GREENWALD CALLS OBAMA NSA REFORM A JOKE

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ragman
ragman
January 18, 2014 8:36 am

Admin: Good for Washington State! About the only thing left to fuck them up us something like this. Ostracize the employees. Refuse to provide services to the worthless fuckers that are a part of this. Hit ’em in the pocketbook if you can.

Stucky
Stucky
January 18, 2014 9:04 am

Nig-Oreo said there has been no evidence of abuse in NSA programs. That means he does not consider any of the following abuse;

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The NSA spied on the porn and phone sex habits of ideological opponents, including those with no significant ties to extremists, and including a US person.

According to the NSA in 2009, it had a program similar to Project Minaret — the tracking of anti-war opponents in the 1970s — in which it spied on people in the US in the guise of counterterrorism without approval. We still don’t have details of this abuse.

When the NSA got FISC approval for the Internet (2004) and phone (2006) dragnets, NSA did not turn off features of Bush’s illegal program that did not comply with the FISC authorization. These abuses continued until 2009 (one of them, the collection of Internet metadata that qualified as content, continued even after 2004 identification of those abuses).

Even after the FISC spent 9 months reining in some of this abuse, the NSA continued to ignore limits on disseminating US person data. Similarly, the NSA and FBI never complied with PATRIOT Act requirements to develop minimization procedures for the Section 215 program (in part, probably, because NSA’s role in the phone dragnet would violate any compliant minimization procedures).

The NSA has twice — in 2009 and 2011 — admitted to collecting US person content in the United States in bulk after having done so for years. It tried to claim (and still claims publicly in spite of legal rulings to the contrary) this US person content did not count as intentionally-collected US person content (FISC disagreed both times), and has succeeded in continuing some of it by refusing to count it, so it can claim it doesn’t know it is happening.

As recently as spring 2012, 9% of the NSA’s violations involved analysts breaking standard operating procedures they know. NSA doesn’t report these as willful violations, however, because they’ve deemed any rule-breaking in pursuit of “the mission” not to be willful violations.

In 2008, Congress passed a law allowing bulk collection of foreign-targeted content in the US, Section 702, to end the NSA’s practice of stealing Internet company data from telecom cables. Yet in spite of having a legal way to acquire such data, the NSA (through GCHQ) continues to steal data from some of the same companies, this time overseas, from their own cables. Arguably this is a violation of Section 702 of FISA.

NSA may intentionally collect US person content (including Internet metadata that legally qualifies as content) overseas (it won’t count this data, so we don’t know how systematic it is). If it does, it may be a violation of Section 703 of FISA.

Stucky
Stucky
January 18, 2014 9:12 am

And if you have a few minutes, listen to the OTHER great Presidential speech;

Stucky
Stucky
January 18, 2014 11:23 am

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Iska Waran
Iska Waran
January 18, 2014 12:11 pm

This whole discussion about the NSA and spying reminds me of the discussion about Catholic clergy sexual abuse. It’s all a bunch of non sequiturs. If someone fucks children, we don’t need a “time of healing”. We need to throw them in prison for a long time (as well as any bishops who conspired and were, in fact, accomplices after the fact). Similarly, this NSA stuff is not about “balancing privacy concerns with the need to stop terrorism”. It should be about making sure the Constitution is adhered to – especially the 4th amendment. Obviously Obama doesn’t give a shit about the Constitution, but there ought to be at least a couple of media jackals who can reference the constitutional issues. I don’t give a shit if we spied on Angela Merkel. She’s not a US citizen. I don’t give a shit about the privacy of any non-US-citizen anywhere. Sure there are areas of prudential judgment – whether it’s wise to risk getting caught spying on foreign leaders, for example, but those are secondary concerns – to the extent that they’re concerns at all. The argument about the the efficacy of NSA spying is also largely beside the point. The privacy defenders bring up the fact that no known terrorist attack has been stopped by NSA snooping. That’s a mildly interesting tidbit, but even if hundreds of attacks had been thwarted it wouldn’t negate the primary need to follow the constitution. You wanna spy on a US citizen? Get a fucking warrant.