Does the entitlement/welfare/ warfare state benefit the Boomers or the Millenials? Has the massive consumer and government debt accumulated over the last 30 years benefitted the Boomers or the Millenials? Who will vote in massive numbers to keep the status quo? Who didn’t save enough for their retirement so they are not leaving the workforce, keeping young people out of the workforce? Who gets sent to die in wars started and managed by Boomers? During Fourth Turnings the Prophet Generation is supposed to lead and the Hero generation is supposed to follow and do the heavy lifting. Not too much leadership coming from the Prophet generation, just finger pointing, greed and blaming the youth for their own sins. Yes, Boomers have earned their reputation as the Shallowest Generation.
Older generations to the young: Drop dead
The acronym NEET first gained wide exposure last August, when riots blamed on young people “Not in Employment, Education or Training” broke out in London’s Tottenham district. It’s a useful term, particularly with youth unemployment fueling the angst over the European debt crisis.
The NEET rate among those 15 to 24 years of age is 19 percent in Italy, 18 percent in Greece and 17 percent in Spain and Ireland. In the United States, it’s almost 15 percent, according to figures compiled by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.
Urban development expert Joel Kotkin has another term for this group of young people: “The Screwed Generation.” Writing at his website NewGeography.com, Mr. Kotkin calls these young people “the victims of expansive welfare states and the massive structural debt charged by their parents.”
Mr. Kotkin has a knack for a blunt phrase. In 2004, when he was at Pepperdine University in California, he was hired by the Greater St. Louis Economic Development Council to study how St. Louis could attract young professionals and entrepreneurs. Mr. Kotkin had some useful recommendations, few of which were remembered after he told a Post-Dispatch editorial board meeting, “Your downtown sucks.”
His view of the dim prospects facing today’s young people is rooted not just in NEET numbers, but in studies that show many college graduates are struggling to find full-time employment at a living wage. One study of 444 recent graduates by the Center for Workforce Development at Rutgers University showed that only 51 percent of graduates of four-year colleges between 2006 and 2011 had found full-time employment. Twenty percent had gone back to graduate or professional school, but the rest were working part-time or not at all.
Data from the 2010 census show the number of unemployed young people, age 16 to 29, declined 18 percent between 2000 and 2010 to its lowest point since World War II. Nearly 6 million Americans aged 25 to 34 are living with their parents, up 25 percent since 2007. Among families with heads of household younger than 30, the the poverty rate was 37 percent.
Ninety-four percent of them came out of college carrying at least some debt; the median debt load for graduates of public universities was $18,690. It was $24,460 for private university graduates.
It’s not just that companies have been slow to expand, it’s that older workers are staying on the job longer, working at least until full Social Security and Medicaid benefits become available. These are benefits that young people will be taxed for (assuming they get work) but, given long-term budget outlooks, may not be available in 40 years.
And not only are older Americans hogging the jobs and the benefits, they’re voting in large numbers against changing the calculus. Having enjoyed the benefits of post-war prosperity, many older Americans don’t want to pay the debts they’ve incurred, much less preserve benefits, repair the infrastructure or fix global warming.
Screwed is right.
In the 2008 presidential election, record numbers of 18- to 24-year-old voters turned out at the polls. They may not match that 49 percent turnout this year. Their elders vote at rates of up to 70 percent.
It’s easy to understand why America’s NEETs and debt-burdened college graduates would be disenchanted with politics. But they really can’t afford to take the year off.
Pssst, llpoh:
Your favorite poster’s been dropping in:
http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=35788#comment-141005
Well maybe I am wrong and this guy is smarter than he looks but I am not going to give him a job.
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Colma, you asshole. I thought you meant Smokey. I went running for gold and all I found was a turd. Shame on you.
The young folks are tattooing the bible on their backs. Now that’s real devotion and commitment to the good book you won’t find that on a Boomer and fo the record I am Gen Xer
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Llpoh, I see your ass is still sore after that whipping you received yesterday. As Admin would say, So Solly.
Deluded much, DPZ? Keep those conspiracy theories comng. We all need a good laugh.
Sensetti, I don’t think you get it. It was the extremism of the boomers that is at fault. Jim Morrison, for example, masturbating during a concert performance. What else could the X’ers and millenials do to surpass this but to engage in self-mutilation with their piercings and tattoos, plus even deadlier drugs?
Sometimes the younger generation has a tattoo that is very useful, keeps him from getting things confused, like where is fucking head is located, never seen that on a Boomer.
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Llpoh, check out the green vs red tally. I win. We in the liberty movement know that Israel is our enemy. Which side are you on?
Sensetti-This old Xer would hit that. FWIW, I plan to get tats of excerpts from the Constitution, just haven’t got around to it yet.
Z – seriously, you are a dimwit. Gee, check out who won the last election for president. Stupid is as stupid does. And one thing about votes, 9/11 conspiracy theories draws out the nutjobs – you included.
The Jews! The Jews! They are evil!
How many Muslims have the Jews killed? How many has the US killed? Who do you think causes more trouble – the US for Israel or Israel for the US? You are a retard.
Israel would happily live in peace. But the Arabs aren’t going to allow it. You have no understanding of anyfuckingthing. The sooner I run your ignorant ass off the better. I just lack time, but I will keep chiseling away.
I really hate antisemites. Especially ones that try to cover it up with deluded theories – like you.
I work in a large ER and I see some really messed up young people come in every day, they are fucked up do you hear me. Come spend just a week with me and I will show you what I mean. They are screwed up in the head real bad and the volume we see is unbelievable, attempted suicide rates among the young are unreal I had six in one day last week all under the age of thirty. That’s why I say I have no faith in this younger generation doing anything; this next generation is bent and badly broken.
Llpoh, once again you have shown your perfidy or cluelessness. If a government is a state of jews, it becomes impossible to oppose it without being charged of hating jews. I don’t hate jews, I hate Israel, and not for what it has done to the palestinians, but for what it had done to us.
Tonto
The kids of boomers are grown and gone.The fat brats belong to the Whatever Generation.
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U.S. Kids Using Media Almost 8 Hours a Day
Survey finds few parents set rules as use of ‘smart’ phones, computers soars
http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/healthday/635134.html
By Steven Reinberg
WEDNESDAY, Jan. 20 (HealthDay News) — The amount of time American children and teens spend watching TV, playing video games or surfing the Internet has increased dramatically, to almost eight hours a day, a new report finds.
In fact, over the past five years the amount of time the average 8- to 18-year-old spent with media is up by 1 hour, 17 minutes a day — from 6 hours, 21 minutes in 2004 to 7 hours, 38 minutes now.
“The thing that jumps out is the enormous amount of time kids spend consuming media,” said report co-author Victoria Rideout, vice president and director of the Program for the Study of Media and Health at the Kaiser Family Foundation.
“It’s more than seven and a half hours a day, seven days a week,” she said. “That’s more than 53 hours a week — more time than grownups spend in a full-time job.”
Llpoh writes, “Israel would happily live in peace. But the Arabs aren’t going to allow it.”
Now I know that you are a neocon. This Israeli flag consists of a blue star of david on a white background with blue stripes above and below it. Yasser Arafat once claimed that these stripes represented the Nile and the Euphrates rivers. I believe he was right.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/greater-israel-maps.htm
Duh… Clear and precise explanation of generational pop theory.
Final words on Generations X and Y
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/brainiac/2008/04/final_words_on.html
Were you born between 1954 and 1993? Confused about what generation you belong to? Read on. Everything will be explained. And there’s a handy chart at the end of this post!
A LOST GENERATION
Despite the social-scientific-sounding claims made by journalists and marketing consultants (or, in the case of pop demographers like Neil Howe and William Strauss, Meredith Bagby, and Jonathan Pontell, some unholy combination of the two), not to mention political advocacy groups like Third Millennium, a generation isn’t a sociological fact. That doesn’t mean, however, that you can arbitrarily select two dates and name everyone born between them a member of a generation; if it doesn’t feel like a good fit to most of those people, then something is wrong with your theory.
For example, Americans who were born between the mid-1940s — 1944, in my reckoning; though others would set the start date at 1946 (Census Bureau) or 1943 (Howe and Strauss) — and the early 1950s (1953, in my reckoning) tend to agree that they’re Boomers. Fine! No problem there. But many Americans born from 1954 through the early 1960s don’t feel like Boomers; in fact, many of them actively resent and/or scorn the Boomers. In the early 1990s, the zinester Candi Strecker claimed that Americans who, like herself, were born between the mid-1950s and early 1960s were members of the “Repo Man” generation; she was referring to the 1984 cult movie directed by Alex Cox (1954) and starring Emilio Estevez (1962), both members of the lost generation in question. Around the same time, Douglas Coupland published his first novel, “Generation X” (1991), the title of which seemed to suggest that North Americans more or less the same age as the author (b. 1961) didn’t feel like Boomers. In the early 2000s, Jonathan Pontell offered a new name for this lost generation, whose members he claimed were born between 1954 and 1965: “Generation Jones.”
In the past year or so, Barack Obama (b. 1961) has become the spokesman for this lost generation, because of his insistence that his generation’s worldview and politics aren’t a Baby Boomer’s.
My own periodic table of American generations — which is eccentric, inflexible, and therefore 100 percent correct — indicates that the lost generation in question was born between 1954 and 1963. Mr. Pontell was close, but off by a few years on the end date. In honor of Mr. Coupland, I’ve called this impressive, influential, and anti-Boomer cohort the “Original Generation X” (OGXers).
GENERATION X & TWENTYSOMETHINGS
But what of the Generation X we heard so much about in the 1990s?
In 1990, Time Magazine claimed that the “twentysomething” generation was born between 1961-72; and in 1997, Time claimed that “Generation X” was born between 1965-77. Neil Howe and William Strauss’s bestselling books “Generations” (1991) and “13th-Gen” (1993) claimed that the post-baby-boom “13ers” (aka Gen X) were born between 1961-81. (However, in their 1997 book “The Fourth Turning,” Howe and Strauss confessed that the members of this so-called generation didn’t buy into it: “Compared to any other generation born in this century, [the 13th generation] is less cohesive, its experiences wider and its culture more splintery.”) In 1993, the political advocacy group Third Millennium, announced that it had formed to represent the concerns of those Americans who’d been dubbed “twentysomethings” or “Generation X”; following Howe and Strauss, its leaders claimed that the cohort in question was born between 1961 and 1981. And in her 1998 book, “Rational Exuberance: The Influence of Generation X on the New Economy,” a young economist named Meredith Bagby (b. 1974) said she was proud to be a member of Generation X, which she defined as those born between 1965-76.
Why so much confusion? Because there never was a Generation X. It was just a placeholder label, lifted from Douglas Coupland by journalists, marketing consultants, and others, and applied to anyone and everyone born from the mid-1960s on. No wonder that nobody — except Meredith Bagby — ever identified as an Xer. Ironically, Bagby is not a member of the overdetermined generation in question. According to my periodization scheme, Americans born between 1964 and 1973 are members of an ambivalent (not apathetic), fragment-brooding, rejuvenile generation that I’ve called Generation PC (PCers).
GENERATION Y & MILLENNIALS
Who, then, are these Millennials and Generation Yers that we’ve heard so much about? According to the consumer research outfit Iconoculture, Millennials are those Americans who were 29 and under in 2007; i.e., the first Millennials were born in 1978. Newsweek, meanwhile, has described the Millennials as those born between 1977-94. The New York Times has called “Generation Y” those born from 1976-90, and those born from 1978-98. In their 2000 bestseller “Millennials Rising,” Howe and Strauss claimed that Millennials were born between 1982 and 2002. (The nice thing about a flexible generational periodization scheme is that you can neatly peg the Millennials to 1982, which allows the first-born of their cohort to graduate in the year 2000.)
All of these guesstimates are off, though Howe and Strauss came close with the start date, and Newsweek was close with the end date. There never was a Generation Y; like Generation X, it was a placeholder label that lumped together young Americans who were actually members of discrete generations. According to my inflexible periodization scheme, the shiny-happy, but good-hearted Millennials were born between 1984 and 1993.
But wait! All this confusion about Generation Y should make us suspicious. Especially now that we’ve learned that an entire generation — the OGXers — went missing for decades, and that some members of another generation — the PCers — were mistakenly called Generation X. What about the rest of this so-called Generation X, i.e., those Americans born from the mid-1970s through, say, 1981 (the end fate of Howe and Strauss’s 13th Generation)? And what about the so-called Gen Yers and Millennials who were born before 1984?
Did we lose another post-Boomer generation?
ONE OF OUR GENERATIONS IS MISSING!
Yes, we did.
However, thanks to my inflexible and therefore completely accurate periodization scheme, I’ve located the lost generation and they’re safe and sound. The Net Generation, as I call these Web-savvy, boss-flustering, heavily tattooed Americans, were born between 1974 and 1983. In other words, the older Netters were lumped in with younger PCers and called “Generation X,” while the younger Netters were lumped in with older Millennials and called “Generation Y.” What a drag.
They’re a great bunch of young people. Let’s not lose track of them again, OK?
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Still feel confused about which generation you belong to, and which generations you’ve been accused of belonging to, by misguided journalists, unscrupulous marketers, and others? If you were born between 1954 and 1993, consult the following chart.
1954-60: OGXers
1954: You’re an OGXer. But you were lumped in with the Boomers. (The Census Bureau defines the baby boom as births during the years 1946 to 1964.) Jonathan Pontell claims you’re a member of “Generation Jones” (1954-65). NB: You were born in a cusp year, and might identify with the previous generation (in this case, Boomers).
1955: You’re an OGXer. But you were lumped in with the Boomers. (The Census Bureau defines the baby boom as births during the years 1946 to 1964.) Jonathan Pontell claims you’re a member of “Generation Jones” (1954-65).
1956: You’re an OGXer. But you were lumped in with the Boomers. (The Census Bureau defines the baby boom as births during the years 1946 to 1964.) Jonathan Pontell claims you’re a member of “Generation Jones” (1954-65).
1957: You’re an OGXer. But you were lumped in with the Boomers. (The Census Bureau defines the baby boom as births during the years 1946 to 1964.) Jonathan Pontell claims you’re a member of “Generation Jones” (1954-65).
1958: You’re an OGXer. But you were lumped in with the Boomers. (The Census Bureau defines the baby boom as births during the years 1946 to 1964.) Jonathan Pontell claims you’re a member of “Generation Jones” (1954-65).
1959: You’re an OGXer. But you were lumped in with the Boomers. (The Census Bureau defines the baby boom as births during the years 1946 to 1964.) Jonathan Pontell claims you’re a member of “Generation Jones” (1954-65).
1960: You’re an OGXer. But you were lumped in with the Boomers. (The Census Bureau defines the baby boom as births during the years 1946 to 1964.) Jonathan Pontell claims you’re a member of “Generation Jones” (1954-65).
1961-1965: A confusion of OGXers and PCers
1961: You’re an OGXer. But you were lumped in with the Boomers. (The Census Bureau defines the baby boom as births during the years 1946 to 1964.) William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Thirteenth Generation” (1961-81); Third Millennium, following Howe and Strauss, claim you’re Generation X (1961-81). Jonathan Pontell claims you’re a member of “Generation Jones” (1954-65). In 1990, Time Magazine claimed that the “twentysomething” generation was born between 1961-72.
1962: You’re an OGXer> But you were lumped in with the Boomers. (The Census Bureau defines the baby boom as births during the years 1946 to 1964.) William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Thirteenth Generation” (1961-81); Third Millennium, following Howe and Strauss, claim you’re Generation X (1961-81). Jonathan Pontell claims you’re a member of “Generation Jones” (1954-65). In 1990, Time Magazine claimed that the “twentysomething” generation was born between 1961-72.
1963: You’re an OGXer. But you were lumped in with the Boomers. (The Census Bureau defines the baby boom as births during the years 1946 to 1964.) William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Thirteenth Generation” (1961-81); Third Millennium, following Howe and Strauss, claim you’re Generation X (1961-81). Jonathan Pontell claims you’re a member of “Generation Jones” (1954-65). In 1990, Time Magazine claimed that the “twentysomething” generation was born between 1961-72. NB: You were born in a cusp year, and might identify with the next generation (in this case, PCers).
1964: You’re a PCer. But you were lumped in with the Boomers. (The Census Bureau defines the baby boom as births during the years 1946 to 1964.) William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Thirteenth Generation” (1961-81); Third Millennium, following Howe and Strauss, claim you’re Generation X (1961-81). Jonathan Pontell claims you’re a member of “Generation Jones” (1954-65). In 1990, Time Magazine claimed that the “twentysomething” generation was born between 1961-72. NB: You were born in a cusp year, and might identify with the previous generation (in this case, OGXers).
1965: You’re a PCer. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Thirteenth Generation” (1961-81); Third Millennium, following Howe and Strauss, claim you’re Generation X (1961-81). Jonathan Pontell claims you’re a member of “Generation Jones” (1954-65). Meredith Bagby claims you’re Generation X (1965-76). In 1990, Time Magazine claimed that the “twentysomething” generation was born between 1961-72; in 1997, Time claimed that “Generation X” was born between 1965-77.
1966-1971: PCers
1966: You’re a PCer. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Thirteenth Generation” (1961-81); Third Millennium, following Howe and Strauss, claim you’re Generation X (1961-81). Meredith Bagby claims you’re Generation X (1965-76). In 1990, Time Magazine claimed that the “twentysomething” generation was born between 1961-72; in 1997, Time claimed that “Generation X” was born between 1965-77.
1967: You’re a PCer. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Thirteenth Generation” (1961-81); Third Millennium, following Howe and Strauss, claim you’re Generation X (1961-81). Meredith Bagby claims you’re Generation X (1965-76). In 1990, Time Magazine claimed that the “twentysomething” generation was born between 1961-72; in 1997, Time claimed that “Generation X” was born between 1965-77.
1968: You’re a PCer. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Thirteenth Generation” (1961-81); Third Millennium, following Howe and Strauss, claim you’re Generation X (1961-81). Meredith Bagby claims you’re Generation X (1965-76). In 1990, Time Magazine claimed that the “twentysomething” generation was born between 1961-72; in 1997, Time claimed that “Generation X” was born between 1965-77.
1969: You’re a PCer. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Thirteenth Generation” (1961-81); Third Millennium, following Howe and Strauss, claim you’re Generation X (1961-81). Meredith Bagby claims you’re Generation X (1965-76). In 1990, Time Magazine claimed that the “twentysomething” generation was born between 1961-72; in 1997, Time claimed that “Generation X” was born between 1965-77.
1970: You’re a PCer. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Thirteenth Generation” (1961-81); Third Millennium, following Howe and Strauss, claim you’re Generation X (1961-81). Meredith Bagby claims you’re Generation X (1965-76). In 1990, Time Magazine claimed that the “twentysomething” generation was born between 1961-72; in 1997, Time claimed that “Generation X” was born between 1965-77.
1971: You’re a PCer. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Thirteenth Generation” (1961-81); Third Millennium, following Howe and Strauss, claim you’re Generation X (1961-81). Meredith Bagby claims you’re Generation X (1965-76). In 1990, Time Magazine claimed that the “twentysomething” generation was born between 1961-72; in 1997, Time claimed that “Generation X” was born between 1965-77.
1972-76: A confusion of PCers and Netters
1972: You’re a PCer. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Thirteenth Generation” (1961-81); Third Millennium, following Howe and Strauss, claim you’re Generation X (1961-81). Meredith Bagby claims you’re Generation X (1965-76). In 1990, Time Magazine claimed that the “twentysomething” generation was born between 1961-72; in 1997, Time claimed that “Generation X” was born between 1965-77.
1973: You’re a PCer. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Thirteenth Generation” (1961-81); Third Millennium, following Howe and Strauss, claim you’re Generation X (1961-81). Meredith Bagby claims you’re Generation X (1965-76); in 1997, Time claimed that “Generation X” was born between 1965-77. NB: You were born in a cusp year, and might identify with the next generation (in this case, Netters).
1974: You’re a Netter. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Thirteenth Generation” (1961-81); Third Millennium, following Howe and Strauss, claim you’re Generation X (1961-81). Meredith Bagby claims you’re Generation X (1965-76); in 1997, Time claimed that “Generation X” was born between 1965-77. NB: You were born in a cusp year, and might identify with the previous generation (in this case, PCers).
1975: You’re a Netter. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Thirteenth Generation” (1961-81); Third Millennium, following Howe and Strauss, claim you’re Generation X (1961-81). Meredith Bagby claims you’re Generation X (1965-76); in 1997, Time claimed that “Generation X” was born between 1965-77.
1976: You’re a Netter. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Thirteenth Generation” (1961-81); Third Millennium, following Howe and Strauss, claim you’re Generation X (1961-81). Meredith Bagby claims you’re Generation X (1965-76); in 1997, Time claimed that “Generation X” was born between 1965-77. In a 2000 story, The New York Times described “Generation Y” as “the young people between 10 and 24”; this suggests that Yers were born from 1976-90.
1977-81: Netters
1977: You’re a Netter. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Thirteenth Generation” (1961-81); Third Millennium, following Howe and Strauss, claim you’re Generation X (1961-81). In 1997, Time claimed that “Generation X” was born between 1965-77. Newsweek has described the “Millennials” as those Americans born between 1977 and 1994. In a 2000 story, The New York Times described “Generation Y” as “the young people between 10 and 24”; this suggests that Yers were born from 1976-90.
1978: You’re a Netter. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Thirteenth Generation” (1961-81); Third Millennium, following Howe and Strauss, claim you’re Generation X (1961-81). Newsweek has described the “Millennials” as those Americans born between 1977 and 1994. In a 2000 story, The New York Times described “Generation Y” as “the young people between 10 and 24”; this suggests that Yers were born from 1976-90. But a 1999 Times story describes Yers as having been born from 1978-98.
1979: You’re a Netter. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Thirteenth Generation” (1961-81); Third Millennium, following Howe and Strauss, claim you’re Generation X (1961-81). Newsweek has described the “Millennials” as those Americans born between 1977 and 1994. In a 2000 story, The New York Times described “Generation Y” as “the young people between 10 and 24”; this suggests that Yers were born from 1976-90. But a 1999 Times story describes Yers as having been born from 1978-98.
1980: You’re a Netter. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Thirteenth Generation” (1961-81); Third Millennium, following Howe and Strauss, claim you’re Generation X (1961-81). Newsweek has described the “Millennials” as those Americans born between 1977 and 1994. In a 2000 story, The New York Times described “Generation Y” as “the young people between 10 and 24”; this suggests that Yers were born from 1976-90. But a 1999 Times story describes Yers as having been born from 1978-98.
1981: You’re a Netter. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Thirteenth Generation” (1961-81); Third Millennium, following Howe and Strauss, claim you’re Generation X (1961-81). Newsweek has described the “Millennials” as those Americans born between 1977 and 1994. In a 2000 story, The New York Times described “Generation Y” as “the young people between 10 and 24”; this suggests that Yers were born from 1976-90. But a 1999 Times story describes Yers as having been born from 1978-98.
1982-1990: A confusion of Netters and Millennials
1982: You’re a Netter. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Millennial Generation” (1982-2002). Newsweek has described the “Millennials” as those Americans born between 1977 and 1994. In a 2000 story, The New York Times described “Generation Y” as “the young people between 10 and 24”; this suggests that Yers were born from 1976-90. But a 1999 Times story describes Yers as having been born from 1978-98.
1983: You’re a Netter. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Millennial Generation” (1982-2002). Newsweek has described the “Millennials” as those Americans born between 1977 and 1994. In a 2000 story, The New York Times described “Generation Y” as “the young people between 10 and 24”; this suggests that Yers were born from 1976-90. But a 1999 Times story describes Yers as having been born from 1978-98. NB: You were born in a cusp year, and might identify with the next generation (in this case, Millennials).
1984: You’re a Millennial. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Millennial Generation” (1982-2002). Newsweek has described the “Millennials” as those Americans born between 1977 and 1994. In a 2000 story, The New York Times described “Generation Y” as “the young people between 10 and 24”; this suggests that Yers were born from 1976-90. But a 1999 Times story describes Yers as having been born from 1978-98. NB: You were born in a cusp year, and might identify with the previous generation (in this case, Netters).
1985: You’re a Millennial. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Millennial Generation” (1982-2002). Newsweek has described the “Millennials” as those Americans born between 1977 and 1994. In a 2000 story, The New York Times described “Generation Y” as “the young people between 10 and 24”; this suggests that Yers were born from 1976-90. But a 1999 Times story describes Yers as having been born from 1978-98.
1986: You’re a Millennial. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Millennial Generation” (1982-2002). Newsweek has described the “Millennials” as those Americans born between 1977 and 1994. In a 2000 story, The New York Times described “Generation Y” as “the young people between 10 and 24”; this suggests that Yers were born from 1976-90. But a 1999 Times story describes Yers as having been born from 1978-98.
1987: You’re a Millennial. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Millennial Generation” (1982-2002). Newsweek has described the “Millennials” as those Americans born between 1977 and 1994. In a 2000 story, The New York Times described “Generation Y” as “the young people between 10 and 24”; this suggests that Yers were born from 1976-90. But a 1999 Times story describes Yers as having been born from 1978-98.
1988: You’re a Millennial. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Millennial Generation” (1982-2002). Newsweek has described the “Millennials” as those Americans born between 1977 and 1994. In a 2000 story, The New York Times described “Generation Y” as “the young people between 10 and 24”; this suggests that Yers were born from 1976-90. But a 1999 Times story describes Yers as having been born from 1978-98.
1989: You’re a Millennial. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Millennial Generation” (1982-2002). Newsweek has described the “Millennials” as those Americans born between 1977 and 1994. In a 2000 story, The New York Times described “Generation Y” as “the young people between 10 and 24”; this suggests that Yers were born from 1976-90. But a 1999 Times story describes Yers as having been born from 1978-98.
1990: You’re a Millennial. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Millennial Generation” (1982-2002). Newsweek has described the “Millennials” as those Americans born between 1977 and 1994. In a 2000 story, The New York Times described “Generation Y” as “the young people between 10 and 24”; this suggests that Yers were born from 1976-90. But a 1999 Times story describes Yers as having been born from 1978-98.
1991-1993: Millennials
1991: You’re a Millennial. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Millennial Generation” (1982-2002). Newsweek has described the “Millennials” as those Americans born between 1977 and 1994. A 1999 Times story describes members of “Generation Y” as having been born from 1978-98.
1992: You’re a Millennial. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Millennial Generation” (1982-2002). Newsweek has described the “Millennials” as those Americans born between 1977 and 1994. A 1999 Times story describes members of “Generation Y” as having been born from 1978-98.
1993: You’re a Millennial. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Millennial Generation” (1982-2002). Newsweek has described the “Millennials” as those Americans born between 1977 and 1994. A 1999 Times story describes members of “Generation Y” as having been born from 1978-98. NB: You were born in a cusp year, and might identify with the next generation (in this case, an unnamed one).
1994-2003: An unnamed generation
1994: You’re a member of a generation that’s too young to characterize in any remotely meaningful way. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Millennial Generation” (1982-2002). Newsweek has described the “Millennials” as those Americans born between 1977 and 1994. A 1999 Times story describes members of “Generation Y” as having been born from 1978-98. NB: You were born in a cusp year, and might identify with the previous generation (in this case, Millennials).
1995: You’re a member of a generation that’s too young to characterize in any remotely meaningful way. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Millennial Generation” (1982-2002). A 1999 Times story describes members of “Generation Y” as having been born from 1978-98.
1996: You’re a member of a generation that’s too young to characterize in any remotely meaningful way. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Millennial Generation” (1982-2002). A 1999 Times story describes members of “Generation Y” as having been born from 1978-98.
1997: You’re a member of a generation that’s too young to characterize in any remotely meaningful way. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Millennial Generation” (1982-2002). A 1999 Times story describes members of “Generation Y” as having been born from 1978-98.
1998: You’re a member of a generation that’s too young to characterize in any remotely meaningful way. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Millennial Generation” (1982-2002). A 1999 Times story describes members of “Generation Y” as having been born from 1978-98.
1999: You’re a member of a generation that’s too young to characterize in any remotely meaningful way. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Millennial Generation” (1982-2002).
2000: You’re a member of a generation that’s too young to characterize in any remotely meaningful way. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Millennial Generation” (1982-2002).
2001: You’re a member of a generation that’s too young to characterize in any remotely meaningful way. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Millennial Generation” (1982-2002).
2002: You’re a member of a generation that’s too young to characterize in any remotely meaningful way. William Strauss and Neil Howe placed you in their “Millennial Generation” (1982-2002).
2003: You’re a member of a generation that’s too young to characterize in any remotely meaningful way.
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BRAINIAC’S GUIDE TO AMERICA’S RECENT GENERATIONS
1904-13: The Greatest Generation Partisans
1914-23: The Greatest Generation The New Gods
1924-33: The Silent Generation postmodern Generation
1934-43: The Silent Generation Anti-Anti-Utopian Generation
1944-53: Baby Boomers
1954-63: Baby Boomers OGX (Original Generation X)
1964-73: Generation X PC Generation
1974-83: Generation Y Net Generation
1984-93: Millennials
Please credit Brainiac/Joshua Glenn whenever you use this guide. Got a beef with my periodization, or different generational name suggestions? Leave a comment on this post or email me. Born between 1954 and 1993 and still unsure about whether you’re a Boomer, Xer, Yer, or Millennial? Here’s a handy guide.
DPZ switches from comparing Israelis to the Nazis to applauding Arafat for his insights. You make retards look like Einstein. Arafat was the biggest piece of shit ever, and if he hadn’t been such an asshole there likely would now be a Palestinian state. The fact is, the Palestinians do not want a state so much as they want the end of Israel.
Why don’t you just quote your hero Hitler next time, dumbfuck? You know you want to.
Then you Boomer fucks turned into this guy.
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And now you Boomer fucks are this guy.
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Whether or not boomers caused the financial crisis which began in 2008 and continues, is not the point. It is our system of government which allowed it, or rather lack of adherence to the constitution.
T’Bird was right is saying we inherit the system from our forebearers, who didn’t stand up to the centralized power in Washington. It is the same debate as Jefferson and Hamilton, the same conflict which gave us the Civil War, and has consistently and progressively stripped American citizens of their rights. The federal government is the problem, for more reasons than can be stated here. How does one stand up to it? The individual can by being debt free and going Galt. The gauntlet has been thrown. Do we want to live in such a society? How do we reclaim it, as if it ever was ours.
Because the Devil is the god of this world (II Cor 4:4), our only hope and salvation is from above, and to destroy the works of the devil, between our own two ears, by putting on the light of God’s Word, and eschewing evil.
Jimmy Carter was the last modern POTUS to attempt to reign in the federal bureaucracy. A peanut farmer from Georgia. Since Reagan, deficit spending has been on an exponential trajectory for one reason, and one reason only, profligate spending by the US Congress to the benefit of themselves and the 1%, at the expense of the national treasury. Because, they can read the writing on the wall, that the days of our current entitlement system are numbered, and they want to accumulate as much wealth for themselves as fast as they can, instead of doing what they should be doing, tweaking the system for the betterment of all, and forging a sustainable economic system, even at their own expense.
No one is coming to save you.
What A Waste!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMOm9_DXIaQ
flash old thing
You can post all the dross of fournalism you want, it only proves how you ignorant you are of the difference between demographic analysis and whatever the fucking Censis Bureau reckons.
The fact remains that the decline in births bottomed in 1943 — and given the 1940 peacetime draft and how the ‘contract’ was changed in August, 1941 rather suggests that 1942 saw a lot of young people playing the carpe diem card. And a lot of those young fathers never came back …
But facts never bother a linear brain who doesn’t read books, eh?
Rand could be setting himself up for a VP nod.
I don’t know what everyone has their panties in a knot over. I LOVE BOOMERS!!!!!!!
After all, they’ve been supporting me for a number of years now.
MA
Novista,
I read plenty of books .I just don’t waste time on books that serve no purpose.
And demographics doe not a a flipping thing with the constant rhyme of human nature.
Show me the fucking date/time in history when humanity awakened to the gross injustice of war and the criminal entrepreneur of government en mass?
And I mean world wide or does the high ,awakening , unraveling crisis just apply to Americans?
There has been constant war all over the globe from time immortal, so to claim a high for US whilst a the denizen of another country are being systematically slaughtered their government is proof positive that the generational theory is a load of crap.
The only purpose bullshit generational pop theory serves is to make Neil Howe some serious cash, other than that it’s pure crap and I don’t waste my time on crap.
For any that want to waste their time on crap , but not there cash, here’s a freebie.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss-Howe_generational_theory
History or what?, March 21, 2009
By
avid (Northern California) – See all my reviews
This review is from: The Fourth Turning: An American Prophecy – What the Cycles of History Tell Us About America’s Next Rendezvous with Destiny (Paperback)
I am a retired history teacher and still maintain an active interest in the subject. I was curious about The Fourth Turning after it was referred to me by friends. I am about half-way through the book and doubt I will finish it. I have struggled with it and have put it down a half-dozen times as I find the writing almost incoherent.
Most theories can be stated clearly and followed in a logical way. I think cycles in history have merit and, as the authors point out, like the seasons, do have some consistency. But to assemble the writings in a potpourri and present it as credible history is beyond my comprehension.
I am surprised that few reviews have mentioned the atrocious writing of the authors.
Novista,
I read plenty of books .I just don’t waste time on books that serve no purpose.
And demographics does not a a flipping thing to do with the constant rhyme of human nature.
Show me the fucking date/time in history when any civilzation awakened to the gross injustice of war and the criminal enterprise of government en mass?
And, I mean world wide or does the high ,awakening , unraveling crisis just apply to Americans?
There has been constant war all over the globe from time immortal, so to claim a high for US whilst the denizens of another country are being systematically slaughtered by their government is proof positive that the generational theory is a load of crap.
The only purpose bullshit generational pop theory serves is to make Neil Howe some serious cash, other than that it’s pure crap and I don’t waste my time on crap.
For any that want to waste their time on crap , but not their cash, here’s a freebie.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss-Howe_generational_theory
History or what?, March 21, 2009
By
avid (Northern California) – See all my reviews
This review is from: The Fourth Turning: An American Prophecy – What the Cycles of History Tell Us About America’s Next Rendezvous with Destiny (Paperback)
I am a retired history teacher and still maintain an active interest in the subject. I was curious about The Fourth Turning after it was referred to me by friends. I am about half-way through the book and doubt I will finish it. I have struggled with it and have put it down a half-dozen times as I find the writing almost incoherent.
Most theories can be stated clearly and followed in a logical way. I think cycles in history have merit and, as the authors point out, like the seasons, do have some consistency. But to assemble the writings in a potpourri and present it as credible history is beyond my comprehension.
I am surprised that few reviews have mentioned the atrocious writing of the authors.
Here some baby daddy millennial showing the love
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ea2_1339350934
A fathers’ love
Two loving father passionately plea to one another trying to convince the other one that he is the rightful father of the baby.
Very heartwarming and entertaining
Oh, shit .Generational theory is dead on.They’re just like the hero GI generation.They like to fight and make babies.
Novista was right….a new boomer generation is being born .WOW! WOW! WOW!
But not everyone buys this shit..But hey, If the inventor of the internet is game then I guess it has to be real science, right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss-Howe_generational_theory
Critical reception
Many reviews of their theory have been favourable. Former U.S Vice President Al Gore called Generations the most stimulating book on American history he’d ever read. He even sent a copy to each member of Congress.[5]
Some reviewers of the duo’s books, such as the New York Times’ Michael Lind have criticized their theories for being too vague, and for verging into the realm of pseudoscience.[64] Lind claims that the theory is essentially “non-falsifiable” and “mystifying,” although he believes they do have some insights into modern American history. Professional historians have generally avoided making the sorts of predictions Strauss and Howe have made, viewing it as an overly deterministic way to analyze history.[65]
Publishers Weekly called the book “as woolly as a newspaper horoscope” and many academics have been dismissive.[5] Arthur E. Levine, a former president of the Teachers College of Columbia University said “Generational images are stereotypes. There are some differences that stand out, but there are more similarities between students of the past and the present. But if you wrote a book saying that, how interesting would that book be?”[5]
flash is a never ending supply of cut and paste. Does he realize that not one person in the history of TBP has actually read one of his cut and paste posts or ever clicked on one of his links.
flash is the RE of comments.
Admin I am not a Boomer I am a Gen Xer. And please go ahead and make the argument that having tattoos from head to toe and gauging your ears is intelligent.
sensetti
You want me to find pictures of Gen X assholes to represent you? I think there might be a few. Don’t you think?
I have 3 Millenials at home and no tattoes or guages on any of them.
Fuck flash and his hypocrisy.
sensetti has now turned into the Gen X flashboomer of TBP – Master of the picture post.
Maybe you can start to cut and paste thousands of pages to back up your contention that Millenials are a worthless generation. It seems Gen X douchebags have as much hate as Boomer douchebags. Who’da thought it.
sensetti is now conveyed the crown of honorary Boomer based upon his ability to post pictures on par with flashboomer and lack of interest in using facts or his own thought process when responding to the brilliance of Admin.
It’s a sad day for GenX as another one has bitten the dust. I guess every generation has their dumbasses and morons.
sensetti
Put your trust in God.
flash is truly a Christian prophet as he spreads the word of hate, scorn and ridicule, just like his savior Jesus Christ.
Boomer and GenX hypocrisy abounds.
We all await your next picture. Make it a good one.
sensetti says- I am not a Boomer I am a Gen Xer.
According to who?
Final words on Generations X and Y
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/brainiac/2008/04/final_words_on.html
I wonder if Neil Howe listens to gangsta rap?
Or does he include gangsta culture in his generational jism ?
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Admin-I have nothing against millennials, but people are a diverse lot, and stereotyping them into predictable mindsets according to generation is a load of bullshit.
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Admin I work with many really sharp young folks everyday. I have one in Med school, one on the way to med school and three teaches. But they are the exception not the rule.
These millenials heroines will make some great moms , just like our boomer moms fer shure’
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Boomer moms were the best. I can’t understand why some Millenials are so fucked up.
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There are 87 million Millenials, with 60 million less than 21 years old.
Sensetti has done epic levels of research and concluded that the vast majority of these 87 million are worthless pieces of shit, with one or two exceptions for his own family.
How can I argue with such logic and wisdom?
Maybe another picture from flash will convince me of my errors.
flash is spouting the word of God.
Nonanaonymous says:
“Rand could be setting himself up for a VP nod.”
I would not go so far as to think that. I rather think he knows Romney will get the Republican nomination and so is making an early move to get the Liberty movement used to the idea. The Liberty movement people have to vote too. If their choice is between Romney and Obama then I think their choice is a no brainer weather they like it or not.
I do not think as Admin thinks that Romney is a statist; an advocate of statism. He just plays in the arena because that is the only game in town. His Mormon beliefs don’t support that view. The liberty movement is working to change that and Rand being a part of the liberty movement would not; I think, have a view that Romney is a statist.
I did go on Romney’s website after Admin called him a statist and found out more about him. He has a seven point plan which seems positive providing he is not lying. And contrary to what Admin says, Romney’s plan is to reduce the reach of the federal government and shrink the size of it.
We already know that Obama lies and his plan is to take this country into communism. To promote communism it is OK to lie. Obama is a statist for communism.
Romney seems OK with corporations. I think corporations have too much power of monopoly and have to be cut down in size. I don’t know if Romney would do that but before making any judgment of him I am waiting until the convention to see what his colors really are. I think everyone else should also do that before they judge the actions of Rand Paul.
I have heard nothing from Ron Paul about this.
admin-I meant to say the moms of boomers i.e. the greatest generation
I would think the majority of minnies would have parents in the Gen Y category,eh?
Delusional boomers never give up the illusion of their “greatness” despite the fact that they have wiped out our country. When you’re morally, ethically, spiritually and financially bankrupt, destroyed your health and are morbidly obese, and then transmit your diseases to the rest of the population, thereby wiping out right or wrong, good or bad, just or unjust, and all the other morals and guidelines of a healthy society and country, you have to fight for your bullshit illusions and entitlements to the death, because you have nothing else.
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er…I meant Gen X would be the parents of teenage Gen Y’s according to berkelium Howe anyway.
Generation” (1961-81); Third Millennium, following Howe and Strauss, claim you’re Generation X (1961-81). Newsweek has described the “Millennials” as those Americans born between 1977 and 1994. In a 2000 story, The New York Times described “Generation Y” as “the young people between 10 and 24″; this suggests that Yers were born from 1976-90. But a 1999 Times story describes Yers as having been born from 1978-98.
AWD,
I’m not great, just greater than you.
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admin opening up conversation with a hipster.
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Boomer’s grand philosophy of life:
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Wonder why almost half the white kids and 70% of black kids born into welfare are bastards(their parents aren’t married), or why the divorce rate is 50%, or why men can’t see their children but once a week, or why the family, the once healthy nucleus of American society, has all but become meaningless? Yea, the boomers, pushing the morals and values into the toilet.
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When are Americans going to tell the boomers enough is enough? NO MORE FOR YOU FAT FUCKS!
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The only people I see spewing hate for any generations are the Gen Whatevers.
I’ve yet to read any comment or pic posted by a boomer announcing their hate for an entire generation.
Maybe being born without balls instills a certain bitterness in one that can only manifest in hate for those they blame for their impotency.
I guess that’s why we see so many pics of overstretched anuses posted to this blog.
Flashboomer: Go fuck yourself. When the fuck are you going to get the hint and go fuck off someplace else? Are you single handedly trying to destroy this blog? Don’t you think everyone has had enough of your shit? Well, we have. Nobody respects, admires or even reads the shit you post and your non-stop mental diarrhea. Somebody mentioned last week you need professional help, but it’s probably to late for that. Do us all a favor and find someplace else to waste your time.
Everything you’ve said can be summarized into one risk factor: baby boomers. And it’s only going to get worse when those fuckers retire, their cushy self-created government jobs fade into history, and a lack of employment opportunities for young-people finally overtakes the Feds ability to pay for their un-tax funded entitlements by printing worthless greenbacks.
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I’ve seen military wars, the war on poverty, the war on drugs, the war on terrorism, the war on the wealthy. Now, I watch the war on generations. I’m a tired pre-boomer who apparently needs to die.