Question of the Day, Sep 22

Should companies using GMO’s be forced to disclose that on the labels? If not, why list ingredients at all?



Author: Back in PA Mike

Crotchety middle aged man with a hot younger wife dead set on saving this Country.

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rhs jr
rhs jr
September 22, 2016 9:25 am

Aren’t we just asking that ingredients prohibited in Europe and Asia that are known to cause serious harm to your health be identified on our labels? Heck, the label should be like a pharmaceutical product: GMO corn contains antigens and Atrazine which cause sterility in mammals, Roundup causes cancer. and etc.

kokoda - Les Deplorables
kokoda - Les Deplorables
September 22, 2016 9:38 am

Transparency vs Evil (like the Hildebeast, Obama, Boehner, McConnell, Pelosi, so many more).

Note: Transparency shows that the best interests are for the people, not the Mega-Corps, financial donors, lobbyists.

Dutchman
Dutchman
September 22, 2016 9:41 am

GMO – another tinfoil hat group.

The original ear of corn was 2″ long, look where it is today.

Smoke Jensen
Smoke Jensen
  Dutchman
September 22, 2016 9:46 am

Dutch, I down voted ya. What does my metallic hat have to do with honest labeling? IF GMO was the cats ass, why wouldn’t they want to promote it freely so people could make an informed decision?

Dutchman
Dutchman
  Smoke Jensen
September 22, 2016 10:02 am

People bitch about insecticides, herbicides, then they bitch about the solution.

You know that GMO corn pollen is going to travel to other farmer’s fields.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
  Dutchman
September 22, 2016 11:09 am

Dutchman- Is there any topic that you actually understand before you give an opinion? Do you understand that your comment was extremely dumb? Doubt it.

Dutchman
Dutchman
  Bea Lever
September 22, 2016 11:37 am

@Bea: 90% of the corn grown in the USA is GMO. They have genetically engineered rice to be more nutritious.

Please explain to me what I don’t understand.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  Dutchman
September 22, 2016 9:49 am

Don’t confuse selective breeding with modern GMO’s. The two things are pretty different in comparison. We have been growing foods selectively for thousands of years in order to improve various traits of the plant. A stalk of wheat today is shorter because a long shaft is a waste of energy and serves no useful purpose. This is a far cry from growing corn that has an insecticide of some sort from another organism genetically spliced into its make up.

Teri
Teri
  Francis Marion
September 22, 2016 12:30 pm

+1,000,000!

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
September 22, 2016 9:41 am

Would they label all nectarines?

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
September 22, 2016 9:41 am

Easy way to avoid even having to deal with this issue is to stop eating foods from these companies. We generally don’t and if we do I sort of expect that I am eating garbage. Eat as much whole food sourced locally as you can and you’ll have fewer concerns about what goes into your body. Better yet – grow your own food.

White Fang
White Fang
September 22, 2016 10:14 am

I am in agreement with FM. Grow your own if you have a yard with dirt and sunlight. It is work and a challenge, but there is nothing better than picking something you nurtured and grew yourself. Buy local from people who are not using chemicals. One of my local growers label their produce “Non-certified organic”, meaning they have not gone through the lengthy hoop-jumping process, but it is still organic. “USDA Organic” labeling actually allows a small amount of non-organic content. Buy organic in the store when you cannot do the above. My family doctor is a healthy vegetarian and she recommends eating lots of veggies with a mix of colors. In any case if a product is not labeled “non-GMO” you can assume that it does contain something GMO, usually a derivative of corn. ‘Muricans now consume more corn per capita than the Aztecs, most of it GMO crap.

susanna
susanna
September 22, 2016 10:26 am

We have a right to know what is in our food packages!
Then again, we know “packages” usually do not contain
much in the way of nutrition. What I want to avoid is
food grown and packed up in China. That eliminates
farmed seafood. I am sad to say goodbye to fishes.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
September 22, 2016 10:28 am

Go ahead and label it GMO. The people willing to spend $3 for an ear of “non GMO” corn (as if it could be provable) subject themselves to the stress of how they can afford their heirloom vegetables and their $19/ lb grass fed beef.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  Iska Waran
September 22, 2016 10:42 am

Lol. $3 an ear? Wow.

We are in the corn belt of BC here. People have been growing corn for silage and human consumption in this area for 100 years or more. None of it is GMO – they have been growing the same strains here forever. You can pick it up roadside all over the place throughout the summer/early fall for between $5.00 and $9.00 per dozen. Most places will make it a bakers dozen at those prices. Same with the fruit. There are fruit trees everywhere here and a lot of it in folk’s yards just drops to the ground and rots. Some people put it in bags roadside with a cash box on a little table. A large grocery bag of “no spray” (obviously) apples for five bucks and so on. Our neighbours and relatives deliver plums, kale, garlic, squash, zucchini etc etc etc all season to us for free because they can’t consume or sell it all. My deep freezer is half filled with fruit – most of it was free – that no one could use. We sort of chuckle at the organic labels in places like Vancouver. It’s sort of a joke locally as you can walk down a local trail, pick a handful of blackberries or salmon berries or wild cherries and munch as you go. In August I can pick a gallon of black berries behind my house in about 60 minutes (Now that’s organic!) You’d pay $4.00 for a cup of them in the city. Organic is a city euphemism for ‘getting fleeced’.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Francis Marion
September 22, 2016 11:17 am

I’ll tell my wife to drive up to British Columbia. I get that one can get local food. My intended point was the same as yours about getting fleeced.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
  Francis Marion
September 22, 2016 11:17 am

For anyone interested, Trader Joes sells Non-GMO fresh corn for .49 cents per ear all summer. I had given up corn of any kind a long time ago and only added it back into my diet recently when I found that Non-Gmo grits and fresh corn were actually still out in the marketplace.

Trapped in Portlandia
Trapped in Portlandia
September 22, 2016 11:05 am

While GMO labeling sounds like a good idea, who will enforce it? The government, that is who. Since the government is in bed with Monsanto and the other frankenfood corporations, do we trust the government to do honest labeling? I don’t. They would likely create labeling standards that q43 so expensive that small farmers, the people who grow real food, could not meet the requirements.

You are better off buying food labeled “non-GMO.” You are even better off buying food directly from farmers at farmers markets or at on the farms. However, as some other folks noted, the very best thing you can do it grow your own.

Stucky
Stucky
September 22, 2016 11:53 am

“Organic is a city euphemism for ‘getting fleeced’.” —- Francis Marion

That’s quite funny …. because it’s very true. I’ll never forget the first time I walked through the new Whole Foods supermarket in town. Walked through the door which was in the fruit section. There, right in front of my face, was a huge display of “organic” lemons ….. for one buck EACH!! . What a crock of shit. I was so pissed I almost walked out the door. But, I really needed/wanted some coarsely ground corn to make polenta.

OF COURSE that shit should be labeled!! Isn’t it a basic “right” to be informed about what we put in our bodies?? . I think so!

That being said, what good would it really do? I’m talking about relying on a shitfuk, corrupt, lying government for enforcement. Also, I’m talking about the same lying POS corporations growing/making GMO foods …. companies who ONLY care about profits, NOT your health … that they will tell the truth about their machinations. I’m afraid their “labeling” will be as bad and misleading — or, worse — than the bullshit labeling of food being “organic” …. which is basically meaningless, and can mean anything the shitfuk manufacturer wants it to mean.

Growing your own food clearly makes the most sense …. assuming you can find non-GMO seeds. But, it is clearly impracticable/impossible for us city folk — on a 75′ x 100′ property, most of it covered by a house and deck, and the remainder of the available land covered in perpetual shade over pretty shitty soil. Hell, our soil is so poor even crabgrass says “fuckit”.

harry p.
harry p.
  Stucky
September 22, 2016 1:29 pm

i was going to write my response but read stucky’s and figured it was a waste to essentially cntrl+C & cntrl+P what he wrote…
speaking of flash, haven’t heard from him in a while

The Absolutely Deplorable Fiatman60
The Absolutely Deplorable Fiatman60
September 22, 2016 11:58 am

The biggest problem in British Columbia is in the winter time it’s hard to get local fresh veggies from anyone, that hasn’t been grown in and shipped from China.
The local stores get the produce from a central warehouse that gets it from China, because they literally dump it on the market for next to nothing thereby forcing the local farmers not to bother to produce it.
Add in the GMO’s and it becomes a minefield for the consumer to find good organic produce at a reasonable price.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  The Absolutely Deplorable Fiatman60
September 22, 2016 8:24 pm

Yep. Fresh food is great here about April/May through September then it starts to get skinny. Some stuff like fall kale and what not will keep growing but the variety thins out and the stuff from Chinafornia starts to look pretty good. The Mrs. freezes a lot from the fresh picking season which she makes into smoothies etc though the year. In fact she did so much this year I just had to rip it all apart to try and get my son’s deer in with it. I either need to start canning some stuff or buy another freezer.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
September 22, 2016 12:22 pm

Another thing to watch is the fact that all dairy now has aspartame added, milk, whipping cream, sour cream, go down the list and it IS NOT LISTED ON THE PACKAGING as an ingredient. This was done with the blessing of the FDA who made the ruling it does not have to be listed. What’s next? The FDA could give the OK to add antifreeze or some other shit for your consumption and you would not know it.

annon
annon
  Bea Lever
September 22, 2016 5:25 pm

Antifreeze is on the label for popcycles.

Anonymous
Anonymous
September 22, 2016 1:19 pm

I’ve made two posts on this article’s comments.

One never showed up (but trying to re post it thinking I had done something wrong it said it was a duplicate post) and the other showed up but has disappeared.

FWIW, both were mostly in support of GMO labeling or related to what GMO’s are.

Wonder why?

A glitch or somebody piddling with something? Not happening on my other posts.

This post is just to see if it continues.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
September 22, 2016 4:54 pm

Do you think they would be honest with their labeling? Begging an organization you don’t trust to force food manufacturers to label their poison doesn’t make it less poisonous.

Take matters into your own hands. Limit the amount of their poison you consume. Buy locally produced, fresh, raw foods. You’ll get more bang for your buck in terms of quality and quantity plus your money stays local.

Spinolator
Spinolator
September 22, 2016 5:30 pm

Propaganda 101, confuse the shit out of people bc most of them can’t tell the difference anyways. Sooo, these huge companies take a natural product that has been grown for thousands of years and modify it (to end world hunger and shit cause’ they all want to do that, see), and say that it’s “substantially equivalent”. Then use that legal mumbo jumbo to patent it (now supreme court judge Clarence Thomas, was a big shot lawyer for Monsatan then), so that no extensive research is needed (It’s natural, you see?). Then, since the introduced trait is dominant, it eradicates all other native species allowing you to sue the shit out of farmers when it begins to show up in their fields for patent infringement (it’s hard to keep the wind out of the fields, you know, but the courts say da corporations are correct, of course). Thereby, you force them to buy their “terminator” seeds from you along with the pesticide they’re resistant to, etc. Otherwise, they are out of business (like many farmers have found out). Or you can just commit suicide like all those Indian cotton farmers (it pays off debts quickly).

Sooo….Sure. Why would I have any reservations about that shit. If I had a company that company would look like Monsatan, bc in the end, what difference does it make?

White Fang
White Fang
September 22, 2016 8:58 pm

Something I learned on the Orlov site is that ordinary Russians survived the collapse of the USSR by tending gardens that were a short bus ride from home, wherever they lived. As a kid in CT we had a man who walked a couple of miles up the hill from the bus stop to a garden plot which he tended, then walked on a mile to catch another bus home. That was after his regular 8 hour factory job. If nothing else, try growing plants in pots and sticking them in the sun. Learn how to grow plants if you don’t already know.

yahsure
yahsure
September 23, 2016 2:32 pm

If there was nothing wrong with the food,Why resist giving the information on the packaging about GMO and place of origin. I looked at Salmon that was cheap the other day,From China(fresh fish?)