Video shows officer coaxing friendly pets closer with kissing noises before opening fire

Via Police State USA

“Words can’t even explain that,” commented the dog’s owner.

A Cleburne Texas officer makes kissing noises to attract a loose family dog, only to shoot it on video.

CLEBURNE, TX — Body-cam video shows how an officer coaxed a family dog toward him with friendly kissing sounds before raising his weapon and firing.

The incident took place on August 10, 2014, when dogs belonging to Quinton Tatum and Amanda Henderson escaped from their fenced-in yard while the married couple was not at home. Some neighbors called the government to complain that the dogs were loose and interfering with them walking from their car to their house.

When a Cleburne police officer arrived at the scene, one of the pit bulls happily approached him, wagging its tail, and licked his face. This was included in the police report and can be seen on video from the officer’s body cam.

After the friendly interaction with the first dog took place in the front of the house, the officer then attempted to locate the other two dogs. They turned out to be playing in a nearby irrigation ditch between the homes, in a more obscured area.

As recorded on his body-camera, the Cleburne officer then began coaxing the dogs over to him by making kissing sounds, which can be heard in the video. The dogs respond by wagging their tails and exhibiting very friendly body language, video shows.

That’s when the officer raises his pistol and began firing. Three shots can be heard, along with a pitiful yelp.

One dog rolled over and died from the gunshots. The other frightened pet backed away, paused, then ran home.

View the moments of the shooting below:

Soon after, an animal control officer arrived on the scene with a catchpole to collect the remaining two dogs who were still alive. Video shows that animal control officer didn’t even need to use the catchpole, since speaking to the dogs in a friendly tone was all that was required to get them to follow her to a secure area with tails wagging.

The officer’s narrative is the subject of some speculation from witnesses and many who have viewed the video.

The official report states: “I raised my duty weapon to the ready position – pointed at the growling dog’s head. As soon as I lifted my pistol, the dog began coming up the hill, continuing to growl and display its teeth… I fired three shots at it.”

No growling or teeth baring is evident from the video at all. In fact, every angle of the dogs portrays them as friendly.

“Words can’t even explain that,” commented Mr. Tatum after viewing the video of the officer tricking his pet before opening fire.

The Cleburne police department is claiming that the video has been taken out of context and reiterates that the officer was only “assisting” the dog-phobic 9-1-1 callers, suggesting that they were “pinned” inside their vehicle by “aggressive” dogs.

The incident remains under department review, and the identity of the shooter remains without consequence. He has been identified as Officer Kevin Dupre.

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Billy
Billy
October 19, 2014 1:27 pm

This is pretty fucked…

I’m a dog person. I think most dogs are way better than people. I actually PREFER dogs to people…

What this fucking guy did was inexcusable. Suckering a dog closer so you can shoot it? That’s some kind of fucked up… dog was happy. Didn’t display any overt aggression at all… and this fucking psycho executed it…. why would someone DO that?? And then lie their ass off on some ‘report’ that is directly contradicted by the video footage, clearly showing his bullshit ‘report’ is a complete fabrication…

The mental illness on display here is breathtaking… I’d sooner believe “Officer” Dupre if he shoved his head up his ass and pretended he was invisible…

Animal abuse is a widely acknowledged sign of someone being psychotic… I’m thinking executing a happy, friendly dog that’s threatening nobody – actually coaxing it closer so you can kill it more efficiently – demonstrates some seriously damaged mental machinery…

Billy
Billy
October 19, 2014 1:30 pm

Followup…

And if “Officer” Dupre treats a happy dog like this when nobody’s around (I think he forgot his Death Cam was on), how will he treat the Citizenry given the same situation?

Sensetti
Sensetti
October 19, 2014 1:38 pm

If that was one of my dogs the shooter’s prognosis would be unstable.

dilligaf
dilligaf
October 19, 2014 1:52 pm

If they were in fact pit bulls, as the article states, then I have zero problem with this. It is open season on free ranging pit bulls.

If you do not want your dog shot, then keep it under control.

Billy
Billy
October 19, 2014 1:57 pm

dill,

That’s fucked up… it’s open season on a particular type of dog because you don’t like it? Because maybe some folks think they’re “scary”?

That’s the same fucked up reasoning the anti’s use to justify banning or prohibiting military pattern rifles…. they’re really no different than any other, they just happen to “look scary”….

If your justification is that pit bulls are more prone to unprovoked attacks – all things being equal and the dog hasn’t been abused in order to make it fight harder in illegal dog fights – then by all means, present your data.

dilligaf
dilligaf
October 19, 2014 2:01 pm

Ya I suppose there is a big contingent of golden retrievers in dog fighting circles. :rolleyes:

Sensetti
Sensetti
October 19, 2014 2:02 pm

That’s why I live way out in the woods so I don’t have to deal with Fucked up neighbors. My dogs are free to run the river they live a great life.

Pirate Jo
Pirate Jo
October 19, 2014 2:25 pm

“I’m a dog person. I think most dogs are way better than people. I actually PREFER dogs to people…”

First it’s income taxes, now it’s dogs. I agree with Billy AGAIN! The end must be near.

Sensetti
Sensetti
October 19, 2014 2:25 pm

It very well may go on but I’ve never met anyone involved in dog fighting in my state. Now cock fighting is another story.

Pirate Jo
Pirate Jo
October 19, 2014 2:29 pm

And this, too!

“If your justification is that pit bulls are more prone to unprovoked attacks – all things being equal and the dog hasn’t been abused in order to make it fight harder in illegal dog fights – then by all means, present your data.”

The dogs most likely to bite unprovoked? Poodles. Of course a poodle can’t rip your arm off. But just because a pit bull CAN, doesn’t me he will, or even wants to. Billy is right again. There’s no excuse for shooting a dog just because it could possibly hurt you. These dogs were friendly. What kind of awful person lets a dog come up and give him a friendly kiss, then shoots it. The dog is not the one with hostility issues, here!

Sensetti
Sensetti
October 19, 2014 2:32 pm

I have seven dogs had eight until couple months ago.I had to have one of my old Red Bone hounds put down she was fourteen and developed cancer a couple years back. I spent about 3 grand on her buying her two more good years but when her quality of life went down I had her put down. That dog was loyal to me more than ANY human I’ve ever been involved with. I still have her mother who’s 16 she still gets around good but her time is all most up.

Chicago999444
Chicago999444
October 19, 2014 2:53 pm

I think all dogs and cats are better than almost all people.

And Gawd knows they’re much better-looking than we are. Even the most beautiful (to human eyes) human in the world is one crude, shoddy piece of work compared with most animals, and we torture them and strip them of their fur and plumage in the hope it will make us a tenth as lovely at they are.

We don’t deserve the love they lavish on us. Such beautiful, sweet souls in such gorgeous houses.

bb
bb
October 19, 2014 3:00 pm

That Damn dog deserved to get shot .If a dog came running up to me like that I would shoot it to.I would do it with your gun Billy. Fucking morons. The only reason most of you like dogs is because you hate people. Dog people are people haters.

bb
bb
October 19, 2014 3:13 pm

I hate dogs because I had a mishap once and was violated

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ragman
ragman
October 19, 2014 3:22 pm

Dill: I’d rather be in the company of a couple of bullys than your sorry ass anyway!

indialantic
indialantic
October 19, 2014 3:59 pm

The official report states: “I raised my duty weapon to the ready position – pointed at the growling dog’s head. As soon as I lifted my pistol, the dog began coming up the hill, continuing to growl and display its teeth… I fired three shots at it.”

It appears Officer Dupre is a lying sack of shit.

SSS
SSS
October 19, 2014 5:18 pm

I’m sure we can all agree that puppies and babies are very annoying.

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Pirate Jo
Pirate Jo
October 19, 2014 5:23 pm

My sweet little old pug lady gets more beautiful as she ages, unlike me. Her little black mask has gone silver, now. The other morning, when I had to go to work, she was sleeping so soundly on the bed, she didn’t even wake up when I carried her out to her own little bed. (So she can reach her water dish when she wakes up.) So I doubt that if any copfuks broke in she would do anything, and they might not even know she was there, she is so quiet.

She is full of love, and so loyal. I’ve always thought she was the Sam to my Frodo, but today I watched LoTR for the umpteenth time and realized it’s the other way around. I’m Sam, and will have to carry her and stay behind someday while she takes the white ship to Valinor and goes where I can’t follow. I really feel for you, Sensetti. But there will be more children of the Great Pug Buddha to take care of, and this one will always be with me. Despite the loss that I know must come, I think she has made me a better person. It’s still a while yet, though. As old as she is, she’s still four years old again, come breakfast time!

overthecliff
overthecliff
October 19, 2014 5:54 pm

Dupre is a disgusting PRICK. bbI hope you were not serious. If you were then most of the thing written about you in comments are true.

overthecliff
overthecliff
October 19, 2014 5:57 pm

Dogs don’t know how to be unfaithful. God made them to be loyal to their pack.

Billy
Billy
October 19, 2014 6:03 pm

@ Pirate Jo,

Okay, I love dogs and all, but that last post of yours damn near gave me diabetes… had to go get an insulin shot just to post this…

@ dill

Yeah, I thought so… can’t come up with any proof that pit bulls – or any other big breed of dog, like Mastiffs or Rhodesian Ridgebacks, etc – attack unprovoked more than any other breed, so you resort to snark…

Whatever… guess we can thank God that you’re not in charge of anything… anything you deem “scary” would be banned, outlawed or taxed into oblivion…

@ Chicago

You sound like Chicken Lady BAWW-ing about her pet chicken she “rescued”…

Dude (assuming you are indeed a dude), I view humans as caretakers. The world is here for us to use – animals included. That means you use your head and have some damn respect. That do NOT mean you can or should torture the shit out of them or execute them because of some shit they might or might not do… and shit like bullfighting has to GO. That’s fucking barbaric.

As far as using them as a food source, nature is way, way more brutal and efficient than humans are. Ever see one of those nature shows where a pack of wolves chases down an elk, pulls it down and starts eating it while it’s still alive? Up Nawth, the snows were so deep that the deer were starving. Come spring, you could literally walk in the woods and see deer carcases hanging 20 feet up in a tree. They died of starvation and got caught in the branches. The snow melted, leaving them hanging there…

At least I – and hopefully other hunters – give the animal a quick, clean, honorable death – and it might seem hokey, but I actually thank the animal so that my family can eat. There’s respect there. And, since they won’t be needing their hide anymore, I use it for useful things. Almost every part of the animal is used. No trophy hunting here…

dilligaf
dilligaf
October 19, 2014 6:17 pm

Hey Billy, I do not have to prove a fucking thing to you.

I hate pit bulls. You hate niggers, spics, gooks, etc…

If one comes on my property, it is dead, simple as that. It is called the 3 S’s round here – shoot, shovel, and shut up.

oh, and your assault weapon analogy is asinine.

Goldorack
Goldorack
October 19, 2014 6:20 pm

dogs today
your children tomorrow…
prepare accordingly

bb
bb
October 19, 2014 6:21 pm

Overthecliff , I was just joking. Sometimes I just like being annoying. Billy you better read about the tribulations of RE .Being in the middle of nowhere can invite trouble. What are you going to do when packs of gangs start terrorizing your homestead?Going to be hard for you to move.What are you going to do ?

Billah's wife
Billah's wife
October 19, 2014 6:24 pm

Better watch yer self dilligaf…

Stucky
Stucky
October 19, 2014 6:28 pm

Billy

A brief Who’s Who;

— Chicago999444 is a woman.

— bb is an annoying prick.

— dilligaf sucks dick.

Me? I’m outta here cuz the discussions here lately have been moronic — due to a handful of real assholes.

Econman
Econman
October 19, 2014 6:58 pm

Aiyana Stanley-Jones surrounded by the Disney princesses that she adored. (Source: family photo)

DETROIT, MI — A Special Response Team shattered a family’s window in the middle of the night, hurled a flashbang onto a couch next to a sleeping girl, then charged in and shot her in the head. The hyper-aggressive tactics were made worse by the fact that police had taken it upon themselves to raid both sides of a duplex, when their suspect was only known to reside in one of them.

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On the evening of May 16, 2010, the Detroit Police Department’s Special Response Team (SRT) prepared for a surprise raid to arrest a wanted man. A surveillance unit had been monitoring the duplex in which he lived throughout the day and a no-knock raid was scheduled for just after midnight.

Police staged a so-called “safety briefing” shortly before the raid; undoubtedly focusing on their own safety rather than the safety of unknown innocents behind the doors they were about to kick in. Officers were briefed that they’d be entering a “possible dope den,” in which the suspect “might be armed” and might even possess “dangerous dogs.”

Police neglected to account for — or flatly disregarded — the safety of any potential children that might be present. Besides the glaring presence of toys strewn about the lawn and front porch, it is unlikely that investigators could have missed the presence of four young children and multi-generational family in the opposite unit during their surveillance of the duplex.

The raid commenced at roughly 12:40 a.m. The Special Response Team arrived in its armored vehicle with a warrant to arrest Chauncey Owens, who was known to stay with his fiancée at 4056 Lillibridge Street.

Armed with MP5 submachine guns, adrenaline, and an unhealthy fear for officer safety, the raiders shuffled past the toys that littered the front yard and ignored the two distinct street address signs hanging on either side of the shared porch of the multi-unit building; 4056 was on the left, 4054 was on the right.

The exterior of 4054-4056 Lillibridge Street, where police killed Aiyana Stanley-Jones during a botched raid. Note the toys in the yard and the prominently-displayed address signs. (AP Photo/Carlos Osorio)

A man named Mark Robinson was detained on the sidewalk while walking his dog, just before the raid. He repeatedly told officers, “There are children in the house,” yet his warnings went unheeded. He was pinned to the ground with officers’ boots on his neck and back, reported attorney Geoffrey Fieger.

The raid team was accompanied by an embedded cable TV crew, filming for A&E’s “The First 48.” With full bravado, the SRT put on a display of maximum force for the fans of police-state-adoring reality television.

Without warning, officers simultaneously attempted to breach entrances of two discrete living units of the duplex: the suspects’ location and the neighboring residence. What occurred at 4054 Lillibridge — where the suspect did NOT live — would be devastating.

In mere seconds, masked police officers stormed the porch and smashed the window of the neighbors’ downstairs apartment. They immediately tossed in a concussion grenade and kicked down the door. An officer discharged his rifle, and an innocent little girl named Aiyana Stanley-Jones was dead.

Amateur footage shot from the exterior of the building shows how quickly the raid unfolded:

From the footage above, the following timeline can be assessed:

0:24 — A dog detects the presence of police and begins to bark.
0:27 — Police being shouting indiscernibly.
0:28 — An officer uses a bludgeon to shatter the picture window of Aiyana’s residence. A flashbang grenade is thrown in immediately.
0:29 — The flashbang explodes inside Aiyana’s residence, lighting up the porch.
0:33 — A pop can be heard; presumably the fatal gunshot.
When the smoke cleared, 7-year-old Aiyana Stanley-Jones was found on the couch, covered with blood, with a gunshot to the head. She had been sleeping on the couch next to her grandmother, Mertilla Jones. A mere 3 seconds passed from the time of the first shouts until officers entered the home. Aiyana was shot in six seconds.

The grenade had fallen directly onto the couch, where it scorched Aiyana’s “Hannah Montana” blanket, and caused Ms. Jones to dive for the floor.

Officer Joseph Weekley poses in his department issued mask and SWAT outfit. (Source: WXYZ-TV)

The moment a flashbang grenade exploded inside Aiyana Stanley-Jones’ living room.

The trigger man was 37-year-old Officer Joseph Weekley, who both drove the armored personnel carrier and led the team through Jones’s door. Wielding a ballistic shield and an MP5, the 14-year DPD veteran claimed that he lost control of his weapon, but not for the reason one would expect. He blamed Aiyana’s grandma.

Officer Weekley’s novel defense was that Mertilla Jones rose up as he entered the apartment and “reached for his gun.” In his version of events, contact with grandmother caused him to pull the trigger of his submachine gun, subsequently striking the sleeping girl.

Mertilla Jones gave a very different account. She said that she had been dozing in and out of sleep on the couch when she was startled by the shattering of glass and the deafening incendiary device hurled through the window. Ms. Jones claims she reached to protect her granddaughter and made no contact with any officer, according to the Detroit Free Press.

“They blew my granddaughter’s brains out,” said Ms. Jones. “They killed her right before my eyes. I watched the light go out of her eyes.”

Officer Weekley was no stranger to controversy. Previously during his six years on the Special Response Team, he had been named among several officers in a federal lawsuit regarding no-knock raid in which officers aimed rifles at small children and shot two family pets in 2007.

In addition to Aiyana, three other children were in the house at the time: Carlos (age four), Pierre (age two), and Christian (age three months). The capacity for mistakes in such a household was monumental.

Charles Jones recoils in despair after his little girl was shot in the head by police. (Photo: Mandi Wright / Detroit Free Press)

The blood-stained couch where Aiyana Stanley-Jones was killed by police.
(Source: Abayomi Azikiwe)

Aiyana’s parents, Charles Jones and Dominika Stanley, were sleeping nearby and rushed toward the sound of the loud noise and tragic screams. Mr. Jones was forced to lie on the floor, face-down in his daughter’s blood and shards of broken glass.

“Her blood was everywhere and I was trying to stay calm, but nobody would talk to me. None of them even tried to console me,” Mr. Jones told The Detroit News. “I’ll never be the same.”

Ms. Stanley testified similarly that she was forced to sit on the couch spattered with her daughter’s blood for hours while police detained the family at the scene.

Mertilla Jones was not initially detained, despite the claim that she supposedly tried to steal Officer Weekley’s weapon. Before the night was over, however, police decided to cuff her and hauled her down to Detroit Receiving, where she was tested for drugs in her system and later for gunshot residue on her skin. She sorrowfully recalled being detained for at least 8 hours, away from her family on perhaps the most traumatic day of their lives.

The family says it took hours for them to be shown a warrant — not until “about 4 or 5 a.m., as they were driving away” (more on the warrant later).

The actual homicide suspect was arrested in the apartment upstairs without incident.

DISTORTING THE FACTS

One of the major deceptions permeating the coverage of this case was the notion that Aiyana lived in the same residence as the subject of the search warrant. This was plainly false, as the building was a duplex with separate units, not connected internally whatsoever.

This diagram provided by attorney Geoffrey Fieger demonstrates how police raided two separate entrances of two separate living units. (AP Photo / Geoffrey Fieger)

Attorney Geoffrey Fieger, who represented Aiyana’s family, stressed during a press conference that various facts were being distorted by the police and media.

“[Police] were going into both doors,” Mr. Fieger said. “The upstairs flat is on the left. Aiyana’s flat — where I want to stress that Mr. Chauncy Owens did not reside, never resided, never stayed — is on the right.”

Furthermore, police charged into the raid with an improper warrant to search both units, Mr. Fieger asserted. After improperly raiding both living units, police went back and covered their mistake by acquiring a retroactive search warrant for the second half. The official story glossed over that detail.

Feiger explained: “In the video they break into both the upstairs flat and the downstairs flat. The problem is they don’t have a warrant for the upstairs. (Assistant Police Chief Ralph Godbee) didn’t tell you when he got the second search warrant. After Aiyana was killed and after he broke into the upstairs apartment and arrested (the suspect).”

Another falsehood was the department’s claim that Aiyana was shot in the neck. In fact, Aiyana was shot in the top of the skull, with the bullet exiting through the bottom of her chin, then grazing her chest.

The third, and most dubious claim, was the story that Aiyana’s grandmother tried to grab the officer’s gun and caused it to fire, under no fault of Officer Weekley. The district attorney’s office did not find the officer’s story credible and charged him with felony involuntary manslaughter and careless discharge of a firearm causing death.

REALITY TV STAR

America’s fetish with the police state may have indirectly played a role in the unnecessary, hyper-aggressive tactics employed against Aiyana and in other situations in Detroit. Author William N. Grigg astutely observed the following:

Ofc. Joseph Weekly poses with a department-issued grenade launcher. (Source: A&E)

The truly sickening thing about the death of Aiyana Jones is that the decision to carry out a SRT raid was almost certainly dictated by the media ambitions of Detroit Police Chief Warren Evans, who — in the words of Detroit News columnist Charlie LeDuff — is positioning himself as a “reality TV” star.

“Television executives around the country have been shown what is known in television parlance as the `sizzle reel’ of Chief Evans himself, a video compilation of Detroit’s top cop trying to take back the streets,” writes LeDuff, who saw that footage several weeks ago. “It is part of a pitch for a full-blown television series.”

As Detroit’s civic and economic implosion accelerates, the city has become an irresistible setting for state-centric media outlets “peddling mayhem,” continues LeDuff. “Spike TV featured the Detroit bureau of the Drug Enforcement Administration in 2008. A&E is taping a season of `Parking Wars’ here; production on a series about the Fire Department wrapped late last year. Even Animal Planet is in on the deal with `Animal Cops Detroit.’”

Joseph Weekley had himself been featured numerous times on various Detroit-based police reality shows. His cop nickname was “Brain.”

WEEKLEY’S 1ST TRIAL

At the June 2013 trial, Joseph Weekley’s defense stuck with the argument that the victim’s grandmother was to blame for his sloppy weapons-handling.

Officer Joseph Weekley makes excuses for his pathetic trigger discipline during his trial. (Photo: David Coates)

“She hit it in a downward motion,” Weekley said of his submachine gun during testimony at his first trial, according to the Associated Press. “As she hits it down, I start to pull it back. I hear the shot.”

Weekley’s defense argued that he should not be scapegoated for behavior linked to the missteps of his bosses. His attorney, Steve Fishman, said in court filings that Weekley “had nothing to do with the planning of the raid and was merely a police officer assigned to a certain position … by a superior officer.” He argued that his client should not be deemed responsible for the “ineptitude of the officer assigned to deploy” the flashbang.

Aiyana’s grandmother was the key witness at the trial. Her testimony marked the fifth day of the emotional testimonies.

“That’s what I figured all of them was there to do — to murder. They came to kill, and they killed a 7-year-old,” Mertilla Jones testified. Breaking down sobbing, she described the raid, saying “their arm was pointed at Aiyana’s head. They pulled the trigger. Blood started coming out of her mouth. She was dead.”

The jury was then excused for about 15 minutes.

Prosecutor Rob Moran closed his argument by emphasizing that Weekley’s story was fabricated to cover for gross negligence.

“It didn’t happen. It did not happen,” Moran stressed, arguing the implausibility of Mertilla Jones rushing for the door in mere seconds after the window broke.

“All he had to do was keep his finger off the trigger,” Moran pointed out, which is among the most elementary of firearms safety rules.

In the end, the jury was hung, and Wayne County Circuit Judge Cynthia Gray Hathaway declared it to be a mistrial.

WEEKLEY’S 2ND TRIAL

Officer Joseph Weekley stood trial for a second time in September 2014. This time the more serious charge of manslaughter was dismissed, and Weekley’s trial revolved around the charge of careless or reckless firing of a weapon causing death, which carries a potential 2 year prison sentence.

Prosecutor Rob Moran again poked holes in the police narrative. If Mertilla Jones grabbed for Weekley’s gun, as the officer alleged, then why did it take hours for police to place her in handcuffs, he asked. Wouldn’t police detain and arrest her immediately?

The prosecution also showed using forensic evidence that Mertilla Jones’ fingerprints were not among those found on Weekley’s gun.

Jurors ultimately deadlocked in a 7-5 split in favor of acquittal and could not agree about whether Weekley was negligent or not. Deliberations went on for four days.

Judge Hathaway again declared it to be a mistrial in October 2014 when no unanimous verdict could be reached. At this point, prosecutors could either attempt a third trial, or decline to proceed with further prosecution.

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Aiyana Stanley-Jones beams before slicing into her birthday cake. (Source: family photo)

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Chicago999444
Chicago999444
October 19, 2014 7:20 pm

Billy has obviously never known the love of a cat or dog, or one of the super-intelligent birds such as macaws and parrots

Now, CHICKENS? Chickens are sorta cute, I suppose, but I like them best roasted and stuffed with a nice wild rice and mushroom stuffing.

I believe we owe it to the animals who give us our food to be humane. They should never suffer. A farm animal should lead a delightful life with only one bad day.. the day he is humanely slaughtered for food.

Be grateful for all the creatures who have given their lives for your food and clothing, and treat them with kindness.

Billah's wife
Billah's wife
October 19, 2014 7:24 pm

$10 says Stucky will post in less than an hour.

Billy
Billy
October 19, 2014 7:44 pm

“Billy has obviously never known the love of a cat or dog, or one of the super-intelligent birds such as macaws and parrots” — Chicago

Aaand you assume I’ve never owned a dog or cat – or several – in my life because??

Maybe you asked the Magic 8 Ball?

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Or the Magic Conch? ALL HAIL THE MAGIC CONCH!!

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Or didja just pull that out of your ass to try and make me look bad?

@ Stucky,

Other than the whole Chicago = female thing, I knew the rest, thanks…

And dildogaf does suck dick…

Billy
Billy
October 19, 2014 8:00 pm

The Magic Conch knows all!!!!

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 19, 2014 8:18 pm

Check out the stats re what dogs kill humans. Pit bulls top the list. Mastiffs, etc follow up a distant second.

Pit bulls may be no more likely to bite than most others. But when they do, they are extremely dangerous.

A pit bull I grew up around – owned by a friend of the family – was the nicest dog you ever could meet. He loved humans. I was never afraid of him – but later events showed me my trust was misplaced.

One day he got out of his fenced yard in a rural area, and began roaming. When he had finished roaming he had killed virtually every other animal in the neighborhood – cows, pigs, dogs – you name it he had killed it. Then he came trotting happily home, all smiles and waggy tail.

These animals were bred specifically to kill, and they are damn good at it.

Some dogs are herd dogs, some are retrievers, some are lap dogs. Pit bulls were bred to kill – it is that simple. And kill they do when they take a mind to do so. They are particularly dangerous to other animals, but humans are not always immune. Two pit bulls would kill an unarmed grown man if they tried, maybe just one could do it. They are latchers – once they latch on, they do not let go.

I have seen what they can do so if one comes into my yard – where I have small dogs at the moment (big dogs are not much safer from them) – it will not be welcomed. If it can be safely shooed, it will be shooed. If my dogs can be secured, they will be. But if there is any issue, I would err on the side of caution, as I will not have my dogs killed by a stray.

But what this cop did was despicable.

Maggie
Maggie
October 19, 2014 9:17 pm

I believe most dogs accused of crimes were set up by the cat. Never trust a cat.
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They will screw the pooch EVERY time.
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By the way… I found the Naked Chicks aren’t that hot image…
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Maggie
Maggie
October 19, 2014 9:19 pm

Not sure why this one didn’t show… is the main point!

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Sensetti
Sensetti
October 19, 2014 9:45 pm

My Maggie my. I like naked chicks.

Billy
Billy
October 19, 2014 11:11 pm

Mags,

Reminds me of that one scene in The Losers…

Jensen: Did you know that cats can make one thousand different sounds and dogs can only make ten? Cats, man. Not to be trusted.

Pooch: You know what? Do me a favor – NEVER say that again.

I seriously love that movie… some of the best lines I’ve ever heard…

As the Ancient Tibetan Philosophy states: “Don’t start none, won’t be none.”

Billah's wife
Billah's wife
October 19, 2014 11:17 pm

When I saw “friendly pets….kissing noises” I thought Billah had tol the story about when we kidnapped our neighbor’s schnoodle and made it lick peanut butter Billah’d smeared where the sun don’t shine.

EC
EC
October 20, 2014 12:20 am

Murder by cop. This is a fucked up video.

There is the abandoned dog indicator, when times are tough, people dump pooches in the desert.
One woman reported that a pit bull wandered into her yard and bit her horse in the midsection, her husband shot the dog. She said due to the irresponsible owner who abandoned the dog, her horse was being cared for by the vet and a magnificent animal was dead.

A dog owner recently got a prison term because his pit bulls were out of the yard an they attacked and killed an elderly lady out for a walk.

My buddy had a pit that he took out for a walk in the park at 3AM everyday, he said it was the only time he could be sure no other dogs would be around because his dog would attack them.

NickelthroweR
NickelthroweR
October 20, 2014 2:27 am

Greetings,

I believe that we can all agree that we are being occupied by a hostile foreign force. Under these conditions, it only makes sense that we combat this by setting up alternative/parallel institutions. We should begin by setting up our own schools and, more importantly, our own courts. With the system as it stands, the family that owned these dogs will never see any real justice.

The policeman and those that covered up his criminal activities must be held to account and if the system the occupiers have will not do so then, perhaps, it is time we consider a different path.

gbyerley
gbyerley
October 20, 2014 5:34 am

Rudyard Kipling
“The Power of the Dog”

There is sorrow enough in the natural way
From men and women to fill our day;
And when we are certain of sorrow in store,
Why do we always arrange for more?
Brothers and Sisters, I bid you beware
Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.

Buy a pup and your money will buy
Love unflinching that cannot lie —
Perfect passion and worship fed
By a kick in the ribs or a pat on the head.
Nevertheless it is hardly fair
To risk your heart for a dog to tear.

When the fourteen years which Nature permits
Are closing in asthma, or tumour, or fits,
And the vet’s unspoken prescription runs
To lethal chambers or loaded guns,
Then you will find — it’s your own affair —
But . . . you’ve given your heart to a dog to tear.

When the body that lived at your single will,
With its whimper of welcome, is stilled (how still!)
When the spirit that answered your every mood
Is gone — wherever it goes — for good,
You will discover how much you care,
And will give your heart to a dog to tear.

We’ve sorrow enough in the natural way,
When it comes to burying Christian clay.
Our loves are not given, but only lent,
At compound interest of cent per cent.
Though it is not always the case, I believe,
That the longer we’ve kept’em, the more do we grieve;

For, when debts are payable, right or wrong,
A short-time loan is as bad as a long —
So why in Heaven (before we are there)
Should we give our hearts to a dog to tear?

overthecliff
overthecliff
October 20, 2014 10:20 am

I know that this site is a place where unfettered debate takes place. No holds barred. However,Billy has gone over the line by making fun of Sponge Bob and Patrick.

overthecliff
overthecliff
October 20, 2014 10:22 am

That dog will be waiting at the Rainbow Bridge.

Dan
Dan
October 20, 2014 11:42 am

It’s actually comical that billy will pontificate that there is no proof of pitbulls attacking unprovoked over any other breed when there is a gazillion stats to prove otherwise, the least of which is 700 US cities enacting breed specific bans on the piece of shit dogs or the documented fact they have killed/maimed more people than any other dog breed period, but I guess in Billy’s Sponge Bob world view all of those deaths were because people were taunting the dog, even the little babies and children who became pitbull Alpo instigated their own attacks, we all know how aggressive a cooing baby can be.

Like the women in this link and the 100’s of other incidents like it, I guess it was her fault for walking. We all know it would of been the same outcome had she been confronted by golden labs, eh Billy?

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-owner-pit-bulls-mauled-woman-sentencing-20141003-story.html

There is even stats to prove the owners of pits are mostly of a criminal element or just plain fucked in the head.

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From an article titled “are pitbulls dangerous”

Fans of pit bulls are quick to assert that a dog’s propensity for attack depends in large part on its owner and how it is raised, and there’s considerable evidence that owners of pit bulls and other high-risk dogs are themselves high-risk people.

A 2006 study from the Journal of Interpersonal Violence revealed that owners of vicious dogs were significantly more likely to have criminal convictions for aggressive crimes, drugs, alcohol, domestic violence, crimes involving children and firearms.

These findings were confirmed in a 2009 report published in the Journal of Forensic Sciences. The authors of that report wrote, “Vicious dog owners reported significantly more criminal behaviors than other dog owners,” and they were ranked “higher in sensation seeking and primary psychopathy.”

And a 2011 study, also in the Journal of Forensic Sciences, found that “vicious dog owners reported significantly higher criminal thinking, entitlement, sentimentality and super-optimism tendencies. Vicious dog owners were arrested, engaged in physical fights, and used marijuana significantly more than other dog owners.”
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Frankly, I don’t know which is worse, pitbulls, pitbull sympathizers, or the dumb shit owners of pitbulls that are either grossly misinformed about the shit breed they own or are on the other side of the equation, they know exactly what they own and get their rocks off by owning a vicious dog. They probably also beat up their old lady and kids to prove how manly they are, birds of a feather, err, I mean, aggressive assholes of a feather…..

dilligaf
dilligaf
October 20, 2014 1:41 pm

and stucky says – I’m outta here cuz the discussions here lately have been moronic.

This coming from the guy who spent a day extolling the virtues of id like to kick you in the fuck.

Billy
Billy
October 20, 2014 2:20 pm

“It’s actually comical that billy will pontificate that there is no proof of pitbulls attacking unprovoked over any other breed when there is a gazillion stats to prove otherwise, the least of which is 700 US cities enacting breed specific bans on the piece of shit dogs or the documented fact they have killed/maimed more people than any other dog breed period” — Dan

Okay Dan.

My original statement, that being: “If your justification is that pit bulls are more prone to unprovoked attacks – ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL AND THE DOG HASN’T BEEN ABUSED IN ORDER TO MAKE IT FIGHT HARDER IN ILLEGAL DOG FIGHTS – then by all means, present your data.”

So, following my original statement, let’s see some of those “gazillion stats”. Because all you’ve offered so far – hysterical knee-jerk reactionism in the face of assholes abusing dogs to make them fight harder in illegal dogs fights – isn’t getting any traction. The dickheads abusing the dogs to make them meaner are the goddamned problem, NOT the dogs. Then they either dump them somewhere, and then they attack someone, and some mush-head like you believes that they’re more prone to unprovoked attacks because that’s their nature…

And a couple second or third hand quotes from some newspaper does NOT count as “proof”.

““Vicious dog owners reported significantly more criminal behaviors than other dog owners,” and they were ranked “higher in sensation seeking and primary psychopathy.” – LA Times. Gee, ya fuckwit, ya think that the criminal psychopaths who own dogs just MIGHT abuse them? Jeezus… use your head for something else other than a buttplug…

Let’s see an unbiased study from a good source on unprovoked dog attacks on humans, where the dog hasn’t been abused, mistreated or fought in an illegal dog fight.

You and dildogaf should get a room…

Billy
Billy
October 20, 2014 2:23 pm

Sorry… left out drug dealing shitbags who own Pitbulls to protect their drug houses… they mistreat and abuse the shit out of them to make them mean as hell….

@ cliff

For the record, I’d rather have Patrick as #EbolaCzar than the political crony they got now…

Stucky
Stucky
October 20, 2014 2:25 pm

dilldo — wheb was the LAST time you EVER posted an article on ANYTHING?

Oh? Never?

So, why don’t you just shut the fuck up, or go play with your dildo, or go diddle your dog, or whatever.

Dan
Dan
October 20, 2014 2:37 pm

@ billy

You’re an idiot.

The lunacy that dogs only attack when abused, mistreated, or fought in an illegal dog fight is the stupidest thing you’ve posted to date, and that’s saying something.

Pitbulls suck, their owners suck, and clueless pitbull sympathizers like you suck the worst.

I hope you choke on your shitty bread.

dilligaf
dilligaf
October 20, 2014 3:16 pm

Stucky says:

dilldo — wheb was the LAST time you EVER posted an article on ANYTHING?

Oh? Never?

Might want to go double check that cock knock.

and I have a riveting pictorial essay on shit houses of the 16th century you should love.

Billy
Billy
October 20, 2014 5:35 pm

“The lunacy that dogs only attack when abused, mistreated, or fought in an illegal dog fight is the stupidest thing you’ve posted to date, and that’s saying something.” — Dildo Dan

Way to misquote me, cumstain…

I never said ONLY ATTACK WHEN ABUSED, etc.. you just made that shit up, pretended I said it, then used it as a club to beat me over the head with…

Show me where I said it, dick breath…

Crickets…

The challenge was to produce proof to backstop the argument that Pit bulls attacked unprovoked more than any other breed, because I don’t fucking buy it.

To keep it fair, NONE of the dog breeds should have been abused or mistreated before any stats are compiled or a study is done.

Did anyone provide even a SHRED of decent evidence, you included?

Again, crickets…

Anyone can abuse the shit out of an animal, make it mean as fuck and then set it loose on someone. That asshole drug dealers or other assholes who fight dogs illegally favor one breed over others ain’t the damn DOG’S fault, you goddamn retard…

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“I hope you choke on your shitty bread.”

I’m less likely to choke on homemade bread than you are choking on the dick you suck behind that dumpster… sucking dick ain’t no way to make a living, boy…

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