Jordan B Peterson: The Reflection I Never Wished to See

Guest Post by J R Leach

In the dusty corridors of intellectual exploration, I, an avid follower of Jordan B Peterson’s insights into Jungian psychology and Nietzschean philosophy, find myself confronting a recent heartbreak.

At first, I chose to ignore it, not ready for what it actually meant. But I’ve mulled over it for a bit now and have made some semblance of peace with it.

What a grisly, heartrending sight that tweet was.

Coming from the man who said this:

“It’s not always easy to distinguish the demand for vengeance from the demand for justice.”

You don’t say?

I’m not some casual ‘fake fan’, either, taking some easy jabs now the tides have turned. In a particularly nihilistic, self-destructive period of my life, he helped me steady myself and take a good introspective look at my motivations. I was astonished, then, to learn how little I really knew myself.

And I’ll always be grateful to the man for that if nothing else.

But, as I should have known, idols are always false. And in deifying the man, what I’d actually done was blind myself to all the tell-tale signs of his downfall.

Moving to Dailywire, being the main one.

And then, on October 7th, 2023:

”Give ‘em hell, Netanyahu. Enough is enough.”

Something broke when I read that. Something that can’t be fixed. Hundreds of hours spent watching his lectures, reading his books, taking his personality tests and his Self-authoring program; I did it all; the man was always in my life; I always had a lecture on the go, a book in my backpack, his words as a mantra in dark days, pretty much every day for five years.

And then…

“Give ‘em hell, Netanyahu…”

And suddenly, I can’t even stomach a YouTube short if Professor Peterson comes scrolling by. Not even from my favourite lectures—not his biblical series, not his talks on Jung, not his analysis of fairytales—nothing.

The mask has been lifted, and it cannot be unseen.

Peterson’s teachings, rooted in the wisdom of great minds like Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Carl Jung and Friedrich Nietzsche, have been a beacon in dark times, granting me some much-needed grounding and moral clarity. I’ve absorbed his insights on the dangers of ideological fanaticism, the importance of individual responsibility, and the perils of surrendering to corrupt authority. Peterson’s extensive studies on tyrants, his philosophical explorations into the rise of Nazi Germany, and his warnings about the capacity of ordinary people to become brutal enforcers have been invaluable lessons that shaped my worldview.

But alas, it seems the hero, who tirelessly dissected the complexities of authoritarianism and corruption, has lived long enough to become a villain, leaving me to reconcile the contradiction between the mentor I thought I knew and the political endorsement that seems to run counter to his teachings—which then, by extension, brings the teachings themselves into question.

Which I cannot help but resent a little. But I know resentment is a waste of breath, and holding onto it burdens no one but me, especially if there’s nothing you can do about it. So best to let it go.

But then, guess who taught me that?

You betcha, bucko.

Peterson has been a steadfast advocate for self-examination and the relentless pursuit of truth. I’ve grappled with my own shortcomings, continually striving to embody the virtues he extolled. Yet, the dissonance between Peterson’s espoused principles and his public endorsement challenges the very core of the philosophy that urged me to rise each day, clean my room, and confront the chaos within and without.

This disillusionment is potentially very damaging, as I can imagine lots of people are feeling this way. And it feels akin to betrayal or the loss of a loved one; it wreaked havoc on my morale, certainly.

And I am sure, as well, that Peterson will have amassed many militant followers by now, who will treat everything the man says as gospel, contradictions be damned.

But I do believe ideas descend from a higher plain than us highly fallible human beings, so I hope all those who saw the wisdom in his words also see the wisdom in keeping a little distance between a very mortal, very flawed man and the philosophies he handed down.

Peterson’s meticulous dissection of Solzhenitsyn’s work, for example, is not congruent with his unequivocal support for Netanyahu. The intricacies of the situation demand nuanced, unbiased analysis, yet Peterson’s endorsement rings with an almost automated simplicity that raises questions about his application of psychological insights to the complexities of real-world geopolitics.

Namely, where is this application? Where is the investigation into the political landscape or the history that shaped this conflict? The US Government’s vested interests in the state? How Israel was founded in the first place?

Or maybe just exploring what the psychological impact of an endless, inter-generational, ever-spiralling cycle of war and vengeance might be…

Now, I don’t have a doctorate or anything, so don’t quote me on this, but I’m pretty sure the conclusion would be “pretty bloomin’ horrid.”

If he cannot treat the political landscape with the same depth and honesty as the psychological one, then he really has no business being there. There are already plenty of gung-ho shills who’ll justify any atrocity/war crime/occupation if some faceless, corporate or governmental body promises them their own Talk Show along with their thirty silver.

Is that all he is now?

Judging by his Twitter feed, yes. It seems he just throws tweets into the ether to generate reactions, to make people cross and upset, whether they are in agreement or not—

And always
in this weird, janky
way, for some
reason.

It all suddenly seemed quite two-dimensional, as though all these social justice crusades were just distractions—an established opposition to the madness of the left to keep some illusory semblance of equilibrium in the political sphere while hidden hands torch the world from the shadows.

Could it be that JBP can see corruption on an individual level but cannot see it a little higher in the political/global stratosphere?

Wishful thinking, perhaps.

Maybe he has been a shill the whole time, just waiting to be ‘activated’ by his handler.

Maybe this is what he genuinely believes, which, if so, makes him so monumentally naive that it verges on the insane.

The call for individual responsibility and the eternal recurrence appears at odds with the endorsement of ‘one side over another’, where ‘his side’ is entangled in controversy and secrecy with allegations of corruption, genocide and warmongering. The juxtaposition is striking, and the absence of nuanced, honest investigation accentuates the dissonance.

For the sake of argument, let’s say the Hamas attack happened exactly as it was reported; Hamas raped and tortured and kidnapped upwards of 2,000 people and sauteed and cannibalised a thousand babies, all while laughing to their friends about it—let us say that Israel is 100% the victim—Peterson would still know, surely, that a violent response would not only murder, maim and displace thousands of Palestinian civilians but also endanger or outright murder the Israeli hostages as well.

This means the whole affair is not about saving lives or preserving peace but rather the dishing out of vengeance—a revenge served so cold that perhaps his hope is that it’ll act as a pallet cleanse?

Adding another layer to this ideological shitshow is the orchestrated anti-Muslim sentiment that permeated social media in the wake of this news.

Twitter (X) has become even more of a cesspool than it was before.

YouTube luminaries like Ben Shapiro and Douglas Murray, known for their ‘intellectual’ perspectives, contributed to a vitriolic campaign that departed from the reasoned discourse they had promoted previously. Murray’s “The Madness of Crowds” takes an ironic turn as he now steadfastly fans the flames of an online mob, dialling up the rhetoric to an alarming 11.5.

Labelling, unironically, any pro-Palesitian demonstrations as ‘hate marches’, which is exactly the hysterical, censorious label these ‘right-of-centre’ types used to stand firmly against. It’s incredibly sad to see Douglas Murray day in and day out, selling his soul in real time as he guns for Piers Morgan’s job.

Imagine selling your integrity to ITV. Jesus wept.

The coordinated effort by these right-leaning voices, advocating a campaign that amplifies rather than quells the madness of crowds, feels like a departure from the principles of introspection, nuance, and individual responsibility they once championed. The irony is palpable as a wave of self-righteous fury emanates from these intellectual spheres, drowning out the very principles they once held dear.

Or said they held dear, anyway.

In this tumultuous sea of political and ideological discord, followers are tasked with navigating the storm while staying true to the principles that first drew them to these intellectual figures. The room may be clean, but the battleground of ideas is cluttered with contradictions, leaving us to ponder whether this storm is a fleeting squall or a harbinger of a more profound transformation in the landscape of online ‘intellectual discourse’.

I have a rather cynical feeling that everything is going as planned. Divide and conquer.

As I grapple with this fresh feeling of despondency, I am reminded of the wisdom in that age-old adage:

“Never meet your heroes, for in their humanity, they may reveal a reflection you never wished to see.”

No more heroes.

I’ll walk this path alone a while.

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VOWG
VOWG
January 15, 2024 7:14 am

I read Adler, Freud and Jung and I have never admired other men for their intellects or anything else. Some people express a point of view that one can agree with but that is about as far as it goes.

Darren
Darren
  VOWG
January 15, 2024 9:48 am

I’ve also dropped Peterson like a hot potato over this.

Tell Diogenes that the only living man who will never let you down is Ron Paul.

zappalives
zappalives
January 15, 2024 7:51 am

If you need a Guru in your life………….your a democrat.

Happy Kinta Koonday everyone !

Anonymous
Anonymous
  zappalives
January 15, 2024 10:11 am

First sentence right on – second not s0 much.

dagobaz
dagobaz
January 15, 2024 8:10 am

Peterson speaks limited truth, mixed with a dreadful miasma of lies, directed to release only as much as his paymasters want … now you know who his paymasters are, and what tune they want sung.

Consider this:
” Peterson has previously discussed his battle with depression and was prescribed the benzodiazepine after his wife’s cancer diagnosis in April 2019. ”

He describes himself as a “classic British liberal.”

Enough said.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  dagobaz
January 18, 2024 6:41 pm

To be fair, the benzos seriously fucked him up and he has said as much.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2024 8:20 am

Every man has clay feet, best to take what is helpful and utile from each and write off the rest to the flawed nature of our being.

Jordan is one of those guys who give good advice, but doesn’t know how to apply it to his own life. I feel sorry for him, something tells me he’s been compromised and it appears to be taking its toll on his psyche.

H2O2
H2O2
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2024 8:08 pm

In an interview a couple years ago Peterson said he took the clot shots so he would be allowed to travel during the scamdemic; thus the damaged cognitive faculties – more so than we thought.

Tree Mike: ef be eye code name Foghorn Leghorn
Tree Mike: ef be eye code name Foghorn Leghorn
  H2O2
January 16, 2024 8:09 pm

My thoughts echo hard farmer and H2O2. He’s changed post nano-bot shot. The vaxx makes you “programmable”.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
January 15, 2024 8:30 am

Existential funk. There’s a fun ride…not.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 15, 2024 8:33 am

This didn’t give this guy a clue?:

Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
  Anonymous
January 15, 2024 12:10 pm

“Suspend judgement for six months…”
– JP

Open mouth – insert foot – be proven a fool and a tool.

Never suspend judgement unless one is ready or resigned for thralldom and FJT.

Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
  Aunt Acid
January 15, 2024 12:34 pm

Down voter(s) will please stay up to date on all injections and wear the fucking mask.

Defector
Defector
  Aunt Acid
January 15, 2024 12:36 pm

Sometimes it takes quick judgement and good marksmanship.
I voted up.

ryan
ryan
January 15, 2024 8:43 am

I think that the author should regard this event as being a salutary one. No longer does he need to live under the delusion that any man is perfect nor the delusion that anyone speaking from a platform is anything but a tool of the hands of the overlords.
If one reads a book, one takes what one wants and leaves the rest. Don’t agonize over the artwork on the cover.

anon a moos
anon a moos
  ryan
January 15, 2024 9:09 am

^^^^ This

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 15, 2024 9:33 am

Jordan B. Peterson…he’s Canadian…so there’s that.

H2O2
H2O2
  Anonymous
January 15, 2024 8:13 pm

“…so there’s that.”

– says Anonymous … lol, you simp; at least The Scrotum Catcher has the gonads to sign his name.

Walter
Walter
January 15, 2024 9:36 am

The opposite of love is not hate. The writer is a dyed in the wool… follower. Important, that, it leaves a perfect pathway of excuses for failures, for wrong or evil acts, for failures to understand and assimilate facts and reality in one’s face. It absolves the follower of actual responsibility, and the disappointment expressed is oh, so pathetic and genuine. Duped… again… by a … great man… with feet of clay. Like a woman’s excuse… one thing led to another.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Walter
January 15, 2024 9:51 am

Too many smart pills!

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 15, 2024 10:10 am

Do you agree that at some point “enough is [really] enough”? If you don’t, just bend over and spread ’em. If you do, what do the terrorists have to do to justify a victim who seeks to eliminate the source of his torture? Perhaps if Hamas had set off one of those missing suitcase nukes in the middle of Tel Aviv that would be enough. But for some like this writer I doubt it. Everyone with an IQ over 90 knows that if Hamas had, or gets, a nuke, goodbye Tel Aviv. Perhaps once it can finally make one, under Brandon’s umbrella, Hamas will get its chance. The Israelis know this and may believe this is there last chance to rid the world of the bloody terrorists known as Hamas. I know some of you are thinking that Hamas nuking the Jews would be doing the world a favor, but that would seem to put you in the same category as Hamas and the Jews you hate.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
January 15, 2024 10:29 am

Not allowed to edit any more but I remind all of you that we are all enraged by the many failings of the leftist elites that are ruining are country. Some readers even suggest that they are ready to take up arms. Suppose our government started bombing school and public buses and sending antifa fanatics to murder, rape, and pillage in the red states. Would you shout “enough is enough” on the way to the ramparts? That is what Israelis have lived with at least since the first intifada.
Just to respond to what some of you thinking, I am not a Jew and until the first intifada I believed that the Palestinians had been wronged. When they started sending suicide bombers onto Israeli school buses I recognized them for what they were, psychopathic murderers, and they lost me. We wouldn’t suffer such animals to leave next to us and neither should the Israelis. With all the Muslims crossing our border, we may get the chance to find out what it is like to live through our own intifada. Bet I know what most of us will do in that event.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
January 15, 2024 10:35 am
Deadbeat
Deadbeat
  Anonymous
January 15, 2024 1:01 pm

Anyone who hasn’t at *least* done the equivalent level of study as this podcast really shouldn’t bother supporting an opinion: https://www.martyrmade.com/featured-podcasts/fear-loathing-in-the-new-jerusalem

Darren
Darren
  Anonymous
January 15, 2024 2:08 pm

The Palestinians didn’t go to Europe and attack the Zionists. The Zionists went to Palestine and started killing anyone and everyone. They’re especially good at biting the hand that feeds them.

Do you approve of the assassinations of Israel Jacob de Haan, Count Bernadotte, Lord Moyne and Yitzhak Rabin, the bombing of the King David Hotel, the attack on the US Liberty and Israel’s gift of US intelligence stolen by Jonathan Pollard to the Russians and Chinese?

William
William
  Anonymous
January 15, 2024 3:23 pm

I hate to break it to you but Israel did the October 7th false flag attack, it did 9/11, and Zionists are running our government and destroying our country. The war on the world is being done by Jewish supremacists.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  William
January 15, 2024 4:16 pm

Why would they, especially 9/11. The US is the only friend they have in the world. Clearly, at the beginning, the Israelis were no angles. But, after what had happened to them in Germany, while the Allies did nothing to save them, they probably felt it was kill or be killed. Repetitive attacks from neighbors can also tend to make people nervous. But what the Palestinians did during the intifada, and on 10/7 was barbaric. You have no proof to support your wild assertions. The Israelis didn’t need a false flag to invade Gaza and kill their own people. They merely had to wait for another rocket attack. Also, Netanyahu would not have approved such an operation because it would necessarily be seen as an intelligence failure that would cost him his job…and it probably will. You may be letting your Jew hatred cloud your reasoning.

Darren
Darren
  Anonymous
January 15, 2024 5:14 pm

Why did Israel pay Jonathan Pollard to steal more US intelligence than any other spy in history and then turn it over to the Russians and Chinese? Having been released from jail Pollard now lives in Israel where he is considered to be a hero. He’s currently making videos in support of Israel’s bombing of Gaza.

Do they do this because they like us? Because they’re grateful?

The True Nolan
The True Nolan
  Anonymous
January 15, 2024 6:29 pm

But, after what had happened to them in Germany, while the Allies did nothing to save them,

I think maybe the Allies did far too much to help save them.

Two quick points, however:

The Zionists have already pushed through laws all over the world making IT A CRIME to even freely discuss “what had happened to them in Germany”. Let’s not pretend that what happened is a settled matter. The Zionists have made sure that what happened CANNOT be settled.

Where the hell was world Jewry when the Union attacked the Confederacy? Where was world Jewry when the Russians fought the Japanese? Or when the Japanese fought the Chinese? Or Pol Pot slaughtered the Cambodians? What, everyone should save the Jews, but the Jews have no similar obligation to save others? Who the hell are you to guilt trip the Allies for not fighting the Germans the way Jews wanted them to fight? Maybe Europe’s Jews themselves should have fought back instead of riding the trains to the labor camps.

"Clearly, at the beginning"...
"Clearly, at the beginning"...
  Anonymous
January 15, 2024 6:40 pm

“Why would they?”

Whadaya call it? The Torah? The Pentateuch?

NOT a CONstitutional Scholar, like barry soetoro Biblical scholar.

The Old Testament?

Reads like a nearly continuous saga. Of Crime. And Punishment.

PLENTY of Good (Lessons) and righteous people however, ALWAYS a Faithful Remnant through the Ages.

Jew Hatred?

Nope. Just following Revelation 2:9 & 3:9

Feel Bad for the Decoys. Everywhere.

H2O2
H2O2
  Anonymous
January 15, 2024 8:17 pm

You may be letting your Jew hatred cloud your reasoning.

… and you may be a yid bot, reasoning in a cloud of self-righteousness.

Darren
Darren
  Anonymous
January 15, 2024 2:03 pm

Do you support Israel? Then you MUST fund Hamas according to Netanyahu.

Haaretz:

‘Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,’ Netanyahu told a meeting of his Likud party’s Knesset members in March 2019. “This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”

Defector
Defector
January 15, 2024 10:25 am

Why take it so close to your heart?
You have learnt something from him?
Is it useful? If so, use it.
He said something you do not like?
Well he said that, not you.
Move along.
You have made an idol of man, now suffer, it is your fault.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Defector
January 15, 2024 11:24 am

We must remember that at least according to my Faith there has been only one perfect man, and he was murdered by his government.

Defector
Defector
  Harrington Richardson
January 15, 2024 11:49 am

I see no contradiction between our points of view.
The perfect man has sacrificed himself which he could easily avoid.
The governement was just an instrument.
We just must be grateful.

Darren
Darren
  Harrington Richardson
January 15, 2024 2:14 pm

John:8

38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Defector
January 15, 2024 12:13 pm

Com’on, man.
What’s a little genocide support, between friends?

Defector
Defector
  Anonymous
January 15, 2024 12:30 pm

The point of the article was not genocide.
The point was a painful loss of an ilusion.
Imagine, Peterson supports genocide, and the author does not.
And he has revered Peterson oh so much.
Dedication of an entire article to how his feelings were hurt and how pissed off he was?
Rather than just saying that he condemns the genocide, which most of us do, me included.
And that does not even take an article.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
January 15, 2024 11:20 am

I’m with Peterson.

Defector
Defector
  Harrington Richardson
January 15, 2024 11:52 am

Consider yourself ( Buddha).

Darren
Darren
  Harrington Richardson
January 15, 2024 2:10 pm

How much money have you donated to the IDF? Or are you happy to just send them my tax money?

m
m
January 15, 2024 12:04 pm

For the record, the original tweet:

Isn’t it amazing, how pretty much the whole ‘Intellectual Dark Web’ has now become a bunch of moral sellouts?

The BOTH of 'em, @ #peternet ?
The BOTH of 'em, @ #peternet ?
  m
January 15, 2024 6:17 pm

Gonna learn the FINAL way

Deuteronomy 32:35 “To me [belongeth] vengeance, and recompence; their foot shall slide in [due] time: for the day of their calamity [is] at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.”

“Vengeance, and recompence”: The manner and timing of the repayment of man’s wickedness is God’s prerogative. This principle is reaffirmed in the New Testament in (Rom. 12:19; Heb. 10:30).

The problem with retaliation is that it can start an endless cycle. Human beings cannot be trusted to exact proper “vengeance, and recompense” (Psalm 94:1; Rom. 12:19; Heb. 10:30). The manner and timing in which wickedness is repaid is God’s alone.

Romans 12:19 “Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but [rather] give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance [is] mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.”

Their evil ways will be their downfall. Unfaithfulness to the LORD will bring calamity upon them from the LORD Himself.

Romans 2:5 “But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;”

Raven
Raven
January 15, 2024 12:13 pm

Bravo, JR Leach, be your own hero. Everything you seek is inside of you, waiting to be released. Welcome to the Awakening.

Old Guest
Old Guest
January 15, 2024 4:01 pm

Man is flawed, why are so many shocked? Look at the body of work not the last page read.

flash
flash
January 15, 2024 4:39 pm

Scrutinizer getting all googled-eyed , no doubt.

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NS
NS
January 15, 2024 5:38 pm

We all knew (or should have known) on June 5, 2021 that Dr JBP was an eager sell-out and a shill when he said, ‘Get The Damned Vaccine’ (https://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=235468).
.
Unsurprisingly, his eagerness to sell-out and be a shill was 100% re-confirmed on Dec 6, 2022 by his “embarrassing, fawning interview of Israeli President Benjamin Netanyahu” which was posted on YouTube (https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=63494).
.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
January 15, 2024 9:55 pm

To summarize: Wah, wah, wah!

the battleground of ideas is cluttered with contradictions

Truth is without contradiction within itself and with its context, yah idiot (((Jebus))) lovers. You are not rational and do not seek the truth. You seek narrative salve to set you free. And isn’t that all that Joe Biden seeks.

For the cheap seats, the NWO is the JWO. Suddenly the data is very fucking consistent. Do you want the peace of mind of knowing you’ve been had, that all of your glorious morality and religion is a heap of lies going back 2,500 years?

No, you don’t.

If you want the truth about Jordan Peterson, just that, this is it, the video “Jordan Peterson Dismantled”. Behold, herd muthafuckas:

Now, where is Abigail? Has she been heard from since the big hullabaloo of three days ago? If not, why? I thought she would be too plucky to go ghost. I have to wonder if she has been B, B, B—is prohibited from posting. I hope you are doing well, AA.

As a reminder, the video “Hopium Crisis” (on Bitchute) is a great short video.

Goat!
Goat!
  'Reality' Doug
January 15, 2024 10:38 pm

Good vid on Peterson.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Goat!
January 15, 2024 10:46 pm

True dat.