MAUI MASSACRE INFLECTION POINT:
The turning of the tide
has finally begun
Submitted by Maui Massacre Investigation Team
Something very BIG has happened!
The highly calculated and cold-blooded execution of OPERATION TORCH MAUI has awakened people across the planet to the massacres that have been systematically carried out over decades by the New World Order globalist cabal.
Much more importantly, the weather wars and DEW warfare being waged against humanity for many years has been exposed as never before. So much hard evidence of intentional mass murder was quickly recovered at the Maui crime scene that such a genocide could no longer be denied.
The sheer enormity and gravity of the manmade Maui firestorms, and their extreme consequences for all Mauians, has made a very deep and indelible impression on folks around the globe.
Who on planet Earth hasn’t been victimized to some degree
by these barbaric acts of geoterrorism, pyroterrorism
and geoengineering?!
The shock and awe of the Maui conflagration has profoundly impacted a critical mass of the collective human consciousness and in so doing has clued populations everywhere into the awesomely devastating effects of Directed Energy Weapons.
Make no mistake:
MAUI IS THE WAKEUP CALL FOR HUMANITY.
Our time has finally arrived to terminate these savage mass casualty events perpetrated by the NWO cabal. For they only become more and more emboldened with each successive mass murder they seemingly get away with. Which means that We the People must rise up and stop this cataclysmic madness.
CLIMATEGEDDON Exposed
Using geoengineered weather catastrophes to scare humanity into the pen of compliance with the cabal’s crazy climate agenda has especially been exposed by the Maui massacre.
It’s entirely true that those unsuspecting residents, who were completely unaware of the dangers around them on August 8, 2023, unwittingly sacrificed themselves for the their fellow human beings. Therefore, it’s incumbent upon the living to make their sacrifice one with swift and sure consequences for their criminally insane and psychopathic murderers. Maui truth-tellers must ensure that their horrific deaths will continue to awaken people everywhere to the horrors associated with the utterly treacherous Global Warming geoterrorists.
Many more souls are now aware that the cabal will do anything and everything to advance their New World Order agenda via their long planned Climate Change mandates. What better way than to perpetrate one MCE after another in order to terrorize nations large and small onto their idiocracy reservation overseen by a tyranically constructed One World Government.
MCE = Mass Casualty Event
After all, Climate Change and Violent Weather have been so made the New Normal that they can now be methodically used to terrorize every inhabitant on Earth. And so they have done. Until now!
SOTN expects to see a sea change throughout the entire world community of nations where it concerns this exceedingly important matter after the MAUI MASSACRE, especially when open letters like this are sent to the most courageous truth-telling POTUS candidates in 2023.
An Urgent Open Letter to
Robert Kennedy & Ron DeSantis
SOTN Editor’s Note: All SOTN readers are highly encouraged to circulate this important initiative: MAUI MASSACRE INVESTIGATION TEAM SLOWLY FORMING NATIONWIDE
Recommended Reading for All Maui Residents
MAUIGEDDON PSYOP: They got away with it—AGAIN!
Reference
MAUI MASSACRE: HARD PROOF OF GLADIO-STYLE, FALSE FLAG PYROTERRORISM
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The death cult has to get their human sacrifice one way or another.
An offering to their Dark Archon masters.
“So much hard evidence …”
Yet you offered none? Not much investigation in the “Investigation Team”
Do BL and mark work for SOTN? Would explain much.
Hey mark. How is that “fire-ring” research coming?
And can you clarify? Are DEW beams visible or invisible to the naked eye?
Anonywhoo
BL and mark have every right to draw whatever conclusions they see in the evidence.
Whereas I mostly disagree, I respect their right to hold any view they choose.
At this point, we have laid out our arguments, and neither side is budging.
Time, might provide an absolute answer, or it may not.
But I see no need to be snarky just because.
When choosing snarky, there should be a reason.
Whatevs.
Snarky?
How about tired of their endless evasions? Clear inability to accept that they could ever be mistaken? Arrogant assertions backed by nothing but their delusions of understanding? Massive hypocrisy?
So if I am a bit terse with the two leading fucktards here, please excuse me. My patience with them is done. Fuck them.
Those are reasons.
Perhaps sometimes, when we come up against those with rigid minds, persuasion must take another form.
Also, it is a fair time to examine our own inflexibility toward another’s views and whether our responses are based on facts or reflexes.
____
The long approach frowns upon beating up the listener.
Ideas are like seeds.
They only sprout in minds that are fertile.
Sometimes a fallow mind will turn fertile.
Sometimes a fertile mind will turn fallow.
The long approach.
Or not.
Peace.
Do you really think there is any chance of reaching mark or BL?
Have you seen any sign of humility, self reflection or even the slightest effort to examine alternative views from their own?
Please do as you like, but when stupid arrogant fucktards make it clear that they will defiantly remain stupid arrogant fucktards, I won’t waste my time doing much other than pointing out when they are being stupid arrogant fucktards. Expecting them to change seems silly.
So I will just post my views on their stupid arrogant fucktardism, whenever I see it.
I know that I have held the exact same views.
I understand why people believe.
I have changed, and made my mind over by inventing thinking and memory techniques which amazingly, worked and unlocked access to my lifetime memorires.
I finally saw, that over my lifetime, I have worn many hats, and carried many banners, but I never found peace until I started putting my self imposed burdens down along with all the banners and burdens foisted on me by others.
People are always changing.
The beliefs one holds at age 5,are not usually the same at age 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, on up.
Once I realized my beliefs are always in flux, I was able to unbury my heals, and resume my forward progess.
Mark and BL are not the enemy.
I think they are just at a different location on the same road we are all on.
______
This scene reminds me of some of the conversations here at TBP:
No, they are not.
I just loath stupid arrogant fucktards. They speak opinion and bullshit as fact. They claim to know with certainty the unknowable. Pretty stupid, arrogant and fucktardish…..
I have been guilty of holding exactly the same views.
If we all were forced to live by our words, or the stands we took on various hills, I’m afraid many of us would not like it.
Dude…your head is going to explode…try decafe…drink a beer…take a pill.
Do you think we are the only two here who see the DEW weapons and attacks for what they really?
Relax, debate, stop the personal attacks.
Good morning Mark!
Morning Eud…not my down vote by the way…
Why someone would down vote a greeting to someone else is beyond my understanding???
Why someone would down vote
People must think those votes matter, or they hurt or help, or something. Haven’t really attempted to unwind that.
It’s nice when they are up but there really is no other ‘get’ out of them.
mark & all,
I’m on team DEW. I’ve done hours and hours of research, I’ve paid my dues, ha. I’ve found documentation, I saved some, but I have no time or desire to look it up and post it for the idiots who don’t dig deep enough.
Someone, troll or not, will always attack the truth or the truth-teller or both. But eventually the truth always wins.
Team DEW here too. Haha, “wildfires” that only burn homes and cars. Nothing nefarious going on at all. /s
Dewped mind thinks forest fires and wildfires are the same thing.
DOH!
You should totally go the carnival shooting gallery.
I heard they are giving away dewpie dolls as prizes.
Knobjob alert:
I’m on team DEW. I’ve done hours and hours of research, I’ve paid my dues, ha. I’ve found documentation, I saved some, but I have no time
Stop personally stating bullshit.
Actually answer questions posed directly.
Or, just fuck off and die. I am OK either way.
No one gives a shit what you think anonypuss!
So you take the time to say so?
Odd. Kind of suggests you do.
Right?
Those two are attached at thecdewps.
Of course hard heads sometimes need a mallet to crack
Sugar, Anon aka: asshole…you can take your impatience and GTFO…and leave room for the intelligent folk to comment, you just waste space and time…
Well that wasn’t a waste of space or time at all…
Umm, what are you looking for here? An argument? A lashback for aka: asshole?
Then go away Mr Dick.
The claim of hard evidence is all the hard evidence you need. Get with the program, dewnier.
I works for the dems all the time – they just have to say “hard evidence” and dimacrats believe.
Upvote for DEWnier!
Clever!
I love clever wordplay and mashups.
If you say “hard evidence” three times in a row, “Betelgeuse” will appear.
Yo, Anon asshole, try this on and then open your troll bot mouth…
https://www.afrl.af.mil/Portals/90/Documents/RD/Directed_Energy_Futures_2060_Final29June21_with_clearance_number.pdf
And…
. The Air Force Directed Energy Directorate Research Laboratory is located in Maui. They do things like mounting powerful lasers in aircraft and developed the CHAMP high-powered microwave system. Their director says he’s proud they’ve “built and field-tested 10 new systems that didn’t exist before 2016.”
https://www.afrl.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/3061179/directed-energy-leader-recaps-time-in-afrl-looks-ahead-to-space-position/
There’s TONS of evidence this was an attack on the citizens that opposed the “build back better” initiative to make Maui the first “smart island”, which Hawaii’s puppet politicians have been pushing. It’s the same “15-minute chity” concentration camps they want to stick us in where we’ll own nothing and happily eat the bugs.
And…
KanekoaTheGreat:
Over 2,700 structures were destroyed in Lahaina, Maui, valued at approximately $5.6 billion.
Meanwhile, President Joe Biden, with $115 billion sent to Ukraine, offers just $1.9 million ($700 per household) to Lahaina.
This is deeply insulting.
Maui Police Chief John Pelletier
was the incident commander during the
Las Vegas massacre in 2017, the worst mass shooting in American history. An incident commander is the top decision maker during a major incident. Their job is to delegate tasks and listen to input from subject matter experts to ultimately bring the incident to resolution.
Ryan Kawailani Ozawa:
Maui Police Chief John Pelletier came to Hawaii after 22 years in Las Vegas.
He was incident commander for the 2017 mass shooting that left over 50 dead…..
On Monday, Hawaii’s Democrat Governor Josh Green announced that his administration is actively considering acquiring properties in Lahaina
that have been devastated by recent wildfires.
….Unsettling attention of developers looking to capitalize on their tragedy.
Less than a week after the catastrophic event, Ms. Kaililaau received a Facebook message from someone in real estate.
Kaililaau, along with other residents, had been warned via social media that developers might try to buy their land, so she ignored the message.
Exactly what are you countering, addressing, whinging about?
Quote what I said that made you hysterical please.
Or is this just and unhinged and angry outburst?
-6 and no reply.
🙂
Yeah. I think we have an answer.
Wrong. Vegas was a staged event. no one died. That cat is way out of the bag.
Hey, Girl! Nice to see you pop in now and then!
I pop in, do a smack down and then head back to work….I couldn’t help myself with the infestation of anon trolls infesting this thread…
I trust all is well with you…keep the faith and rattle the rafters…I’m heartened to see you haven’t let the illigitimi non corborundum…
Cheers…
Would that be the one where you bravely run away from;
That smackdown? 🙂
What smackdown?
Posting a bunch a copy paste DEW “evidence” produced at Langley that never quite prove anythig for sure?
Good job!
Dew get em tiger!
Memes are now scientific proof.
This meme supports the folks who want to call it the DEW World Order.
No one except the highly retarded believe that dewper weapons were used in Hawaii.
Pure speculation coupled with zero wildfire science experience, equals “Rhodes Scholar” to the twin Dewps.
AGAIN, not one of the attackers of the issues presented by Mark and BL could lucidly converse about DEW and list what all the signature proofs of DEW weaponry ARE, can you?
Why doesn’t that make them arrogant babies whining nyah nyah you haven’t shown the hard evidence when they don’t have a clue what the hard evidence IS!!!!!!!
What, precisely and without assumption and conjecture, ARE the “signature proofs”?
What are you using as a comparison for the “signature proofs”?
Happy to rationally debate and explore, as long as you stick to actual and proven facts. Have ANY?
So downvotes and no “signature proofs”?
Explain please. Was it the “without assumption and conjecture” that is the problem? 🙂
So downvotes and no “signature proofs”? Again?
Kind of makes it look like you folk are full of shit.
I mean, how fucking hard is it for you to make me look stupid? Too hard? What does that say?
I see dew have posted your birthday gift request.
You sure that’s all dew want?
Neither mark nor BL can lucidly converse about wildfire science.
Probably afraid it will out out THEIR erroneous leap and prove they were dewped.
Not one will step forward?
No “Signature Proofs”?
LOL. Seriously, nobody?
There aren’t any.
Just two stooges copying and pasting from other dewps.
Seems that way.
Odd the “experts” can’t put together a list of these “Signature Proofs”.
Yet they still claim them as “proof”.
They’re brave when they’re anomynous.
Yes, Joe, and if they talked smack about TLPTB, then maybe would be tolerated more.
But lately a few are ripping on platform regulars.
Best left ignored.
Even downvotes they reap give them validity and the badge-of-honor attention they crave.
Total disregard, as irrelevant to a discussion when they spew venom and sow discord.
Just pass them by.
Refuse to acknowledge them.
Deprive them of any semblance of attention.
If they won’t take a known screen ID, their critique is mere excrement. Step around it.
And? So?
Should regulars be babied and treated only with support for their lies and stupidity? Are they somehow above questioning to you?
Even if they caught Joe Biden with a lit flare and a can of gasoline lighting fires, democrat communists would still give him their full support. Stupid is an uncurbable malady. Don’t be to disheartened when you find out this doesn’t change a thing. The end goal is Covid type lock downs on steroids.
The end goal, I fear, is the removal of 7.5 billion useless eaters.
Lebensraum .
It’s a Climate Emergency! What freedoms and rights does everyone lose now? Our system and the people living in it will be crushed slowly to destroy our system and usher in the reset. China’s authoritarian system is the role model for tyrants everywhere. Soon there will be a CBDC and without accepting it life will become very hard. Food? Gasoline? bring some gold or silver to the store? I think I should say system a few more times.
Were The Maui “Wildfires” Caused by Directed Energy Weapons?
The official Mockingbird narrative blamed strong Hurricane Dora winds for the the series of unprecedented wildfires.
As of this writing, the MSM are claiming at least 80 people have died, and around 1,700 buildings were destroyed.
Hawaii Democrat Governor Josh Green stated that this is the largest natural disaster in the state’s history, concluding:
It does appear like a bomb and fire went off, if I may. And all of those buildings virtually are going to have to be rebuilt.
What if it was not a bomb that went off, but, rather, a Directed Energy Weapon (DEW) was deployed to transform this tropical paradise into a future dystopian UN project?
The resort town of Lahaina was the most devastated, and offers the most important clues as to the true nature behind this devastation.
Here are the before and after images:
https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/were-the-maui-wildfires-caused-by
No one does anything about the Evil Fucker plan until its too late (at least that is the historical precedent.)
Autos-da-fe for the B3RG* and their tools is the only appropriate response to the continual horrors of the demonic murderous programme.
Hypersonic and directed-energy weapons: Who has them, and who’s winning the race in the Asia-Pacific?
MELBOURNE, Australia, ISLAMABAD, NEW DELHI, and WASHINGTON — A number of countries in the Asia-Pacific region are caught up in the global hypersonic and directed-energy weapons race, with these regional powers having either developed or publicly stated intentions to develop such technology.
Defense News has contacted regional government and military officials, businesses, and analysts to find out who is keeping pace in the worldwide contest.
https://www.defensenews.com/global/asia-pacific/2021/03/15/hypersonic-and-directed-energy-weapons-who-has-them-and-whos-winning-the-race-in-the-asia-pacific/
Air Force Harnessing the Power of Directed Energy
The U.S. Air Force has an unprecedented power to direct energy in a way that serves, protects and champions freedom. From powerful electromagnetics to electro-optics, they are always exploring new ways to give our warfighters the upper-hand.
Harnessing the power of the electromagnetic spectrum to enable Airmen to effectively and affordably strike critical targets at the speed of light.
Directed Energy also enables experimentation, prototyping and exploration of materiel and non-materiel solutions that align with force capabilities and strategies. Learn more.
https://www.military.com/video/air-force-harnessing-power-directed-energy
Search ‘DEW Market’. It’s a big one.
It’s not only microwave or heat weapons.
It’s the new form of “Druish Lightning”. And as for Emperor Joe “Nero” Biden he can burn Maui down, his people get the property for 10 cents on the dollar, and blame us “soverigns” for the fire.
Aloha motherfuckers !
I used to own land on the BI .
Got a offer during the Hawaii over-reaction to the fake virus crisis and gladly sold it.
The greedy state tax office fucked me out of 3500.
My accountant said it was illegal.
Theres your fabled “aloha” !
ALL BULLSHIT.
Just greedy democrat parasites there.
$3,500 US dollars?
Yes……USD|
Might not be a lot for some but I worked my ass off for that money.
Iska, ONLY $3500.00 so far! Zapper got off easy.
Peace, L.
I did a little experiment isolating all the words and phrases from this article that is meant to scare you or make you angry. I’m not concerned if the information is true or false. That’s for you to decide. This is just some word and phrase isolation.
The words and phrases are:
1) cold-blooded execution
2) OPERATION TORCH MAUI
3) massacres
4) New World Order globalist cabal.
5) DEW warfare
6) intentional mass murder
7) genocide
8) geoterrorism, pyroterrorism and geoengineering
9) Directed Energy Weapons
10) cataclysmic madness
11) geoengineered weather catastrophes
12) criminally insane and psychopathic murderers
13) utterly treacherous Global Warming geoterrorists
14) New World Order agenda
15) tyranically constructed One World Government
16) MAUI MASSACRE
Is this article giving you anything useful or is it just a bunch of scary words and phrases thrown together for shock value and clicks?
You left out “Maui Massacre Investigation Team” !
Fucking hilarious !
DEW Particle Beam Ghost Buster Squadron
You can run , but you can’t hide !!
Literally yesterday I would have mostly agreed with the latter part of your question. Today however, I fully disagree with the latter part of your question. You see I read the most unbelievable article so-much-so I thought it was fake news. Did you know the water company shut off the water so people could not use water to put of the fire? Yep that actually happened. The excuse the governor gave was that this was a long standing issue with the water company because they didn’t want fresh water used for putting out house fires! Imagine this: Some fuck head at the water company told his staff to shut off the water during such a tragic event. Why such an order was given? I cannot say for sure but it was a genocide nonetheless and flat out murder at worst. What kind of psycopath would do this?
The DEW weapon heated up the water supply and caused it to evaporate.
DEW microwave 5G technology causes the human brain to not process information accurately causing poor decision making.
This is the most important event to happen since 9/11 and we will all perish if we don’t rise up immediately put a stop to this evil !!
OMFG. Another assertion with zero backing.
Dude….. calm down.
Look up the definition of sarcasm.
Plus… somebody already upvoted it.
How funny is that?!
Best to put a /s on it in that case. I can’t see you smirk across the internet.
And yes, credulous idiots are hilarious.
Yea…..probably should have.
Another assertion with zero backing.
And then if you ask for more proof the reply is either an instant copy paste wall five miles long, or an insult that you are stupid, or satanic, and you are going to burn in hell forever because you didnt bow down to their false god in their image.
“I copy pasted my entire spiel…I mean proof”
True Christians.
Praise duh lawd
Let us pray,
Dear Lord, please save us from your followers. Amenhotep.
Intentionally? You actually know that they did this ON PURPOSE? No other possible explanation?
And you can prove this, right?
BTW, what input do water pumps require to pump water?
“Did you know the water company shut off the water so people could not use water to put of the fire? “
That’s quite an assertion.
Got anybevidence?
Here is my alternate theory to “they shut the water off”:
Water pumps are typically 3 phase 480volts electric motors.
The power, which ignited the flames, eventually shut itself off or was manually shut off.
After the power was shut off, the water pumps stopped pumping water.
Occams and it fits the parameters on the ground.
_____
What I find amazing about these type conspiracies is how our widely known for its broad incompetence government, instantly morphs into a bunch of diabolical geniuses whose careful detailed planning succeeded in fooling all the ‘sheeple’.
Perfect.
And will zoom right over the raving fucktard heads unnoticed and unappreciated.
Maui is the wake up call for humanity, scoff at your own peril.
Yes, develop a top secret weapon and use it to kill innocent people and destroy real estate in Maui, so Oprah and Jeff Bezos can buy more of it on the cheap.
DO NOT use it on Russia or Ukraine or Iran or Iraq or N. Korea or the goat herders in Afghanistan or the Cartels in Mexico.
Actually, they do use it in war zones, the kicker is usually against civilians.
Oh look. Another unbacked assertion.
http://www.idstch.com/technology/photonics/directed-energy=weapons-market/
404.
Jesus. You even fuck that up.
It’s not me asshole, go to idst home page, right hand tool bar is archives and on June 2023 (page 5) you can read the article or in your case just watch the video. It is not about civilians but the video can even help a moron understand DEW’s.
I doubt you will understand anything on that site but I repeat myself.
You post a 404 page, then this, and then call ME a moron?
You are clearly far too stupid to know you are stupid. Carry on.
So this addresses;
???
Your treasure map instructions from the 404 fuckup you posted don’t work either.
Exactly why did you not make a direct link to whatever it was?
Blahblah archives…devoid moron.
So what was your link supposed to prove BL?
It is a excellent video of DEW capability, June 2023 page 5, photonic/directed energy weapons, watch video.
Is there anything supporting;
Like actual evidence of it happening?
Anon- Do you think DoD puts video of people killed by microwave out? Lahaina was an example but you will forever believe the official narrative of forest fire. Either you get paid to be a believer or you are not very bright.
Attacking the messengers won’t make this go away, they intend to keep using DEW’s against the world’s population.
They have poisoned your food and water, spray you with toxins poisoning the air you breath, bullied and coerced you to accept bioweapon shots that have killed and maimed millions and you call me out over pointing out death by DEW? You must not be human, bot maybe?
Hey Eud, ^^^^^^^^^
See what I mean?
BL, you could have just said, “No, I don’t have actual evidence of it happening”.
Instead, evasion, stating what I believe (wrongly, so BTW Fuck you 2x), baseless assertion of what “they” intend, irrelevant to subject rambling……
^^^^^^ Nothing to see here, troll carrying water for the TLPTB.
Sickening.
Yes BL, you outed me. My masters commanded me to spend my time keeping the Super Aware of All Our Secrets BL engaged.
They really wanted to take you out Kennedy style, but I argued that I might be able to bullshit and baffle you into irrelevance and insignificance among your followers.
Seems I failed. Suppose plan B is next. Sorry.
Ahrgggg. FFS.
OK BL, the boss told me, to tell you, that they are really not coming for you.
Stay put. You are perfectly safe.
Really worried that BL took me seriously. I hope he knows I was joking and did not do a runner.
That would make it very hard for the splat squad to find him.
Kidding. ( or not, who knows?)
If YOU are not with us, YOU are agin’ us.
US being humanity.
I hate to say it but after running through the comment section, rife with dipshits posting anonymously, I can understand why readership is down. Puerile dross and garbage verbiage abound. At least some of the old timers are posting intelligent and informative comments.
The mostly anons seem to be getting paid by the CIA et al and those ‘intelligence’ organizations really need to up their hiring standards…of else get better bots…
Oh, look, more unsupported paranoid delusion. (or is it?)
I know, proof of BOT. (Or is that just what they want you to think?)
Now, are you being manipulated by a meatsack into thinking I am a Bot or am I silicon doing this to convince you I am not a Bot? Or is it a couple of layers deeper? Multiples of both?
Readership is down because of these wild science fantasy doom porn articles. Do the math, if people agreed and were into this shit readership would go up.
Pretty sure the CIA has bigger fish to fry than fiddle fuck around with this place.
Got any Mexicans squatting on your Texarkana tumbleweed ranch?
Thanks Boss. That should help convince them. Langley Lūʻau still on tonight?
LOL.
Fools posting anonymously expecting responses are merely proving their fool status…
Who did you respond to?
You may have uncovered a backhanded way to try and measure true world death rates anon.
Wouldn’t it be interesting if one could look at total world internet traffic and calculate the total number of living people on earth.
I just bet there is someone who could crunch such numbers.
In Missouri we have a saying…”Fuck you!”
Otherwise peace and love
OH for fuck sake. That is exactly what a bot would say.
(yes, speeling errors are inteshunal part of the manipulation)
“The mostly anons seem to be getting paid by the CIA”
Yeah, but at least our source isn’t a CIA Agent, like Mark’s link above.
So that’s one point for the non-delusional team.
Fuck off bl
Yeah
Piss off BL
Bl?
Shut up moran!
“If YOU are not with us, YOU are agin’ us.”
That has to be the most hyperbolic statement mankind has ever made.
Wink.
Hi Eud.
Please quote for clarity. After a few posts, they are all in a line.
Idiot bl
.
We are all government agents. Everyone. No exceptions.
I like the melted cars and trees still standing with leaves.
Yep, that happens all the time with “wildfires”! /s
It actually does fuckwads.
“Nothing to see here, troll carrying water for the TLPTB.”
The Borg calling humans the borg!
I just want to thank the new people I have never seen before.
You guys are going to feed the delusions of the insane here very well.
Now insane folk, are these bots, real people, socks or other? 🙂
Stand clear of BL.
TPTB may be targeting him with a case of Mountain Dew.
Stand too close and you might get clocked on the head with a case of soda, dropped from amilitary plane.
Will the real slim brainy please shut up?
Anon?
You called it.
These idiots will figure it out eventually BL. Takes some folks a bit longer to connect the dots!
Scott and BL piss off
These idiots will figure it out eventually BL. Takes some folks a bit longer to connect the dots.
Surely you meant “connect the DEWs”?
Attacking the messengers
Yoda “The self awareness is weak in this one”
Luke “Yoda, I can vouch for BL!”
Yoda “No. He’s gone over to the DEWped side”
Hello PTB?
If you are gonna kill everyone, please start at BL’s end?
He is dewper dangerous.
Put together by a bunch of moron high school dropouts.
No it isn’t .
And what does it haveto do with a mixed/urban/wildfire?
You guys are so insistent on dragging your dead horse theory around.
Looks exhausting hauling around that broken down clunker.
Oh well, everyone gets their DEW rewards.
LOL. The irony.
Bl probably has a lifetime subscription to the National Enquirer.
Dude…you are sooooooo butt hurt…here put this on….
Dude…” butt hurt” is sooooooo Mygirl maybe.
F for originality.
Butt…an A for accuracy!
No thankyou mark.
I saw BL and Scott putting their lips on it.
I have no idea what they were DEWing, but it looked gross and unsanitary.
DEWped again eh?
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/clue
No they dont.
Maybe you wrong.
Actually, they do use it in war zones, the kicker is usually against civilians.
How did you determine this Butt Licker?
Yeah, So you say, absent ANY EVIDENCE other than your wild speculation.
And your misintepretation of fire photos.
Just do it.
Nike.
There is no wake up call for the dewped
That is as good as DEWniers.
Well done!
Certainly dewdn’t wake your dum azz up. Ball Licker.
Still as worthless as this morn.
Look like you hit the snooze button on your alarm clock…….ten years ago.
Wake wakey, eggs and bacon!
Reallygraceful has something to say about the Maui firestorm.
Well…well…well. It seems that the cabal can write a book, get it edited, and then published, before the event was even done.
Cocky? Stupid? The realization or at least the thinking that nothing can stop them? You decide.
https://tinyurl.com/3s9zwmbc
Miles Stones!
Someone is being funny over at Langley Script services.
Apparently the author of that book, Dr. Miles Stones, has written 18 books, all of which have been published this year. Looks like AI is writing books now.
Aces and eights
Joey Bag of Dewpers
Milestones.
Obvious nom de plume.
Amazing what a book template and AI can do.
Another Conspiracy Theory that will come true . We will get to the bottom of this when the Warren Commission issues its report. That is when we know the opposite of what they say is factual.
DEWs, SMART METERS, CHEMTRAILS, LACK OF SITUATIONAL AWARENESS ALL ARE FORCE MULTIPLIERS FOR TLPTB AS THEY BURN DOWN AND GRAB THE MAUI LAND
I (and others) have posted FORCE MULTIPLIER ‘Maui DEW evidence from many sources. This evidence happens to be identical to the DEW evidence from past DEW attacks on California, Colorado, Australia (and others) on innocent people…murdering them in their homes and cars while cooking them alive with these heinous weapons.
To deny DEW weapon use at this point in time is to be blind.
Here is a why I believe they were used on Maui:
To not see the use of these horrific weapons being used by TLPTB (L=Luciferian) in all the links I have put up through the photos, vids, eyewitness statements, and expert testimony that DEW weapons can and have melted engine blocks and tire rims in Maui – and that is what we see in Maui – yet leave plastic intact at temperatures measured to be three times that of normal wild fires – and that is what we see in Maui – while leaving trees completely intact surrounding dustified homes (just like 911) and melted cars everywhere – and that is what we see in Maui – while cutting paths through some homes skipping many structures completely as DEW weapons do – and that is what we see in Maui – leaves me astounded this EVIDENCE in this attack and the other past DEW attacks IN THE LINKS I POSTED is ignored or excused away by some!
Focus on the DEW FORCE MULTIPLIER evidence not the other contributing factors…if not you are missing the intact forest…for the Operation Mocking Bird trees…every pun intended.
Oh yea and No Name butt hurt Polly want a cracker limp retort when he finally contributes something besides bumper sticker insults is: “Cars are extremely flammable”. Go away mealy mouth lightweight.
Then there is the Smart meter evidence that has been documented to have the capability to set houses on fire that is being shoved down our throats…it will be interesting to find out how many Maui homes had that ‘Force Multiplier’ New World Order fire bomb on their wall? Don’t underestimate that interconnected tactic…and don’t ever let them put one on your home!
I am reminded of a few friends I have known. We were walking around under the sky filled with a giant white tic tack toe board as TLPTB spray poisons on us like we are nothing but frigg’in bugs in their Death Cult Depop War against all of us. I told them to look up…and they either excused it away with a shrug, said it is just contrails…or like some here attack the messenger and call me a right wingnut conspiracy theorist…while following ‘Operation Mocking Bird’ to the letter.
Speaking of Chemtrails they are also another WILD FIRE – FORCE MULTIPLIER used by the same people poisoning us with them on all the supposed Wild Fires…maybe Maui…no way to know…but why not…these people are mass murderers and now they are out in the open with their needle rides…same human demons.
We are in a war…and many different weapons are being used against us!
Was Maui another ‘FIRENADO’?
ALUMINUM DUST FROM GEOENGINEERING FUELING SUPER WILDFIRES ACCORDING TO AUTHOR
06 Sep, 2018, 08:38 ET
While researching for his new novel, author Denis Mills discovered an alarming link between chemtrails and the super wildfires.
The author discovered that unprecedented levels of aluminum and barium nanodust, primary components in chemtrails, both of which are incendiary, are fueling the ferocity of the super wildfires.
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Aluminum-fueled super wildfire
A retired USAF brigadier general, Gen. Charles Jones, has been quoted from a public source as stating, “These white aircraft spray trails are the result of scientifically verifiable spraying of aluminum particles and other toxic heavy metals, polymers and chemicals.”
“Millions of tons of aluminum and barium are being sprayed almost daily across the U.S., stated Mills, a former naval officer and UCLA graduate. “Just sprinkle aluminum or barium dust on a fire and see what happens. It’s near explosive. When wildfires break out, the aluminum/barium dust results in levels of fire intensity so great as to cause firefighters to coin a new term ̶ ‘FIRENADOS’ – he said. The entire U.S., in addition to various other NATO countries, are being sprayed.”
The government has for years denied the existence of chemtrail spraying. It now calls the program by various names, all under Geoengineering.
According to Cal Fire operation Chief Steve Crawford, the fires are burning differently and more aggressively. It has been reported the fires move faster than anyone has ever seen and barriers that in years past contained them such as rivers, no longer do.
In California’s Mt. Shasta region, Francis Mangel, a USDA biologist tested and found elevated levels of aluminum in water and soil samples of 4,610 parts per million which is 25,000 times the safe guidelines of the World Health Organization.
Why waste your time Mark? the bots and paid trolls are running interference for the Luciferians today. Will they call it forest fire when it is a four block area in one of our gutted cities? How will it be forest fire when there is nothing but concrete and pavement. Alien attack maybe? Yeah, that’s the ticket….alien attack. Dead, crispy critter humans don’t matter anymore. These anons have no compassion whatsoever for these humans reduced to ash, none. They make me sick.
That is fucking AWESOME!
If BOT or Troll – working!
If not BOT or Troll – working!
Paranoia, it might just be karma.
BL didn’t say anonymous is a bot or troll (paranoia)…it’s the fuckers that get paid by the Lferians to spew asinine comments and replies to posts, to try to discredit discourse amongst posters seeking meaningful discussions, that are mostly ” anonymous”. MAN UP OR FUCK OFF. (all caps, that means I’m shouting)
Someone did?
Is that you BL? Sounds like you.
Bots and paid trolls is your explanation of comments that don’t agree with you ?
Get some professional help.
Bots and paid trolls is your explanation of comments that don’t agree with you ?
That’s what the truth is shaping up to be.
Mark, BL, Scott and any of the other Dewparians are now married to Dewpintology because of their recalcitrant intransigence.
BL,
I walk my TBP post from flank to flank
And take no miss-direction from any butt hurt rank!
DEW attack evidence is long standing, you and I and many here know that…DEWs (and using Chemtrails to create a FIREANDO) are just Force Multiplier tactics in one component of the Spiritual, Cultural, Political, and Economic War TLPTB are not waging…but RAGING against all us useless eaters.
The Death Cult is in full swing, needle rides, lock downs, masks, GMO poison foods, poison Chemtrails, lawfare, stolen elections, Climate Change Green lies, it is a long list.
Fight the good fight buddy…post what you believe, back it with links, vids, etc. be of good cheer…stay in God’s remenant (He always keeps a remenant) we are living in a time like no other…and one day this is coming!
Surfs UP !!
For about 2 seconds of freefall then BAM.
Mark, they are shameful mouthpieces for the Luciferiian official narrative. It is sickening that 1700 human beings died, that is not concerning to them. You do excellent posts and show the world who is behind this. This war against humans will continue, they are not on humanity’s side.
That is all I have to say today, pick a side folks, they ( TLPTB) are at war against us.
Excuse me you lying fucking cunt, where is this stated by ANYONE?
I saw bl on Tv
He was playing the part of “Chester”
Exact.
My decades old memory had been trying to place those names yesterday.
Thanks.
Fuck off bl
BL is a paid government shill and a shit.
Doubtful. Even the government has higher standards than that.
Biden, Fetterneck.
Have you seen BL posts?
I’ll admit, it is a tough call.
Is this what you like ButtLicker?
People shitting all over the:comment section?
“Everyone who doesn’t believe in my delusions is satanic and will burn in hell forever… oh and God is love.”
Sounds like a normal average Christian.
God Bless Dew!
Mark,
Can I assume there was a time when you weren’t all in on chemtrails/DEW weapons?
Point is,I assune there was a time you did not believe all these things, and now you do
It is possible, you will change your mind again later?
Or do you see your current world view remaining static for the duration?
I used to see myself as this tower of stability as far as my beliefs were concerned. Then? I started asking questions.
Now I can, change directions easily if need be….upon receipt of convincing TO ME info.
______
A rough analogy.
One day I was looking at a rubiks cube.
And it occured to me, I can only see three sides at any given time.
To see the other sides I needed to turn the cube.
Unless I turned the cube, my viewpoint was incomplete, and liable to erroneous assumptions about what may be on those other sides.
Until I turned it around and looked at it from all sides, I could never confidently say “I know.”
_______
Comic relief:
Everbody Loves Raymond
Debra: Oh, God. Okay! Okay! What do you want me to say? That I’m better than you? Fine! I am better!
Marie: [chuckles] I was right!
Debra: Yep! Yep! You got me! You know, I was never sure if it was true, but this, tonight I really have to thank you all. ‘Cause you’ve made it crystal clear you’re all nuts!
Robert: [to Ray] Good job, man.
Marie: That was wonderful.
Debra: So you’re happy that I think I’m better than you?
Marie: Not happy. I’m just glad we got this out. It’s good to know. And now we know.
Ray: [chuckles] And now we know. And now we sit. Because we know.
Debra: I really need a vacation.
_____
Blessings all!
Eud,
“Can I assume there was a time when you weren’t all in on chemtrails/DEW weapons”?
Oh…I’m in on a lot more than just Chemtrails and DEW weapons.
Of course waking up to the massive propaganda, brainwashing, and dumbing down and the tremendously successful media/TV ‘Operation Mocking Bird’ we have all been subjected to (you have heard of Operation Mocking Bird…right Eud?) while waking up, taking red pills, then black pills it all has been a gradual process…not an event.
‘True’ history books have to found and read, ‘true’ videos found and watched, ‘true’ internet evidence found – researched, and cross referenced. Money followed and footnotes checked.
You have to be careful Eud…False Flags and those who wave them are everywhere…many are really just wolves in sheep’s clothing.
I spent close to 50 years as a business fraud investigator in multiple industries…brought three multiple cases to the Fibbers, and had a fourth client drop a Fibber level case out of fear of the PR (long story).
Personally documented hundreds…and supervised thousands of cases of the 5W1H:
Made a good living putting pieces of the puzzle together…I’m especially well versed in ‘People of the Lie’ one of my favorite books. Spent a decent career exposing them…and now investigating those of them that have obviously long captured the country and far beyond.
Are you kidding about Chemtrails…that was and is an easy one as they started becoming visible decades ago.
Here Eud…spend 10 minutes…all you had to do was LOOK UP:
Completely missed the point.
Despite just below;
JFC. He even said “point is”.
You mark, are oblivious.
Responses are just a launching point for your brain farts, aren’t they? No concern about relevance?
When were you first made aware of dews and chemtrails?
Trolling?
(BTW, fine with that, good hunting)
Just kicking the idiots tree.
Seeing if any nuts fall loose.
Thanks for sharing that mark. Your background gives you more credibility.
Many of us have a hidden background story that has caused us to be able to better discern the difference between the truth and lies, but this is only a comment section, where it is completely unreasonable, even ridiculous, for another commenter to demand unending proof of our assertions.
I’m thinking that when we provide some proof, that it is not even considered at all by most of the people who demand proof. It’s about feelings instead of logic.
I started reading The People of the Lie, thanks for the reminder that I need to finish it.
Vigilant,
Sorry I missed your comment at the time.
Of Course ‘The Road Less Traveled’ is another of his books I loved. (Need to read that again).
I wrote a continuing serial for a specific industry magazine (3,000 to 4,000 words – six issues a year based on my actual cases) from 2003 to 2010…loved it, the only reason I stopped was the owner/editor died and the magazine closed down. I fictionalized my actual business embezzlement, theft, fraud, and what I called business abuse investigations (exposed lazy slugs, bullies, serious serial expense or credit card and billing fraud, etc.) changed all the names…but everyone in the industry knew they were actual investigations. Exposed VP’s to the entry level (and some realitives of owners) and every position in-between.
The serial became quite popular and my consulting business soared because of it. I had a fictional lead character of another name then mine and after the first year company owners in the industry would call me up all the time to hire him!
I didn’t have to make a sales call for a decade because of it and got a full page four color ad in payment.
I worked in PEOPLE OF THE LIE and many BIBLICAL themes into the stories. It was very common for my investigations to expose long term mole tic thieves who were the last person anyone (especially my clients) would ever suspect. Their façade was almost perfect…except they were really People of the Lie.
Years ago I put a couple of them up on TBP.
Best to you Vigilant!
Have my daughter, son in law and grandson for a week! Life and God aren’t just good…they are GREAT!
mark
Great share!
“Their façade was almost perfect…except they were really People of the Lie.”
That’s why I had better finish reading it and put the knowledge to practice, the People of the Lie are everywhere and can be as subtle as that ole serpent.
That’s a pretty silly comment and it’s full of generalizations and speculation. Is anyone who disagrees with you or has questions about this a bot or a paid troll? Do you really believe that everyone who disagrees with you is “running interference for the Luciferians”? Is it also really your belief that people who aren’t ready to accept your version of events “have no compassion whatsoever for these humans reduced to ash”?
I hope you really don’t actually believe those things.
https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP._K9APx-ndd8GiXuq9tdpxQHaDt?w=350&h=175&c=7&r=0&o=5&dpr=1.5&pid=1.7
True BL, they are trying to make people waste their time searching for and posting truth that they have no intention of giving serious consideration to, and are trying to get people to waste their energy on anger & arguments. That’s why I always say don’t feed the trolls.
So they have convinced you NOT to post the truth because it is a waste of time?
Wow. I bet THEY are really disappointed.
In the past I have posted quite a bit of documentation on various subjects on different websites. I no longer have the time to do so, but if someone else does have the time to post then they should do whatever they feel is right.
It’s not a waste of time to provide documentation to serious truth seekers, but at times, judging by the replies, it’s obvious that the information provided was never even considered.
Yup, don’t feed the trolls, they’re pathetic and only want attention because their lives are so empty….
Good thing you don’t post for that reason. (or do you?)
Oh looky here Herschel we got ourselves another BL butt licker.
Fuck off bl
Get yourlips off of your boyfriends cock faggot BLT.
BL “Everyone who disagrees with me is satan and going to burn in hell forever because my God is love and he forgives me when I am an extreme dewche but you go to hell for disbelieving in the dewps I was dewped by.
What’s with all these walls of copy and paste crap?
People cannot engage piece by piece?
I know what this is, it is terror on the party of the dewpies that piece by piece their entire theory falls apart.
Ergo, they answer all challenges with a wall of copy paste in an attempt to prove their case with a ridiculous wall of claims.
Yep.
Basically, you ask a question,or poke a hole, and these idiots drop a mountain of copy paste as if that were a proof of anything.
Dewps.
You may note their complete inability to answer questions about what they post too.
Questioning anything they claim, or even asking for explanation/clarification, is either attacked, ignored, or buried in more of their unhinged bullshit. Rational response to questions about that which they claim infallible knowledge, seem beyond them.
I think they are simply incapable of recognizing THAT they are liars.
Ron DeSantis is a “truth telling candidate?”
If it was a DEW as many here seem to believe, then why there? Why that particular island and for what purpose? A test of the weapon? If so, why test it there? What’s so significant about Maui? If it’s just to push the global warming hoax, then there were greater opportunities to cause much more destruction elsewhere wasn’t there?
Just throwing out some questions. Is that still allowed here or will I be accused of working for the CIA as others have been?
I’m Anonymous,
Buddy…a debate…cool. An exchange without insults…chilly.
I’m in!
My thoughts:
QUESTION: If it was a DEW as many here seem to believe, then why there?
ANSWER: Completely controlled by the Dems/Globalists. They want to showcase a NWO utopian 15 minute green city and this is a great ‘paradise’ candidate once they get all those pesky useless eaters cooked alive, murdered in many forms, survivors broken and burnt out, and then whoever is left bought out with MOUR ($$$$$$$) of their created out of thin air fake, counterfeited, created on key board fake fiat pretend money/dollars.
Plus Hawaii wants to be the first state going Green…no matter how many innocents have to be murdered…it’s gonna be a NWO UTOPIA!!!
QUESTION: Why that particular island and for what purpose?
ANSWER: This an’t their first rodeo…this has been done all over the world…much of the answer to this question is above in the answer to your first question…both in location and purpose.
QUESTION: A test of the weapon? If so, why test it there?
ANSWER: Buddy the testing on DEWS is long…long over. The tactic has been refined, and polished…it WORKS. Maui is just the lastest.
Maui is not a test…Maui is a smoke and mirrors refinement…played out in the owned and controlled media and TV idiot tube (if they even cover it at all) under an up to date Operation MOCKING BIRD propaganda, brain washing, dumbing down…and wolves in sheep clothing feeding us/US their narratives are all over pushing TLPTB narritive…including TBP comments.
QUESTION: What’s so significant about Maui? If it’s just to push the global warming hoax, then there were greater opportunities to cause much more destruction elsewhere wasn’t there?
ANSWER: Maui is long down the list of where this tactic has been done…and by the way the hoax is long called CLIMATE CHANGE.
QUESTION: Just throwing out some questions. Is that still allowed here or will I be accused of working for the CIA as others have been?
ANSWER: Let me say this about that. First you are a No Name…I understand some of the reasons…but I will not hide in any way, shape or form…I am mark…I had a dog with a hair lip who use to always call out my name!
We are divided here on who is saying what…but I stand by my words with an identifiable name.
I have no idea if you are working for the CIA…and just flushing me out.
By the way it is way too late for flushing me out. Long story but I have met people at Tea Party rallies who I know after long conversations had to be plants/Fibbers and were trying to flush me out…after watching them take pictures of all our license plates all I did was buy MOUR ammo.
But maybe you are a pilgrim looking for the TRUTH?
(I recommend PILGRIM’S PROGRESS…but watch out for SMAME! – TBP Inside joke)
Whatever local yokel DEFIANT list all the alphabet agencies have…if I am not at the top of all their lists…
I WILL DEMAND A RECOUNT!!!
Anyone who thinks the CIA is not covering TBP like a blanket on a cold winter night…and every other free speech web site on the internet (while long bringing in AI listing all the key words by person) is whistling in the wind while passing a graveyard…a graveyard they may end up buried in because they had the grit and the balls to still use the 1st Amendment.
These demonic lost doomed fools could even save me from hospice…and provide me withan honorable death…through…who knows i may get lucky.
I have two close friends who are trying to be Gray men…in my opinion they both have already surrendered their 1st amendment…for what??? A few more years of being spared…un-noticed???
To what end? Being the last person cooked alive in their home by a DEW? The last person into the boxcar?
I may completely lose the 1st Amendment one day (past the degrading we live under)…but it will have to be taken…I will never surrender it…and that will only happen after the 2nd Amendment is either exhausted or my Homecoming has happened.
I will never bow the knee to or kiss BAAL on the mouth. And BAAL (whoever you really are) is who is really bringing the DEW fires.
From above;
🙂
Haaaaaa…That is it…you really can’t help yourself can you ‘knee jerk bumper sticker no content turd flinger’.
Come on dude…lets read your answers to the questions.
POINT BY POINT.
Take some time and thought and debate me?
Let’s hear your answers to ‘I’m Anonymous’ questions.
Counter me…answer him or just sulk away and brood..and sulk…and simmer.
Maybe Eud will counter and suppoert you with with some…ahhhh possible, maybe, coulda happened platutides???
OK one point. You stick to it. Facts only.
Which one? You pick.
I guess that was too much to ask.
Dude…I answered them all…you answer them all.
Hey No Name…don’t bust a vein on your point by point response…I have to get some zzzzzzzzz’s and tomorrow I have a contractor and farm chores…then lunch…but….can’t wait to read your debate points!
Fire Technol. Author manuscript; available in PMC 2021 Jun 3.
Published in final edited form as:
Fire Technol. 2020; 57(2): 10.1007/s10694-020-01018-5.
doi: 10.1007/s10694-020-01018-5
PMCID: PMC8174413
NIHMSID: NIHMS1700946
PMID: 34092802
Investigating Coupled Effect of Radiative Heat Flux and Firebrand Showers on Ignition of Fuel Beds
Sayaka SUZUKI1 and Samuel, L. MANZELLO2
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Abstract
Fire spread occurs via radiation, flame contact, and firebrands. While firebrand showers are known to be a cause of spot fires which ignite fuels far from the main fire front, in the case of short distance spot fires, radiation from the main fire may play a role for firebrand induced ignition processes. Many past investigations have focused on singular effects on fire spread, and little is known about coupled effects. The coupled effect of radiative heat flux and firebrand showers on ignition processes of fuel beds is studied by using a newly developed experimental protocol. The newly developed protocol includes the addition of a radiant panel to the existing experimental setup of a firebrand generator coupled to a wind facility. Experiments were performed under an applied wind field, as the wind is a key parameter in large outdoor fire spread processes. Results show that radiant heat flux plays an important role for ignition by firebrands under 6 m/s while little effect was observed under 8 m/s.
Keywords: Firebrands, Ignition, Radiation, Large Outdoor Fires, WUI Fires, Urban Fires
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1. Introduction
Large outdoor fires pose problems for societies across the world [1, 2]. Perhaps the most often in the news are wildland fires that approach urban areas. These are more simply referred to as Wildland-Urban Interface (WUI) fires [3]. In Asia and North America, some recent examples are the 2019 WUI fires that occurred in South Korea and those in 2018 in Northern California in the United States [4-6]. In Africa, in less developed countries, there have been large fires that have occurred in informal settlements [7]. For centuries there have also been large urban fires in Japan, a country with no large wildland fire problem or informal settlement situation [2].
In all of these large outdoor fires, fires spread in three mechanisms: direct flame contact, thermal radiation, and firebrands as shown in Fig. 1. Firebrands are produced and lead to enhanced fire spread processes [8-27]. Often referred to as spotting processes, firebrands are liberated from the combustion of various fuel types, such as trees, shrubs, houses, and then induce ignition of fuel sources away from the initial fire source. In the case of short distance spot fires (distance up to 500 – 750 m [28]), a potentially important aspect of the physics of ignition induced by firebrand are the coupled influence of firebrand showers and radiant heat. Many past investigations have focused on singular effects on fire spread [11, 23-27], and little is known about coupled effects.
Figure 1
Fire spread mechanisms in large outdoor fires: direct flame contact, thermal radiation and firebrands
Here, the coupled effect of radiation and firebrand showers on ignition processes of fuel beds is studied by using a newly developed experimental protocol. Experiments were performed under an applied wind field, as the wind is a key parameter in large outdoor fire spread processes.
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2. Experimental Description
All experiments were conducted at the National Research Institute of Fire and Disaster (NRIFD). The wind field exits from a 4.0 m diameter fan, and it is possible to generate wind speeds up to 10 m/s. The flow field was measured to be within ± 10 % of desired wind speed over a cross-section of 2.0 m by 2.0 m. To generate firebrand showers, the reduced-scale continuous-feed firebrand generator was used and installed inside NRIFD’s wind facility [29]. This apparatus is known to have the ability to produce firebrand showers often seen in actual large outdoor fires (Fig. 2). Figure 2 offers comparison of firebrands in actual WUI fires [30] and firebrands from the firebrand generator. The experimental facility was modified for this work with the new aspect being the addition of a radiant panel to provide radiant heat to the fuel beds.
Figure 2
Comparison of firebrands in WUI fires (left) and firebrands from a firebrand generator under a 4 m/s wind (right). Image in left is from [30] showing WUI fires in California, USA 2018.
2.1. Experimental Apparatus
The reduced-scale continuous-feed firebrand generator consisted of two parts: the main body where combustion takes place and continuous feeding component (see Fig. 3). A conveyer was used to feed wood pieces continuously into the device and was operated at 1.0 cm/s, and wood pieces were put on the conveyer belt at 12.5 cm intervals. Douglas-fir wood pieces machined with dimensions of 7.9 mm (H) by 7.9 mm (W) by 12.7 mm (L) were used to produce firebrands. These same size wood pieces were used in past studies and have been shown to be within the projected area and the mass of firebrands measured from full-scale burning trees as projected areas obtained from actual WUI fires [31]. The wood feed rate used here was 80 g/min (mass based) or 160 /min (number based), similar to previous non-radiation assisted ignition studies [29]. As glowing firebrands were desired, the blower was set to provide an average velocity of 500 cm/s.
Figure 3
Schematic of a firebrand generator embedded in the wind facility in NRIFD
The fuel beds used for ignition were 300 mm by 300 mm in size and consisted of the same Douglas-fir wood pieces used to generate firebrands (Fig. 4 (a) and (b)). These were installed inside a mock-up corner assembly lined with calcium silicate board, since the ignition of the corner assembly itself was not the goal here; only ignition induced in the wood pieces was of interest. It was observed that firebrands deposited uniformly on the fuel beds when installed inside the mock-up corner assembly. To further simplify the experiments, these wood pieces in the fuel beds were oven dried to remove moisture at 104 °C. Moisture removal was verified by measuring the temporal variation of mass loss of the wood pieces.
Figure 4
(a) Schematic of the experimental settings. Front view (top) and Top view (bottom) are shown. Firebrand showers were produced using the reduced-scale firebrand generator installed in NIRFD’s wind facility. Fuel beds consisted of Douglas-fir pieces of uniform size.
(b) A typical experiment conducted at 8 m/s. Multiple glowing firebrands are seen depositing in the fuel bed.
To provide uniform radiant heat flux to fuel beds, an electrically operated quartz radiant panel was used. Dimensions of the radiant panel were also 300 mm by 300 mm (Fig. 4 (a) and (b)). It was mounted at a height of 440 mm from the fuel bed surface.
2.2. Experimental Condition
The two wind speeds were selected, namely 6 m/s and 8 m/s for this experimental series. The objective of the new experimental setup is to investigate the combined effect of radiative heat flux and firebrands on ignition, and therefore the wind speeds were carefully selected. Based on scoping experiments, firebrands are able to ignite fuel beds of wood pieces within 40 min under both wind speeds without radiative heat flux. Firebrand flux landing on fuel bed was measured via video recording (30 frames per second). The firebrand fluxes were 6.3 /m2 s and 9.0 /m2 s under 6 m/s and 8 m/s respectively. The characteristics of firebrands, namely the mass and the projected area of firebrands were compared. As shown in Fig. 5, the mass and the projected area of firebrands produced under 6 m/s and 8 m/s wind are similar as those are within similar mass and projected area class and the average within uncertainties.
Figure 5
Characteristics of firebrands used in this study.
A custom calibration rig was designed and fabricated to quantify the radiant heat flux that the radiant panel provided at the fuel bed surface. The heat from the radiant panel was 5.76 kW (Quartz-faced Infrared Radiant Panel Heaters, Omega Engineering). The applied radiant heat flux to fuel beds with no wind was 8.5 kW/m2. This value was carefully selected. In this study, it is important to investigate the coupled effects of firebrand showers and radiant heat flux on fuel bed ignition. Naturally, if the radiant heat flux applied to the fuel beds was too high, firebrands would simply serve as piloted ignition source, as the radiant heat flux would be the dominate ignition mode. Accordingly, a series of experiments using only a radiant heater coupled with spark ignitor was undertaken to determine the limits where radiant heat flux alone in the absence of firebrand showers was capable to ignite the fuel beds used here. At 10 kW/ m2, the fuel bed was not able to be ignited by a spark within 30 min. For values above 10 kW/m2, radiant heat flux in the presence of a spark was able to produce ignition of the fuel beds. The radiant heat was measured at multiple points and found to be within 10 %.
The applied wind increases the convective heat loss from the fuel beds, so the measured heat flux to fuel beds, using a total heat flux gauge (Schmidt-Boelter gauge, Hukseflux, calibrated by the manufacturer), under 6 m/s and 8 m/s were 5.6 kW/m2 and 4.0 kW/m2, respectively. Pre-heating time was determined as the duration from the time when the radiant panel was turned on to the time to start the firebrand generator. For pre-heating times of 10 min and 20 min, the wind field was switched on 60 seconds prior to initiating combustion in the firebrand generator. Selected pre-heating time was 0 min, 10 min, and 20 min. Baseline experiments were also performed to examine the ignitions by firebrands without applied radiant heat flux. The experiments for the same condition was repeated at least 3 times.
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3. Results and Discussions
Figure 4 (b) displays a picture of a typical experiment. In this picture, the applied wind speed was 8 m/s, and radiant panel was switched on at the same time as the firebrand generator, that is there was no pre-heating time. The experiments for the same condition was repeated at least 3 times, and the uncertainties were calculated based on two standard deviation.
Fig. 6 displays the time to smoldering ignition (SI) in the fuel beds a function of pre-heating time and wind speed. As mentioned above, the firebrand flux on the fuel beds differ under 6 m/s and 8 m/s (6.3 /m2 s and 9.0 /m2 s, respectively). The time to ignition did not take into account the difference of firebrand flux, so total number of firebrands per m2 required is introduced. The total number of firebrands per m2 required to achieve these ignition sequences is also displayed in Fig. 7. This was calculated by multiplying the time to SI by the firebrand flux. The time to SI was measured via video recording, from the time the first firebrand landed the fuel bed to the time the sustained SI was observed in the fuel bed. Experiments were repeated and the error bars in the figures shows the standard deviation. Here, sustained SI was defined as the start of intense smoke generation and glowing ignition of the fuel bed due to the coupled effects of accumulated firebrands and radiant heat flux. To aid in understanding, in Fig. 6 and Fig. 7, no radiant panel conditions denote that the radiant panel was not switched on. For other cases, the applied radiant heat flux to fuel beds was 8.5 kW/m2.
Figure 6
Coupled effects of radiation and firebrands on smoldering ignition under different wind speeds and pre-heating time.
Figure 7
Number of firebrands per m2 required for smoldering ignition under different wind speed and pre-heating time
An interesting result from these findings is that for wind speed of 6 m/s, the pre-heating due to the applied radiant heat flux to the fuel bed influenced the time to SI significantly. Yet, as the wind speed was increased to 8 m/s, the applied radiant heat flux had very little effect.
To better visualize these results, it is instrumental to describe the heat and mass transfer processes occurring in the fuel beds and firebrands. Treating the fuel bed and firebrands as a system, an energy balance gives:
Qfuel,total=Qfirebrand,comb−Qfirebrand,loss+Qfuel,rad−Qfuel,conv
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where Qfirebrand,comb is the heat produced from the firebrand combustion, Qfirebrand,loss is the convective and radiative heat loss from a firebrand, Qfuel,rad is the external radiant heat provided to the fuel beds, and Qfuel,conv is the convective heat transfer (cooling) to the fuel beds. Since the fuel beds were oven dried in these experiments, the term indicating the energy to remove the fuel bed moisture is omitted.
In order to ignite the fuel beds, Qfuel,total has to be equal to or greater than the heat required for the ignition, Qig. Assuming ignition occurs when the temperature of the fuel beds reaches the ignition temperature.
plied radiant heat flux. It is believed that the increased wind speed rather changes the combustion dynamics of the firebrands by providing more oxygen and therefore alters their temperatures, resulting in enhanced combustion reactions. There is limited knowledge on the firebrand temperature or heat of combustion of a firebrand [32-34].
Manzello el al. [32] quantitatively showed that glowing firebrand surface temperature increased as the wind speed was increased. As a part of that investigation, the surface temperature of charred area on the glowing firebrand was simultaneously measured using both the thermocouple and the infrared camera [32]. The firebrand temperatures were quite sensitive to airflow. Therefore, in this work, larger firebrand temperatures were expected as the wind speed was increased from 6 m/s to 8 m/s.
Assuming the temperature of a firebrand increases with wind speed, it is known that the final mass of a firebrand under different wind speed decreases with the increasing wind speed [32]. Thus, Qfirebrand,comb is expected to increase as the wind speed increases. The temperature increase would result in the increase in Qfirebrand,loss, assuming tig is the same. From previous studies [25, 26], it is also known that the tig becomes shorter as the wind speed increases. In this case, Qfirebrand,loss may decrease depending on tig, cancelling the increase in Qfirebrand,loss by temperature increase. The external radiant heat has impact upon the fuel bed ignition. However, the convective cooling and shorter ignition time at a higher wind speed reduces this influence, which is shown in results under 8 m/s.
In every experiment in this investigation, smoldering ignition was observed to transition to flaming ignition. The time to flaming ignition in the fuel beds as function of pre-heating time and wind speed is shown in Fig 8. The total number of firebrands per m2 required to reach flaming ignition (FI) was also quantified and shown in Fig 9.
Excellent Mark!
Chester II
I don’t doubt the government has such a weapon, but I haven’t made my mind up yet as to what truly occurred there. As far as turning Maui into a 15 minute city goes, I guess time will tell. That Jew governor is already scheming about ways to acquire all the land so it wouldn’t surprise me. Their true intentions about what they plan to do there will become known when enough time has gone by.
Constructive dialog and debates can still happen here without all the childish insults that are posted by new people and regulars. Maybe we just proved that. Take care.
All the childish insults are either from the “Anonymous” who has been spewing all the verbal diarrhea at Mark and BL in the comments above, or responses to him. That “Anonymous” is either an AI bot or an attention-seeking troll. If the later, he will go away eventually if everyone stops engaging with him.
piearesquared,
Come on he is actually supposed to working on a point by point debate answer…lets see what he has past mouthy insults…
This could be interesting?
Presumptuous twit. I never agreed to that. You are a liar, again.
Yeah bl and mark areinnocent victims…
Of their idiotic compulsion to make claims without foundation RE Lahaina WILDFIRE.
I’m Anonymous,
Buddy…I have been debating here without insults for close to 9 years…but sometimes you have to counter punch…
TBP can be Fight Club…so be it.
DEWS are multiple weapons (not a weapon) and their platforms are expanding…but they leave evidence that are different from Wild Fires…I have been putting that evidence up in four or five different Maui threads since it happened…scroll back if interested.
Take a look at this from 2018…I have been researching DEWS a long time.
DEW weapons are real and being used to horrifically murder Americans for many, many years… countless tears…there is an evil agenda far past the death and destruction…and this is not going to stop.
Average people like us need to research it on their own…you have to dig deep as the vids are constantly being disappeared…the NWO/Great Reset narrative and the narrative supporters are everywhere.
The truth seems to overwhelm many…I understand that but you have to face it…and FIGHT IT.
“I see dewd people”
Dewlusional ones even.
What has happened on this site? What has happened to logical, rationale discussion using as many facts as one can find? Why is every post turning into a shit flinging fest?
Your post?
BL started it.
I assume it’s probably the one with already known multiple avatars.
The intelligent posters aren’t bothering here because some assholes are doing their level best to sabotage the comment section. Why remains a mystery….unless they don’t want anyone hearing truth to power…perhaps too close to the target so they must deflect?
There’s no real shit flinging, the assholes aren’t capable of intellient rebuttals, however, they are capable of eating their own shit and pronouncing it good.
Sad little bots…
Project much?
Where’s the Anonymous police when you need them? Archie, we got an Anon on the loose here. Not sure if he’s dangerous or not…..Perhaps a retinal scan, Sir?
That would probably be me.
Mostly harmless, until no option.
Now the Voight-Kampff might be an issue.
Admin has my addy, I am pretty sure.
If issue, easy to block. Not my home. Only one who gets to say. If told to leave, will.
Settled?
Put up some content dude…otherwise we are going to run out of OFF.
Are you the same mark avoiding the “one point ” above?
If so, why?
Dude…I just answered you.
I answered them all you answer them all.
I will love debating you past bumper sticker three line insults…as that is all you put up.
Lets get past Maui and get into the FED…and all the Great Poisonings…love to hear your take???
It’s probably him.
Who?