off?

Can you even show it was “turned off”? Are you saying it was done intentionally? If yes, do you have ANY proof? Not speculation, not rumor, proof.

Carl Cunningham
Carl Cunningham
  Whatever
August 17, 2023 1:23 pm

Not anti dew.

No DEW evidence at Lahaina.
A distinction you can’t discern.

So stfu dipshit.

DEW-bea bros
DEW-bea bros
  Carl Cunningham
August 17, 2023 4:51 pm

Prove it carl. Where is the undisputed truth? TV news, controlled MSM?

kfg
kfg
  KJ
August 17, 2023 12:10 pm

It is possible for the fires to have been desired and allowed to propagate without having been intentionally started.

Guess what one of the big stories was one year ago?
Wildfires in Maui. They happen. Often. All you have to do is wait a bit.

KJ
KJ
  kfg
August 17, 2023 12:15 pm

Yeah, it’s possible. But, based on the response of the authorities and the clamoring from different entities – including the state of Hawaii – to buy up the properties, I believe they were started intentionally to effect an agenda.

kfg
kfg
  KJ
August 17, 2023 12:37 pm

Maui is to be made a model for smart communities and Lahaina, with its historical protections preventing that sort of development, was standing in the way.

Now it is not and will be new development from the ground up.

TankerA
TankerA
  KJ
August 17, 2023 4:10 pm

Not “posible”
The event was factual.
Not fantastical.

KJ
KJ
  TankerA
August 17, 2023 5:04 pm

Factual, fantastical… What the fuck are you talking about, birdbrain?

TankerA
TankerA
  KJ
August 19, 2023 6:17 pm

KJ-The one who lacks knowledge of common word definitions, and hurls epithets as a result.

kfg
kfg
August 17, 2023 10:45 am

“How in the world did the Maui firestorms miss this mysteriously unscathed house and property?! ”

Karl Denninger ‘splains it: https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=249518

mark
mark
  kfg
August 17, 2023 12:00 pm

Whata ya gonna DEW kfg…nobeam is perfect!

BL
BL
  mark
August 17, 2023 6:40 pm

Earlier today right under Mark, I posted that house belongs to some union big wig that lives in Cali.

Union, mafia, coinky-dink. No.

kfg
kfg
  BL
August 17, 2023 7:43 pm

The next door burned houses didn’t belong to Starbucks baristas.

BL
BL
  kfg
August 17, 2023 10:48 pm

Mafia courtesy.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
August 17, 2023 7:27 pm

Psttt. Hey, mark, take a look.

OMG, LOOK mark :
https://static.dw.com/image/66552200_1004.webp

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 8:59 pm

Who upped this?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
September 15, 2023 6:56 pm

Hilarious troll!

Dying Sun
Dying Sun
August 17, 2023 10:58 am

Which means that the most ironclad cases are built with a panoply of circumstantial, anecdotal and prima facie evidence.

Circumstantial and anecdotal evidence are not sufficient for the claims the author is making. They wrongly murdered women in Salem using that sort of evidence. The author is using the same “fear porn” tactics that the left does when it spreads misinformation such as “globull” warming.

Gaolloag
Gaolloag
August 17, 2023 11:40 am

Ah, here it is:

“Here’s how the NWO pyroterrorists started and spread the MAUI firestorms”

When it concerns any complex crime scene like Lahaina, it’s never about the what happened, 

Summing up:

“Since we do not have proof let’s stop looking at the evidence.”

Jdog
Jdog
August 17, 2023 12:13 pm

We have seen FJB ignore disaster after disaster here in the US while pumping tens of billions of dollars into Ukraine.
FJB has his dick balls deep in the ass of every American Citizen, and they are all too cowardly to say shit about it.

Gaolloag
Gaolloag
August 17, 2023 12:19 pm

First, because we all know the perps are expert at both creating physical evidence out of thin air, and then planting it wherever it best builds their case against an innocent patsy or for a false narrative. Who doesn’t know how very easy it is to manufacture what is legally known as “real evidence” for virtually any crime committed under the sun?  Just remember the completely innocent and set up Lee Harvey Oswald!

The fact denier Schedule:

Monday: The government are incompetent.
Tuesday: The government are diabolic genius masterminds.
Wednesday: The government are incompetent.
Thursday: Diabolic criminal masterminds, again.
Friday: Incompetent again.

Summing up:
The government are geniuses when the story calls for it, and incompetent when the story requires it.

piearesquared
piearesquared
  Gaolloag
August 17, 2023 4:02 pm

The government doesn’t do false flag operations; the NWO/Deep State does. I don’t know yet for sure that the Maui fire was deliberate, but if it was, it wasn’t done by the government. Only some relatively small portions of the government are part of the NWO/Deep State (portions of several of the 3-letter agencies, the State Department, etc). The NWO is not incompetent. They are running circles around the sheeple, and they are going to achieve their Great Reset/Agenda 2030 goals.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  piearesquared
August 17, 2023 6:35 pm

“The government doesn’t do false flag operations”
Jesus fuck…….I GIVE UP

DEW-bea bros
DEW-bea bros
  Administrator
August 17, 2023 4:51 pm

Club member.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  DEW-bea bros
September 15, 2023 6:57 pm

Are those instructions?

Tony LV
Tony LV
August 17, 2023 2:11 pm

There are definitely some weird anomalies to be found. It is very odd that they blocked the people in on Front street when there was no other way out, or shut off the water in the midst of the fire. But at the same time, remember on September 11, some people were apparently warned not to go to work that day; well, there has been not a single instance of anyone saying they were told to get out of Lahaina before it hit. These same officials likely had at least some acquaintances if not kin living or working in the area.

SOTN is always coming up with these “great” theories of what conspiracies occurred during major events. The problem is that all their sourced links go to another one of their articles. No doubt there are nefarious things going on after the fact, but sometimes it is just the “people in charge” simply trying to cover their asses for their ineptitude.

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 17, 2023 2:47 pm

Citizen journalists on social media is our deadly weapon.

TankerA
TankerA
  Anonymous
August 17, 2023 4:06 pm

Our ditzy easily led down rabbit holes and false theories weapon.

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 17, 2023 4:40 pm

HAARP – The Pentagon’s Ultimate Weapon, Whistleblowers Says

HAARP: Weather Control

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
August 17, 2023 5:19 pm

BL
BL
  hardscrabble farmer
August 17, 2023 5:29 pm

The Chinese CCP does the same thing. When the massive floods knocked down the bridges after they diverted the water away from Beijing (and the party members went on vacation) they erected the same barriers so people could not take pictures with their phones.

Ginger
Ginger
  hardscrabble farmer
August 17, 2023 6:39 pm

Breitbart has an interesting article from someone that was in a resort right next to this town and gives an on site time line.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/08/16/on-the-ground-in-maui-a-reporters-first-hand-experience-of-the-disaster-and-the-unanswered-questions/

All the bits now coming out about sirens not being used (tsunami sirens might make people run for the hills like from the first picture there would be no mistake that a fire was coming not a wave), not releasing water to fight the fire, and so forth shows at least in my opinion that most people are too scared to act. This thing took hours to develop. A bulldozer could have knocked down a row of houses to make a fire break, in the San Fran Earthquake and the Chicago Fire they dynamited houses to stop the fire.
A live dog is better than a dead lion.

formerly anonymous
formerly anonymous
  hardscrabble farmer
August 17, 2023 6:43 pm

Fuck the border with Mexico. Prevent illegal tourist immigrant squatters on Maui !

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  hardscrabble farmer
August 18, 2023 12:29 am

Pelletier is the same cop puke who lied and obfuscated and hid evidence about the Vegas mass murders, his action then and his actions now are all about hiding the truth. You do have to hand it to them, they’re real good at keeping the truth from escaping and pushing the false narrative to finish putting the last bricks into the WEF NWO agenda…
Dust screen to hide them covering up the evidence, along with lock downs and strong arming the folk so they can ‘sanitize’ the scene and remove the more damning evidence…like teh bodies of children who were trapped in the fires after they had been sent home early from school…

The convention also exempts certain categories of munitions from its definition of incendiary weapons: specifically, these are munitions which “may have incidental incendiary effects, such as illuminants, tracers, smoke or signalling systems” and those “designed to combine penetration, blast or fragmentation effects with an additional incendiary effect.”

https://www.bing.com/search?pglt=41&q=phosphorus+bombs&cvid=514bdca987bb4cab84711b344d5291d6&aqs=edge.0.0j69i64j0l7.8960j0j1&FORM=ANAB01&PC=U531

Vigilant
Vigilant
August 17, 2023 6:55 pm

Our new poll:

A. It’s the Jew World Order

B. It’s the DEW World Order

C. It’s both the Jew & the DEW World Order

D. This poll pisses me off and I’d sure like to do more to you than merely downvote you

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Vigilant
August 17, 2023 9:18 pm

DEW Jew know who did it, or DEW Jew not?

USA Cowboy
USA Cowboy
August 17, 2023 7:59 pm

To all those who say the Government would never do that:
Tuskegee Experiment, giving AIDS to poor Black people in the south
Project Sunshine: Steal corpses
Operation Northwoods: Plan fake terrorist attacks
Operation Paperclip: Hire Nazi scientists
Operation Mockingbird to control the Media narrative and Operation Mockingbird: Spy on reporters
Project Greek Island: Build secret bunkers
Operation CHAOS: Investigate antiwar protests
Stargate Project: Investigate psychic abilities

Treatment with LSD. Unfortunately my own Father was subjected to this.
So sad. So many more I could not find and are just plain evil

Turn to God for leadership now.

Mad Celt
Mad Celt
August 17, 2023 8:25 pm

You think the same government, too stupid to properly handle health care insurance, could successfully pull something like this off?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mad Celt
August 17, 2023 8:33 pm

Some do.

I think it is called “Pretzel Logic”

Nothing to do with pretzels and definitely nothing to do with logic.

KaD
KaD
August 17, 2023 10:06 pm