THE WAR PHOTO NO ONE WOULD PUBLISH

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Posted on 10th August 2014 by Administrator in Economy |Politics |Social Issues

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The Iraqi soldier died attempting to pull himself up over the dashboard of his truck. The flames engulfed his vehicle and incinerated his body, turning him to dusty ash and blackened bone. In a photograph taken soon afterward, the soldier’s hand reaches out of the shattered windshield, which frames his face and chest. The colors and textures of his hand and shoulders look like those of the scorched and rusted metal around him. Fire has destroyed most of his features, leaving behind a skeletal face, fixed in a final rictus. He stares without eyes.

On February 28, 1991, Kenneth Jarecke stood in front of the charred man, parked amid the carbonized bodies of his fellow soldiers, and photographed him. At one point, before he died this dramatic mid-retreat death, the soldier had had a name. He’d fought in Saddam Hussein’s army and had a rank and an assignment and a unit. He might have been devoted to the dictator who sent him to occupy Kuwait and fight the Americans. Or he might have been an unlucky young man with no prospects, recruited off the streets of Baghdad.

The Atlantic, The War Photo No One Would Publish

133 Comments
  1. Nonanonymous says:

    Who was it who said, war is hell? I don’t suppose things have changed all that much.

    How is this soldier different from any other soldier who has died in battle?

    Is Admin a pacifist? Careful, that is exactly what the feds will be attempting to accomplish should a police state arise, pacification.

    Or, is that soldier a hero, having died defending his country from a foreign invader? Yes, and no. The hero will have fought against tyranny in all and any of it’s varied forms, the true enemy being ignorance. At least Admin acknowledges there is nothing we can know about this individual, good or bad.

    Believing the truth of God’s word, and taking action on that belief is the highest form of service.

    With that, I will bid this thread adieu.

    10th August 2014 at 7:06 am

  2. Sensetti says:

    Sunnis are gathering together again in northern Iraq creating a target rich environment. We’ve allowed them to gather some of our weapons of war left behind in an attempt to give them the appearance of a formidable opponent.
    When the time is right we will fly around the clock sorties creating many more well done jihadist’.

    Dumbass ragheads have no idea they are being stood up like pins on a bowling lane with the same chance of defeating the ball.

    10th August 2014 at 7:09 am

  3. Administrator says:

    Sensetti

    You actually believe your country will “defeat” the “enemy”. Who is the enemy Sensetti?

    You never fucking heard of ISIS until one month ago. Right?

    Open your fucking eyes and stop with the patriotic rally around the flag bullshit.

    These ragheads don’t threaten your way of life or our country.

    Let them kill each other and keep my tax dollars out of it.

    10th August 2014 at 7:16 am

  4. Administrator says:

    Nonassholeamous

    Shut the fuck up. Go pray with the rest of your bible thumper assholes.

    You faux Christians disgust me with your God bullshit blather.

    You are too fucking stupid to understand non-interventionism.

    I guess you actually believe all those propaganda crucifixion photos coming from Iraq, just like you believed the killing babies in incubators during the Gulf War.

    Are you really as stupid as you seem?

    10th August 2014 at 7:19 am

  5. Administrator says:

    The fuckwads on the local news last night were touting the success of Obama’s humanitarian bombing adventure in Iraq. They were ecstatic over the truck that had been obliterated by an Obama bomb. These fucking idiots didn’t even consider we used a $1 million bomb to blow up a $5,000 truck. The only fuckers benefitting are the US arms peddlers who will get another order for a $1 million bomb.

    The people in this country, including idiots on this site, are beyond hope with their patriotic bullshit and thinking they are winning. Jesus Christ, it’s hopeless trying to get through to idiots.

    10th August 2014 at 7:23 am

  6. Sensetti says:

    Admin back up and read my comment. The ragheads are being set up.

    10th August 2014 at 8:43 am

  7. Bostonbob says:

    Admin,
    Even better, you use a billion dollar jet (B-2) flying on tens of thousands of dollars of fuel with an expensively trained pilot dropping a million dollar bomb to destroy a $5,000 truck and we paid for all of it either in direct dollars or in funny Fed money with future inflated pay back. Oh what joy war is.
    Bob.

    10th August 2014 at 8:47 am

  8. Sensetti says:

    I am trying to figure out why this ISIS army was stood up. They did not just happen along. I believe the target is Iran but I fail to see how all the pieces fit. Yet

    10th August 2014 at 8:48 am

  9. Sensetti says:

    BTW Admin we don’t pay bills with tax dollars. The last I looked we were about a Trillion a year short of that mark. We print money to pay bills and prosecute war. Please correct me if that not accurate.

    10th August 2014 at 8:57 am

  10. Stucky says:

    Mooslims are a disease upon whatever society they infest.

    In 5 … 4… 3 …, your cue to inform me that not all mooslims are bad, only a small minority are radical, most are peace loving, blah blah blah.

    Two weeks ago … in NJ, Yusuf Ibrahim, 28 … beheaded two Coptic Christians, burying their bodies and heads and hands in separate graves ………

    http://www.theminorityreportblog.com/2013/02/25/two-christians-beheaded-in-new-jersey-by-muslim-man-media-silent/
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    Germany has 4 million mooslims. They are starting to regret it.

    “Never before have the sympathizers of Islamic terror appeared so openly in Germany …… what madness” —–— Editorial, Westfalen-Blatt.

    This German jihadist wants to blow up an American nuclear weapons storage facility in Germany
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    “For far too long, Germany’s political leaders, and especially the leaders of German Muslim organizations, have sat by and idly watched the proliferation of the Salafist-jihadist hatred culture, in the purported belief that it poses no danger. It is absolutely outrageous that local politicians have played down the risk of Islamism, while the capabilities of the security authorities are increasingly being overstretched by the need to deal with this threat. Muslim organizations should hang their heads in shame. Rather than bluntly stating that the barbarians in northern Iraq are ‘not Muslims,’ they whistle away to say that Islam is ‘only peace.’ In the future, this kind of obfuscation will no longer suffice, especially if German Muslims, who are subject to the German legal system, wish to avoid being held accountable for the killings in the name of Islam.”

    http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4590/germany-jihad#.U-c__1p1KJ8.twitter

    10th August 2014 at 8:59 am

  11. Stucky says:

    I’m not worried about any of this because Our Beloved President is, I am told, on a “working vacation”

    10th August 2014 at 9:12 am

  12. Stucky says:

    “These ragheads don’t threaten your way of life or our country.” ——— Admin

    I would only add to the end of your sentence the word “yet”. There aren’t enough of them in this country. But, once mooslims reach a certain percentage, they are a scourge on that society ….. as Germany, Sweden, England and a host of other European countries are starting to figure out. If I were President I wouldn’t allow any mooslims to immigrate here, starting immediately.

    10th August 2014 at 9:25 am

  13. Administrator says:

    Sensetti

    Debt spending is nothing but a future tax increase on unborn generations.

    10th August 2014 at 9:34 am

  14. Administrator says:

    OOHHH

    Let’s fear the Muslim invasion of America. We have 320 million people and 3 million Muslims.

    Let’s deal with the facts. Who has a problem?

    10th August 2014 at 9:41 am

  15. Sensetti says:

    Fuck it’s already beyond what future generations can repay and growing by a trillion a year. It’s meaningless true accounting standards apply not.

    10th August 2014 at 9:41 am

  16. Administrator says:

    Sensetti

    That which is unsustainable will not be sustained.

    That is why economic and social collapse are inevitable.

    Bombing non-existent enemies in far off lands is just a diversion and an acceleration of the collapse.

    Bombs & Circuses – The Fall of the American Empire

    10th August 2014 at 9:46 am

  17. Sensetti says:

    Stucky maybe we can trade our 3 million Mooslums for a few more Mexicans. I would certainly entertain that trade.

    10th August 2014 at 9:46 am

  18. Bostonbob says:

    Admin,
    At least the president picked a nice week to go to The Vineyard. I have the great fortune to be stripping the 100 hundred year old cedar shingles off the gable end of my house on my vacation. I would love the pressure of being president. I would like to see how long Barry would last standing on my roof stripping shingles with bloodied knuckles. Fuck that bomb tossing asshole, I’ve got work to do.
    Bob.

    10th August 2014 at 9:52 am

  19. Administrator says:

    Power is Power

    Posted on August 8, 2014 by Martin Armstrong

    Thomas Hobbes wrote in his seminar work the Leviathan: “Reputation of power is power, because it draweth with it the adherence of those that need protection.” Indeed, those who have observed politics and government have seen that without a doubt power draws to itself more power. This is true on an individual level as people want to know people of influence to bask in that power or if we look at the same human nature response at the governmental level. Nevertheless, the loss of that power also inspires attack where those who were once fair-weather friends truly envy that power and would take great pleasure in destroying it.

    This is human nature and it applies at the individual level as well as at the group level and finally national level. The US is in danger of the slow degeneration as its arrogance surpasses its reason. This was the very act that resulted in the collapse of Athens in 404BC. The divide between China and Russia has been mended by Obama with lightening speed. The rise in China’s power is inspiring many to flock to its circle. This is part of the shift in power to Asia that we should see in full swing post 2032.

    10th August 2014 at 9:58 am

  20. Sensetti says:

    Don’t worry about them spending your tax dollars. It’s all smoke

    The Obama administration failed to properly account for how it spent nearly $619 billion, according to a watchdog audit of the main federal website meant to track where taxpayer money is going.

    The report from the Government Accountability Office picked apart the website USASpending.gov, and the agencies feeding information to it.

    The database of government spending and contracts was created out of a 2006 transparency law, but the GAO found it continues to have serious problems. The Department of Health and Human Services was the worst offender, during the 2012 period GAO examined.

    “Although agencies generally reported information for contracts to USASpending.gov, they did not properly report information on assistance awards, totaling nearly $619 billion,” the GAO reported.

    USA Today first reported on the GAO audit.

    According to the GAO findings, funding for more than 300 programs was not reported correctly. HHS topped the list of scofflaws, failing to report or reporting late $543.8 billion worth of spending. Part of the reason the number was so high is the agency was not providing information about direct payments to individuals, like for the massive Medicaid program HHS administers.

    The Department of Veterans Affairs was next on the list, with $64 billion in spending not properly accounted for.

    Further, the report found few contracts and grants were properly reported with all the required information. The GAO found just 2-7 percent of the awards had information “fully consistent” with agencies’ own records.

    A spokesman for the White House budget office told USA Today that the administration is trying to improve the data on the site.

    “OMB is committed to federal spending transparency and working with agencies to improve the completeness and accuracy of data submissions,” he said in a statement.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/08/06/transparency-troubles-audit-finds-61b-gap-in-federal-spending-site/

    10th August 2014 at 10:06 am

  21. Stucky says:

    Admin

    I don’t fear a mooslim invasion …… yet. And, who knows … “yet” may never come.

    But, a few hundred years ago whites brought over blacks as slaves. I’m sure no one back then thought there would be racial issues down the road.

    A hundred years ago there was no problem with illegal hordes crossing our Southern border.

    My Presidential Platform would be “Nip it in the bud!”.

    10th August 2014 at 10:15 am

  22. Administrator says:

    100,000 Muslims legally immigrate to the U.S. annually. Oh the horror. They must be stopped because they are all evil and want to kill us. Let’s run around like our hair is on fire.

    How come the Asia Pacific region has almost 1 billion Muslims and is not racked with violence, war and terrorism?

    Do you think any of this has to do with poverty and hopelessness? People with jobs and a better future tend not to become radical. The Middle East is a poverty stricken hell hole created by the American Empire.

    An empire in decline needs enemies to fight so as to distract its sheeple from the disaster they have created domestically. Our new enemy is ISIS. No one had ever heard of them until a few months ago. How could that be? Do people ever think? An organized Islamic army does not just pop up over night.

    Read the Snowden thread and you might get some insight.

    10th August 2014 at 10:25 am

  23. Desertrat says:

    “How come the Asia Pacific region has almost 1 billion Muslims and is not racked with violence, war and terrorism?”

    Per quite a few news reports over the years, it is racked with Islamic violence. PI, Indonesia, Malaysia and others.

    Since long before the 1970s, absent oil exports, the GDP of the Mideast has been miniscule. Poverty has been a majority percentage for centuries.

    10th August 2014 at 10:47 am

  24. Administrator says:

    Desertrat

    There have been individual instances. The region is not racked with violence. It has been the fastest growing region economically for decades. It has 3 times as many Muslims as the Middle East, with no wars, uprisings, or non-stop violence.

    I deal with facts. You cling to your storyline of all Muslims being evil.

    Economic prosperity breeds civility and less violence.

    Iraq was doing well economically until 2003. Shia, Sunni and Christians were not killing each other. Good old American democracy sure fixed that.

    It’s the fucking American Empire that has created the violence and terror. Open your fucking eyes and wake the fuck up.

    10th August 2014 at 10:55 am

  25. Sensetti says:

    Deserat use chart and graphs on Admin he loves them. As you can tell very little terrorism minus places the US has attacked.

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    The world would be a safe place if it was not for us merikans. The lion would lay down with the lamb.
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    10th August 2014 at 12:12 pm

  26. Administrator says:

    Sensetti

    Thanks for the supporting info. 5 of the top 6 terrorist states have seen American meddling, invasion, or control for decades.

    Is that Muslim terrorism in South America?

    India is 80% Hindu and 2% Muslim. Fascinating what facts will reveal.

    10th August 2014 at 12:19 pm

  27. Administrator says:

    Where are all the Faux News Neo Con Faux Christians to tell me they hate us for our freedoms?

    I love that storyline. Brain dead Cheney worshipers always make such logical arguments.

    McCain is all over the MSM today telling us what a danger ISIS is to our freedom. I propose that Shitstain McCain, Dark Lord Cheney, and the rest of the neo-con hoard who created the disaster in Iraq parachute into the country and lead the attack against evil ISIS.

    Didn’t Shitstain McCain have a photo op in Syria with his ISIS brothers a few months ago?

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    10th August 2014 at 12:30 pm

  28. bb says:

    The real reason no one would publish his photo is the publishers would not pay him the money he thought it was worth . Some of you need to do a little more research before getting so mad at each other or at least take an anger management class.

    10th August 2014 at 12:30 pm

  29. Leobeer says:

    Re: The Global Terrorism Index

    Do you not find it odd that Israel isn’t in the top 10 ?

    10th August 2014 at 12:35 pm

  30. Sensetti says:

    Who’s blowing up India? All I know about India is bout every three years half the country takes a bath in a sewer water,shit infested river.

    10th August 2014 at 12:44 pm

  31. Nonanonymous says:

    Admin, your tax dollars? You call me an asshole, yet you have no clue about to whom this world belongs, and it’s not you, you sanctimonious prick.

    Take your own advice.

    10th August 2014 at 12:49 pm

  32. Iska Waran says:

    India is 13% Muslim. If it were 30% it would be on fire with violence.

    10th August 2014 at 1:00 pm

  33. Administrator says:

    Nonassholeamous

    You said you weren’t going to comment on the thread after your initial bullshit God drivel. Looks like you lied again.

    Go fuck yourself you fucking asshole.

    Go join the fucking army and go fight the Muslims yourself you hypocritical faux Christian douchebag.

    Be a Christian soldier and wage your holy war on behalf of your god.

    10th August 2014 at 1:01 pm

  34. Nonanonymous says:

    “It’s the fucking American Empire that has created the violence and terror. Open your fucking eyes and wake the fuck up.” – Admin

    And what would you do about it? Except, you already are, since ignorance is the enemy of truth. Even if you do stray a bit, but you can’t be held responsible for what you haven’t been taught.

    Neither is ignorance sin, except when it’s available to not be ignorant. For those who would deny the truth, you’ve been served.

    10th August 2014 at 1:01 pm

  35. Administrator says:

    Assholeamous

    Go back to Faux News and your neo-con Christian warriors for your propaganda. Be a real Christian and man up. Don’t be a pacifist. Enlist. Lead the charge against the god hating Muslim hoards.

    Your pompous ignorance appears to know no bounds. You contribute absolutely zero to this website as you blather on with your religious crap.

    Hit the fucking road. I’m sick and tired of your pollution on this site.

    10th August 2014 at 1:09 pm

  36. Nonanonymous says:

    For the time being, asshole. I bid the thread adieu, that’s French, and when I came back, you had responded to me. So, who’s the dumfuk, or do you get off on being a bully?

    My guess is the latter.

    10th August 2014 at 1:15 pm

  37. Nonanonymous says:

    “Don’t be a pacifist. Enlist.” – Admin. I did.

    “Hit the fucking road. I’m sick and tired of your pollution on this site.” – Admin. Now your getting personal.

    Thanks for your unsolicited opinion. It’s your site, and you invite comment. I suppose that only applies if it doesn’t push your buttons.

    10th August 2014 at 1:23 pm

  38. Nonanonymous says:

    Oops, left off, “again, take your own advice.”

    10th August 2014 at 1:24 pm

  39. bb says:

    Admin , you probably detest me more then anyone on this site but if it wasn’t for guys like me you would be bored . I bet we make your life more interesting then miserable So in some strange way we do contribute to this site.Maybe not the way you would like but we do contribute. Right ?…Think about it…
    Now tell this cockroach to go Fuck off and die.

    10th August 2014 at 1:32 pm

  40. Administrator says:

    Assholeamous

    When do you ship out to Iraq to make our Christian nation safe for democracy and from evil Muslims?

    I think you would be a great colonel under the wise leadership of General Shitstain McCain.

    I feel safe knowing you’re on the front lines.

    Remember. There are no atheists in foxholes.

    Onward Christian soldiers. Do gods work and slaughter women and children.

    10th August 2014 at 1:44 pm

  41. Olga says:

    Ignorance – i.e., ignore what you know you could learn.

    Nescience – not even comprehending what is not known.

    IMO the ME is a total quagmire of both ignorance and nescience concerning the greed required to store our oil under their sand.

    My sheeple-peeps are so OVER this and every other “crisis” – and I’m afraid that might be the goal – a totally disengaged populace overwhelmed and befuddled – retreating further and further into a mental cave of bread and circuses.

    Time to revisit “War is a Racket”

    http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html

    10th August 2014 at 1:55 pm

  42. Administrator says:

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    10th August 2014 at 1:59 pm

  43. Nonanonymous says:

    I’ll re-enlist to make the world safe for democracy when you swear an oath to serve and protect.

    Until then, ridicule anyone you like, shit stain. I’m not going anywhere.

    10th August 2014 at 5:13 pm

  44. Sensetti says:

    I believe ISIS will be used to attack Iran. ISIS has “stolen” 50 US Howitzers. They have 1500 up armored personel carriers.
    http://youtu.be/kI4tmX8yEKQ

    This shits gonna get real interesting real quick.

    10th August 2014 at 5:34 pm

  45. Stucky says:

    “India is 80% Hindu and 2% Muslim. Fascinating what facts will reveal.” —— Admin

    Your facts are wrong. Thanks to Iska Waran for correcting them.

    Northwest India has the highest percentage of mooslims. It is also the area with the most mooslim violence. Amazing coincidence. Kashmir … you might have heard of it … in the past decade Pakistan and India had their fingers on the nuke trigger.

    Fascinating … the facts you ignore.

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    10th August 2014 at 5:37 pm

  46. Stucky says:

    “100,000 Muslims legally immigrate to the U.S. annually. Oh the horror. They must be stopped because they are all evil and want to kill us. Let’s run around like our hair is on fire.”
    —— Admin

    Not yet. “ALL” aren’t evil or want to kill us … only about 10% will cause absolute havoc. Can you pick the right 10%? Didn’t think so.
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    “…. violence, war and terrorism? Do you think any of this has to do with poverty and hopelessness?”
    Only to some degree. There are many countries facing poverty and hopelessness. Why are they ALL violent? Because your theory is flawed.
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    “It’s the fucking American Empire that has created the violence and terror.” —- Admin

    Right. Before the American Empire violence did not exist anywhere in the world, ever. People and countries loved each other. There were no wars before 1776.

    I knew you were a mooslim-lover years ago when you posted that dead-baby pic. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, someone has to love them. You also have tunnel vision. You write about the 30 Blocks Of Squalor because you EXPERIENCE it. You personally don’t interact with a significant mooslim population, so they don’t frighten you. Someday you might have to change your mind, but by then it will be too late. Meanwhile, keep making light of it.

    You’ll probably say some mean things … you’re so sensitive. I won’t be able to read your response, if you have one … “blow me”, included … because Ms Freud and I will be leaving shortly to go see Guardians Of The Galaxy, because there are no mooslims in space.

    10th August 2014 at 5:59 pm

  47. Stucky says:

    correction

    “…. violence, war and terrorism? Do you think any of this has to do with poverty and hopelessness?”

    Only to some degree. There are many countries facing poverty and hopelessness. Why are they ALL NOT violent? Because your theory is flawed.

    10th August 2014 at 6:02 pm

  48. Stucky says:

    “I believe ISIS will be used to attack Iran. ISIS has “stolen” 50 US Howitzers. They have 1500 up armored personel carriers.” —– Sensetti

    Every time they fire a shell …. that’s one less shell in their inventory.

    Every time they fire a shell …. that’s one step closer the Howitzer needs maintenance.

    Resupply, parts, maintenance … when they can’t, then what?

    10th August 2014 at 6:05 pm

  49. Llpoh says:

    Muslims – not all, of course – are committing the vast majority of the world’s atrocities.

    If there are 3 million Muslims in the US, how many are going to be dangerous? Even 1% is 30,000 potential home grown terrorists.

    Plus they put rabbits to shame when it comes to breeding in countries they occupy.

    Admin is a smart guy. And I am truly serios about that. But I do not understand how he does not see Muslims entering the US as a threat.

    It will not end well.

    10th August 2014 at 6:18 pm

  50. Sensetti says:

    LLPOH says Admin is a smart guy. And I am truly serios about that. But I do not understand how he does not see Muslims entering the US as a threat.

    This is pure speculation on my part. It has to be all the Viagra Admin consumed while on VACA. Shunting blood away from the Ole thought processors can have a lasting effect. He’ll be ok within a couple days.

    10th August 2014 at 6:39 pm

  51. T4C says:

    Military Coup In Iraq: Prime Minister Maliki Refuses To Step Down; Security Forces On Alert, Encircle Presidential Palace

    Update 2: BAGHDAD GREEN ZONE CLOSED, TANKS DEPLOY IN CAPITAL: AL-MADA – BBG

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-10/coup-iraq-prime-minister-maliki-refuses-step-down-orders-security-forces-alert

    10th August 2014 at 6:55 pm

  52. Llpoh says:

    Sensetti – I prefer to think he is at heart a kind, gentle, tolerant man, welcoming to all he encounters. Ghandi could have learned a thing or two from the Admin.

    But then, I have been wrong on occasion.

    10th August 2014 at 6:55 pm

  53. Sensetti says:

    Your probably right LLPOH

    10th August 2014 at 7:01 pm

  54. Sensetti says:

    Thanks for the heads up T4C

    10th August 2014 at 7:05 pm

  55. Desertrat says:

    admin, I guess we could argue about “racked”, but I’m certainly factually correct about Mindanao, Acer and Malaysia.

    Yes, the Asian countries of the “Asian Tiger” group have done well. Indonesia may make up in coal sales to China what it has lost from having to end the export of oil.

    But the non-oil GDP of the MENA countries is about equal to the GDP of Denmark.

    Western women can wear bikinis, drive cars, own businesses which employ men, go dancing, drink booze…Are these not freedoms? All that is part of why mullahs call us “The Great Satan”. They don’t care if we vote or don’t vote. And note the official word of Mohammed about the mythical crime called “apostasy”.

    10th August 2014 at 7:17 pm

  56. Administrator says:

    Is it 1% dangerous Muslims per llpoh or 10% per Stuck. The detailed analysis is too overwhelming for me to respond.

    You numnuts are so fearful you think it is just fine for the US to go around the world droning, invading, shelling, bombing, and generally pissing off the entire world.

    It’s amazing how interested the American empire became in the Muslim world when oil was discovered beneath their sand.

    Please clarify your idiotic positions for me.

    Do you favor using $1 million bombs on $5000 trucks in a country 10,000 miles from the US?

    Which Muslim enemy should I root for or against? Should I root for ISIS in Syria against the non-Muslim Assad? Should I root for the Sunni Muslims or Shia Muslims in Iraq?

    Are the Pakistani Muslims good guys because they are our allies?

    Should we deport the Irish along with the Muslims? Remember the IRA? Damn Irish muslim terrorists.

    I’m glad to see Stuck and LLPOH are in favor of spending $1 trillion per year we don’t have fighting a never ending War on Terror against a bunch of raghead camel jockeys. They are true libertarians.

    Stuck – learn about blowback and then blow me.

    10th August 2014 at 7:19 pm

  57. Administrator says:

    Stuck & Llpoh

    So Malaki, the democratically elected leader of Iraq, is about to be overthrown. Do you think the American Empire has anything to do with the overthrow? Do you think the new figurehead we install will be the solution?

    I’m so confused. Is Malaki a good guy or bad guy? Was Mubarak a good guy until he wasn’t? Was Hussein our great ally against evil Iran or was he part of the axis of evil?

    I think if we just get a more involved in the Middle East our Muslim problems will be solved. Don’t you think so?

    Democracy, American Empire style.

    10th August 2014 at 7:33 pm

  58. Desertrat says:

    Back to the photo: After Desert Storm, my son and some buddies went up to the “Highway of Death”. He’s always been a pretty tough kid, blasé about a lot of stuff. But he didn’t really have much to say about that scene.

    10th August 2014 at 7:44 pm

  59. Anonymous says:

    Nonanonymous – yet another “hijack the thread, ANY thread, on any board/forum/blog” religious zealot to promote your particular God as the cause and salvation of mankind then run away before you are required to prove your case, which of course you have ZERO chance of doing.
    No matter what has happened, from the morning toast being darker than usual to the waves on the beach being bigger than normal to yet another war/social upheaval/crisis that adorns mankind’s entire (scientifically proven longer than religion doctrine allows for) history, it’s Gods’ will, so bow down and pray all you backward savages or go to hell forever.
    Yep – you have a right to speak and I have a right to call BS in response.
    It’s long overdue in my opinion to end all these backward religions engaging in psychological pedophilia. ie brainwashing children to believe or risk suffering eternal hell fire for all time.
    Religion – the legal horror movie.

    10th August 2014 at 7:56 pm

  60. ZDsBro says:

    Nonanonymous – yet another “hijack the thread, ANY thread, on any board/forum/blog” religious zealot to promote your particular God as the cause and salvation of mankind then run away before you are required to prove your case, which of course you have ZERO chance of doing.
    No matter what has happened, from the morning toast being darker than usual to the waves on the beach being bigger than normal to yet another war/social upheaval/crisis that adorns mankind’s entire (scientifically proven longer than religion doctrine allows for) history, it’s Gods’ will, so bow down and pray all you backward savages or go to hell forever.
    Yep – you have a right to speak and I have a right to call BS in response.
    It’s long overdue in my opinion to end all these backward religions engaging in psychological pedophilia. ie brainwashing children to believe or risk suffering eternal hell fire for all time.
    Religion – the legal horror movie.

    10th August 2014 at 7:56 pm

  61. Zarathustra says:

    I remember clearly the video of the evil Muslims dancing, flicking lighters like they were at a rock concert and high fiving, on the top of their van when the 757 hit the world trade center.

    Oh wait, they were Jews…

    10th August 2014 at 8:00 pm

  62. Reverse Engineer says:

    ““These ragheads don’t threaten your way of life or our country.” ——— Admin”

    Well, if they shut off the Oil taps from Iraq, followed by Saudi Arabia, our “Way of Life” is not just threatened, it is OVAH.

    However, the futility of dropping Bombs on these folks to keep the Oil flowing is pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain. We periodically bomb the living shit out of them for the last 20 years and it’s not putting any more Oil in the ground there.

    RE

    10th August 2014 at 8:28 pm

  63. IndenturedServant says:

    test

    10th August 2014 at 8:31 pm

  64. IndenturedServant says:

    Man! Fire is about the worst possible death I could imagine. I’ll take drowning, gunshot or a ride through a tree chipper before fire!

    10th August 2014 at 8:41 pm

  65. IndenturedServant says:

    Don’t be harshin’ admins mellow while he’s on vacation! A little r&r is probably the only thing that keeps him from pullin’ the plug on this place.

    10th August 2014 at 8:47 pm

  66. mabuk says:

    As someone living in the “terror zone” of Indonesia for close to a decade, my experience is still limited to just this particular variety of SEA Muslims, but I am skeptical. This Muslim meme is just the new red scare, typically used in service of false flag ops and keeping idiots scared under their beds. When sectarian violence has arisen here in Indonesia — and it has in the past, and it has been bloody — the issues arise over competing claims/challenges along tribal/religious/clan/political lines, with Muslim/Christian dynamics applied as a conventional lens to view it. You may as well interpret border strife in Africa between two nations as some sort of nationalist movement, when in fact those borders were drawn so late in the game by colonial powers that they are almost worthless to the narrative. Bottom line, the storyline often cuts much deeper, like an endless Hatfield/McCoy blood feud.

    I honestly expected more skepticism of packaged MSM pablum here, but I guess everyone has their favorite boogeyman. It was Stucky (correctly I think) that has come to the defense several times of the children being bombed out of existence in Afghanistan and elsewhere, but to be intellectually consistent, if people are on board with criminalizing a religion, then it probably follows that those same people should get behind bombing Muslims — all of them, regardless of age — out of existence. Perhaps add some of the *correct* scripture to the bombs and ensure those kids get to heaven.

    10th August 2014 at 8:48 pm

  67. Administrator says:

    IS

    Vacation is over. Back to work tomorrow.

    10th August 2014 at 8:52 pm

  68. Administrator says:

    Mabuk

    Thanks for some real life perspective from someone living amongst the evil Muslims.

    Stuck is an expert in muslimology having lived in NJ for decades. His knowledge of all things Muslim is unquestioned.

    10th August 2014 at 8:55 pm

  69. llpoh says:

    Admin suggests I am advocating US involvement. I am advocating no such thing, and would like to see total non-involvement by the US, or any other nation for that matter, in the affairs of the middle east – fuck them all, and let them sort it out themselves.

    I am simply acknowledging reality – that almost all the world’s atrocities can be laid at the feet of Muslims.

    Muslims have no right of entry into the US – none whatsoever. Letting Muslims emigrate to the US will prove a mistake, in my humble opinion. It will not end well.

    This is a link to a list of the world’s terrorist organizations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_organizations

    Notice a common thread among those groups? Of course you do. Amazing how many Christian groups there are, isn’t it?

    10th August 2014 at 8:57 pm

  70. Administrator says:

    Military Coup In Iraq: Prime Minister Maliki Refuses To Step Down; Security Forces On Alert, Encircle Presidential Palace

    Submitted by Tyler Durden on 08/10/2014 17:53 -0400

    Just days after the US launched a campaign that implicitly aides the current regime headed by the supposedly outgoing PM, al-Maliki, it appears that latest US intervention has already led to “unexpected” consequences, this time with the prime minister appearing to have just staged a coup overthrowing Iraq’s president President Fouad Massoum moments ago.

    Reuters reports that the prime minister “indicated that he will not drop his bid for a third term and accused the president of violating the constitution in a tough televised speech likely to deepen political tensions as a Sunni insurgency rages. Maliki, seen as an authoritarian and sectarian leader, has defied calls by Sunnis, Kurds, some fellow Shi’ites and regional power broker Iran to step aside for a less polarising figure who can unite Iraqis against Islamic State militants.

    The days of Iraq’s president appear numbered:

    Bloomberg adds that Maliki says he’s going to federal court to sue President Fouad Masoum for violating the constitution, according to comments made to Iraqi state television. President Masoum in breach when he extended constitutional period for chosing a candidiate to form government and for missing deadline for new period, according to Maliki. Maliki adds that Masoum is in a “coup against the poilitical process” that would lead “Iraq into a dark tunnel.” Maliki warned Presidential council, parliament and federal court about Masoum.

    The news has promptly led the WaPo Beirut chief correspondent Liz Sly to ask the question: did Baghdad just have a coup 3 days after the US conducted its fourth military intervention under as many US presidents?

    Others are inclined to agree:

    And according to less credible sources, the army is already in play:

    Odd timing indeed. One thing is certain: the US will not let this crisis go to waste either.

    However, what makes this particular development especially interesting is that a very organized ISIS is already doing its best to conquer the Iraq capital. A very disorganized army coup may be all that was needed to facilitate this goal, and to put the Iraq oil trade “in play” once again.

    And the worst news of all: Obama two-week vacation on Martha’s Vineyard is ruined one day after it started.

    * * *

    Update: things are not looking good:

    Update 2: BAGHDAD GREEN ZONE CLOSED, TANKS DEPLOY IN CAPITAL: AL-MADA – BBG

    10th August 2014 at 9:01 pm

  71. llpoh says:

    What I hear from Muslim leaders in the US is how not all Muslims are bad, and it is awful how good Muslims are tarred with the same brush as the bad terrorist types.

    What bullshit.

    What they should be doing is condemning this bullshit with every breath.

    But no-o-o-o-o. They instead cry “poor little us is being prejudiced against.”

    What a steaming pile of shit.

    10th August 2014 at 9:05 pm

  72. Administrator says:

    I see the Irish Republican Army is still on the list. Aren’t they a “Christian” group?

    It will not end well for any of us. We’re all dead in the end.

    Don’t worry. The surveillance warfare state will monitor the 3 million Muslims and keep you safe from the thousands of terrorists who want to blow us up. See something, say something. Support SOPA and DHS and the NSA.

    People are not the problem. Governments and power hungry “leaders” are the problem, whether they be Muslim, neo-con Christians, Zionists, Communists, Democrats or Republicans.

    10th August 2014 at 9:09 pm

  73. Sensetti says:

    It looks like the US is at war in Iraq Again.

    10th August 2014 at 9:13 pm

  74. llpoh says:

    Now there is a surprise – a coup in Iraq! I am stunned, I tell you, totally stunned! Who woulda thunk it!

    A coup in Iraq???!!! What on earth is the world coming to when a nice, honest, peaceful, well-run nation like Iraq has a coup??!!!

    Yep – the US and other western nations have done really good work in Irag. Yep, things are going really well for the Iraqi people and their nation.

    The US and every other western nation needs to RUN AWAY from that shit.

    10th August 2014 at 9:13 pm

  75. Sensetti says:

    Can we please just leave the Irish out of this discussion.

    10th August 2014 at 9:15 pm

  76. llpoh says:

    Admin finds the only white Christian group on the list (a small lie – there are a couple of others) and highlights it! I knew he would!

    I agree with his comments re the leaders. As always, we are not far apart – we quibble on the fine print, but agree on the paragraph headings.

    10th August 2014 at 9:16 pm

  77. llpoh says:

    I bet Al Qaida, the Taliban, and other sundry groups will never think of taking this opportunity to stir up some shit.

    I mean, just because the US is embroiled with/in Russia, Ukraine, Gaza, Israel, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, et al does not mean that an opportunity exists for them to make any trouble, right?

    I predict numerous fucking radical Muslim terrorist groups will take this opportunity to cause trouble.

    Anyone want to give me odds on that?

    10th August 2014 at 9:21 pm

  78. Sensetti says:

    Obama’is fixin to give those Iraqis a little bomb therapy all in the name of peace and stability. Ketchup Boy will ride in and help them pick a leader with a pliable personality. Nothing here people just a bump on the road to democratic bliss.

    10th August 2014 at 9:27 pm

  79. Administrator says:

    SHOCKING!!! IT’S ABOUT IRAQI OIL!!!!

    Guest Post: The U.S. Airstrikes In Northern Iraq Are All About Oil

    Submitted by Tyler Durden on 08/10/2014 21:42 -0400

    Submitted by John B Judis via The New Republic,

    This week, President Barack Obama announced that he was authorizing American airstrikes in Iraq. He described his intervention as a “humanitarian effort to help save thousands of Iraqi civilians who are trapped on a mountain” and as an effort “to protect our American personnel.” One word that he didn’t mention is “oil,” but it lies near the center of American motives for intervention.

    The United States is conducting airdrops to aid the Yazidis who have fled the advance of Islamic State militants, but it is conducting airstrikes around Erbil, which is to the east. There are American consular personnel in Erbil, but they could be evacuated if necessary. What Obama left unsaid was that Erbil, a city of 1.5 million, is the capital of the Kurdish regional government and the administrative center of its oil industry, which accounts for about a quarter of Iraq’s oil. The Kurds claim that if they were to become an independent state, they would have the ninth-largest oil reserves in the world. And oil wells are near Erbil.

    If the Islamic State were to take over Erbil, they would endanger Iraq’s oil production and, by extension, global access to oil. Prices would surge at a time when Europe, which buys oil from Iraq, has still not escaped the global recession. Oil prices have already risen in response to the Islamic State’s threat to Erbil, and on Thursday, American oil companies Chevron and Exxon Mobile began evacuating their personnel from Kurdistan. But oil traders are predicting that American intervention could halt the rise. “In essence we find U.S. air strikes more bearish than bullish for oil as the act finally draws a line for IS and reinforces both the stability in south Iraq and in Kurdistan,” Oliver Jakob, a Swiss oil analyst, told Reuters.

    In portraying American intervention in Iraq as a purely humanitarian effort, Obama is following the script he read from in Libya, when he justified American intervention as an effort to prevent a massacre in Benghazi. In a March 28, 2011 address to the nation, Obama painted the American intervention as a response to “brutal repression and a looming humanitarian crisis.” Oil was not mentioned, even though Libya was the world’s sixteenth-largest oil producer in 2009 and a major supplier to Europe. But oil was most likely involved, as became clear when, after preventing a massacre in Benghazi, the United States and its coalition partners stuck around to topple the regime of Muammar Qaddafi. If the Obama administration wanted to prevent the world’s peoples from brutal dictators and repressive regimes or from takeovers by terrorist groups, there are other countries besides Libya and Iraq where it could intervene. What distinguishes these two countries is that they are major oil producers.

    The United States should worry about the global oil supply. It is important for global economic and political stability. And having a significant chunk of it fall into the hands of a group like the Islamic State should certainly be a concern. But if Obama is worried about the world’s oil supply, then he should say so forthrightly and not leave himself in a position where he will be unable to justify or explain further intervention after the airdrops to the Yazidis are completed. And the administration should also have a plan for making sure that in sending out the Air Force, it will actually end a dire threat to Iraq’s oil production and put Iraq back on its feet. In Libya, the U.S. and its partners succeeded in getting rid of Muammar Qaddafi, but not in resolving the country’s humanitarian crisis or in keeping its oil flowing. Oil production has plummeted as Libya has been plunged into anarchy after Qaddafi’s fall. The challenge in Erbil and Iraq is even more daunting.

    10th August 2014 at 9:55 pm

  80. Leobeer says:

    Thailand which has 76 provinces is ranked #8 on the Global Terroism Index that Sensetti posted. The majority of the violence is in the 4 southernmost provinces on the Malaysian border.

    What’s the problem?

    Thailand is 94.6% Buddhist. The 4 southern provinces have large Muslim populations. Narathiwat and Pattani are 88% Malay-speaking Muslim. Yala is 72% Muslim. Songkhla is “only” 25% Muslim.

    You have a high concentration of Muslims in a small area of a Buddhist country. Do you really think the small minority of Muslims will ever accept being governed by the huge majority of Buddhists?

    Muslim migration to Europe is starting a similar problem in some countries there.

    Anyone that doesn’t believe it could happen in the USA or Canada is incredibly naive.

    10th August 2014 at 10:04 pm

  81. llpoh says:

    Leobeer – gee, where have I heard that before? But it sounds accurate to me.

    10th August 2014 at 10:08 pm

  82. llpoh says:

    Admin – thanks for reminding me about the oil. That had temporarily slipped my mind. Of course, in the end, it will be about the oil.

    10th August 2014 at 10:09 pm

  83. Anonymous says:

    Aghhhh!I find myself agreeing with Stuckey.

    10th August 2014 at 10:10 pm

  84. Anonymous says:

    Actually that happens a lot.

    10th August 2014 at 10:11 pm

  85. Sensetti says:

    Leob, very astute assessment. Cultures Clashes, always have, always will.

    10th August 2014 at 10:13 pm

  86. Charles Savoie says:

    There is a photo of a Japanese soldier from WW2 who was trying to exit the hatch of a tank, he got the lid up and had surfaced to almost shoulder level. His head was burned all the way down to a skull and obviously, he died screaming. More victims of The Pilgrims Society—the source of planned wars for over a century, uniting the looters of the centuries old worldwide British Empire and the old North American “robber barons” in what Cecil Rhodes conceived of as “a secret society gradually absorbing the wealth of the world” (Review of Reviews, May 1902, see pp556-558). This is the group that gave rise to the CFR, Royal Institute for International Affairs, the Rhodes Scholars, Bilderberg, Trilateral Commission, and literally over 200 other organizations, institutions and entities, which is why the obscure article called it “the first organization.”

    10th August 2014 at 10:13 pm

  87. Sensetti says:

    Charles says:
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    10th August 2014 at 10:24 pm

  88. Stucky says:

    “You numnuts are so fearful you think it is just fine for the US to go around the world droning, invading, shelling, bombing, and generally pissing off the entire world.” ———Admin

    Yea, all the years I’ve been here …. criticizing this shithole government for its endless wars …. yeah, I’m 100% for droning, bombing, blah blah blah.

    My only fucking point was 1) mooslims cause problems in virtually every fucking nation wherever they have a sizeable minority, 2) it would be better for the USA! to start considering not letting them in … which, of course, will not happen.

    I said NOTHING about bombing their countries.

    I should blow you? Why don’t you first go fuck yourself, you disingenuous cocksucker.
    .
    .
    BTW, Guardians Of The Galaxy is a FANTASTIC movie.

    10th August 2014 at 10:24 pm

  89. llpoh says:

    Stucky – I made the same point, but somewhat less colorfully. That is the Admin’s way of stirring up shit – when all else fails claim that the person says that which he has distinctly not said.

    Admin is not the only one who does not fight fair around here – seems to me you did essentially the same thing to me recently, if I remember correctly. I could go find the exact quote but I am not feeling very energetic. And I vaguely recall being really mean to you once or twice with some very uncalled for (well, maybe you called for it a little bit) kicks below the belt to your tender bits. (Not that I can kick high enough to kick you above the belt).

    And re your point that “mooslims cause problems in virtually every fucking nation wherever they have a sizeable minority”, seems I made that point myself when suggesting that, well, just maybe, just a tiny teensy weensy little bit, that Israel was provoked by those peace-loving mooslims that inhabit Gaza. As I remember, you kinda disagreed with me.

    Make up your damn mind wiil ya?

    By the way, your current position is correct.

    10th August 2014 at 10:34 pm

  90. Sensetti says:

    Nothing like the smell of napalm in the morning.

    Sensetti’s rules of engagement concerning all things war.
    1. Don’t go to war unless you have too.
    2. If you go to war you go to war with the entire country.
    3. You prosecute the war in a manner that the other side will sue for peace for generations.

    That’s the manner in which WW2 was won. You’ve not heard shit from Germany or the Jap O’s have you?
    Fuck all this police action bullshit. Either bomb those fuckers back to the Stone Age or stay home.

    10th August 2014 at 10:35 pm

  91. llpoh says:

    Here is a photo of how those peace loving mooslims behave and train their kids:

    article-2721230-206D17E500000578-975_634x474.jpg

    A seven year old kid holding up a severed head.

    These radical Muslims are barbaric sub-human animals and the sooner they and their supporters are eradicated, the better.

    10th August 2014 at 10:37 pm

  92. Sensetti says:

    Syrian rebels use a child to behead a prisoner

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    Tough crowd

    10th August 2014 at 10:47 pm

  93. GilbertS says:

    I’ll sum it up nicely: Fuck Islam and fuck its ignorant, hateful, evil, stupid, backwards-ass believers.

    I could write endlessly about my problems with this religion, but I’ll just go with this. What religion teaches people to kill nonbelievers? Even if someone is a “moderate,” how can they claim it is a peaceful religion when you read the question below?

    Question: What punishment does the Quoran lay out for a Muslim who leaves the faith?
    Answer: Death.

    This punishment is currently exercised by individuals and nations throughout the Muslim world. Since Islam hates free will, I hate Islam.

    10th August 2014 at 11:00 pm

  94. GilbertS says:

    I spent 2 and a half years over there seeing their world and it sucks. They bring that shitty world with them wherever they go. Just ask the Brits or the Eurabians about how they like the practitioners of the religion of peace and tolerance among them.

    Eventually, I hope the world realizes they’re locked in a religious war with Islam and Islamaniacs around the world. It doesn’t matter how much of a guilty white liberal you are or how peaceful or non-religious you might be-they’re still locked in a religious war with you. Denying that fact doesn’t change the fact. They would gladly kill you or convert you and destroy everything they don’t like in the process. Then, they could start killing each other over the various minor stupid schisms in their own sects.

    10th August 2014 at 11:04 pm

  95. GilbertS says:

    I got this emailed to me recently. I haven’t read the book, but I’ll be curious to check it out.

    Here is a perspective by Dr. Peter Hammond, a doctorate in Theology.
    He was born in Capetown in 1960, grew up in Rhodesia and converted to Christianity in 1977.
    (Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat)

    Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.

    Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.

    Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

    When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well. (as an aside, compare this with actions of other minorities in USA)

    Here’s how it works:

    As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving
    minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:
    United States — Muslim 0..6%
    Australia — Muslim 1.5%
    Canada — Muslim 1.9%
    China — Muslim 1.8%
    Italy — Muslim 1.5%
    Norway — Muslim 1.8%

    At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.
    This is happening in:

    Denmark — Muslim 2%
    Germany — Muslim 3.7%
    United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
    Spain — Muslim 4%
    Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

    From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.
    For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims.
    They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply.

    This is occurring in:

    France — Muslim 8%
    Philippines — 5%
    Sweden — Muslim 5%
    Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
    The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
    Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

    At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

    When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions.
    In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam.
    Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:
    Guyana — Muslim 10%
    India — Muslim 13.4%
    Israel — Muslim 16%
    Kenya — Muslim 10%
    Russia — Muslim 15%

    After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

    Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

    At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

    Bosnia — Muslim 40%
    Chad — Muslim 53.1%
    Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

    From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

    Albania — Muslim 70%
    Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
    Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
    Sudan — Muslim 70%

    After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

    Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
    Egypt — Muslim 90%
    Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
    Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
    Iran — Muslim 98%
    Iraq — Muslim 97%
    Jordan — Muslim 92%
    Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
    Pakistan — Muslim 97%
    Palestine — Muslim 99%
    Syria — Muslim 90%
    Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
    Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
    United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

    100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace.. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

    Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
    Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
    Somalia — Muslim 100%
    Yemen — Muslim 100%

    Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

    ‘Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel. — Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’

    It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law.
    The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities.. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death.
    Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

    Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers.
    Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.

    10th August 2014 at 11:12 pm

  96. overthecliff says:

    mooslums are a plague on civilization. we must maintain arms parity in their civil wars to keep the slaughter going. Let them do the killing.

    10th August 2014 at 11:17 pm

  97. Anonymous says:

    Too bad this descended into a senseless argument about religion. The free thinkers here are often open to intelligent assertions, but what about intelligent design. This is a awesome movie/book
    by Simon Powell

    10th August 2014 at 11:25 pm

  98. Irak says:

    People need to think more about the glories of war, how war brings out the best in people, how war purifies society, and how war is good for the economy. Our great American presidents, Polk, Lincoln, Roosevelt, Truman, and the Bushes knew that war would make us great and it has. No country is greater and richer than America and war has made us that way. A lot of rats and other vermin have had to be sacrificed so we Hawks can rightfully rule the world.

    10th August 2014 at 11:57 pm

  99. Mr Chen says:

    I saw this photo in a magazine, not a general circulation mag, it had far worse pics. One was an aerial photo of a highway from Kuwait. The story line said they were Iraqis fleeing Kuwait with loot, it showed the ultimate traffic jam, the vehicles were all shot up.

    11th August 2014 at 12:06 am

  100. Reverse Engineer says:

    Hey! 5 Thumbs UP and ZERO Thumbs down for my post!

    This is a recent record for me here. :D

    RE

    11th August 2014 at 12:18 am

  101. Hagar says:

    This is the 101st comment and still no consensus. WTF Kill them all and let God…or Allah sort them out.

    11th August 2014 at 1:52 am

  102. Zarathustra says:

    GilbertS says:

    After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

    Iran — Muslim 98%
    ________________________________________

    In Iran, all religions (whose prophets come before Muhammad), are protected, enjoy complete religious freedom and are guaranteed one seat in parliament. In Iran, Jews are treated better than Arabs are in Israel.I mean the citizens, not the occupied territories. If you don’t believe me I can connect you with some palestianian arab citizens of Israel who would be happy to educate you.

    Splain that.

    11th August 2014 at 2:17 am

  103. Mike Moskos says:

    DARPA has done a great job helping soldiers survive battlefield injuries, meaning that an awful lot of our veterans are going to require expensive care for the rest of their lives. I feel bad for them when the $ runs out to take care of them.

    11th August 2014 at 2:59 am

  104. mabuk says:

    @LeoBeer — much respect to you and recognizing that you will have deeper local knowledge, but whenever I have been to Thailand and bothered to pick up a Bangkok Post, I have seen the military suppression of those provinces by the military — in fact, they actually seemed kind of proud of themselves to be frog-marching civilians around.

    I traveled through that area in 2003 — those people wear the hijab, they probably speak more Malaysian than Thai and I still have no clue how they ended up in Thailand instead of Malaysia, but there they are, and the options for dealing with it look pretty lousy other than giving it the fuck up. This is a perpetual conflict, a forever war.

    Now we can label that conflict as a “religious war” by placing that in a Buddhist/Muslim context — but for me, it recalls a fight here in Indonesia between the central government and the Acehnese people in North Sumatra — only this time, both groups in this case are Muslim, so I can file that under… well, now we can label that a “separatist conflict” since it is Muslim on Muslim? When Indonesia was trying to keep its talons in East Timor, this was never labeled a religious conflict either, just another “separatist conflict” — strange, because East Timor was more Catholic than Muslim, and was strongly Portuguese in its identity, but we weren’t thinking in those terms as much as we are now post-9/11. Back in those good old days, it was considered in the Capitalist-Communist context, and boy were Nixon and Kissinger happy to have those Muslims killing off those Catholics.

    @Zarathrustra — Indonesia was also painted in that list as one of those genocidal abattoirs of good Christian folk, equally incorrect on that account as well.

    11th August 2014 at 4:59 am

  105. flash says:

    Repugs, dumber than a box of Democrats.

    “In 2005, van Creveld made headlines when he said in an interview that the 2003 invasion of Iraq was “the most foolish war since Emperor Augustus in 9 BC [sic] sent his legions into Germany and lost them”, a reference to the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest. His analysis included harsh criticism of the Bush Administration, comparing the war to the Vietnam war. Moreover, he said that “Bush deserves to be impeached and, once he has been removed from office, put on trial.”

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/08/bionic-mosquito/the-rise-of-the-state/

    11th August 2014 at 5:27 am

  106. Administrator says:

    Gilbert

    Why does he leave out countries that don’t fit his theory?

    Singapore – 16% Muslim
    China – 10% Muslim
    Myanmar – 15% Muslim

    11th August 2014 at 6:19 am

  107. Administrator says:

    Sensetti

    So I’m rooting for the kid beheading the prisoner. Right?

    I get confused sometimes. The ISIS rebels in Syria are my friends and the evil ISIS Christian haters in Iraq are the enemy. Do I got it straight?

    And we have provided the weapons for both sets of rebels. Is that correct?

    The American Empire has nothing to do with these circumstances. Right?

    At least we made Iraq safe for democracy by eliminating the evil dictator who we supported for decades.

    Someone once said War is a Racket. If we ran out of enemies, we’d need to create them to keep our arms dealers making billions.

    That’s funny. ISIS didn’t exist until two months ago, and now they are biggest threat to mankind since Hitler.

    Keep believing this is about Muslim terrorism. The gullibility of supposedly intelligent folks is a wonder to behold.

    11th August 2014 at 6:27 am

  108. Stucky says:

    “Stucky – I made the same point, but somewhat less colorfully. That is the Admin’s way of stirring up shit – when all else fails claim that the person says that which he has distinctly not said. ……….. Make up your damn mind will ya?” ———- llpoh

    Indeed, Herr Administrator is the dirtiest of fighters. Accusing someone of something they didn’t even hint of saying is akin to punching below the belt. I really let him have it though. I would have been a lot tougher on him had I not been feeling so good after seeing that really great move, Guardians Of the Galaxy.

    Regarding my wishy-washy mooslim stance, it’s because I WANT to believe that mooslims are kinda just like most peoples of the world; just wanting to be left alone and provide comfort and security for their family. Then along comes a group like ISIS (and any number of other fukwads) which makes me re-realize that one must add another component to the mooslim mindset … “you MUST believe as WE do, or else!”

    Islam is a shit religion that’s stuck in the 7th century. They desperately need a Reformation movement to bring them into modernity.

    Christianity was also a violent religion for over a thousand years. What was the Crusade, really, if not a “… “you MUST believe as WE do, or else!” moment? It still took a couple hundred years after Martin Luther’s “95 Theses” was published in 1517 for Christianity to cease its warmongering lust. Consider that The Inquisition was not formally abolished until 1834, during the reign of Isabella II …. and burning witches even hit our continent … not to mention the Colonial conquering and subjugation of entire continents, for both Kings and Jeebus. Even if mooslims have a Reformation Moment, it still might be 100 years, minimum, before they figure out how to stop killing for Allah.

    As I see it, there are 3 kinds of mooslims today;

    — “radical” mooslims who read “kill the infidel” ……. and do it.

    — “moderate” mooslims who read “kill the infidel” ……. and don’t actually do it, but FULLY SUPPORT it

    — good mooslims who read “kill the infidel” ……. and say. “hey, that can’t be right”, and are quickly targeted for extermination

    Only when the above percentages are respectively; 0%, 1%, and 99% will I consider that Islam is a “religion of peace”. Until then, they are a scourge upon all other peoples of the earth. Some day Admin will hopefully realize that.

    11th August 2014 at 7:45 am

  109. Administrator says:

    BWAHHAHHAAHHAAA

    Stuck really let me have it. Stuck actually believes ISIS materialized out of thin air as an army when no one was looking. That’s rich. Your big dog status is in jeopardy. Keep nipping at my paws.

    big-dog-little-dog.jpg

    11th August 2014 at 8:25 am

  110. Administrator says:

    For the math challenged dolts on this site, there are approx 3 million Muslims out of 320 million Americans. That is approx 0.9% of the population. We add 2.5 million people per year, with approx 100k being Muslim.

    At this rate, Muslims will make up 1.3% of the population in 2030. I’m shivering in my boots. Terror attacks will abound.

    Let’s use Stuck logic. He says 10% of Muslims want us dead. Therefore, he believes there are 300,000 Muslim terrorists in the country right now. They have easy access to explosives and firearms and cookware. The only terrorist attacks are planned, coordinated and foiled by the FBI.

    Why aren’t they blowing shit up, walking into malls with AK47s and slaughtering the infidels? Why aren’t they destroying infrastructure like dams and electric transformers?

    Some ideas are so fucking stupid only idiots could believe them. It’s good to see the propaganda specialists have mastered Bernays’ teachings to convince the sheep to live in fear of phantom Muslim terrorists.

    Keep cowering and fearing the evil Muslims. Your government controllers depend upon it.

    11th August 2014 at 8:37 am

  111. Administrator says:

    I’ve accomplished exactly what I wanted to accomplish with this thread. Piss everyone off. Too many pretty pictures and kumbaya bullshit on this site lately. We need a little more Smokey attitude on this site and less happy talk.

    My work here is done.

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR0W_3JXGr17hnzDmhSJp-83W8Q3OCwEFTQz_e_r9pgHo_U-6jzXA

    11th August 2014 at 8:42 am

  112. Administrator says:

    WAR IS A RACKET

    MORE “HUMANITARIAN” GUNS, MISSILES, & BOMBS

    WHO BENEFITS FROM THE WAR ON TERROR?

    Syria 2.0: US Starts Sending Arms To Kurdish Fighters

    Submitted by Tyler Durden on 08/11/2014 08:33 -0400

    While Einstein defined insanity as repeating the same behavior and expecting different results, it appears President Obama’s administration defines that action as US foreign policy. Just as they did in Syria (where the US ‘trained’ moderate Al Qaeda terrorists, instead of “sending troops” – ensuring no ‘boots on the ground’ blowback), AP reports that the US is sending arms to the Kurds as their new proxy mercenary force in Northern Iraq. We are sure the result will be different this time?

    Until now, the U.S. had insisted on only selling arms to the Iraqi government in Baghdad, but the Kurdish peshmerga fighters had been losing ground to Islamic State militants in recent weeks. As AP reports,

    The Obama administration has begun directly providing weapons to Kurdish forces who have started to make gains against Islamic militants in northern Iraq, senior U.S. officials said Monday.

    The officials wouldn’t say which U.S. agency is providing the arms or what weapons are being sent, but one official said it isn’t the Pentagon. The CIA has historically done similar quiet arming operations.

    The move to directly aid the Kurds underscores the level of U.S. concern about the Islamic State militants’ gains in the north, and reflects the persistent administration view that the Iraqis must take the necessary steps to solve their own security problems.

    A senior State Department official would only say that the Kurds are “getting arms from various sources. They are being rearmed.”

    In recent days, the U.S. military has been helping facilitate weapons deliveries from the Iraqis to the Kurds, providing logistic assistance and transportation to the north.

    Meanwhile the coup and political chaos in Baghdad leaves the US floundering in who is their man…

    At the same time, the administration is watching carefully as a political crisis brews in Baghdad, and U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry warned Iraq’s embattled prime minister Nouri al-Maliki to maintain calm among the upheaval.

    “We believe that the government formation process is critical in terms of sustaining the stability and calm in Iraq,” Kerry said. “And our hope is that Mr. Maliki will not stir those waters.”

    Speaking in Australia on Monday, Kerry said there should be no use of force by political factions as Iraq struggles form a government. He said the people of Iraq have made clear their desire for change and that the country’s new president is acting appropriately despite claims of malfeasance by al-Maliki.

    Maliki is resisting calls to step down and says he’ll file a complaint against the president for not naming him prime minister.

    * * *
    Of course, none of this matters because as stocks are tellung us – everything’s fixed…

    11th August 2014 at 8:50 am

  113. Ryan says:

    The chances of being killed by a terrorist are extremely remote. You are 8x as likely to be killed by the police here in the U.S. Yet here we are plowing billions if not trillions into security against such a threat. Or just maybe those in power view everyone as a threat?

    It’s pretty telling about our “civilization” that we’d rather commit genocide for our puppet masters than change anything about our U.S. lifestyles, namely our dependence upon oil/gasoline.

    11th August 2014 at 9:29 am

  114. Stucky says:

    “Let’s use Stuck logic. He says 10% of Muslims want us dead. …..Why aren’t they blowing shit up” ——-Admin

    Yet again, you tell a half-truth. I have repeatedly said that the mooslims don’t start shit in a society until there are enough of them. They keep their shit religious beliefs to themselves here in ‘Murika only because their numbers are small.

    Keep believing that American mooslims, if they gain sufficient numbers, will treat you and your family with love and kindness. Your mooslim oppressors depend upon it.

    11th August 2014 at 10:06 am

  115. Administrator says:

    Beware of Muslim environmentalists and animal lovers.

    11th August 2014 at 10:42 am

  116. Administrator says:

    Stuck

    Stay away from bathtubs.

    In 2010 (the latest report), 15 Americans were killed in terrorist attacks; nine died in 2009; 33 in 2008; 17 in 2007; 28 in 2006; and 56 in 2005. The vast majority of private U.S. citizens killed in terrorist attacks died in the war zone countries of Iraq and Afghanistan. So the sad tally of Americans killed by terrorists around the world since 2005 comes to a total of 158, yielding an annual rate 16 Americans killed by terrorists outside of the borders of the United States.

    Taking these figures into account, a rough calculation suggests that in the last five years, your chances of being killed by a terrorist are about one in 20 million. This compares annual risk of dying in a car accident of 1 in 19,000; drowning in a bathtub at 1 in 800,000; dying in a building fire at 1 in 99,000; or being struck by lightning at 1 in 5,500,000. In other words, in the last five years you were four times more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by a terrorist.

    11th August 2014 at 10:44 am

  117. Administrator says:

    Dying in a terrorist attack – 1 in 20 million. You should really fear Muslim Bees according to the chart of death.

    11th August 2014 at 10:48 am

  118. Stucky says:

    Admin

    Now you’re bringing bathtubs into the discussion. You’re hilarious.

    Thanks for the totally irrelevant “Death In America” chart. I have said repeatedly — “mooslims don’t start shit in a society until there are enough of them”. It seems you are actually incapable of understanding that simple concept.

    11th August 2014 at 10:54 am

  119. Administrator says:

    Stuck

    You are incapable of understanding math. Muslims will make up 1.3% of our population in 2030.

    DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?

    What is enough of them?

    What is your magic number Stuck?

    I await your brilliant cogent mathematical analysis so I will know exactly when to be scared of phantom Muslim terrorists.

    You are hilarious. :)

    11th August 2014 at 11:01 am

  120. Desertrat says:

    We know the PR claims of ISIS, now IS. Spread and enforce strict Sharia law. Attack anywhere and everywhere.

    Q: Are the photos fakes?

    http://noisyroom.net/blog/2014/08/08/isis-sweeps-the-middle-east-in-a-method-reminiscent-of-genghis-khan/

    This is peaceful?

    11th August 2014 at 11:41 am

  121. Administrator says:

    How come ISIS didn’t exist 6 months ago? I thought the US spy agencies know about everything happening in the world. Not a peep about ISIS until all of a sudden they are the biggest threat to world peace since Osama. Hmm. Didn’t we create him too?

    Those are just photos of Muslims killing Muslims. What do you want me to do about it? If they want to slaughter each other, it’s none of my business. Are you actually suggesting the great American Empire can use our bombs to stop these ragheads from killing each other?

    I thought they hated America. Why are they killing each other?

    I don’t give a flying fuck what these people do in their own countries. The United States of America should do absolutely nothing. We go $2 billion further into debt each and every fucking day. Dropping $1 million bombs on camel jockeys will just accelerate our empire collapse.

    11th August 2014 at 11:49 am

  122. Sensetti says:

    Admin says How come ISIS didn’t exist 6 months ago?
    Answer is
    CIA stood this ISIS Army up financed it and armed it. This new force will be used to kick Irans ass.

    11th August 2014 at 12:06 pm

  123. Stucky says:

    Dearest Admin

    INTRO

    “ … demographers estimate that there are about 2.75 million Muslims living in the United States in 2011. This represents an increase of roughly 300,000 since 2007”

    http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/section-1-a-demographic-portrait-of-muslim-americans/

    That’s just about an 11% increase over 4 years, or 2.75% per year.

    There are 224,000,000 whites in 2014. But, for the first time in more than a century, the number of deaths now exceeds births among white Americans. As recently as 1960, whites made up 85 percent of the U.S. …. now stands at nearly 64 percent. The percentages will drop even faster as child bearing whites of today will have fewer children than their Boomer parents/grandparents, abortion is on the rise, economic pressures, and so on. Plus, you have the Mexicans who immigrate like crabs from Christmas Island, and Neegrows who breed like rabbits regardless of anything.. And Asians like large families, just because. THEREFORE, it’s not unreasonable to assume that the white population will decrease annually by the same percentage …. -2.75%

    .
    THE SHIT HITS THE FAN point of no return

    I will be very VERY generous and say we have nothing to worry about until the mooslim population reaches a whopping 50% of the white population.

    .
    THE NUMBERS

    Starting at 2.75 million mooslims, and increasing it by 2.75% …… there will be 17,397,914 ragheads at some point in time

    Starting at 224,000 whites, and declining by -2.75% …. There will be 33,631,133 whites at some point in time

    And WHEN is that point in time? In 69 measly fucking years. Your grand-kids will be alive … for the slaughter. That’s why you should worry TODAY.

    .
    CONCLUSION

    Be afraid. Very afraid. Don’t say I didn’t warn ya.

    11th August 2014 at 12:14 pm

  124. Administrator says:

    Sensetti

    So Obama and the US government are responsible for the beheadings, crucifixions, and slaughter of women and children. Is that correct?

    11th August 2014 at 12:16 pm

  125. Sensetti says:

    Admin you keep asking who’s bad, who’s good, who’s on who’s side. Let me help you. It’s all about control of Middle East Oil and defending Israel. There are no good or bad sides only objectives.

    11th August 2014 at 12:17 pm

  126. Administrator says:

    Success American Style – think of the billions in profits for the Military Industrial Complex

    11th August 2014 at 12:17 pm

  127. Administrator says:

    Sensetti

    I know it’s only about oil. The War on Terrorism is nothing but a ploy to control Middle East oil.

    That’s been my entire point. This has nothing to do with religion or Muslims.

    Keeping the sheep fearful about Muslim terrorists is all part of the plan.

    11th August 2014 at 12:21 pm

  128. Sensetti says:

    It’s always been about oil and the Petro Dollar. Sensetti has posted that a thousand times on this blog.

    11th August 2014 at 12:24 pm

  129. Stucky says:

    C’mon Admin!!!

    You asked for mafimatikal truf and I provided it.

    Watchya think? You gots 69 years muthafucka. Quit yer denying.

    11th August 2014 at 12:44 pm

  130. Administrator says:

    Stuck

    Only a mathematical genius like yourself would take a fucking 4 year growth rate and extrapolate it for 69 years. I understand 69 is your favorite number but for Christ sakes, could you find a more obscure bullshit website to make your pathetic case.

    I think I’ll use the Census Bureau projections. There will be 420 million Americans in 2060.

    Whites – 179 million
    Hispanics – 129 million
    Blacks – 62 million
    Asians – 34 million
    Other – 16 million

    Your 2.75% growth rate applied to your evil Mooslims yields 9.6 million in 2060.

    Now it may get difficult for your pea brain, so pay attention. The percentage of evil terrorists reaches 2.3% of the US population in just 46 short years. Oh the horror.

    Teaching you maff is like trying to teach a retarded shit eating monkey how to not eat shit.

    Here is the Census Bureau data.

    http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/population/cb12-243.html

    You really are hilarious. :)

    11th August 2014 at 1:29 pm

  131. Stucky says:

    Admin

    Fuckit. I was just having a little fun with the numbers. Really not intended to be taken SERIOUSLY.

    But, I guess I’m just a retarded nutcase. So, fuckit all to hell. Who needs all this shit over a bunch of fuckin mooslims? I don’t.

    11th August 2014 at 1:50 pm

  132. Llpoh says:

    Stuck – I have no doubt, none whatsoever, that the Admin knows he is full of shit on this. You see, only a handful of terrorist assholes can cause major problems. Even if there are only 30 active terrorists out of that group of 3 million, those fucks can cause a lot of problems. Electric grids, water systems, the net, etc can be brought down by a very small number of folks. He knows this same as we know this. The Irish know this better than most.

    They do not need to be a majority to piss in your soup.

    11th August 2014 at 5:17 pm

  133. Nonanonymous says:

    LL, you’re correct, but even God Almighty has reserved for himself a remnant. (Romans 11:5)

    There are already plenty of terrorists to go around. If you think about it, everyone is a terrorist.

    The second amendment provides the means to protect the 1st and 4th, and provides the freedom by which you and Admin among others have earned your just rewards.

    But, let’s skip to the heart of the matter, and that is the US Constitution doesn’t grant or confer any rights, it merely protects those rights which are granted by God. It’s no wonder our own government won’t uphold it.

    Those silly founding fathers. A day is coming when it won’t be so silly.

    12th August 2014 at 1:22 am

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