I will not rest until 99% of you hate copfuks as I do.
Soooo, now they are handcuffing and terrorizing small children with learning disabilities.
They treat us like rats. One day the rats will bite back.
http://sputniknews.com/us/20150803/1025362048.html
I’d like to send his white ass to Ferguson and let the brotha’s have at it!
If you watch the video closely, you might note that the Big Bad Guy is being extremely careful and gentle and talking to the kid about how his behavior isn’t acceptable.
The child was restrained in a novel – and at a first glance – horrible position with the handcuffs between biceps. But using them that way he isn’t going to do any physical harm to the kid.
It looks much worse than it really is and it looks to me like perhaps the child is off his meds and so as not to completely disrupt his class and those around him, such restraint is necessary. His parents may not be taking care of him right and his disruptive behavior may not have been addressed medically – which it should be..
Don’t beat up on the security guard – he is trying to do his job with a minimum amount of fuss and bother to all the other kids that are being affected by this boy who has ADHD and is out of control.
Not politically correct to handcuff a kid but it’s either that or evict him from school all together.
There are two sides to this and only looking at the video you also have to LISTEN as the officer tries his best to get the kid in control..
MA
@Muck: He’s not doing his job. The kid is 8 yrs old. I don’t think it’s legal.
Something has to be done about establishing good classroom discipline. I agree this case is below the COP radar and pay grade. I shows clearly that the public schools are incompetent to deal with misbehavior. Maybe that now dusty 3,000 year old text Prov 13:24 isn’t wrong. Nip it in the bud because once the kid is grown up spoiled and wild, he can really cause Hell.
Hmm..so do we just let kids bitch slap teachers at their on whim ? Heck my 3rd grad teacher tied one pupil to a chair and taped his mouth shut. He did get out of line anymore…he’s parents did say crap about it to my knowledge.
Time out is a wimpy way to deal with kids.
I watched the video….Like Stuck I don’t care for the cops but I think in this instance the cop wasn’t going that much over-board. Besides the meds they give the kids these days turns them into mindless zombie’s !
by Mike Krieger
In the lawsuit, joined by the Children’s Law Center, the ACLU accuses the sheriff’s department and Sumner of violating both federal and state laws that prohibit the forceful restraint of children unless the pupil is presenting an imminent and real threat to their own or someone else’s safety. The suit alleges that by being shackled for so long the child suffered pain and trauma that exacerbated his diagnosed conditions of ADHD and post-traumatic stress disorder.
In the video, shot last November by a staff member of the public school in which the third grader was studying, Sumner can be seen applying the handcuffs around SR’s biceps as the boy’s wrists are too small to restrain. “You can do what we have asked you to do, or you can suffer the consequences,” the police officer tells the child.
– From the Guardian article: Kentucky Sheriff ‘Steadfastly’ Defends Officer who Handcuffed 8-Year-Old
Just in case you’re keeping score at home:
Number of U.S. bank executives in handcuffs: 0
Number of helpless children with mental disabilities in handcuffs: 1
More from the Guardian:
The sheriff’s office in Kenton County, Kentucky, has issued an unapologetic defense of a police officer who was caught on camera handcuffing an eight-year-old boy for 15 minutes in an attempt to restrain the child.
Charles Korzenborn, the sheriff in Covington, Kentucky, a small city bordering Ohio, robustly defended the officer who is seen in the video applying the handcuffs to the boy’s arms, which have been placed behind his back. The boy, named only as SR, is heard crying out in distress.
In a statement issued to the Guardian on Tuesday, Korzenborn responded to a lawsuit from the American Civil Liberties Union by claiming that the police officer, Kevin Sumner, had done absolutely nothing wrong. The sheriff said that his deputy had done “what he is sworn to do and in conformity with all constitutional and law enforcement standards”.
In the lawsuit, joined by the Children’s Law Center, the ACLU accuses the sheriff’s department and Sumner of violating both federal and state laws that prohibit the forceful restraint of children unless the pupil is presenting an imminent and real threat to their own or someone else’s safety. The suit alleges that by being shackled for so long the child suffered pain and trauma that exacerbated his diagnosed conditions of ADHD and post-traumatic stress disorder.
In the video, shot last November by a staff member of the public school in which the third grader was studying, Sumner can be seen applying the handcuffs around SR’s biceps as the boy’s wrists are too small to restrain. “You can do what we have asked you to do, or you can suffer the consequences,” the police officer tells the child.
My wife is a special needs teachers assistant at a pre-school, she has been kicked, punched, bitten scratched and so much more. They get special training in how to deescalate and restrain behavioral kids. They would never allow these kids even in grade school to be cuffed under any circumstances that I have seen. The officer obviously has no training and is completely unqualified to respond under these circumstances. Kids with behavioral problems do not act nor react to the same stimulus and surroundings as other normal kids. This action will do nothing but harm to this kid. If they had done this in Massachusetts the resource officer would certainly be fired and likely be up on charges. The teachers in charge would likely be reprimanded or suspended for letting it happen. This is not like the good old days where you can just smack/scare some sense into a kid. For those of you who think teaching is easy try teaching in one of these classes.
Bob.
Here again is the failure to adequately discriminate between types of human beings, i.e. a school child from a normal family and a child from the third world so traumatized by his/her/its experience that has been diagnosed with PTSD. An elementary school is no ore the place for a child like that than a seat on the Supreme court you see a child run over by a car, do you rush him to a local elementary school because he is 8 years old, or do you take him to an ER?
My youngest son (and his entire class) suffered through two years of having a special needs student in their first and second grade class who frequently erupted into screaming fits, threw tantrums, assaulted other children and had to have not one, but two full time adult handlers assigned to the child (as well as his own van with driver). The cost to “mainstream” the child had to be in the 100K+ area without taking into account the never ending disruption of the other children’s education in order to place a child in an environment he had no business being in. He neither learned nor integrated, was never considered an equal by the other students or teachers, had a small fortune squandered on maintaining the fiction that would be able to fit in and sent a message loud and clear that the needs of the most disruptive individual far surpassed those of the rest of his class.
A one size fits all society winds up wearing Mao jackets and Mo Howard haircuts.
I for one, fucking like it. Sit down and behave, you little bastard. Today, you’re gonna learn how to behave yourself. I believe children need discipline, especially little boys. You can’t reason some little boys into compliance. You have to dominate them. Bet that one is being raised by a single mom.
Stucky , you will never get me to hate cops . I hate the crime and chaos caused by criminals.
I order you to you room.You know what to do next.
I live next door to an officer.He and his family very nice.Also one behind my house as well.All kind.
I don’t see anyone suggesting what should have been done, what they would do instead.
I was expecting a vid with the cop Tazing a 6 year old. The schools should have a separate facility where a disruptive student is remove from class and placed in that ‘special’ room. You can’ teach classroom studies to an unruly child – why keep him in the classroom to continue disrupting the education for all other students.
I wrote about this before. My sister in laws son was misdiagnosed as ADHD and placed in a semi large city public school. He was 12 but the metal capacity of maybe 6. He was really suffering from Aspergers Syndrome, and now that he is properly medicated he is functioning and has a decent job.
Anyway a group of kids were constantly picking on the kid and to his credit he never whined or told on them, he fought back and they beat his ass pretty good.
In my day you got into a fight and when you hit the ground the one standing was the winner, today you hit the ground and you get kicked in the face and the ribs.
Anyway, the next time he was pushed into a corner by the same group he pulled a sharp part of a compass protractor and threatened them with it.
Cops are called and the kid is handcuffed and hauled to the office. Traumatized the kid for years..
“Stucky , you will never get me to hate cops.” ——– bb
That’s why I said 99% …. and not, 100%. You’re a hopeless case suffering from Stockholm Syndrome — that’s where a copfuk beats the shit out of you, and then you beg to give him a blowjob imemdiately.
“I don’t see anyone suggesting what should have been done, what they would do instead.”
—— a pussy who goes by Anonymous
Yeah, because it’s so damn difficult to come up with alternative options. One needs various advanced degrees to address the issue. Never before in the history of mankind did an adult have to deal with a difficult child. The video is a first-of-its-kind. That’s why.
You’re not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?
“I for one, fucking like it.” ———— starfcker
in·sid·i·ous \in-ˈsi-dē-əs\. : adjective, causing harm in a way that is gradual or not easily noticed
Of course little bastards need to behave. Of course children, especially boys, need disciple.
But, you are as bereft of ideas as Anonymous. Seriously, you can think of no other effective options??? You surprise me.
Why stop at handcuffs? How about a low voltage tazing? That will teach the little fucker, eh? Maybe a couple light bitch-slaps upside his head? No, wait … no food and water for the rest of the day! Or, no bathroom breaks, make him piss his pants. Damn, so many great ways to escalate this. I love it. end, sarc.
My lady friend’s three nephews are on Ritalin for hyper activity. One is 14yo and is completely out of control. He is destined for some bad shit someday. The other two (from a different mother) are 6 and 4yo. They are only calm when on Ritalin, but still act up in public.
I literally begged these parents to not get their kids vaccinated. I tried explaining the whole ADHD- Ritlain scam to them and they wouldn’t listen. The trust their doctors. I know Stuck doesn’t like cops, but the fucking doctors are all just little Joseph Mengele’s in clean white coats. These so-called “health professionals” look at patients as ATM machines. They could care fucking less about patients.
The long term damage is done by doctors and ill informed, stupid parents. Then the cops get involved and they act only one way, and that is they are a hammer in search of a nail to hit.
No, not advocating tazing. I had male teachers who pinned me up against a wall by my collar on several occasions. They didn’t take any shit. Save the tazers for the lawyers who defend the bullshit. Men can keep little boys in line. Sometimes it’s semi physical. It almost always involves threats. It’s just the nature of the beast. Look at that little bastard. Growling and kicking. That’s how he gets his way around his mother.
No need to convince me, I’m with you but too many people will always love oppression.
Been conditioned that way for millenia
When I was “in school” there was an unwritten code between teachers and parents; if a child had to be punished at school, the parent would make sure there was additional punishment at home to follow.
Some instances of abuse came to light and the “do gooder wanna be” assclowns who decide things for everyone because they are so smart decided that instead of punishing the criminals who abused and bruised their children with belts to the point of welts and broken bones, they would just make it illegal to punish children at all.
That solved everything.
Oh, wait. It didn’t solve anything did it?
Stucky,
Not the sharpest in the shed?
Maybe not, but a whole lot sharper than you.
Ever think addressing the question instead of just delivering ad hominem insults?
Maybe it’s because you simply don’t know how to deal with a situation like this?
So, tell me, and limit your answer to just the question asked, exactly what would you do (keep in mind that you are a public employee as well, not the brats parent)?
“So, tell me, ……… ” ———– Anonymous
No!
I don’t get into discussions with people too chicken-shit to even come up with a screen name.
Consider yourself blessed that my ad hominem ass took the time to insult you.
There are two courses of action for the security guard. Do what he did and hope the id comes about and gets the word (unlike) or send him home – which may be difficult if both parents are working and there’s no one at home to take him.
Well and truly fucked..
Don’t knock the security guy unless you’ve walked a mile in his shoes….
MA
The mere fact that’s there’s a significant amount of commenters actually DEFENDING the idea of having a uniformed police goon put handcuffs on an overactive child PROVES beyond a shadow of a doubt that American’ts are hopelessly demented immoral bags of degenrate human excrement.
And some -I assume- are good people!
Parents. It all starts at home. Even with special needs kids. I have one.
“Parents. It all starts at home. Even with special needs kids. I have one.”
I AM one!
Stuck says “ever before in the history of mankind did an adult have to deal with a difficult child.”
Throughout history, mankind would have beat his ass good and proper. Parents would have taken him back of the woodshed. Teachers would have beat hell out of him. Other kids likely would have, too. Passersby would have give him a couple licks if he was out of control. Only in the last few decades has that idea changed.
Kids largely need a case of tough love – the parents needed to be firm with them from a young age, and this crap would not develop. I never have met a true ADHD kid – they have all been products of stupid parents. I am sure there are exceptions, but I think stupid parents top the list of why kids misbehave, and anything else is a mile down the list.
@llpoh +1000 I heard that bullshit about my son when he first went to kindergarten because he did not want to sit down and be docile and I was told he was ADHD. The schools answer was to drug him mine was boys will be boys along with him knowing that Dad would not tolerate any bullshit. The boy never took any drugs for ADHD, and Dad only had to lay down the the law once many many years later. The boy is now a fine young adult of the age of 21 whom I am quite proud of.
Fuck all these idiots who don’t want to take responsibility for raising their own child.
Great comment, llpoh
You’re missing the point, Llpoh. The reason for that is likely mine.
I have no problems with parents disciplining their kids … within reason … and “beating the shit” out of your own kid is insane, unless one is using poetic license. Teachers also have a right to discipline … again, within reason.
I have a problem with COPFUKS putting handcuffs on a kid just because the child is being difficult. And I think ANYONE who feels otherwise is a fucking cock-sucking statist pig-loving piece of shit.
I remember my first day of class in first grade in 1963. About 10 AM I got hungry so I went to the cloakroom (that’s what it was called in the old building in those days), retrieved my box lunch and took it to my desk. The teacher didn’t call the cops, but she did make me sit under a desk by her desk. I had no idea that what I did was anything wrong. It was my welcome to public school…
Stuck – I have raised two fine kids to young adulthood. I almost never raised a hand to them. I really cannot remember a single instance, it was so rare. It would have been limited to correcting them from running into the road or some such. But I always required they behave appropriately, they always had direction and supervision and guidance, and they always were expected to perform to the best of their abilities.
I would have been appalled if one behave such that he was handcuffed. I am not saying it is right the kid was handcuffed, but I would be more pissed at myself for my child’s behavior than at the cops for theirs. After all, he is not the parent. He is just a clueless cop, that in reality did not harm the child. However, I, as the parent, would have done the child a tremendous disservice for ever having allowed him to develop such that he behaved in such a manner that someone, anyone, felt it was necessary to restrain him.
The parents of that kid are the ones needing to be crucified. When you hand off parenting responsibility to others, you get what you get. The cop is a cop – not the kids parent. He should not have to deal with the issue, and should not have been put in the situation of having to deal with it.
By the way, Stuck – society is getting far too precious. The kid survived, and what the hell, maybe something good will come from it. It was wrong, but in the scale of things, I will not advocate the cop be burned at the stake. People make mistakes, and it should never have come to the point that a cop got involved.
“One needs various advanced degrees to address the issue (of child misbehavior in school).”
—-Stucky
Just like I need a dozen PhDs to understand that stupid, fucking statement.
Stucky, the word is ‘ohrfeige’ – that kid is about three behind.
I’m with HsF and llpoh on this one. When I was in school in the ’70’s it was pretty much the threat of physical pain that kept us little terrors in line – from the first class to the last. That meant 1-6 of the best on the backside with a cane, to be followed up at home by zero sympathy. This was administered by the principal or some such luminary, never a cop though. Having a cop stationed at a school was not even dreamed of, so from that standpoint you do have a point. And I made it through without any long term issues, quite the opposite in fact: I’m waay to sane and logical according to some.
Any uh, ‘special needs’ kids were identified and uh, never seen again :). No doubt to be educated in a ‘special needs’ school. Win-win.
I taught gang members. I told them to give me the toughest classes. Don’t give them to some wuss reading pop psyche from a book. They respected me after they found out I could be street, but be literate & smart too. I could rap, draw graffitti, etc.
But what did it was when 1 threatened me, I told him I’d fuck him up in front of his friends because I studied martial arts. He said, “But U’ll be fired.” I said it would be worth it because U’d be in the hospital unconscious. He became 1 of my better students, we apologized to each other in front of the class, I told them I did it because they & I deserved respect as individuals, etc. I told them that unlike most teachers, I cared about their success & took their failure personally. They learned to call each other Sir & Ma’am. They had to learn respect & self-discipline 1st.
He went on to man up & take care of his kids, drop the gang nonsense. I am still proud of him.
when I was growing up the autism rate was like 1 in a million , now it is 1 out of 85 . my son got a vaccine with thimersol whicjh is a mercury based stabilizing agent . umm mercury is very much a nuerological toxin and lets see the CDC just destroyed all of their documents pertaining to this . yet its still in vaccines and the problem is getting worse . look at your compact fluorescent lights and READ what the disposel process is . if you break one ,you are supposed to follow hazmat proticals . um due to the mercury in them .the autism rate has not actually gone up ,the brain damaged from mercury poisoning has gone off the fucking charts and they call it autistic spectral disorder . and it is fucking up kids left and right with to many doses at so early an age they don’t have a developed immune system yet (( so many kids with disabilities now simply due to too ,many chemicals they are exsposed to .
“Stucky, the word is ‘ohrfeige’” ———- unePluiebreve
Not one in one hundred people here know the meaning of that German word ….. literally, to slap one’s ears …… and, YEAH!, my own dad gave me plenty of those as I was a “difficult” child more often than not.
For the hundredth, and last, time …. that is NOT the job of a man with guns, handcuffs, and nightsticks!!!
Some of the same people here who hate when copfuks abuse adults, suddenly have no problem when the victim is a child …. because the kid “deserved” it. Mind boggling inconsistency, so say the least.
I’m done commenting on this thread
P.S. SSS — blow me.
The visuals of this incident are offensive..Stuck is right this isn’t a job for the police but it isn’t a job for teachers either. Kids with issues so severe should not be mainstreamed. They just disrupt the classroom and ruin education for the kids who behave.. If we are going to warehouse them, warehouse them. Get them out of the regular classroom after they have been properly diagnosed. Keeping them mainstreamed just wastes teachers time.
Simple solution stop considering them people, because they aren’t
No victim no crime, if they aren’t people they cant be a victim. Someone shoots a cop – not guilty, someone shoots a politician – not guilty, someone shoots a teacher – not guilty, someone shoots an insurance salesman – not guilty…
Simple solution that would solve this problem nice and quick…
1. We have chemically polluted our world – especially America where nothing we eat or drink is pure and natural – we begin vaccinating the fetus while still inside the mothers, and on their first few days of life, then we are *SHOCKED* when the rates of diseases – both mental and physical – are skyrocketing. Oh wait, no we don’t, we ignore it for the most part as the media is complicit in covering up/failing to report the truth about what most of you believe. Why? Count the number of insurance, bank and pharmaceutical ads and ask yourself if you would risk that pay cut. They obviously wont, we obviously put more stock in them than we admit too.
2. We send these children to school on a constant diet of frankenfoods, little natural fat (or natural anything), high carbs – all of which is immediately converted to both sugar and eventually estrogen, especially in light that MOST of these chemical foods/pharmaceuticals/environmental items end up being estrongenic in nature (leading to the feminization of boys many blame on liberals), especially when we deny our basic human physical, and developmental, needs of MOVEMENT. Children, especially little boys, especially chemically destroyed little boys, need MOVEMENT and fat and lots of both.
3. The fact that there is little acknowledgment of the facts that our petro-chemical world and false science has murdered what was once beautiful and human and now demands that we all comply.
Fucking sickening. And what is most people’s solutions? MORE chemicals, more mandated “health” chemicals and MORE punishment once individuals can no longer keep the brain damage in check. Or cancer, at least we have that and if over the age of 18 can opt out of their continued chemical torture.
I’m living in hell and even the “godly” demand more of it.
Thanks Stuck, hugs