Is This The Democrats’ Real Strategy In Launching Recounts?

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Over the past couple of days we’ve written numerous times about Jill Stein’s recount efforts in WI, MI and PA (see here, here and here).  And while it’s clear that Stein intends to move forward with recounts in all three states (she’s now up to $6.1mm in donations), what is unclear, and quite perplexing, is exactly why she’s pursuing these recounts in the first place.  Here are the potential justifications from Stein’s perspective, as we see them:

  1. Personal self-interest? – Obviously, No.  With less than 1% of the vote in WI, MI and PA, Stein obviously has no shot of winning any of the states in question.
  2. Hopes of recount tipping states to Hillary? – No.  Multiple experts and even Hillary campaign insiders have admitted that overturning election results with a margin of victory of several 1,000 votes is extremely unlikely.  To win, Hillary would have to flip WI, MI and PA even though she trails by ~20k, ~12k and ~70k votes in each of those states, respectively…not going to happen.
  3. Exposing voting machine hacking? – No.  Even the Obama administration has confirmed the the election was “free and fair from a cybersecurity perspective” and that votes “accurately reflect the will of the American people.”  By failing to present even a shred of evidence of vote tampering in her WI recount petition, instead choosing to focus on wild conspiracy theories, Stein effectively also admits that there was no “hacking” of voting machines.
  4. Fundraising scam to get millions in donations from disaffected Hillary voters? – Maybe.  As of right now, Stein has raised ~$6mm of the $7mm she says she needs to fund recount efforts.  Assuming Stein goes through with recounts in all three states and her cost estimates are reasonably accurate then she won’t really have that much money left over to be added to the general Green Party coffers.

So, with no practical reason for forcing recounts, what exactly is Jill Stein up to?

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One theory is that Stein is simply hoping to disrupt the electoral college process to push the 2016 election into the hands Congress while drawing the legitimacy of Trump’s presidency into question.

As Edward Foley, an expert in election law at Moritz College of Law at Ohio State University, pointed out to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, electors from around the country have to meet by December 19th to cast their electoral college votes.  To the extent recounts in WI, MI and PA have not been completed by that time, which experts assign a high probability that they will not, there is a chance that the electoral votes from those three states wouldn’t be counted leaving neither candidate with the required electoral votes to win the presidency (electoral count would be Trump 260 versus Hillary 232).

If the electoral college process fails to select a President then the election would be left in the hands of Congress to decide.  Given that the Senate and House are both controlled by Republicans, in theory they would then choose Trump/Pence, though in this election cycle nothing is a certainty.  Moreover, even if Trump/Pence are chosen, the whole process of being appointed by Congress, combined with a loss of the popular vote, would then cast a dark shadow over their administration.

Wisconsin’s recount will likely begin late next week, once the state has tallied a cost estimate and received payment from Stein’s campaign, said Michael Haas, administrator of the Wisconsin Elections Commission.

 

Political scientist Barry Burden, the director of the Elections Research Center at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, said it would be extremely difficult to complete the recount on time.

 

“You may potentially have the state electoral votes at stake if it doesn’t get done by then,” said Haas.

 

A lawyer with Stein’s campaign has said it wants the recount done by hand. That would take longer and require a judge’s order, Haas said.

 

Perhaps the most important deadline is Dec. 19, when electors around the country must meet to cast their Electoral College votes, said Edward Foley, an expert in election law at Moritz College of Law at Ohio State University.

 

“That is a hard deadline and if a state were to miss that deadline, it would be technically in jeopardy of not having its electoral votes counted,” he said.

Of course, if this theory is even partially true then it’s extremely disturbing on a variety of levels. That a person with absolutely no standing. in terms of personal damages, and no presentation of credible evidence of wrongdoing could unilaterally disrupt a presidential election is not only a failure of Stein’s personal character but it’s a failure of our election rules and procedures that such reckless behavior would be permitted.

 

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James
James
November 27, 2016 9:47 pm

I have no doubt that jilly is being rewarded back door by the dnc/billary/what have you.

Only other option is she is insane,want the country to burn due to the venner of civility(tis very thin!)breaking apart.

Either way,things go very wrong do not forget about her in the chaos she either thru bribe or true insanity created.

KaD
KaD
November 27, 2016 10:38 pm

Another traitorous bitch that deserves a bullet.

starfcker
starfcker
  KaD
November 28, 2016 6:46 am

A good whipping would suffice, Kd. Stein has no standing in Michigan and Pennsylvania. This is going nowhere. All the opinions in this piece are from nobodies. Waste of ink.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
November 27, 2016 10:50 pm

Jill Stein is a troll. If I was a counter in WI, MI, or PA I’d be pissed the rich, white, bored, old bitch was wasting my time with a recount. Fact of the matter, Michigan uses paper ballots. She’s just wasting everybody’s time.

ed_209
ed_209
November 27, 2016 10:56 pm

CiViL WaR ?

Miles Long
Miles Long
November 27, 2016 11:30 pm

I have a house on a lake she can buy for under $500K. Bernie got his already.

General
General
November 28, 2016 1:06 am

By now, anyone with a brain knows that Hillary Clinton is a liar, cheater, and murderous psychopath. She is obviously using Jill Stein, while trying to keep her own hands a bit cleaner this time around. The only real question is what is she up to. She already conceded.

unit472
unit472
November 28, 2016 4:11 am

Just another Russian Jew who went to Harvard doing what she can to bring pogroms to America.

Hillary
Hillary
November 28, 2016 6:19 am

Are we worried yet?

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
November 28, 2016 6:49 am

So let me get this straight-

Jill Stein who has NO chance of winning in either recount is allowed to demand one simply because she has the funds to do so? Does that mean that anyone can challenge the official count if they pony up?

BB
BB
November 28, 2016 7:31 am

This is easy.She is getting paid by other leftist Jews to disrupt the election.Follow the big money behind the donations .Will it work???I hope Trump put her and Clinton in jail.

Southern Sage
Southern Sage
November 28, 2016 8:31 am

Some time ago I wrote a note pointing out that extraordinary measures are going to have to be taken against the liberal Democrats, the Progressives and other filth of that ilk. This latest stunt only proves it. I believe Trump will eventually have to organize a Civil Guard of loyal citizens, backed by the military and police, and take direct action against these traitors. They are the “Domestic Enemy” named in the Constitution. The idea that an American citizen can do and say anything he feels like, no matter how treasonous or damaging to our country is nonsense. During the American Revolution large numbers of Americans chose to support King George III over their own country. They were “Americans”, but they were the Domestic Enemy. The response? They were jailed, lost all civil rights and had their property confiscated. Many were expelled from the country. The most obnoxious were hanged. The North, with much weaker legal justification (if any) treated Southerners the same way during and after the Civil War. It is time for an iron hand.

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 28, 2016 8:56 am

The left is not going to surrender power easily or peacefully. They are capable of and absolutely willing to do anything at all to keep it.

The question is, will the right let itself be cheated out of it by them?

I’m thinking the probability of it is well over 50% that they will, but I hope I’m wrong about that and it turns out to be 0%.

TJF
TJF
November 28, 2016 9:17 am

So, now the headlines are are blaring that Trump is peddling fringe conspiracy theories by stating that millions of illegals voted. Of courses Jill and Hillary are just seeking the truth. If there is no voting fraud, then why are they asking for the recounts?

People need to lay of the Brawndo.

Warren
Warren
November 28, 2016 9:31 am

If the election goes to the US House, they pick from the top three candidates, so if Trump were not to get to 270, and even just one of his (0r hILLery’s) electors were to vote for Jeb, or even Paul Ryano, and there were no other candidates with one vote, then the house could elect that person as President.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Warren
November 28, 2016 10:01 am

And that might actually happen if they failed to understand the reason behind this last election results.

Warren
Warren
November 28, 2016 9:43 am

The claim that a recount is needed in Pennsylvania because of possible hacking is flagrantly ludicrous. Never mind that the machines in PA are not hooked up to the internet, they so old that they are mechanical analog machines.
How about a go fund me page to pay for an audit of the voter rolls in Nevada, New Hampshire, Minnesota, New Mexico and Colorado instead. That is where the real election stealing can be found.