While not surprised at the left wing lunatics rioting, I am dismayed. They’re not even going to give Trump a chance. Not even 100 days. Not even 30 days. Hell, not even one day. Just like Bea Lever. So, look into your Crystal Ball;
Q1: At the end of Trump’s first term, will America be less divided, more divided than ever, or about the same?
Q2: Is some kind of Civil War (race, left vs right, poor vs rich, or whatever) inevitable and, if so, will it start before Trump’s first term is over?
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Q1: More divided than ever before. Reconciliation is impossible.
Q2: Trump is inheriting a $20 Trillion dollar debt, and I don’t believe he can stop the Killer Avalanche coming out way. The civil war starts near the end of his Presidency.
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We’ve already been in a sort of “cold civil war” for 1-2 years now. Soros is behind much of it. I think the hot CW2 is likely to start in summer 2017, a mix of continued rioting, total deadlock in DC, and economic issues.
Harry Reid’s letter today makes it clear that he will be the biggest asshole he can be against Trump and the RINO party.
I’m wondering if the secession movements for California or the west coast generally could actually gain some steam.
“Just like Bea Lever”…………Who started harping in a QOTD two hours after he found out Trump had won? Wasn’t me. (clue- Stucky)
I WAS giving him (Trump) every chance. It was not me that brought up Jaime Dimon, of all of the possibilities…………why Dimon?
Bea, we are just useful idiots for Stucky to point the finger at. I know because I do the same to him. In truth, I love the little weasel.
I said Trump is no different because he leads off using the tactics of former presidents. In the case of the missing trillions, he intends to cut taxes and expand the debt by another 12 trill in the next 10 years. Very Reaganesque.
I read somewhere that the mistake Earthcucks make in identifying alien lifeforms is they keep expecting them to look somewhat like terrestrial cucks. Our minds are limited by our experience.
In the same fashion, Trump can’t do anything but what has been done before, he is limited by his time (us) and experience (history). Put their actions in a circle; the circle describes Trump’s boundaries, Trump can only be as different as the presidents before him.
Trump has an opportunity to shift our country away from Civil War, and even World War. Very rarely do the whims of fate grace someone with such power.
Its a long shot, but avoiding those conflicts would shift us away from the 4T cycle. Perhaps freeing us of all of this stupidity.
….who am I kidding, good things happen on accident, bad shit happens on purpose.
Put me down for Civil War, brewing over the next 18 months. Probably across the Urban/Rural divide.
Optimist. I say Fed raises rates in December, crushes anything left of the eCONomy, food riots, martial law by inauguration day. But maybe I’m too optimistic.
Civil war isn’t inevitable as long as the left at least respects the legal structure of the country and abides by it instead of resorting to violence to get their way after they lost the election and their controlling power (as they seem to already be starting to engage in).
As far as being divided, no we are irreconcilably divided and nothing but a total halt on immigration and a return to Constitutional standards as the basis of all basic American thinking will change that. It will take at least three generations for that to happen, to integrate everyone under common values and respect for the Constitution and what it stands for again as a Unified nation again.
The debt is going to cause so much pain and hardship as it comes due that we will be seeing a good deal of civil strife over it, the FSA isn’t going to be willing to let go of their free ride easily or even peacefully.
But it is inevitable that it will happen, no matter who is or is not in power as it does.
The debt is NOT $20 trillion, it is hundreds and hundreds of trillions with the BULK of it going to federal pensions. The federal pension system DWARFS social security and welfare, but less than 1 in 10,000 realizes it (maff is hard!). Oh, we WILL cut off the poorest and sickest first (and a society can be judged by how it treats the elderly, children, sick, disabled and down on their luck, we FAIL), but the true pain isn’t going away until we FACE THE TRUTH.
No candidate, including Mr. Trump, acknowledges this. No American is willing to accept that the government pension can has no more room for kicking. This is, soon, going to be the SINGLE biggest issue facing most of us in the coming years. How to maintain the semblance of the first world when 75% of your money is going to pay for yesterday’s promises? In the bigger Michigan cities, and most school districts, it is too late. They already take more than 50% of the tax revenue to pay for yesterday’s purchases and promises. Simple math shows that although it took 50 years to get here, getting from 50% to 100% won’t take near as long. Real estate being valued at levels the ACTUAL working class can afford would do it.
In four years we will be LUCKY to still be a country. As it is we are being held together by Chinese-manufactured duct tape, installed by illegals.
Unless, until, the Cabal/Illuminati/Rockefellers/Rothschilds are outed, stripped of wealth and made to atone, we are just rearranging chairs on the deck.
For today, we smile. Tomorrow the real work begins.
A good point and one that seems to miss discussion.
How large is the Federal pension system with everything included and how is it funded?
I’m not even sure were to look for comprehensive data without trying to compile stuff from multiple places and hope I’ve found them all.
We should “let” California secede. Hahhahahaha. By this I mean that the entire decent part of the USA, and some currently indecent but fixable parts (most of California ex-LA, for example) should itself “secede” from the “USA”, creating a “new” nation with about 99% of the landmass of the USA but maybe 75% of the people, leaving behind LA, NYC, Washington DC, and selected other places we don’t want or need. Old-USA gets to keep all the debt, enjoy paying that off boys – you deserve it because you and the Banksters created it.
Good point, TE. I didn’t include unfunded liabilities but, should have.
This was the real choice in the election: World War III or Civil War 2.0. That’s it. That is all that was really accomplished. Fourth Turnings end in war, period.
So obviously, more divided. I have plenty of friends who bought the whole “Trump is an absolute Monster” theme the media has been screaming for over a year now. They will be so easy to fool when SHTF. They will blame Trump and never feel the need to dig any deeper. It’s a shame.
Bah. The choice was “risk of CW2” vs. “guarantee of WW3 and CW2, both!”
I’m not much surprised by the leftists’ response to losing, but I am disappointed.
Oh, I’m also fucking tired of hearing that Killary won the popular vote. The narrow margin we see being reported includes huge amounts of illegal and phony voting. If you limit the vote to legitimate votes from still-living citizens eligible to vote, Trump would have the majority of popular votes.
DRUD, excellent observation. While 4T predicts war, I never considered the WW3 vs CW2 possibility coming out of this election. Sounds about right though. However, it could be a short CW2 since the liberals don’t like guns.
The divisions will likely be about the same. The veil has just been pulled off more so than before. It’s basically mega cities vs. small cities, towns, and rural countryside to a very large degree. Looking at the map large regions of rural CA still voted for trump, even though they knew no way the state went for trump. Same thing in OR as well and even some parts of Washington state. Basically the welfare state align with the snobby rich in the big cities to a large degree vs. everyone else.
There is a chance various hispanic groups move toward Trump if the jobs tick upward and they start feeling the receiving end of BLM riots, terrorism and the like. Many move here to avoid the gangs, criminals and the like and aren’t going to enjoy having to be on the front lines in many of these cities as riots and gangs kill and destroy areas around them.
The wheels may full fall off next decade anyway, it’s hard for people to riot and vote for democrats if they are worried about how to eat. Some serious issues will be hitting next decade, soil degredation, water depletion and the rest plus rise in population continue to make food stability a big problem. CA has a high chance of finally getting hit with a mega quake/s which could cause immediate food issues just with highway destruction–given CA is the true breadbasket of the US, yet it has unsolvable water issues. You know its bad when serious thought is given to desalinating the Ocean for crops.
The snowflakes will get over it. When it get’s cold, that will be the end of their tantrums. The best way to disperse these protesters would be for the cops to hand out job applications.
There will be no Civil War. The snowflakes have no balls, and the Neegrows don’t want to work, let alone wage war.
At the end of four years…. well we have to see what Trump gets done. If his actions can change the focus of the country to getting things done / fixed, instead of what gender you want to be, I think the country will be more unified.
Dutch, you’re the only sanity on this thread. If there was ever a time to chill, and stop the hysteria, it’s now. We won. Trump can’t do anything until January. Breath into a paper bag. Take a xanex. Whatever. Ain’t gonna be no collapse. Ain’t gonna be no race war. Promises made that can’t be kept, won’t be kept. They’ll have to be worked out. Lots of people, to paraphrase hardscrabble, are going to have to get aquainted with the business end of a frying pan or a hammer. And they will. That’s a great thing. Remember, niggaz don’t gang bang when they can make 40 bucks an hour building chevrolets.
I don’t have a clue where we will be in four years.
Interesting tidbit: I have read two articles today (in non-liberal sites) that are saying that there are 10 MILLION DEM votes that have vaporized and they are saying the Russians hacked the vote to put in Trump. If the special snowflake crowd gets wind of that kind of allegation, we could have some serious repercussions in a very short time. I don’t know if any of it is true but that is the stuff shitstorms are made of.
Oh c’mon, someone would have noticed already if TEN MILLION votes had mysteriously disappeared. And it would be the only story on all MSM with 24/7 updates.
Sounds like a Soros plant to me, or maybe even just some random basement dweller.
These dumbshits who say the Russians wanted Trump to win (and they did by 70+%) should ask themselves why. Maybe because they didn’t want to have a nuclear war under Psycho Hillary. They act as though Putin needed Trump in office so that Russia would have free hand to invade the Baltic States. Why on Earth would Putin invade the Baltics? Because he needs more LAND? Because he wants a port right next to the port he already has in Kaliningrad?
The meme which you will see developed is that the Electoral College is “obsolete” and “unfair” because it has thwarted the “majority vote of the people.”
Problem: the whole idea of the Electoral College is to temper the “will of the people” which the Founding Fathers quite rightly did not entirely trust. They were quite aware of Greek and Roman History and knew that democracy could go awry, especially democracies under stress.
Second Problem: the vote is so close that fraud – admitted to and even applauded in the WikiLeaks e-mails by Democrat operatives – is the reason why (right now at least) the count shows Shrillary with a microscopic lead. One pollster (I cannot find the reference right now) said that he factored in 8% fraud on the Dem side, i.e. Trump would win by 2% even with fraud perpetrated by Dems, but that his true margin would be around 10%.
The election process is a ‘contest’. There are rules, the candidates know the rules, and agree to them when they enter the contest.
This bullshit about the Electoral College is just sour grapes from the left.
Stucky,
The violence will eventually subside as the Soros money runs out. Everything will happen in a sort of natural order/time. But the USA may not survive in tact. California may secede as a result of this and my advice to Americans is to let them go. Culturally speaking the state is no longer “American” in the true sense of the word. It is marxist. Letting it go (and forcing it to take its portion of the debt with it) will strengthen the rest of the country and reduce the strangle hold the left has on the rest of the nation.
Edit: Regarding the debt. If JC Collins is correct then the debt will be restructured somehow under the new/incoming international monetary system but not without substantial pain. He speaks to that on POM far better than I can. If this happens then remember I have been warning you guys for some time to expect to find out what it is like to live north of the border where the value of your currency can fluctuate 10 to 30 percent over a short period of time. If Trump is to return manufacturing to the US and boost exports this means that the value of your dollar will decline in tandem.
California succeeds and loses all that Federal Military money, their Corporations become foreign corporations if they don’t move to the rest of the United States and all the federally financing of welfare, social programs and such goes away, and they end up having to develop their own military and defense against foreign attack and you will see a very, very poor and dysfunctional nation replacing a prosperous State as a result.
In a way I hope they do it, just to show them who and what they really are without the rest of us.
They would become Mexico north. In short order.
Absurd! Last thing Mexico wants is US states to become incorporated in tne homeland. This would bring the surplus population that has an escape valve back home and burden it with the large lay about class and FSA soldiers.
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FM- What makes you think Soro’s money will run out? Last I looked Rothschild’s have somewhere in the neighborhood of 70 TRILLION but I also recently read a MUCH higher figure. Soros is a frontman for the Rothschilds, his money IS their money………..ain’t gonna happen.
Bea,
What makes you think he wants to keep sending it?
Francis- Rothschild banks print money out of thin air, they are swimming in the stuff. Soros will spend the fiat as long as he is instructed to do so.
I’ll believe California will secede when they have enough water to sustain themselves. Guess what, without the Colorado River which supplies 55-65% of Southern CA water, it’s not going to happen. Unless they can accept SoCal returning to the desert it once was.
More divided at the end of 4 years. The country will not only be more polarized but possibly fractured.
Civil War maybe . Could bust up into 3 or 4 countries. If it happens there will be mass nigger starvation and damn little appetite for protests.
Hope to hell I am wrong.
The PTB are going to crash the system. Plans are already in place to lame Trump an his supporters. At minimum Trump will morph into
Hoover at worst CWII.
“Some serious issues will be hitting next decade, soil degredation, water depletion and the rest plus rise in population continue to make food stability a big problem.” ——bubbah
Excellent observations. All human visionaries and planners always assume an infinite amount of resources. Men plan, god laughs.
It’s why I have said for years that China is someday in for an epic collapse …. 1.3 Billion people living in an area the size of the USA. Unbelievable. Unsustainable. They already have massive environmental problems. You rarely, if ever, hear about them unless you dig deep into the internets. Who cares? Ostrich syndrome. But, even an ostrich will eventually pull it’s head out of the sand. By the time China does, it will likely be too late.
They’re still trying to steal the election :
From Jim Stone.
“RED ALERT: THEY ARE STILL GOING TO STEAL THE ELECTION
SUMMARY: They are going to steal Arizona and Michigan, and then use special powers to flip 9 electoral votes away from Trump. THERE IS A REASON WHY THEY HAVE REFUSED TO MAKE THEIR TOTALS OFFICIAL. THIS IS NOT OVER YET
Trump won Arizona. Why has it not been made official? Trump won Michigan. Why has it not been made official? They are calling the counts “unofficial,” WHY? This could be the answer:
The following was posted to a popular forum:
I am writing this not to alarm, but to inform. I believe the Cabal is going to attempt to steal the election, and I’ll describe how they plan to do it below. With this information I believe we need to bring our force to bear, and prevent what the Cabal is planning. I’ve included information below that details actions that you can take to help stop them.
There are currently 3 states that have not declared a winner of the presidential election. The states are Arizona, Michigan, and New Hampshire.
I’ve done some digging. On the Guardian’s electoral map, checking each precinct, in each state, all precincts are completely reported. There is nothing, therefore, from stopping the officials in those states from declaring a winner.
Looking at other sources of information, however, and we get different results. For Arizona, [link to results.azcentral.com] shows that 2 precincts are NOT reported. There are 1467 precincts reporting out of 1469. Which is correct? Why hasn’t the Secretary of State declared a winner?
For Michigan, it appears that all precincts have reported, but still, no winner has been declared. You can go to the NY Times interactive map, and see that they are listing the Trump victory chance at 92%, aka likely… not even very likely.
And same thing for New Hampshire, 100% of precincts reporting. Still not called.
HERE IS THEIR PLAN – The Cabal plans to either delay these states then force recounts and find “missing ballots” and switch all of these states to Hillary. That won’t make a big splash in the news because Trump has already won the election.
BUT THEN – This leaves Trump up by only 9 electoral votes. And they have already created the notion that TRUMP LOST THE POPULAR VOTE – SO… a majority of Americans wanted Hillary. They will force 9 (going to House, Ryan selects Hillary) or 10 Electors to switch their votes to Hillary (bribes, or the popular vote was for Hillary, threat of death – maybe photos of the other people Hillary has killed).
AND THEN – Hillary is declared as President. The media will say this is shocking, but it is only fair as she “did win the popular vote”.
SO, what to do? One, we need this thread pinned. Then we need to start spreading this news so people are aware of this, so this is not surprising when they execute their plans. Then, people need to contact the offices of the Secretary of State below, and find out information about why the Secretaries haven’t declared a winner. We need these state to declare a winner. Trump will go up by 27 electoral votes, and it would be too difficult to force 36 Electors to flip their votes to Hillary.
We’ve been celebrating, relaxing, appreciating a rest from the exhaustion of this election. BUT IT IS NOT OVER. Let’s do our duty and force this issue now. We cannot let them steal this election. We have won… but it ISN’T OFFICIAL YET.
GET TO WORK.
Office of the Secretary of State of Arizona
602-542-8683
1-877-THE VOTE
[link to http://www.azsos.gov (secure)
Office of the Secretary of State of Michigan
888-SOS-MICH; 888-767-6424
Office of the Secretary of State of New Hampshire
Phone: 603-271-3242
Fax: 603-271-6316
My response: YOU CAN BET ON IT, THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO IF PEOPLE DO NOT HOP ON THIS TO STOP IT. THEY WILL STEAL THIS BEHIND EVERYONE’S BACK WHEN NO ONE IS LOOKING.
There is no conceivable way these states have not reported yet unless they are casting ballots to do the final rig and STEAL THIS ELECTION NOW”
You think the riots are bad now?? The “right” will blow up the country. Well … they should.
Arizona declared Trump the winner yesterday and gave him their 11 EC votes. The tally now is 290-228 Trump. Michigan is reporting 100% of precincts tabulated with Trump winning 47.6-47.3. Even if Michigan tried to give their 16 EC votes to Harpie the total would be 290-244. Give Harpie 4 EC votes for NH and she still loses. Give Trump Michigan’s 16 EC votes and it is a rout.
I think it would play out the way John Ross (Unintended Consequences) portrayed it (maybe predicted it?).
The right is not prone to chaotic mass violence, it thinks things through too much for that.
The leftist leadership should consider this before trying anything funny to keep Trump from taking office after his win. Better they figure out to oppose him using legitimate political means after he takes office, if they can (which I doubt).
Jesus Christ I knew it.
Are the Secretaries State in those states Democrats?
Anon above was me. They are going to try to steal the election:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/douglas-anthony-cooper/the-electoral-college-was_b_12897066.html
I don’t believe anything from the HUFF and puff POST.
“Unless, until, the Cabal/Illuminati/Rockefellers/Rothschilds are outed, stripped of wealth and made to atone, we are just rearranging chairs on the deck.”
I may be in this camp. Money was stolen, looted, embezzled. They need to return that $$$$.
Will they?
Civil war II?…if the shite hits the fan, yes. The divide may be between the big Dem cities
and the “conservative” rural districts on the political end. Granted. But the fighting
will occur in the cities. In the countryside, men carry shotguns with them, even
(sometimes) when visiting neighbors. One never knows when “Joe’s got a bear.”
And dogs and scanning eyes prevail. Women have a mossberg at their bedside. Big
bear can breach a threshold. My son took a picture of one through his screen door. It was
on the porch. LOL
PS: charmin is a much better product than cottonelle…plus, more for your $.
Depends on what the central Bankers do. Especially the International Bank of Settlements.The Central Bank of central banks.
bb- The central banks (most of them globally) are owned by the Rothschilds. They will do what they are told and the Zionists will march us closer to the NWO.
Cmon guys and gals! I thought the readers of this site are smarter than this?!
Did you hear who Trump asked to be his Secretary of Treasury? Good ol’ JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon?!
How bout that change for ya?!
Hopefully that twisting, knotting feeling coming from your stomachs is the cold hard realization that you were duped!
Fuckin lames
Is this the same douche who said he couldn’t win last week? What a sage, you worthless one trick pony asshole.
If your referring to me? Im pretty sure I said that PRESIDENT EL DOUCHE WOULD WIN, AND looks like the money changers still won didnt they?!
All part of the economic and social destabilization of The USA…gotta devalue the US dollar to get it more in line with Canadian dollar and Mexican peso…,that will be the solution offered to the engineered crises and subsequent reactions from millions of American sheeple
Again,
Stay woke
He hasn’t named anyone you douche. Keep making shit up you boring one trick pony. You’re the new Reverse Engineer and potential new TBP Village Idiot.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trump-team-considering-jpmorgans-dimon-treasury-cnbc-170841913–sector.html
Youre right, according to the article link Jamie Dimon looks like he will turn the request down! Haha! But a formerGoldman Sachs exec or a hedge fund manager in Trumps inner circle are the front runners haha
In wonderland, where up is down and day is night, yes, yes I AM MAD!
and thank you for the comparison, I respect R.E. His insight and humor complimented the juvenile fart,dick and racist jokes that the shit throwing monkeys frequently devolved to
Your respect for RE tells me everything I need to know about your intellect. You are officially crowned TBP Village Idiot. I’m sure you’ll live up to the name. bb will be so sad.
You have no value to add to this site. Hit the fucking road.
Wow!! Admin already Channeling his inner-Trump
Haha!
I accept the crown and will wear it, head held high and eyes wide open. Hubris left by the wayside
More together. I can’t figure out how the nitwit liberals confuse racism with wanting to kick out illegals? We need to get that message out to the dumbest of the dumb. Obama was a disaster on race relations – intentionally, that’s why we have the riots today when 1 white person beats another white person in an election.
Good Grief.
Look, the Democratic Party is DEAD. They’re philosophically bankrupt and their stock just tanked. They have no leader at the DNC and have no political power. Their party is aging out as we speak. The only people left to carry on “the good fight” are their geriatric leaders Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and Diane Feinstein. It’s baffling to me that anybody is giving any attention to college students who collectively have no power, no money, and no political philosophy other than the abstract arguments of “social justice” AKA “Life’s not fair”. Stick a fork in em’ they’re done.
Great comment, steph
possibly best comment on this page.
marvelous response SS
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trump-team-considering-jpmorgans-dimon-treasury-cnbc-170841913–sector.html
Instead of discussing what the article talks about, let Admin label me the Village Idiot…either a case of classic denial or ad hominem to try and manipulate perceptions…and i am waiting for someone to say the tired cliche, we need someone like a hedge fund manager or bankster because they are “experts” and can be trusted to fix the system they have profited from for decades haha
Assuming the Uniparty neocon globalists don’t use some Mexican or Muslim patsy to bump Trump off, I think we’ll be more unified in 3 year years. In 2020, we’ll be disunified again, since that’s what the parties do in an election year. Think Romney and “binders of women”. But by 2019 we’ll be far more unified than now. As soon as Trump gets the wall 80% built (which will be far faster than imagined), he’ll start cutting a deal to allow most of the illegals to stay – although not as citizens anytime soon. This will piss off a lot of his 2016 base, but they’ll get over it because they’ll have to. He’ll cut the corporate tax rate, with a tax holiday of sorts to incent bringing money held overseas back into the US. He’ll keep the most popular parts of Obamacare (kids staying on their parents’ policy to age 26) while enacting things like drug reimportation that will cut costs. He’ll appoint a couple of conservative SCOTUS justices (bringing about a big Senate fight), but the court probably won’t agree to re-visit Roe (stare decisis & all) or open the gay marriage can of worms. So he’ll have done all he could in the social conservatives’ view, but it won’t make any difference to law. Russia will have buttressed Assad in power. Russia, Iran & Hezbollah will have defeated ISIS, so any Christians left alive in Syria & Iraq will have a chance at staying alive (since we sure as shit haven’t given any of them refugee status in the US). America will largely have stayed out of war, but of course, Trump will get as much credit for that as someone gets for not murdering their wife. By 2020 most of the illegals will be happy they’re being allowed to stay, and they won’t care much about not being allowed to vote. It took Nixon to open the door to China. It’ll take Trump to resolve the illegal alien situation. He may not even run for reelection, since it’d be a giant pain in the ass. By the time he leaves office, Mexicans will have his portrait in their house alongside Our Lady of Guadalupe.
Of course, if the globalists kill him early in his term, then Pence will reprise George W Bush and get talked into invading Iran by the neocon cabal. Yeah, cabal.
I think it it less a matter or being more or less divided and more a matter of whether or not the divisions -racial, political, religious, etc.- are more or less overtly hostile and violent toward each other.
I don’t think the division is going to go away for a long time.
Iska, Okay, so Mexicans are like the early Jews who killed Christ and then wailed when they realized he was the Messiah. They will have Trumpo there right next to the Virgin of Guadalupe with Pope John Paul II on the other side. Beautiful image.
https://youtu.be/D27Eh-q_ezo
Q1. More divided.
Q2. I hope so. Sooner would be better than later. Bring it! (But I’ll give Trump a year first!)
(1) – Less divided – those who will not work will starve, and reduce the divide accordingly.
(2) Quite possible – but I doubt CWII will last six months, let alone six years. The Marxist side has no leaders capable of planning a campaign against real, hostile forces, and most of the military has been Southern for a couple of generations.
First, the War Between the States (Civil War) was not a civil war. That fight was not for control of the government (which is the definition of a civil war), the South wanted to leave the United States and form a new union. Therefore, we won’t have “Civil War 2.0.”
I think Civil War vs WW3 is a false choice. We’ve been fighting WW3 for about 30 years, a group of people have declared war on us (USA, specifically, and Western Civilization in general), we just haven’t acknowledged it yet.
I don’t think we’ll have a civil war either. There may be fighting in the streets in the large cities in some states, but I don’t think we will have an all out civil war. I think what is more likely is the Union will simply break apart, and that will be unfortunate. There are certainly states that could band together and make it, but the United States are stronger together.