Is the Pope Catholic?

Guest Post by The Zman

There’s been a lot of commentary about Pope Francis being a commie, mostly from Official Conservatism, which now holds a puerile understanding of both communism and capitalism. Evangelii Gaudium (The Joy of the Gospel), is a 2013 apostolic exhortation by Pope Francis that criticizes neoliberal global capitalism, among other topics. American “conservatives” took this mild critique to mean the Pope opposes the new religion of Globalism, so he must be a Marxist, because Marxists are bad.

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The thing is, Catholicism has always been opposed, to some degree, to capitalism, particularly certain aspects of what we now call capitalism. The most obvious example is the opposition to usury. Every lecture on the evils of antisemitism contains some reference to the Church forbidding usury. Less well known is the Catholic Church’s embrace of localist economics and politics, in opposition to the internationalism of Soviet communism. The point being, the Church has never been a fan of global capitalism.

The criticism of the Pope on economic grounds says more about the bottomless ignorance of modern conservatism than it does the Pope or the Church. For the Church, any church for that matter, economics are downstream from theology. In fact, economic positions should only matter in so far as how they advance the particular theological points of the faith. Catholicism long attachment to the sovereign authority of the people, naturally leads it to embrace national economics over global economics.

That bit is sure to get some spergy responses from Catholics and Christians, but we’ll deal with that in the comments. The point to take away is that it is perfectly plausible for the Pope to be within Catholic doctrine and oppose the current fads in global economics and not be a communist. The fact that secular defenders of globalism are more hive minded than the clerical critics, suggests globalism has become more of an all consuming religion than Catholicism. It is international fascism. 

Whether or not the Pope is a globalist is unimportant. What matters is whether or not he is a Catholic. Look at the response from Francis when Trump announced that he was withdrawing the US from the Paris climate deal. The Pope had heavily lobbied Trump in person on the mysteries of climate. He gave him a a book pushing the apocalyptic claims of the most unhinged climate fanatics. It’s not unfair to say that the Pope bet a big chunk of the Church’s prestige on this, so naturally he was very angry at the result.

Now, the Pope had a joint presser with Trump on his home turf. Trump has been divorced a few times, has children from a variety of women. He is, by his own admission, a serial adulterer. The Church, at its core, opposes the way in which Trump has lived his life. At their meeting in Rome, the Pope could have taken the time to admonish Trump on these basic theological issues. At the minimum, he could have made the most powerful man in the world blush a bit about his lifestyle, even if he was not willing to be Thomas More.

Of course, the Pope is more than a theologian and spiritual leader. He is a politicians so it is understandable if maybe he would avoid the personal. He could have, however, weighed in on the oppression of Christians and Catholics in the US. That health care bill everyone says is a mess has provisions that compel Catholics to act in a way that contradicts their faith. That should be pretty damned high on the Pope’s list of concerns to be broached with the American President.

It’s not just a question about the Pope being Catholic, or at least prioritizing Catholic theology over his personal theology. The question is whether the Catholic Church is still Catholic. It used to be that the Church was at the forefront of social issues like abortion and homosexual marriage. Today, it is rare to hear anything from the Church on social issues. Instead, in the US at least, the Church is more concerned with maintaining their refugee rackets and defending Gaia from your lawnmower.

We are in a post-Christian world so perhaps it is inevitable that the Catholic Church would be looking around for a way to remain relevant. Attendance at Christian services continues to drop and the median age of self-identified Christians keeps going up. On the other hand, it is not unreasonable to think that maybe what hurts the Catholic Church is that it has stopped being Catholic. There are a million places to hear sermons on Gaia, diversity and other Progressive fads. The Pope is just another voice in the choir.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
June 3, 2017 11:22 am

Whatever the Pope is he seems to be rather ignorant of a number of basic Christian themes.

1 The whole purpose of the Church it to carry the Gospel to all people, to baptize them and teach them of reconciliation with God through Christ as the only way to accomplish it.

2 While no one is forced to become Christian, cannot be forced as it is in the secret places of the heart that conversion occurs, a Christian does not recognize other gods as equal to the triune God of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, God in three persons.

There is no acceptance of other gods and Christians do not recognize, honor, or promote them.

3 Most all of the socialist and climate stuff he preaches is not in the prophecies, and he apparently is ignorant of or ignores them as he seems to see the world going against what they teach will come to pass in the end times.

He seems to see the salvation of the world dependent instead on mans actions towards itself and the environment and those actions as being superior to God’s foretold future plans and the defeat of Satan by the forces of Christ as the end of our struggle with evil.

Or maybe he just does these things to lead people away from the truth of the Bible and God’s words and prophecies contained within it.

Maybe his purpose is to prepare the way for the coming of the Antichrist the way John the Baptist prepared the way for the appearance of Jesus as the Christ. Everything God presents to man, Satan will imitate in a counterfeit form to deceive the people into following him instead of God, leading them through the wide gate that leads only to destruction.

Only Christ can judge the Pope as a man, but we can certainly judge his actions by weighing them against the revealed word of God to see if they are in accord with it.

javelin
javelin
  Anonymous
June 3, 2017 11:34 am

Excellent post–and excellent point in #3, there is little doubt the pope is a humanist and in my opinion, not Christian in what he teaches and professes. Only God knows his heart truly, I can only discern by the words he says and agendas he assists.

jackson
jackson
  javelin
June 3, 2017 3:26 pm

Zman said:

“For the Church, any church for that matter, economics are downstream from theology.”

Treasure comes after moral position???

LMAO… on what planet has that ever been true?

The next thing you know, the Zman will be telling you the Pope is actually a Libertarian Running Dog!

kokoda - the most deplorable
kokoda - the most deplorable
June 3, 2017 11:27 am

The Pope is a Globalist. He is not a Catholic. He is no different than Merkel, Macron, and all the others working to destroy European cultures and Nation States.

He doesn’t care about the poor – that is plain to see with his position on Global Warming.

jackson
jackson
  kokoda - the most deplorable
June 3, 2017 3:42 pm

Pope Francis is a Jesuit communist

javelin
javelin
June 3, 2017 11:30 am

I don’t know any conservatives who questioned the Pope’s Christianity based upon his economic ideas. It was more about his acts like : allowing Islam to hold services in the Vatican and “claim the basilica for allah” in a muslim prayer. Also he has countered the very core teachings of Christianity and Jesus Christ himself when he says things like, “atheists can go to heaven if they are good people” and ” Islam and Christians worship the same God.”
I won’t go into depth on any theological discussion, but suffice it to say, one cannot call Christ and the Bible liars or incorrect when they teach of Christ’s sacrifice on the cross as the only acceptable atonement for fallen man, yet the pope says we can be ” good enough” to get to heaven.
Sorry Francis–the entire BASIS of Christianity is Jesus Christ was sent here to redeem a fallen world and because of God’s incredible love for us, His creation, He found a way to reform a path between his perfect and holy self and sinful, fallen mankind. If we could be “good enough”, there was no need for Jesus at all.

javelin
javelin
  javelin
June 3, 2017 11:31 am

It appears anon posted his excellent reply while I was still typing.

Miles Long
Miles Long
June 3, 2017 12:05 pm

A much deeper question… Is a frog’s asshole watertight?

Ed
Ed
  Miles Long
June 3, 2017 4:08 pm

That’s a trick question, right?

Miles Long
Miles Long
  Ed
June 3, 2017 5:50 pm

Does the pope shit in the woods?

Is a bear Catholic?

Flashman
Flashman
June 3, 2017 12:06 pm

The False Prophet.

Rojam
Rojam
June 3, 2017 3:33 pm

Syncretism runs rampant with this Pope. This is a serious and dangerous heterodox position to take. He breaks the first commandment of God and there is a reason it IS the first commandment. Instead of asking if this Pope IS A Catholic, we should be asking if this Pope’s theology IS catholic. Does he faithfully follow the doctrine of the church set forth through the teachings of Christ? While we can not and must not look into his heart to judge him, we can and must look to, and judge, his theology. Believing there is a God other than the Triune God and believing there is salvation other than through faith in the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ proves that he calls God a liar. In turn it also proves the Pope to be a false prophet and hardly catholic or orthodox in his teachings and beliefs.

(As for the church of Rome “looking around for a way to remain relevant;” if that statement is true then Christians who belong to such an institution [for it no longer can be called a church], should flee as quickly as possible. The Gospel message of Jesus Christ on its own, with no help from man, is and will remain relevant, yesterday, today and forever.)

AC
AC
June 3, 2017 6:06 pm

People probably call him a communist because of his background and his actions. In his own words, one of his most important mentors was a communist. He was admittedly fond of communist literature. Then there is ‘liberation theology,’ his apparent fondness for it, and its relationship with communism.

Pope Francis’s Communist Mentor

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/417383/secret-roots-liberation-theology

And ‘international fascism?’ Beyond absurd. Why the perverse eagerness to falsely conflate fascism with globalism? Fascism is inherently anti-globalist and pro-nationalist – where communism is inherently anti-nationalist and pro-globalist. It’s literally in their foundational documents.

To have cited Hannah Arendt’s heavily biased work (in article in the link) is laughable. Fascism was the counterpoint to communism. This is extremely well documented. Her text is nothing but propaganda.

Llpoh
Llpoh
June 3, 2017 10:05 pm

Pope – head of perhaps the world’s biggest business. Nuff said.