Guest Post by Patrick J. Buchanan
From first reactions, it appears that Hill Republicans will be near unanimous in voting a resolution of rejection of the Iran nuclear deal.
They will then vote to override President Obama’s veto of their resolution. And if the GOP fails there, Gov. Scott Walker says his first act as president would be to kill the deal.
But before the party commits to abrogating the Iran deal in 2017, the GOP should consider whether it would be committing suicide in 2016.
For even if Congress votes to deny Obama authority to lift U.S. sanctions on Iran, the U.S. will vote to lift sanctions in the U.N. Security Council. And Britain, France, Germany, Russia and China, all parties to the deal, will also lift sanctions.
A Congressional vote to kill the Iran deal would thus leave the U.S. isolated, its government humiliated, unable to comply with the pledges its own secretary of state negotiated. Would Americans cheer the GOP for leaving the United States with egg all over its face?
And if Congress refuses to honor the agreement, but Iran complies with all its terms, who among our friends and allies would stand with an obdurate America then?
Israel would applaud, the Saudis perhaps, but who else?
And as foreign companies raced to Iran, and U.S. companies were told to stay out, what would GOP presidential candidates tell the business community?
Would the party campaign in 2016 on a pledge to get tough and impose new sanctions? “Coercive diplomacy,” The Wall Street Journal calls it.
If so, what more would they demand that Iran do? And what would they threaten Iran with, if she replied: We signed a deal. We will honor it. But we will make no new concessions under U.S. threat.
Would we bomb Iran? Would we go to war? Not only would Americans divide on any such action, the world would unite — against us.
And would a Republican president really bomb an Iran that was scrupulously honoring the terms of the John Kerry deal? What would we bomb? All the known Iran nuclear facilities will be crawling with U.N. inspectors.
“Either the issue of Iran obtaining a nuclear weapons is resolved diplomatically through negotiation or it’s resolved through force,” said the president, “Those are the options.”
Is that not pretty much where we are at, even if the GOP does not like it?
Republicans seem to be unable to grasp the changes that have taken place in this century. With the Arab Spring, the fall of half a dozen regimes, the rise of al-Qaida and ISIS, civil wars in Libya, Syria, Yemen and Iraq, we have a new Middle East.
Our principal enemies are now al-Qaida and ISIS. And while both have been aided by our old allies, Turkey, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia, both are being resisted by Iran.
But, we are reminded, Iran’s regime is founded upon ideological hatred of America. But, so, too, were Mao’s China and Stalin’s USSR. Yet Nixon forged a detente with Mao and FDR partnered with Stalin. And Ronald Reagan negotiated a strategic arms deal with the “evil empire” of his time.
Bibi Netanyahu and AIPAC, the Saudis and Gulf Arabs, will demand that Congress kill the Iran deal that Lindsey Graham says is a “death sentence for the State of Israel.” But one trusts that, this time, the GOP will add a dose of salt to what the hysterics are bellowing.
After all, it was Bibi’s rants — Iran is hellbent on getting a bomb, is only months away, and military action is needed now to smash the whirling centrifuges — that teed up the talks for Tehran.
All Iran had to do was prove it had no bomb program, which was not difficult, as U.S. intelligence had repeatedly said Iran had no bomb program.
Then the Iranians proved it. They agreed to cut their centrifuges by two-thirds, to eliminate 98 percent of their uranium, to halt production of 20 percent uranium at Fordow, to convert the heavy-water reactor at Arak that produces plutonium to a light water reactor that produces one kilogram a year, and to let cameras in and give U.N. inspectors the run of their nuclear facilities.
And how is Israel, with hundreds of atom bombs, mortally imperiled by a deal that leaves Iran with not a single ounce of bomb-grade uranium?
What does Iran get? What Iran always wanted. Not a bomb which would make Iran a pariah like North Korea and could bring down upon her the same firestorm America delivered to Iraq, but a path to become again the hegemon of the Persian Gulf.
Remarkable. Iran agrees not to build a bomb it had already decided not to build, and we agree to lift all sanctions. And they pulled it off.
What is one or two atom bombs you can’t use, without committing national suicide, compared to $100 billion in freed assets and a welcome mat back to the community of nations.
“And would a Republican president really bomb an Iran that was scrupulously honoring the terms of the John Kerry deal?”
A rather ludicrous proposition, don’t you think?
Iran is not going to “scrupulously” honor any terms of any deal, and there are no provisions in the deal that would actually hold them to it anyway.
If you have enemies you have to recognize them as such and know how they operate, otherwise you end up losing to them before you even realize you are at war with them.
Iran is our enemy, not our friend.
The Israeli capture of the US Congress is pretty obvious here. Can you imagine some nation trying to negotiate with us and saying we had to allow their inspectors anywhere they wanted to go anytime they wanted to go there? They would get back a big “Fuck You.”
The problem is, we all know it’s about money, but the morons out there in voting land think Israel is somehow sacred and we need to protect them. Idiots.
“Iran is our enemy, not our friend.” ——— Anonymous
ISRAEL is our enemy, not our friend
There … fixed it for ya.
“And if Congress refuses to honor the agreement, but Iran complies with all its terms,…”
If the terms of the deal were, in effect, nothing but Swiss Cheese, then an honorable CONgress should refuse to honor the deal.
I had friends who were taken hostage at the US embassy in Iran back in the day, but hold no grudge today. Iran is no friend of the USA, but not because of any hatred for Americans; their hostility is directed against the powers that be that insist on demonizing them for failure to conform to the ever-more-prevalent hostility to traditional values and to unconditional support of an “ally” that views the average American as cannon fodder in the struggle to impose its own interests and those of its principal supporters who do NOT identify with traditional American values or those who support them. The globalist agenda is on its face anti-American and Americans would be wise to recognize as hostile to US interests those who incessantly promote “values” such as organ harvesting, destruction of the family, unfettered immigration, etc., etc.
I have many lifelong friends and former colleagues who are of Jewish ethnic ancestry, although few of them are believers in the religion. I value these friendships in spite of political differences, but if I am forced to take a stand (as I believe is now the case), I may lose some of these friendships, and it will be with great regret, but as many here have pointed out, “tolerance” of frontal attacks on traditional values has reached its limits for me, and I will hereafter “side” with my own now that it is coming down to that. Enough is enough! I favor this “deal” and hope the USA returns to its traditional “America First” policy as implied in George Washington’s farewell address.
Montefrío…..the only problem I have with your post is that you are taking a definitive position on the Iran nuclear deal, but none of us know anything about the details of the deal.
It is just like believing in Global Warming simply cuz one is a registered Dem. but knows zilch about the details (fraud, corruption, lies, political agenda, not science, fraudulent Adjustments and Homogenization to the Temp. records, ignoring the geologic record, Fear Mongering all the time, etc., etc.).
I would suggest you wait for the details of the deal.
1. Nothing is as it is represented in the “media.”
2. All rulers are demons.
3. Common men act like sock puppets when they pound the table, insisting that “their” guys are “right.”
People are TRULY disgusting.
As for comments above, ANONYMOUS at 8:04 AM must need a lot of Preparation H to counter the discomfort of having the Ministry of Truth’s arm rammed THAT HIGH up his ass.
I’m telling you, I’m a big guy, but in order to work another man’s mouth like a sock puppet that well, I’m not sure I could even see my elbow and if I were bicep-deep, that’s over 15″ of circumference he’d have to deal with.
Maybe it’s a petite woman who’s working his mouth.
kokoda says:
Montefrío…..the only problem I have with your post is that you are taking a definitive position on the Iran nuclear deal, but none of us know anything about the details of the deal.
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Wrong. Read the fucking thing yourself or shut the fuck up.
http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/world/full-text-of-the-iran-nuclear-deal/1651/
@Kokoda
Your point is well taken, but my position simply enough is that I do not consider Iran to be an “enemy” of the USA and believe that Mr. Buchanan is correct when concluding that a nuclear option for Iran is not truly the issue. The devil may well be in the details, but at this stage of the game, I’d rather try and work things out with Iran than simply be a lickspitlle of the Israeli position on this issue or nearly any other.
I also had a considerably older friend and mentor who took a very active in-country part in the overthrow of Mossadegh in Iran and came to deeply regret it in later years, believing that he and his colleagues had been used to further the interests of those who viewed the average American as a boob who lacked the intelligence to decide what was “best” for Americans.
In any case, when all is said and done, nearly all of this stuff is theater to distract the gormless while their pockets continue to be picked by those who believe themselves to be your betters. Start asking yourself if you believe they’re correct.
Zara….the most contentious issue in the negotiations as ACCESS: two choices – the access-based approach or the issue-based approach.
Iran refused access-based (The US government, during the negotiations, had proposed a list of 18 scientists to be screened/interviewed. Iran said no.). So, with the issue-based approach:
The agreement requires international inspectors to ask Iran’s permission first, after which Iran has 14 days to decide whether to grant it. If not, the same group of nations that struck the deal would have another 10 days to make their decision about what to do next. While the international group may have final say, the set-up essentially gives Iran 24 days to drag out the process, though officials say this is not enough time to hide all evidence of illicit conduct.
So, Zara, tell me what the P5 +1 is going to do when Iran says fuck you to granting permission and the 24 days are up. Will they huddle together and take 5 more years to start another round of sanctions? This is a joke.
Stucky, how many Americans has Israel taken hostage?
How many Americans has Israel killed?
How may times has Israel failed to back us up in international affairs, particularly military ones?
You are a fool at best, and probably deliberately so.
Anon
Ever heard of the USS Liberty?
The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft and Israeli Navy motor torpedo boats, on 8 June 1967, during the Six-Day War. The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two Marines, and one civilian), wounded 171 crew members, and severely damaged the ship.[4] At the time, the ship was in international waters north of the Sinai Peninsula, about 25.5 nmi (29.3 mi; 47.2 km) northwest from the Egyptian city of Arish.
Anon
How many Americans has Iran killed?
Anon
How many Iranians have been killed by the US?
Iran Air Flight 655 was an Iran Air civilian passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai. On 3 July 1988, the aircraft operating this route was shot down by the United States Navy guided missile cruiser USS Vincennes. The incident took place in Iranian airspace, over Iran’s territorial waters in the Persian Gulf, and on the flight’s usual flight path. The aircraft, an Airbus A300 B2-203, was destroyed by SM-2MR surface-to-air missiles fired from Vincennes.
All 290 on board, including 66 children and 16 crew, died.
Anonymous says:
How many Americans has Israel killed?
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34 from the USS Liberty
kokoda says:
So, Zara, tell me what the P5 +1 is going to do when Iran says fuck you to granting permission and the 24 days are up. Will they huddle together and take 5 more years to start another round of sanctions? This is a joke.
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The joke is any notion that Iran has/had an atom bomb program. When are we going to get international inspectors into Dimona?
After 24 days, the P5+1 will meet and decide to threaten Iran. Iran, like N. Korea, will laugh hysterically after receiving the threat in person from Mr. Ketchup. This is just another deal like Clinton did with N. Korea.
Your reference to Israel is ridiculous – they have not threatened any state with extinction.They are not ruled by religious extremists.
Anyone that thinks Iran is not pursuing the Bomb is in a comatose state. Yes, it will take time. They recognize the benefits of having a nuclear capability, especially in the ME. Over a period of time, they will become the hegemon of that area of the globe.
kokoda says:
Your reference to Israel is ridiculous – they have not threatened any state with extinction.They are not ruled by religious extremists.
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You’re right. Israel is ruled by a war criminal.
@Kokoda: Anyone who believes Israel has the best interests of America and her willing dupes at heart for any reason other than the furtherance of the globalist agenda is not merely comatose but brain dead. Israel is a tribal nation run by secular materialists of Jewish ancestry, not so much of Jewish religious belief, as the oppressed Sephardim have learned the hard way, never mind the lessons that have been taught to outsiders. I wish them well within the borders of their artificially created nation state, but I have no wish to tie the fate of me and mine to theirs.
“The U.S. population on July 4, 2014 was: 318,881,992” —— http://www.census.gov/popclock/
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“Stucky, how many Americans has Israel taken hostage? —- Anonymous
Answer: 318,881,992
I’m sure even an imbecile like yourself will understand the meaning. Also, blow me.
Anon,
Two possibilities:
1. You are a paid troll, for AIPAC, a similar org or the US Ministry of Truth.
2. You are a sock puppet.
This is a fun game.
How many Iranians were caught high fiving and celebrating when the 757 hit the world trade center?
Administrator,
At least 500, probably thousands by the time things finally play out in the ME and CONUS.
You realize those you love so much have threatened to destroy both Israel and Washington along with parts of the ME?
Or maybe you’re just on their side?
Anonymous
What the fuck is a neo-con like you hanging around this site? Shouldn’t you be on Fox News site and watching Krathhammer and the rest of the Israel apologists.
Are you really as gullible and simple minded as you appear. Only a fool would believe Iran is a threat to the US. I guess you fit the bill. I don’t give a flying fuck about Israel or any of the fucked up countries in the ME. They can blow themselves to smithereens for all I care.
I’m on the side of liberty and not intervening in the affairs of other countries. You sir are a douchebag empire worshiper with an IQ of about 85.
Anonymous says:
Administrator,
You realize those you love so much have threatened to destroy both Israel and Washington along with parts of the ME?
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That makes two of us. Marg bar Israeli!! (Death to Israel).
The problem is that Muslims don’t believe in keeping their word to non Muslims. Israel will do what it thinks is best for itself.
I’m for pulling the U.S. Completely out of the middle east.
I’m not sure why Obama and Kerry are so hopped up on making a deal,Even if the deal sucks.
Anonymous
Iran nukes = ” ” ………. that’s right, ZERP
Israel nukes = 300 …. (estimates are between 200 – 400 … I split the difference) Visually it looks like this;
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And you think IRAN is the problem?? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
fuck
“ZERP” is Iranian for ZERO.