The Most Dangerous Conservative

Guest Post by John Stossel

The New York Times put Charles Murray on the cover of its Sunday Magazine, calling him “The Most Dangerous Conservative.”

That was after he co-wrote the book, “The Bell Curve,” which argued that different ethnic groups have, on average, different IQs. As Murray puts it in my video this week, “Blacks on average have a lower IQ than whites. However, whites are not at the top. East Asians, on average, have a higher IQ than whites. Ashkenazi Jews have higher IQs.”

Other researchers agree.

An article in ScienceDirect journal puts it this way, “East Asians and their descendants average an IQ of about 106, Europeans and their descendants about 100, and Africans and their descendants about 85.”

But many people don’t believe it. Many don’t even want such topics discussed.

Last time Murray tried speaking to college students, a mob shouted him down.

“They’re angry at you because you’re perpetuating racism,” I tell Murray.

“These kids,” he replies, “never read a word of anything I’d ever written.”

That’s probably true. It’s more likely that they just read slander against him from smear sites like the Southern Poverty Law Center.

They call Murray a “white nationalist” and claim he says, “White men … are intellectually, psychologically and morally superior.”

“I’ve never said anything remotely like that!” says Murray.

“Do you believe that Blacks are intellectually inferior?” I ask.

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“If you give mental tests to a representative sample of whites and a representative sample of blacks,” he says, “there will be about a one standard deviation difference. To then translate that into people being inferior and superior is idiotic.”

He goes on to say that there are other differences between racial groups.

“I don’t think there’s been a white winner of the 100-yard dash in the Olympics for a zillion years.”

Actually, 20 years. A white woman won 20 years ago; a white man hasn’t won for 40 years.

It’s probably because some Black people have more fast-twitch muscles fibers, says Murray.

I don’t see why saying that is controversial. It’s just obvious that there are differences between groups.

But Murray has been canceled.

It’s too bad.

Everything should be talked about. People who don’t agree with Charles Murray should debate him, not shun him.

He is good at revealing unpopular truths.

He once had a job working for the government, evaluating social programs. He discovered that the “War on Poverty” was not lifting people out of poverty. In fact, programs like welfare perpetuated poverty.

He wrote a book about that titled “Losing Ground.”

It soon became a bestseller, and influenced presidents from both parties. Welfare “reformers” Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton cited Murray’s work. Clinton said, “Murray has done the country a service.”

Then Murray wrote “In Pursuit of Happiness and Good Government” — a book that changed my thinking.

He describes his time as a Peace Corps volunteer in Thailand. He watched Thai government “experts” create what they said would be a “model community.” They gave the village a fishpond, a rice cooperative, a health clinic. But this aid diminished community activities.

“They weren’t as happy as they used to be,” says Murray. “I saw what government looks like from Bangkok and how it looks to the villager. It’s the same in the United States.”

The United States has spent $25 trillion (so far) on our War on Poverty. But the poverty rate has stayed about the same. Instead of eliminating poverty, the War created a new “underclass” — fatherless kids who give birth to other fatherless kids — generations of families who become dependent on government handouts.

Yet the programs keep growing.

“Aren’t you upset?” I ask Murray.

“I’m deeply depressed,” he says. “We have watched, in our own lifetime, our hopes and dreams turned to smoldering ruins.”

Then he smiles and says, “The good news is that old people are habitually too pessimistic.”

Charles Murray, an emeritus scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, has interesting ideas. They deserve to be heard, not shouted down.

I will do a second video, covering more of his work, in a few weeks.

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57 Comments
zappalives
zappalives
January 24, 2024 12:56 pm

Whats the big deal ?
You have a female nigger SCOTUS member who doesnt know the difference between a male and a female.
Niggers are dumber than a bag of donkeyballs.

Yahsure
Yahsure
  zappalives
January 24, 2024 9:08 pm

As long as you put it nicely like that.

AnonNoMores
AnonNoMores
  zappalives
January 24, 2024 10:13 pm

Well, the people are retarded!

https://youtu.be/De4_ZqMwuOg?si=mbHRN_cIFY1uXqrI

eraser
eraser
January 24, 2024 1:58 pm

Jimmy the Greek 2.0. People that hate truth hate facts as well.

flash
flash
January 24, 2024 2:22 pm
Simplicus Carpenteria
Simplicus Carpenteria
  flash
January 24, 2024 5:44 pm

Something about “giving away the milk for free disincentivising actual ownership of the cow ” ? Papa may have been a Rollin Stone but he had to have had a lot of help .

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
January 24, 2024 2:29 pm

I went to school with a couple of blacks at the far right side of the curve. Both had two parents who were well-educated, cared about learning, and pushed their kids. I do believe that IQ CAN be increased, especially from generation to generation…but certainly NOT by the government schools, the mainstream media, or social media. I have no doubt that unschooled and some homeschooled kids likely test quite higher than average.

m
m
  MrLiberty
January 24, 2024 3:11 pm

Don’t fall for the nurture bullshit.
It cannot be increased.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  m
January 24, 2024 3:34 pm

It can definitely be decreased, though.

A cruel accountant
A cruel accountant
  Iska Waran
January 24, 2024 6:03 pm

This is how they decrease it

Anon y mous
Anon y mous
  A cruel accountant
January 25, 2024 7:15 pm

I just lost 30seconds precious of my life. Gross. Pretty sure my IQ went down a few points in the process of watching that.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anon y mous
January 25, 2024 9:10 pm

I didn’t watch the above video. With a dead average 100 IQ,i can’t afford to lose a single point.

Simplicus Carpenteria
Simplicus Carpenteria
  Iska Waran
January 24, 2024 6:07 pm

Well and the question that has long been in my mind is that the odds of the quality of nurturing you are going to get from the very “nature ” that was your genetic inheritance ( someones two low IQ biological parents for instance ) is going to make the distinction between nature and nurture not mute but at least less of a meaningful distinction ?self perpetuating ? Zero to like Three years old is absolutely formative . I’ve never really been able to explain what I am getting at here and probably this attempt is no different . Which is totally on me and my limitations .

The True Nolan
The True Nolan
  m
January 25, 2024 7:46 pm

It CAN be increased — but no, not by nurture. It can be increased by breeding for it. Sadly, “eugenics” is a dirty word. But that does not mean eugenics is not effective, that it doesn’t work.

How could one ethically have a eugenics program to raise African IQ? The simplest and most moral way would be simple bribery. Pay African women $10,000 if they get pregnant with high IQ Black sperm donors. Would make sense to stick to happily married women so that a father is around. No need to even tell the women’s husband… Pay ’em $25,000 if they get pregnant from in vitro where the egg and the sperm are BOTH from high IQ donors.

If $25,000 sounds too high, think how much money, effort, and heartbreak, would be saved by having a Thomas Sowell born instead of a George Floyd.

Steve Z.
Steve Z.
  MrLiberty
January 24, 2024 7:28 pm

There is only marginal improvement even with excellent nurturing….about 5-7 points.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Steve Z.
January 24, 2024 7:55 pm

that sounds about right. but murray doesn’t claim that iq is 100% hereditary – only that it is 40-80% hereditary – at least that is the number i recall from the bell curve when i read it a billion years ago. i can’t believe that it is still so controversial. but i think i heard him state a couple of years ago that heredity is probably closer to 80 than to 40.

this is one reason that miscegenation is such a shame. who would want to produce stupid children?

finally iq is not the same as knowledge.

m
m
  Steve Z.
January 25, 2024 1:31 am

How do you know its improvement [of IQ], and not just making full use of your [unchangeable] potential?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  MrLiberty
January 24, 2024 9:33 pm

IQ isnt something that increases… you can take IQ tests when you are young or old, you arent going to test any differently. If you did, then it wouldnt be a quotient.

You can meet your maximum aptitude, but you wont exceed it. It is like saying if you trained really hard you could be the fastest person alive without having received the genetic musculature and leverage to support this goal.

Folks like you represent, at best, the range of the average that believes because they may be slightly sharper that the average person that they meet, this implies their a higher intellect. But, fact is you dont understand much of anything as is representative of your lack of understanding of the test or what it measures.

the average range +/- 1 standard deviation is 68% of the population which extends into the 84%’ile. The people who have never ever test anything or competed in anything at a level above the 84%’ile probably would do well to continually remind themselves that they are at best still in the clump of average.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Anonymous
January 25, 2024 12:35 am

IQ in fact changes by age. I really hate it when morons spout shit without having a clue. IQ declines with age.

https://metafact.io/factchecks/1286-does-iq-decrease-with-age

VOWG
VOWG
  Llpoh
January 25, 2024 9:19 am

I will tell you what decreases with age, my actually giving a f***.

A cruel accountant
A cruel accountant
  Llpoh
January 25, 2024 1:59 pm

Hopefully wisdom increases with age!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
January 25, 2024 9:13 pm

My tested IQ is 100.Dead average for a White man. However,i do have a work ethic,some common sense, real curiosity,and an absolutely stellar bullshyte detector. Life’s good.

Andy
Andy
  MrLiberty
January 25, 2024 1:08 am

Thomas Sowell has studied the concept of IQ vs race and takes a much different stand than his peer Charles Murray. Sowell’s in depth research pretty much is in agreement with what Mr. Liberty has to say.

Defector
Defector
January 24, 2024 3:15 pm

IQ is a measure of the part of the intelligence that is measurable.
I have seen people with high IQ making judgements that later became obviously wrong.
Look no further than plandemics.

Simplicus Carpenteria
Simplicus Carpenteria
  Defector
January 24, 2024 5:55 pm

Plus , and I like to point this out , intelligence has no direct correlation with virtue . As the author points out the Ashkenazi are at the top of the curve . You take a really intelligent person who is up to no good and man can they go bad spectacularly . I am in no way inferring that all Ashkenazis are bad , just that when they do they definitely make a larger negative impact . look at Soros, I dont know that he is Ashkenazi amd in fact have never heard that , but man has the presence of his evil genius been felt all over the globe ( no offense to the flat earthers lol ).

m
m
  Simplicus Carpenteria
January 25, 2024 1:34 am

I actually now believe intelligence is slightly negatively correlated with [real] virtue, on average.

Defector
Defector
  m
January 25, 2024 1:13 pm

There must be more to that.
The application of metrics seems inappropriate.
And maybe the phenomenon measured is nonexistent or of insignificant relevance.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Defector
January 25, 2024 9:15 pm

Perhaps they simply followed the money.

TampaRed
TampaRed
January 24, 2024 3:27 pm

while iq is obviously important,in most cases it is not as important as attitude & culture —

GNL
GNL
  TampaRed
January 24, 2024 9:38 pm

And persistance and work ethic.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  TampaRed
January 25, 2024 12:39 am

Tampa – gotta disagree there. That half of the population with IQs under 100 will, no matter how much attitude and culture they have, never be an Einstein, and will never be capable of feats requiring outstanding reasoning skills. In fact, if you take all of them in the world and put them to work trying to invent say calculus, they simply would never be able to do it.

The world has developed on the genius of a relative few percentage of the population, and that genius has been implemented by the labor of the many.

It is what it is. Less able do the work, more able do the thinking.

m
m
  Llpoh
January 25, 2024 1:36 am

So how many Einsteins do we need?

Or phrased differently:
How would a world look like where everybody were an Einstein?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  m
January 25, 2024 1:58 am

einstein was a fraud.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Anonymous
January 25, 2024 4:09 am

Another moron chimes in. What he did in 1905 changed the world and continues to do so. In fact, what he did was so astonishing that some wonder if he was an alien planted on earth to jumpstart scientific knowledge. He never matched that brilliance again, but he needn’t, as what he did in 1905 will endure.

m
m
  Llpoh
January 26, 2024 4:01 am

Bullshit.
The puzzle pieces were mostly already known, he only was an enough out-of-the-box thinker to put them together in a new way.

And he didn’t see Black Holes coming [out of his own theory], and even at first disputed the person who came up with it.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  m
January 25, 2024 4:05 am

We need enough of them. If everyone was an Einstein in a range of fields, no telling where we might end up. Maybe we destroy ourselves. Maybe we reach the stars. But it is all mute because world IQ is plummeting. Idiots are surviving and multiplying as Darwinism isn’t at play anymore. The gene pool is getting shallower by the minute.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Llpoh
January 25, 2024 6:47 am

mute?

A cruel accountant
A cruel accountant
  Llpoh
January 25, 2024 2:02 pm

Floppy

Who would dig the ditches?

m
m
  Llpoh
January 25, 2024 2:35 pm

“Maybe we[‘d] destroy ourselves.”

Not just maybe.

VOWG
VOWG
  Llpoh
January 25, 2024 9:23 am

I once had a discussion with some friends about original thought and how limited it actually is. We build on the thoughts and ideas of others, as you say.

A cruel accountant
A cruel accountant
  Llpoh
January 25, 2024 2:01 pm

Don’t we still need ditch diggers?

Trapped in Portlandia
Trapped in Portlandia
January 24, 2024 3:59 pm

God damn reality. It keeps getting in the way of the Progressive utopia.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 24, 2024 6:21 pm

A lot of the Blacks have enough White blood by now they raised their IQ’s 20 points…exceptions exist…take the cackling boon Kamala for example

10ffgrid
10ffgrid
  Anonymous
January 24, 2024 8:05 pm

She isn’t “black.”

Werner
Werner
  10ffgrid
January 25, 2024 1:13 am

Like a lot of ’em, she is “black” when it helps her overcome her own deficiencies.

Steve Z.
Steve Z.
January 24, 2024 7:24 pm

…….waiting for the NBA and NFL to have teams representative of the US population. No more than 15% blacks on any team.
……..still waiting.

10ffgrid
10ffgrid
  Steve Z.
January 24, 2024 8:06 pm

That would be “walkin’ the walk.”

Yahsure
Yahsure
  Steve Z.
January 24, 2024 9:10 pm

I don’t see any women or short Asians either. Mexicans? Racists!

Jim N
Jim N
January 24, 2024 7:58 pm

Stossel should spend some time reading and reporting on Murray’s “Human Accomplishment”.

ICE-9
ICE-9
January 24, 2024 8:49 pm

Yeah, but look at all the smart people who failed their IQ Test from 2021 onward. IQ is useless without common sense.

m
m
  ICE-9
January 27, 2024 4:22 am

IQ is useless without morals.

rhsjr
rhsjr
January 24, 2024 10:39 pm

There are a lot more biological differences between Whites and blacks than pigment, IQ and sprinting.

Muscledawg
Muscledawg
January 25, 2024 4:56 pm

After reading thru all the comments I did not see one of our TBPers claim to have read his book “The Bell Curve”. Maybe you should go to the library and check it out. I have a copy and have read it @25 yrs ago. Try it, you might like it Mikey.

rhsjr
rhsjr
  Muscledawg
January 25, 2024 11:53 pm

I have it and read it.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 25, 2024 7:30 pm

Largest racial group failing in a modern society are blacks . Schools , jobs especially government employment has literally been handed to this group and special allowances for failure in the private sector with DEI , yet still a huge percentage are failures .
Considering IQ as a factor is only logical when the Baltimore school system hands out diplomas for a 1.6 GPA but spends more per student than any other school system of similar size .
Oh it’s also run by a majority of blacks and has the largest number of Administration employees making $100k plus !
Meanwhile black students are totally left behind
I know sounds racist , the last card to play from the bottom of the deck

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
January 25, 2024 9:18 pm

Might as well fund some high paying admin. jobs. Black students aren’t going to learn much regardless.

rhsjr
rhsjr
  Anonymous
January 25, 2024 11:56 pm

Why over pay blacks; TPTB want to finance their becoming Lords of the Manors and their Communist Revolution?