FACTS DON’T CHANGE, BUT STORIES DO

Guest Post by Ol’ Remus

art-remus-ident-04.jpg This is from the Free Thought Project, about the timeline change in the Las Vegas shooting:

According to the first official timeline, Campos was shot in the leg while checking on an alarm. According to the original police-reported timeline, Paddock never fired on the crowd below again after shooting Campos.

But now, we are being told that is not what happened and we should believe their new story which is completely different. To be clear, this information was simple to find out as all they had to do was ask Campos who was only shot in the leg before he began shooting.

Did they ask Campos? If not, why not? If yes, did he change his story? In case you missed it, the timeline changed again late Friday when the Sheriff said Paddock didn’t shoot the hotel security guard at 9:59 after all, it was 10:05.

The closer we look at the facts, the less factual they become—exactly when Paddock checked in, who called who and when, stuff like that. And if we don’t like the official facts, Mandalay’s management has a different set. Facts don’t change, hence the name, but stories do, and usually for a reason.

Jesus Campos acts like a man with something to hide. Oddly, he turns out not to be licensed to work security in Nevada, and he was unarmed, almost as if his citizenship status isn’t all it should be. Then, minutes before a scheduled tevee interview, his union rep said Campos disappeared. Do the investigators know where he is?

“Right now I’m just concerned where my member is, and what his condition is. It’s highly unusual,” said the union rep. Officials told David Hickey, the union prez, Campos checked into “a clinic” shortly after standing up the press, but not why or which one. There’s an odd timeline all by itself.

Meanwhile, over at Paddock’s house, someone broke in after the police searched it and boarded it up. Hmm. Seems risky, especially if the place was under surveillance. If this were a detective novel we’d suspect there was something in there important enough to retrieve.

The SWAT team covered themselves with something other than glory. So far the investigation doesn’t inspire confidence. Every time we think we know something, we don’t. The news media, strangely incurious, is less interested in finding answers than pushing more gun control. The vacuum’s being filled with cockamamie theories that mostly defy physics and common sense. The only thing in short supply here is facts that stay facts.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
October 18, 2017 9:49 am

I imagine the investigators know a whole bunch more about this than they are letting the public know.

The question I have would be: Why?

FWIW, keep your eye closely on Campos as he emerges in an unexpected and unexplained way, Lombardo as well. If you are familiar with intimidating people and the effects it has on them, there are obvious signs you can recognize in those who are intimidated. Watch to see if you recognize any in the coming days.

Dutchman
Dutchman
October 18, 2017 9:58 am

Oh no! Not another fucking conspiracy?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Dutchman
October 18, 2017 10:09 am

There is most likely a conspiracy here somewhere, a real one, but it isn’t about the hiding involvement in or the nature of the shooting itself.

It is one to keep the details and facts restricted from public knowledge for some reason, a reason unknown at this time.

But I think that will eventually fall through, too many very normal people have noticed something funny about what we are being told from the start (something funny being the immediate denial of any terrorist connection followed by a real lack of information that should be being heavily reported that aren’t being mentioned anywhere other than some alternative sites).

MN Steel
MN Steel
  Anonymous
October 18, 2017 9:29 pm

Funny, like all the gates being locked, and the place lit up like Times Square soon after the shooting started?

ragman
ragman
October 18, 2017 10:24 am

Arkancide?

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
October 18, 2017 10:26 am

I’d start with Paddock reportedly filing a 2015 income tax return claiming $5 mil in income from gambling. As Ann Coulter tweeted, saying you earn money playing video poker is like saying you earn money from smoking crack. Unless the income tax return “fact” is another un-fact, Paddock used gambling as a justification for some other illegal income. What was it? The security guard is probably an illegal and Mandalay is fucking with the timeline to avoid lawsuits for liability, but there is also something else weirder going on here. So yes, another conspiracy. It is what it is.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Iska Waran
October 18, 2017 11:27 am

That is something I hadn’t considered before.

Gambling income claims using the IRS to legitimize income derived from other and illegal sources you don’t want to come to someone’s attention (someone such as LE agencies).

It would make sense for anything from drug dealers to clandestine arms dealers and all sorts of illicit activities in between.

rhs jr
rhs jr
October 18, 2017 10:38 am

This is really big huge can of worms.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
October 18, 2017 10:52 am

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It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma

Anonymous
Anonymous
  hardscrabble farmer
October 18, 2017 2:50 pm

I was watching the little guy and for some reason he is thrown forward instead of backwards in the direction of the drum spinning.

ubercynic
ubercynic
  Anonymous
October 18, 2017 3:47 pm

. . . for some reason he is thrown forward instead of backwards . . .

I think that’s hardscrabble farmer’s point.

SWAG (Scientific Wild Ass Guess): The same phenomenon that makes spoked wheels sometimes appear to rotate backwards in film / video.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  ubercynic
October 18, 2017 5:01 pm

I suspected that was his point and makes me wonder once more why the brain matter flew backwards onto the trunk of the car, that seems counter-intuitive.

carnac the insignificant
carnac the insignificant
  hardscrabble farmer
October 18, 2017 4:07 pm

A riddle, wrapped in a mystery shoved in an enigma, covered in ricotta cheese all wrapped in a canoli

MN Steel
MN Steel
  carnac the insignificant
October 19, 2017 6:27 pm

More like covered in lox wrapped in a bagel.

Centurion1222
Centurion1222
October 18, 2017 10:55 am

No doubt Campos will commit suicide, double tap to rear of head.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Centurion1222
October 18, 2017 11:11 am

Which is another reason – on top of monumental laziness – that journalists don’t do any journalizing these days. They tend to get whacked. See Michael Hastings. Andrew Breitbart. The person who exposed the Panama Papers and got blowed up real good about three days ago.

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 18, 2017 11:20 am

If Campos is really illegal – I doubt it, most illegals would be working in the kitchen or janitorial -he must be a DACA, he is quite comfortable speaking English with only a slight hint of an accent (to me anyway, I’m sure he sounds like Ricky Ricardo to folks from Boston).

Still, it must be galling to have the media painting a cubist Picasso of you. It must be like having your used underwear stolen and shown in great detail on tv and print.

He seems genuine, he just had a near-death experience like all the concert-goers that night.
EC

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
October 18, 2017 11:23 am

“Don’t go there.”

Off camera voice instructs Las Vegas Sheriff not to answer journalist during presser.

Listen: Hot Mic Catches Mystery Voice Telling Las Vegas Sheriff Not to Say Too Much

Done in Dallas
Done in Dallas
October 18, 2017 12:16 pm
Morongobill
Morongobill
  Done in Dallas
October 18, 2017 12:27 pm

On Vegas channel 5 at 3 pm today.

racistwhiteguy
racistwhiteguy
October 18, 2017 12:27 pm

I see he’s now doing the talk show circuit. This was a dem hit on repubs to goad them into a war to initiate martial law and confiscate guns.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  racistwhiteguy
October 18, 2017 12:44 pm

raciss, the preview said it was his last public appearance. He’s not going on the talk show circuit.
EC

overthecliff
overthecliff
October 18, 2017 12:43 pm

This incident is getting curiouser and curiouser.

TampaRed-
TampaRed-
October 18, 2017 2:54 pm

looks like jesus decided to cash in and he’s had somebody negotiating for him–

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 19, 2017 10:07 am