FREE SH*T ARMIES MARCH ON

The Free Shit Armies are storming the castle. They reproduce faster than we can fight them off. You might even be part of the Free Shit Army. If you are receiving money from any of the programs listed below, you are a private in the Free Shit Army.

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harry p.
harry p.
December 13, 2013 12:07 pm

My immediate household has no one enlisted in the FSA but like most everyone there are family members who are in it but they dont think they are because they “paid into the system” or do a “good job” for the govt at some level. I never tire of openly laugh at this statement during family gatherings.

Golden Oxen
Golden Oxen
December 13, 2013 12:20 pm

Karl is real good at crunching the numbers. If he say’s it’s a friggin joke, I believe it, and expected it anyway.

flash
flash
December 13, 2013 12:42 pm

FWIW…

http://www.epjournal.net/wp-content/uploads/ep04120128.pdf
1. Asians can’t think
And they certainly cannot think outside the box. Miller is correct to point out
that East Asians have slightly higher m
ean IQs t
han Europeans (Lynn and Vanhanen,
2002). However, East Asians have not b
een able to make creative use of their
intelligence. While they are very good at

4. The conformist culture of Asia
Part of the reason why Asians cannot think for themselves and make original
and creative contributions to science is becau
se they are too conformist. One of the
factors that Miller identifies as a possible ob
stacle to the Asian future of evolutionary
psychology (“academic conservatism”) is actually fatal. Scientific revolutions
happen by challenging the established paradi
gms. No conformists have ever brought
about a scientific revolution
absorbing existing knowledge via rote
memory (hence their high standardized test sc
ores in math and science) or adapt or
modify existing technology (hence their engi
neering achievements), they have not
been able to make original c
ontributions to
basic science.

Econman
Econman
December 13, 2013 1:25 pm

Impossible to prove that IQ shit.

You’d have more credibility posting definitions of what animal sounds mean. I forgot – if some guy with a certificate or fancy degree says it, it must be true!

Billy
Billy
December 13, 2013 2:19 pm

@ Econman

“Impossible to prove that IQ shit.”

You pooh-pooh the IQ test results, but don’t directly refute them.

Impossible? Okay, then dis-proving them must be easy.

Offer up something that directly refutes the IQ test results and the IQ tests themselves instead of “I’m asshurt at how IQ tests don’t square with my egalitarian worldview, so they must be wrong”.

KaD
KaD
December 13, 2013 3:45 pm

I tend to believe that IQ is not the only relevant factor. For instance, even IF a Bushman had a 54 IQ compared to the average European, the knowledge they DO have is sufficient for them to survive in their environment and social systems. Take a European and plunk them down in Bushman territory and see how long they make it. Learning and what is learned is only relevant according to circumstance.

Jay
Jay
December 13, 2013 3:50 pm

i got denied my FSA card and said fuck it im not gonna provide my income documents and other identity proving bullshit. i got enough cheese to survive month to month while looking for my big score through creative arts.

luckily pussy is still free though !

Sensetti
Sensetti
December 13, 2013 4:43 pm

Jay says: luckily pussy is still free though !

Jay you’ve got to be young! Pussy is never free.

Llpoh
Llpoh
December 13, 2013 5:07 pm

Hey – we Indians are smarter than apes!

That table ain’t worth talking about without source info.

AWD
AWD
December 13, 2013 7:31 pm
Spinalator
Spinalator
December 13, 2013 7:37 pm

I find all these studies “confirming” nature is more important than nurturing marginally helpful and the implied message somewhat troublesome. Suppose they find a gene or combination of genes expressed in higher proportion in psychopaths, sociopaths, politicians (maybe I’m being redundant), etc. Does this excuse them? Since you could argue, and no doubt someone might, it’s not all their fault. Then we become slaves to our genes, we have no real choice. Is the avg american kid genetically a dumbass or maybe their environment is shitty? Let’s run genetic studies on all of them.

A large amount of genetic expression can be turned on or off by processes like methylation, histone modification,etc. Where DNA is not actually modified. This means our genes are capable or great change. Besides shared upbringing and environmental factors according to the study are 48% (both actually external factors) That is a very large number of variables. Reseach has shown that the microenvironment of an embryo can influence long term changes in genetic expression, and changes in expression occur even in monozygotic twins over time. A process called epigenetic “drift”.

Billy
Billy
December 13, 2013 7:44 pm

@ KaD

You said “I tend to believe that IQ is not the only relevant factor. For instance, even IF a Bushman had a 54 IQ compared to the average European, the knowledge they DO have is sufficient for them to survive in their environment and social systems. Take a European and plunk them down in Bushman territory and see how long they make it. Learning and what is learned is only relevant according to circumstance.”

Relativistic excuse making…

IQ measures raw intelligence, not what someone has learned to survive. You’re comparing apples and Cape Buffalo. A 59 IQ retard can be taught to scrub toilets and take the bus, and a parrot can be taught Klingon.

Friggin Koko the Gorilla knew sign language. But I doubt a large population of gorillas with Koko’s level of intelligence could successfully build a civilization, or figure out how to refine aluminum, or create a steam engine.

Westcoaster
Westcoaster
December 13, 2013 8:10 pm

Can’t include Social Security in that FSA for those of us who’ve paid into the damn fund all our lives. When $ is being deducted from a paycheck each week, or in the case of self-employed sending in those pesky quarterly payments, for DECADES, you can’t say it’s “free shit”.
On the other hand, SSDI in many cases IS “free shit” along with SS payments to immigrants who’ve been here just a few years.

Llpoh
Llpoh
December 13, 2013 8:24 pm

Westcoaster – bullshit. Social security is like someone putting a dollar a month in and then thinking they therefore have funded a million dollar retirement. Money in is not nearly enough to cover what is pulled out. Medicare is vastly worse.

Wake up.

Golden Oxen
Golden Oxen
December 14, 2013 6:05 am

“The average retiree will receive twice as much SS as they paid in.”

Have a feeling you are leaving out the interest earned on those 45 years of contributions as well as the purchasing power of the money received vs what it was when paid in.

flash
flash
December 14, 2013 6:38 am

loopy, the source of the IQ chart.

LYNN, Richard, 2006. Race Differences in Intelligence: An Evolutionary Analysis. Augusta, GA: Washington Summit Publishers.
http://www.thefullwiki.org/Richard_Lynn

Lynn’s 2006 Race Differences in Intelligence: An Evolutionary Analysis[12] is the largest review of the global cognitive ability data. The book organizes the data by nine global regions,[13] surveying 620 published studies from around the world, with a total of 813,778 tested individuals.

Lynn’s meta-analysis lists the average IQ scores of East Asians (105), Europeans (99), Inuit (91), Southeast Asians and Amerindians each (87), Pacific Islanders (85), Middle Easterners (including South Asians and North Africans) (84), East and West Africans (67), Australian Aborigines (62) and Bushmen and Pygmies (54).[14][15][16]

Lynn has previously argued that nutrition is the best supported environmental explanation for variation in the lower range,[17] and a number of other environmental explanations have been advanced (see below). Ashkenazi Jews average 107-115 in the U.S. and Britain, but lower in Israel.[18] Lynn argues the surveyed studies have high reliability in the sense that different studies give similar results, and high validity in the sense that they correlate highly with performance in international studies of achievement in mathematics and science and with national economic development.

Following Race Differences in Intelligence, Lynn co-authored a further paper[19] along the lines of IQ and the Wealth of Nations with Jaan Mikk (Šiauliai University, Lithuania) – in press in Intelligence – and has co-authored a second book on the subject with Vanhanen, IQ and Global Inequality, which was published later in 2006.[20]

Lynn’s most recent book is The Global Bell Curve: Race, IQ, and Inequality Worldwide, published in June 2008.[21] In describing the book, Lynn says “it concludes that IQ is a key explanatory variable for the social sciences, analogous to gravity in physics.”[22] It was re

Golden Oxen
Golden Oxen
December 14, 2013 6:48 am

I don’t give the fattest shit what the ass hole fucking government did with my money, it is what i would have done with it that counts to me.

They took it from me. I was an ass hole not smart enough to save for myself they said. Thaey pissed it away on fucking Lefties, and your telling me that it and its current purchasing power don’t count.

You are clueless, Give me the fucking 45 years of contributions back in a lump sum if you don’t want to do what you promised, l will take it and fuck you and your Lefty Math.

Golden Oxen
Golden Oxen
December 14, 2013 7:16 am

We are talking about SS and FDR internet economist. Pull your head out of your ass and stay on the topic.

Did Hillary promise free medical to everyone while Willie was getting his weenie whizzed if you want to stray off topic Lefty Lover.?

Golden Oxen
Golden Oxen
December 14, 2013 7:39 am

You keep evading the issue college brat ass hole. Give me back my fucking money and fuck SS. There is your out dick head, why don’t you take it mathematician.

Because you are a Lefty Fuck who pissed all the fucking dough away. That’s what your kind do, spend other peoples money you steal from them.

Bostonbob
Bostonbob
December 14, 2013 7:53 am

Damn Admin,
I never thought of myself as part of the FSA for taking my tax deductions. I thought it was one of the Supreme Court jesters who said it was our duty to pay the least taxes possible or

“I am proud to be paying taxes in the United States. The only thing is – I could be just as proud for half the money.” — Arthur Godfrey, entertainer

Bob.

A tax loophole is “something that benefits the other guy. If it benefits you, it is tax reform.”
— Russell B. Long, U.S. Senator

Jay
Jay
December 14, 2013 8:23 am

wtf lol Admin is the furthest thing from a Leftist u shit garbler.

Libertarian would be my best definition of him.

Bostonbob
Bostonbob
December 14, 2013 8:31 am

“Few of us ever test our powers of deduction, except when filling out an income tax form.”
— Laurence J. Peter, author

Bob.

Golden Oxen
Golden Oxen
December 14, 2013 9:17 am

Your tax system certainly makes sense, perhaps you are not a retard after all, just in need of more education.

Have been advocating it for decades.

Bostonbob
Bostonbob
December 14, 2013 10:02 am

Admin,
I have to say you are right. “We,” the royal we, have voted in an unsustainable paradigm. We hope it will last as long as we are alive, but this will not come to pass. I personally do not care one bit if I get any of the “payoff” in the end. I am much more concerned for the future of my children. I can only do what is best for them, work hard and pray for their future. On the bright side, I had a 3.5 mile run in 12 degree weather and did not freeze to death. Now I can take the kids (17 and 20) out to get a Christmas tree.
Much thanks,
Bob.

Bostonbob
Bostonbob
December 14, 2013 10:05 am

One thing on taxes, if I could get rid of anything it would be Milt Friedman’s idea of withholding of taxes. It would serve to focus everyone on what the government really spends every time they have to right a check to Uncle Sam.
Bob.

Sensetti
Sensetti
December 14, 2013 10:07 am

Admin can you calculate how much money someone would have accumulated if the money that was deducted from their paycheck would have been invested in the Stock Market, say from 1970 until now, use median income.

That’s the number that matters to a boomer is it not?

Golden Oxen
Golden Oxen
December 14, 2013 10:27 am

You have twisted, distorted and totally obfuscated my argument.

I am against SS.

I agree with you it is a ponzi scheme.

I was forced into it against my Libertarian philosophy.

Rather than complain and call it an entitlement and fuck me out of it, just give me the fucking money back.

Got it?

Golden Oxen
Golden Oxen
December 14, 2013 10:32 am

@ reply Sensetti,

Exactly, but not the stock market, a trust fund investing in government paper yielding on average 3 %.

The money was supposed to go into the SS trust fund, instead it was pissed away.

Senator Moynihan blew the whistle that they were broke.

AWD
AWD
December 14, 2013 10:33 am

Since boomers don’t seem to understand concepts like debt, living beyond their means, destroying their health, consequences of obesity, ponzi schemes, and healthcare “at no cost to you”, and think these concepts, as they are, are perfectly normal, is it any wonder they can’t do math either?

Social Security only works as long as people are paying in now, there is no “lock box”, the government pissed away every dime you “paid in”. People trusted the criminals in Washington to make good on this ponzi scheme? Hilarious. It’s like buying an annuity from the Corleone family or Bernie Madoff.

One of these days, people are just going to quit paying taxes for this scam. SS disability will officially be bankrupt in 2016, then will start draining hundreds of billions from Social Security. The whole mess is doomed, as are boomers.

Sensetti
Sensetti
December 14, 2013 10:36 am

I understand the horse has left the barn. I was just thinking the Damn Government should have invested the SS deductions.

Golden Oxen
Golden Oxen
December 14, 2013 10:44 am

“You actually made an argument? I must have missed that in your frenzied tirade.

Are you telling me you are not getting your money back?

Where are those monthly $1,200 direct deposits going?”

Mine are 1880 a month.

My argument is it is a ponzi scheme that cannot be paid back unless the dollars are debased to have much much less purchasing power.

Since the money was taken from me against my will and unlawfully in my opinion, I want just my contribution back and out of the SS system. My view of the future value of the dollar leads me to believe I wil recoup some of the value of my stolen savings by getting them returned now.

Your lack of understanding at how relatively good money was taken and bad money is being handed out is quite frankly amazing to me. You should rethink that position and I say that in a friendly manner, not sarcastically.

KaD
KaD
December 14, 2013 11:00 am

5 trends beneath the surface in Nov. jobs report
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/5-trends-beneath-surface-nov-170828174.html

Even as the number of unemployed Americans has fallen nearly 350,000 in the past two months, the ranks of the long-term unemployed have barely budged. They number about 4.1 million. And they’re not catching many breaks. Companies are shying away from hiring workers with extended gaps in their resumes.

More than 37 percent of unemployed Americans in November have been out of work for half a year or more, a higher proportion than in October. If most of these Americans continue to be viewed as unemployable, that trend will hold back the economy’s growth.

TaxSlave
TaxSlave
December 14, 2013 11:31 am

WTF?
Stop bashing boomers.
Some of us actually have our house in order and our head not up our ass!
I blame “the greatest generation” – they gave us Roosevelt hitler stalin etc.

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 14, 2013 11:31 am

Social Security will be kaput within five years or it will be greatly curtailed (or means tested). Yes, the money was pissed away. The gravy train won’t last much longer.

Golden Oxen
Golden Oxen
December 14, 2013 11:34 am

Absolutely amazing, you just ignore everything stated and continue to spout BS and utter fabrications. Your articles over at Financial sense led me to believe you were much smarter.

i haven’t just happened on to this site, I have visited it for years, Stucky is a favorite poster of mine, a real hot ticket.

This conversation is obviously going nowhere and has gone nowhere, at least from my point of view. Perhaps a future conversation on a different topic will be more productive.

Golden Oxen
Golden Oxen
December 14, 2013 12:15 pm

You were called a Lefty by me for pissing on George Bush and Reagan. Read for comprehension and in context please. I also referred to Lefty Finance on account of you asinine SS math. It is absurd as the Left is.

You know nothing about me or my Libertarian views.

I will not get back twice as much, unlike you I know how to add and subtract in REAL terms.

I have two daughters and seven grandchildren, so I care plenty about the young and their future.

You are clueless about economics, finance, monetary history, hopefully my insights on such matters will enlighten you.

I have higher hopes for our future conversations. Talking to someone without my smarts is not a problem for me, I am very patient and a good teacher. Being surrounded by ass holes most of my life makes it an easier more mundane task than it would be for someone like you.

Bostonbob
Bostonbob
December 14, 2013 12:31 pm

Admin,
Just started snowing here on the south shore. We expect 6 to12 inches, my daughter helped me unload the snow blower from the truck, weighs about 250 lbs, she is one strong young woman. Went to DD before picking up the tree, time to drag it in and wrestle it into the stand. Merry Christmas and drive carefully.
Bob.

Golden Oxen
Golden Oxen
December 14, 2013 1:24 pm

There you go again spouting untruths again and being a child.

I never said Bush and Regan were Libertarians. you just made that up because you were proven wrong again.

I said you pissed on them, which is what Lefties do, thus my retort to you as a fucking Lefty.

I have read Mr Stockman’s book, it is an excellent overview of the problems we face. It is but another reason I would like my SS contributions handed back to me and soon.

I am not pompous at all, I just appear to be that way to the Dim only.

If you could stay on topic, read for comprehension and accuracy, accept the fact that I am smarter than you gracefully; it’s just a simple truth that you had nothing to do with so relax. Then perhaps we can get somewhere with your education.

As to Fredo, my younger brother, I suggest that you keep personal Family matters to me Harpo. Dumb Harps should “Sleep With The Fish”. Be careful Potato Head.
This was a joke line in case you didn’t get it as usual Spud Head.

asimpleman
asimpleman
December 14, 2013 1:53 pm

@ Golden Oxen and his type:
Calm down man. If you are actually drawing a SS check, you are lucky. You focus on what’s been stolen from you. Yeah, that sucks. But you’re the one eating the last cookie out of the cookie jar. You’re in the presence of a group of people who’ve all had money stolen from them, but you might be the only one in the room to get anything. My generation–we’re coming to terms with paying in and getting nothing. Good luck with what you’ve got.

Golden Oxen
Golden Oxen
December 14, 2013 2:15 pm

@ Golden Oxen and his type:
Calm down man. If you are actually drawing a SS check, you are lucky. You focus on what’s been stolen from you. Yeah, that sucks. But you’re the one eating the last cookie out of the cookie jar. You’re in the presence of a group of people who’ve all had money stolen from them, but you might be the only one in the room to get anything. My generation–we’re coming to terms with paying in and getting nothing. Good luck with what you’ve got.

Hi Asimpleman, I hear you and sympathize with your point of view. Realizing I am one the last at least getting something back is, as you say, is better than getting nothing back.

My fear is that the system will end up cutting out all those who have any assets, and be turned over to the left and their food stamp nation under the old guise of fairness. Just another redistribution of the wealth scheme to buy votes and entrench the Dems. It has already gone that way partially and is being means tested already. In other words unless you retire a penniless ass hole that pissed away all his money you will get zilch. Same ol same ol.

TeresaE
TeresaE
December 14, 2013 2:59 pm

@GO, your last comment just cracked me up!

“…My fear is that the system will end up cutting out all those who have any assets, and be turned over to the left and their food stamp nation under the old guise of fairness. …”

No shit Sherlock!

OF COURSE that was the PLAN!

Unless you want me to believe that a multi-person organization made up primarily of college graduates (back from when that actually meant something!), couldn’t understand simple math?

Anyone that had the guts to sit down and do the math quickly came to the conclusion that near the end it would have to go exactly like that.

But, don’t worry too much, first they will steal the “extra” savings of all us poor schmucks that were dumb enough to believe the 401ks and IRAs were a good deal as an alternative to having a pension gifted by will of showing up.

Once us “rich” fucks have our life savings confiscated, then we will be declared “rich,” while having SS gifted to others.

Then the recipients will be cut again, cause those gubment pensions will have to paid, after all “they promised!”

Reality is that if you are only surviving based on gubment payments or tax credits, there is going to come a day – sooner more likely than later – where you won’t be surviving.

Shit is fucked up and bullshit. Enjoy your current creature comforts and realize your grandbabies will never be so lucky.

ThePessimisticChemist
ThePessimisticChemist
December 14, 2013 4:16 pm

@GO – Tough luck naming a President that isn’t worth pissing on for some stupidity or another.

I can think of (maybe) three that I don’t outright laugh at, let alone actively despise.

Good to know you got Reagan’s limp dick up your ass though, $5 says our delicate flower doesn’t last the week here.

Llpoh
Llpoh
December 14, 2013 4:39 pm

Hahahaha! I started a shitfight, went and had a beer, and let Admin do all the mopping up.

Jesus, bit SS addicts are stoopid.

Thanks, Admin.

Any chance GoldenPox is Stucky in disguise? That he loves him so is a clue.

Llpoh
Llpoh
December 14, 2013 4:40 pm

Even the youngster are busy kicking Goldenpox in his colostomy bag. Too fucking funny.

Golden Oxen
Golden Oxen
December 14, 2013 9:49 pm

@ Lipoh and the Peckerheaded Chemist.

You two admin ass lickers are fucking works of art; restroom stall art that is.

llpoh
llpoh
December 16, 2013 5:40 pm

Hey – I just spotted that Golden Pox has called me out. Woohoo – I gets to flay me a newbie! Thanks, Admin, for bringing this thread back to life so I can bend Golden Pox over the closest desk and give him some of what I just know he loves.