“JFK and the Unspeakable” and “The Deep State”: The Assassinations of John and Robert Kennedy, The Role of Allen Dulles

Guest Post by David Swanson

By now there’s not nearly as much disagreement regarding what happened to John and Robert Kennedy as major communications corporations would have you believe. While every researcher and author highlights different details, there isn’t any serious disagreement among, say, Jim Douglass’ JFK and the Unspeakable, Howard Hunt’s deathbed confession, and David Talbot’s new The Devil’s Chessboard.

Jon Schwarz says The Devil’s Chessboard confirms that “your darkest suspicions about how the world operates are likely an underestimate. Yes, there is an amorphous group of unelected corporate lawyers, bankers, and intelligence and military officials who form an American ‘deep state,’ setting real limits on the rare politicians who ever try to get out of line.”

For those of us who were already convinced of that up to our eyeballs, Talbot’s book is still one of the best I’ve seen on the Dulles brothers and one of the best I’ve seen on the assassination of John F. Kennedy. Where it differs from Douglass’ book, I think, is not so much in the evidence it relates or the conclusions it draws, but in providing an additional motivation for the crime.

JFK and the Unspeakable depicts Kennedy as getting in the way of the violence that Allen Dulles and gang wished to engage in abroad. He wouldn’t fight Cuba or the Soviet Union or Vietnam or East Germany or independence movements in Africa. He wanted disarmament and peace. He was talking cooperatively with Khrushchev, as Eisenhower had tried prior to the U2-shootdown sabotage. The CIA was overthrowing governments in Iran, Guatemala, the Congo, Vietnam, and around the world. Kennedy was getting in the way.

The Devil’s Chessboard depicts Kennedy, in addition, as himself being the sort of leader the CIA was in the habit of overthrowing in those foreign capitals. Kennedy had made enemies of bankers and industrialists. He was working to shrink oil profits by closing tax loopholes, including the “oil depletion allowance.” He was permitting the political left in Italy to participate in power, outraging the extreme right in Italy, the U.S., and the CIA. He aggressively went after steel corporations and prevented their price hikes. This was the sort of behavior that could get you overthrown if you lived in one of those countries with a U.S. embassy in it.

Yes, Kennedy wanted to eliminate or drastically weaken and rename the CIA. Yes he threw Dulles and some of his gang out the door. Yes he refused to launch World War III over Cuba or Berlin or anything else. Yes he had the generals and warmongers against him, but he also had Wall Street against him.

Of course “politicians who ever try to get out of line” are now, as then, but more effectively now, handled first by the media. If the media can stop them or some other maneuver can stop them (character assassination, blackmail, distraction, removal from power) then violence isn’t required.

The fact that Kennedy resembled a coup target, not just a protector of other targets, would be bad news for someone like Senator Bernie Sanders if he ever got past the media, the “super delegates,” and the sell-out organizations to seriously threaten to take the White House. A candidate who accepts the war machine to a great extent and resembles Kennedy not at all on questions of peace, but who takes on Wall Street with the passion it deserves, could place himself as much in the cross-hairs of the deep state as a Jeremy Corbyn who takes on both capital and killing.

Accounts of the escapades of Allen Dulles, and the dozen or more partners in crime whose names crop up beside his decade after decade, illustrate the power of a permanent plutocracy, but also the power of particular individuals to shape it. What if Allen Dulles and Winston Churchill and others like them hadn’t worked to start the Cold War even before World War II was over? What if Dulles hadn’t collaborated with Nazis and the U.S. military hadn’t recruited and imported so many of them into its ranks? What if Dulles hadn’t worked to hide information about the holocaust while it was underway? What if Dulles hadn’t betrayed Roosevelt and Russia to make a separate U.S. peace with Germany in Italy?  What if Dulles hadn’t begun sabotaging democracy in Europe immediately and empowering former Nazis in Germany? What if Dulles hadn’t turned the CIA into a secret lawless army and death squad? What if Dulles hadn’t worked to end Iran’s democracy, or Guatemala’s? What if Dulles’ CIA hadn’t developed torture, rendition, human experimentation, and murder as routine policies? What if Eisenhower had been permitted to talk with Khrushchev? What if Dulles hadn’t tried to overthrow the President of France? What if Dulles had been “checked” or “balanced” ever so slightly by the media or Congress or the courts along the way?

These are tougher questions than “What if there had been no Lee Harvey Oswald?” The answer to that is, “There would have been another guy very similar to serve the same purpose, just as there had been in the earlier attempt on JFK in Chicago. But “What if there had been no Allen Dulles?” looms large enough to suggest the possible answer that we would all be better off, less militarized, less secretive, less xenophobic. And that suggests that the deep state is not uniform and not unstoppable. Talbot’s powerful history is a contribution to the effort to stop it.

I hope Talbot speaks about his book in Virginia, after which he might stop saying that Williamsburg and the CIA’s “farm” are in “Northern Virginia.” Hasn’t Northern Virginia got enough to be ashamed of without that?

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nmb
nmb
December 9, 2015 1:16 pm

The CIA criminal corp.

“In the US Government, John Foster Dulles, who was the Secretary of State under president Eisenhower; his brother Allen Dulles, who was the head of the CIA – had both been law partners in the main law firm that represented United Fruit Company. Melvin Goodman, former CIA division chief says that ‘The feeling was we could very easily overthrow this progressive government and make it a lot easier for the United Fruit Company and other American businesses to operate in Central America.'”

http://bit.ly/1OOWTpb

Southern Sage
Southern Sage
December 9, 2015 1:58 pm

Pardon me, but this whole article is bullshit. The CIA didn´t kill Kennedy. The “plutocrats” did not kill Kennedy. No rogue “Deep State” killed Kennedy. Kennedy was a patriotic American and a realist who was determined to confront the Communist bloc without sparking WW III, but that does not make him into the sort of hand-wringing pussy described by Swanson. in the 1950´s, 60´s, 70´s and 80´s we faced a determined, ruthless enemy in the Soviet empire. The CIA did not overthrow “democracy” in Guatemala. The CIA tossed out a Communist stooge government, one of whose officials was the charming Che Guevara. Lee Harvey Oswald, a confused self-proclaimed Communist, killed Kennedy. If there was any conspiracy, it was provided by Fidel Castro and the Soviets. There is a very real chance they had guilty prior knowledge of Oswald´s intentions and may have promised him an escape route. If there was a second gunman, he was provided by some entity controlled by them. It is also possible that LBJ was involved in the murder, though he would not have known the real string pullers.

Dutchman
Dutchman
December 9, 2015 2:12 pm

The article is bullshit. Here’s the real truth……………….

There are so many conspiracy theories that I believe every man, woman, child, had some part in JFK’s death.

Westcoaster
Westcoaster
December 9, 2015 3:19 pm

@Sou Sage and Dutchman….before you spew about JFK, how and who killed him, why don’t you buy the fucking book and read it. Your might LEARN something. And for the record our CIA has overthrown and destabilized ELECTED governments around the world who wouldn’t tow the line for American foreign policy. WTF do you think we’re doing in Syria right now?

Dutchman
Dutchman
December 9, 2015 3:23 pm

@Westcoaster: ” why don’t you buy the fucking book and read it”

There are so many books and theories who wants to waste their time reading that shit? Why are they right and the others wrong?

Kennedy’s been dead for over 50 years. Time to move on

Rise Up
Rise Up
December 9, 2015 3:37 pm

Jim Marrs wrote the bestseller, “Crossfire”, which was the basis of Roger Stone’s movie “JFK”.

destroyerofsolesnikesales
destroyerofsolesnikesales
December 9, 2015 3:51 pm

Bullet casing with teeth marks, and the confession that go with that exonerate oswald. The habitual lying and warmongering predates the dulles brothers by a couple hundred years to say the least.

kokoda
kokoda
December 9, 2015 4:20 pm

Rise Up…First time I heard of Roger Stone. Oliver Stone was the director..

daddysteve
daddysteve
December 9, 2015 5:21 pm

A United States President was assassinated in a possible shadow government coup. Yeah , time to move on.

Westcoaster
Westcoaster
December 9, 2015 6:26 pm

I borrowed a copy of “Crossfire” from my local library, and after reading it found and bought a copy on Amazon. It’s a great reference book just as is Crossing the Rubicon by Mike Ruppert on 9/11 and I learned much from both.

And no, Dutchman, you’re wrong. I can’t see anyone who lived through that period can just “move on”. Remember, they lied to us about JFK and the story we’re supposed to buy is as illogical and impossible as is the official story on 9/11. Unless we get to the truth we’re lost as a country. With what we really know now about how JFK was taken out, I can’t believe “Dulles airport” hasn’t been renamed.

Right now I’m reading “9/11 Contradictions” by David Ray Griffin. Great book and yes there are too many contradictions in the official story.

overthecliff
overthecliff
December 9, 2015 7:25 pm

John,Bobby and MLK all believed their press and got to big for their britches. Therefore they were made into saints. Win win for the deep state. It doesn’t matter if the Dulles brothers were involved.

I lived through that time and have moved on. Good riddence to those three. They were just victims of intra deep state disagreement. Kinda like mohammedans killing mohammedans.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
December 10, 2015 12:48 pm

(Serious Question)

Which major player in the JFK assassination has these people in their family tree?

GEORGE WASHINGTON 1st Pres.
JAMES MADISON 4th Pres.
WILLIAM HENRY HARRISON 9th Pres.
THEODORE ROOSEVELT 26TH Pres.
ELEANORE ROOSEVELT
KING HENRY VIII
ANNE BOLEYN
MAJ. GEN. J.E.B. STUART
GEN. ROBERT E. LEE

***The above are closest cousins-there are an additional 75 famous presidents, writers, actors, generals etc. in family tree.

Very distant relation to: QUEEN OF ENGLAND
PRINCE WILLIAM
PRINCE GEORGE

The family tree of this person is mind boggling with the amount of famous historical persons.

What is your guess? And no we are not ALL related to these people, just a very select few who get the best parts in the play.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
December 10, 2015 12:59 pm

Good try but no. Take another shot Admin it’s free.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
December 10, 2015 1:06 pm

Good try, no cigar.

Tim
Tim
December 10, 2015 1:07 pm

I was going to guess LBJ. Dang!

A major player…..hmmmmmm……..

Jack Ruby? Lee Harvey Oswald?

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
December 10, 2015 1:18 pm

Allen Dulles- 5th Director of the CIA

Dulles has a list of notables in his family tree almost as long . He even has two Mayflower passengers in his tree which puts you at the top of the list in central casting.

Did you ever wonder why Mayflower lineage is so important?

King Edward I was Dulles’s great,great,great,great,great,great…..grandfather.

He even shares relations to the above mentioned.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
December 10, 2015 1:20 pm

Allen Dulles is even related to Benedict Arnold which is very fitting.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
December 10, 2015 1:26 pm

TIM WINS THE PRIZE……BUT WHICH NAME?

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
December 10, 2015 1:34 pm

I think I confused you with the info on Dulles.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
December 10, 2015 1:35 pm

Admin and Tim- The answer is Lee Harvey Oswald.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
December 10, 2015 1:37 pm

I was posting tidbits about Dulles while you guys were thinking about the original question.[

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
December 10, 2015 1:50 pm

Well, I really messed that up.

Interesting that The alleged killer of JFK and Dulles are from such notable bloodlines and actually share relation in their tree, what are the odds?

Tim
Tim
December 10, 2015 2:58 pm

@ Bea:

Do you think there’s a larger, over-arching theme to that little tidbit of trivia, or is it just an interesting coincidence?

Wasn’t there a child, a sixth-grader, maybe, who proved that all of the presidents of the USA have a common bloodline? Is this the same piece of that puzzle?

Or maybe, sometimes are exactly what they appear to be?

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
December 10, 2015 3:19 pm

Tim- I worked on bloodlines for years, noticing that most (important ) people are often from certain bloodlines. While working on the Bush’s and Obama were related to English royals among other projects, I eventually came across the site Famouskin.com which sorted and listed trees of the famous and historical. Hitlery Clinton is bloodline and I have never found evidence that Trump is of a lineage that puts him in the running.

Go to that site and read LHO’s tree and ask your self this question, was he just another schmuck off the street who was caught up in this and was made the patsy. Check out Allen Dulles while you are there. Please don’t come back and say maybe we are all related, I can assure you we are not.

Most of the most notable actors, politicians, famous outlaws, writers, industrialists, banksters, spies etc are from the same few bloodlines. How is that and what are the odds?

BEA LEVER
BEA LEVER
December 12, 2015 12:52 pm

(Question #2)

Which of the main players in the Kennedy assassination had the following people in their family tree?

Allen Dulles
John Foster Dulles
Marilyn Monroe
Orson Welles
Walt Disney
Humphrey Bogart