CIVILIAN COURT OR MILITARY TRIBUNAL

I’m about 99.5% sure this Q business is legit. There’s still .5% that expects the gestapo to rub me out any day now if Q turns out to be a campaign by the Deep State to identify those unwilling to assimilate. Honestly, that’ll be an acceptable outcome as well because I’m NOT getting on the cattle car.

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I’ve seen a few comments here regarding the legal justification for using Military Tribunals to prosecute the bad actors who have attempted, or are currently attempting, a Coup d’etat of the government  of the United States. There has been some back and forth about it on 8chan as well and I finally spotted a series of graphics along with a body of text put together by one on the anons over there. I’m not a lawyer but it looks like he lays it out pretty well. I welcome comments from all actual lawyers who might encounter this post.

The four graphics below are presented in the same order as referred to in the text below.

Note that baby Bush signed this into law. Once the ball gets rolling into the direction of 9/11 Truth that could come back to bite him in the ass real hard! Delicious!


Link to complete 12/20/2018 EO.https://media.8ch.net/file_store/9c2ff562e585c479ac47781626c31cdfabd92a8a5cc6ed5cac0fc586947dea7f.png


Link to complete 1/30/2018 EO.

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All pieces are now in place.

The big fish must be fried before a military tribunal, there is no other way to do it. Q told us that.

So, first we should notice from the opinion Q linked to in post 64 that the President has the authority to detain Unlawful Enemy Combatants in order to protect the nation AND to punish them for their crimes with a military tribunal. That raises the question of who an Unlawful Enemy Combatant might be and how they get put in that class.

We then observe the Military Commissions Act of 2006 grants the President or the SecDef the authority to establish a tribunal that determines whether an individual is an Unlawful Enemy Combatant. If the tribunal determines the individual to be an Unlawful Enemy Combatant, their ass belongs to the military. They may be detained and tried before a military tribunal for the crimes they committed that caused them to be declared Unlawful Enemy Combatants.

(That means that even as US Citizens, they have no recourse to civilian courts.)

Guess what the Executive Order of Dec. 21st did? Declared a state of National Emergency due to serious humans rights abuses and corruption, worldwide. But while that EO only talked about blocking/seizing property, by declaring a state of National Emergency other measures became available.

Why were only foreign persons listed in the Annex to the EO?

Misdirection. Don’t look at nationalities, look at the representative acts they committed. The EO can easily apply to US citizens, but one has to decipher it to see that.

Then we discover another Executive Order on “Protecting Americans Through The Lawful Detention of Terrorists”. In another masterful stroke of misdirection, this EO says “Today, the United States remains engaged in an armed conflict with al‑Qa’ida, the Taliban, and associated forces, including with the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.” It sounds like more “war on terror” but what that EO really did was cancel Obama’s EO shutting down Gitmo to re-establish Gitmo’s future availability.

We are in a state of armed conflict, but that EO does NOT mention that we are also in a state of National Emergency to deal with the problem with corruption and serious human rights, which leads anyone reading this to the impression that detainment only applies to those groups mentioned in the EO.

WRONG.

Sec. 2 (c) In addition, the United States may transport additional detainees to U.S. Naval Station Guantánamo Bay when lawful and necessary to protect the Nation.

As we now know, appointed tribunals can declare US citizens Unlawful Enemy Combatants based on their corruption or human rights abuses and place them in military detention for trial before a military tribunal. That means Gitmo WILL be available to deal with the swamp creatures. Detention. Military Tribunals. Meat sandwiches.

All pieces are now in place to start taking the pieces off the board. The financial action authority to freeze their funds was issued on Dec. 17th. The authorization to start detaining them was issued just before the SOTU and ensured Gitmo would be available. But who pays attention to EO’s these days?

Instead, everyone will be talking about the SOTU address and the MEMO.

Give the team credit where credit is due, the two referenced EO’s are rather artfully written. Unless one already understands the issue of an Unlawful Enemy Combatant, it doesn’t look like it impacts US Citizens in any meaningful way. WRONG.

We have front row seats to the greatest show on earth and the curtain has just gone up.


Q dropped a clue which referenced “12 which have been sat for 39 days”. This refers to the military tribunal with 12 judges. Some discussion indicated that a tribunal can have fewer than 12 judges but 12 is that magic number required to impose a death sentence. Apparently the tribunal was convened about 12/17/2017 to begin reviewing the evidence against what is expected to be 43 defendants that meet the standard to be declared enemy combatants.

There is a near universal feeling that this initial work has been completed. There also seems to be some intel indicating that:

  1. BHO was the target extracted during the ATL airport shutdown and he was whisked to Camp David where Trump was waiting that night for a little “get to know each other meet and greet” with the tribunal.
  2. Another source of intel, Brendan Dilley, indicated that the recent traffic in and out of GITMO is evidence lower level bad actors have been given mini vacations to warm, sunny GITMO to view the accommodations, enjoy the beaches, meet the staff and more importantly meet the tribunal as well. This has been referred to by Q as “catch and release”. Besides creating a come to Haysus moment for the guests, it sows doubt and discord among the bad actors as to who might have said what to whom. Q has said that many are seeking deals…multiple attempts by some, and the answer has been no.
  3. The recent train wreck chartered to take the GOP members to Greenbrier for their retreat seems to involve the tribunal judges who had to be moved due to intel about their location being revealed by a bad actor. The (minor) derailment was intentional.I believe the tribunal and Trump are all at the Greenbrier right now.
  4. Dilley’s intel source said that three of Trumps Cabinet members have recently been discovered to be bad actors.
  5. There will be more than one bombshell memo coming but no idea on timing or subject. First one is dominating the news cycle now.
  6. We should expect more false flags.
  7. Trust Wray. Q has said this many times. Q also says to “enjoy the show” because deception and misdirection are part of waging any war. Wray and Sessions are good guys as is General Flynn and Admiral Rogers. Those last two are going to have monuments built in their honor. Trey Gowdy is a good guy and is going back into law to take on a special role where he can be more effective. Hannity and Michael Savage are in the know and reporting truthfully.
  8. Dilley’s guy also said to expect another big executive order.
  9. The sealed indictment count is over 10,300 and climbing.

CEO’s, politicians and other assorted mediatainment scum continue to drop like flies. Have you noticed that the various media outlets are not marching in lockstep anymore. Topics are the same but the narrative is much more varied because operation mockingbird has gone quiet. If they were honest they might have actual independent journalists in the field looking for info such as “Q”. Q’s intel has proven correct more than enough times for a dogged journalist to turn up a story or two that might give his editor a direction to run. Sadly it looks like they will go down in flames before they get a clue.

If Trump declassifies the memo it will be out today. If he merely approves it’s release it goes back to Congress for some final procedural stuff then comes out after that.

Oh yeah, here’s a preemptive “blow me” for the inevitable snarky unbelievers! You know who you is! Just shuffle on by, Doomville is down the road on your right…..can’t miss it! 🙂

 

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Administrator
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February 2, 2018 8:30 am

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Andrea Iravani
Andrea Iravani
  Administrator
February 4, 2018 10:05 am

Military Tribunals Are Not a Solution – Andrea Iravani

Military Tribunals Are Not a Solution

Peace,
Andrea Iravani

Michael
Michael
  Andrea Iravani
February 5, 2018 11:45 am

So what is the solution to dealing justice? Our public law system is just as corrupt. What other manner do you perscribe? Honestly curious.

Frederick Warner Harvey
Frederick Warner Harvey
  Andrea Iravani
February 5, 2018 6:33 pm

Sure they are the solution. They cared so much for us, let’s return the favor. It was their choice to meet out distress. Let Rule-of-Law be rule of law.

The best way to defeat criminality is not be one. We are the ONLY country ever in history to embrace rule-of-law as the prime directive. Not always “comfortable, but with no rule-of-law, then there is no “America”. Besides which, there is no longer any place on earth to run, like there was in the late 1700’s.

So we need to stand up. We need to face this. We became weak, and inattentive. “Pacify” is not it. So long as we employ law and justice and fairness, I am OK with the results for those in high office who refused to comply with law.

Those who know combat know this: “Strike when you are struck, don’t “think” about it…if you want to survive”.

RULES FOR SURVIVAL

First you win, THEN you fight
When in doubt, don’t

RULES OF ENGAGEMENT:

+ BE WITHOUT FEAR IN THE FACE OF YOUR ENEMIES.
+ BE BRAVE AND UPRIGHT THAT GOD MAY LOVE YOU.
+ SPEAK THE TRUTH, EVEN IF IT LEADS TO YOUR DEATH.
+ SAFEGUARD THE HELPLESS, AND DO NO WRONG.

Groucho
Groucho
  Administrator
March 6, 2018 6:13 pm

Loons. You’re a bunch of friggin’ loons.

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 2, 2018 8:30 am

Me Likey.
Thx., I.S.

RS
RS
  Anonymous
February 2, 2018 10:41 am

Ditto, good post, I.S.. Doubt it was HUSSIEN that was picked up at ATL, however.

LetsPlay
LetsPlay
  Anonymous
February 4, 2018 11:14 pm

People act so squeamish not wanting to act on, not remembering, or not knowing the wisdom handed down by the wise man, Thomas Jefferson. He told us “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” It is not easy but it IS necessary and way overdue.

BB
BB
February 2, 2018 8:32 am

Blow you ,blow me ,blow everybody like those gals on red tube not that I watch that much like some perverts on this site.I am an unbelievable .All you have proven is that you have an imaginary friend call Q whom you hope will throw off this yoke of oppression called the U S of A . It’s not going to happen .As long as the enemy Controls the mass media as well as the Banking System.They control the narrative and the currency.Got that MEATHEAD .Now go play with your friend and stop giving people False Hope.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  BB
February 2, 2018 9:19 am

What is red tube?

Rdawg the fascist
Rdawg the fascist
  Anonymous
February 2, 2018 7:43 pm

Don’t know but my guess is that his li’l BB gets a brisk polish while he watches “those gals” on it.

javelin
javelin
  BB
February 2, 2018 9:43 am

Seems as if the intel has been pretty accurate thus far ( don’t know about the Gitmo stuff). Just the emergence of the FISA memo and the fact that they are going to release it regardless of the resistance from the FBI, DNC, DOJ etc seems pretty good evidence that big things are happening and the “all powerful” deep state is not so “all powerful” after all.

Don’t see the bankers crashing their corrupt financial system to protect the spooks.

curtmilr
curtmilr
  javelin
February 2, 2018 10:39 am

Don’t know about Gitmo???

Did you see this back at New Years???

http://www.azfamily.com/story/37161594/az-national-guard-military-police-unit-deploys-to-guantanamo

prusmc
prusmc
  curtmilr
February 4, 2018 3:18 am

In order to comply with overall strength at end of year restrictions, the Armed Forces put Reservists and National Guard personnel on limited periods of active duty. This applies to particular units as well as selected individuals (usually eager volunteers who make more money and have greater benefits than in the civilian jobs). The unit usually deployes at less than TOE manning levels with many who don’t want to deploy replaced with volunteer fillers. These units rotate in and out of place where regular military personnel would be accompanied by dependents and probably would trigger PCS entitlements. Military Police units as well as other Combat Support and Combat Service Support organizations are cost effective for these minimal risk missions.
There is a rotation to Gitmo and other remote locations as short term mobilizations are completed and a newly mobilized unit takes up the mission. Much concern about an Arizona MP being assigned to Gitmo last month. However, it was simply replacing an MP unit from Minnesota that had completed a 9 month rotation
Same story about the New York unit.
It would be satisfying to anticipate some of the bad actors being sent to Gitmo for Military Tribunals. But that is wishful thinking. Furthermore, how many of the Enemy Combatants taken in the CENTCOM AO have faced Military Tribunals, been convicted and given sentences? It appears that many are just swapped out or quietly released.

bon
bon
  curtmilr
February 5, 2018 6:17 am

Does the story reveal the names of any Gitmo prisoners? No, so why present this as evidence?

bon
bon
  javelin
February 5, 2018 6:13 am

I’m still waiting for 11/3/17 his very first post “Dear Patriot” about martial law 11/3 & how we were supposed to get an EMS alert from Trump.

You don’t explain that by claims of “fluidity” it was very specific and if true, simply would not have been revealed ahead of time. There are many “predictions” explainable by Q actually being deep state and actually involved in the events “predicted” and by the constant illegal surveillance of Team Trump.

No these are not the comments of a “snarky” infidel it’s just that I always ask myself “what is a plausible alternate to Q’s alternative takes on current events and… non-events

bon
bon
  javelin
February 5, 2018 6:31 am

Anyone anywhere near the oversight committees, including democrat traitors and the Intel agencies who are always illegally spying on the Senate, the Congress and Team Trump knew the FISA Memo was coming.

How does pre-knowledge of the memo prove Q is our guy?

RS
RS
  BB
February 2, 2018 10:42 am

BB shows he doesn’t have a clue about Q anon.

HerrHimmler
HerrHimmler
  RS
February 2, 2018 11:03 am

It only shows that BB isn’t addicted to “hopium” and has his feet firmly planted in reality. Just the facts, ma’am, just the facts.

Unclezip
Unclezip
  BB
February 2, 2018 12:56 pm

“not that I watch that much”…”I am an unbelievable”. “Throw off this oppression”.

Drinking and keyboarding do not go well together. If you don’t like it here, there’s a spot in North Korea just for you.

Rdawg the fascist
Rdawg the fascist
  Unclezip
February 2, 2018 7:44 pm

Sadly, that’s not the result of drinking. He really is that stupid.

KennyMac
KennyMac
  BB
February 2, 2018 4:50 pm

Stop being such a defeatist, you whiny little faggot

Greg in NC
Greg in NC
February 2, 2018 8:40 am

Lets hope it is so. There is no other way to take back the power, restore liberty, and the constitution.
I am certain there will be violent and bloody protests but hey, that provides cover for the good citizens to reduce the number of bad citizens without fearing court or jail.

Maggie
Maggie
February 2, 2018 8:42 am

I agree something is about to happen, but am not sure it goes as high as it needs to go. The queen very rarely loses her head.

Persnickety
Persnickety
  Maggie
February 2, 2018 10:26 am

Yeah. My biggest fear is that all this will result in some huge upheaval that is intended to convince people there was a swamp-draining, but in actual fact was just skimming off some surface scum while improving the security of the real players at bottom.

I hope I’m wrong. Realistically I may not know in my lifetime.

You remember 1983’s War Games, “The only winning move is not to play?” I am increasingly thinking that there is no possible redemption of any large-scale system, no matter what, and the only smart move is to withdraw. Go Galt or go Amish, but don’t expect the global system to become clean and wholesome.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Persnickety
February 2, 2018 4:56 pm

“You remember 1983’s War Games, “The only winning move is not to play?””

Do you have any idea how many times Q has used that exact quote?

Stay tuned and enjoy the show.

bon
bon
  Anonymous
February 5, 2018 6:51 am

“The only winning move is not to play?””

“Do you have any idea how many times Q has used that exact quote?”

Well, excepting global thermonuclear war this is simply not true for every other “game”

And as evidence I would ask a simple question: Does the shadow gov’t “not play”?

Of course, they do “play” it is the only way to win. And I suspect Q is hoping that by repeating these pop cultural homilies and condescending assurances of our “certain victory”that he/she/they can convince you sit this one out and “enjoy” the show

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Maggie
February 2, 2018 11:58 am

2 words, Maggie, French Revolution. Although, that sucked and lets hope this all doesn’t go sideways.

Maggie
Maggie
  Mary Christine
February 2, 2018 12:10 pm

Well, if the bitch had known anything about baking, she might have known to shut her piehole.

bon
bon
  Maggie
February 5, 2018 7:08 am

There’s a book floating around, wish I could remember which one, which proves that Marie Antoinette’s alleged retort “let them eat cake” was falsely attributed to her. Turns out her Jacobin enemies lifted the quote from someone else who uttered it a century earlier.

So, more fake news written from the poison pen of the((( Jacobins))) in much the same vein as they do today.

Remember, the victors write history and if we lose this one, can you imagine the historical narrative these modern day Jacobins will write from today’s fake news headlines?.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
February 2, 2018 8:44 am

I wish I had something to offer that wasn’t based on my gut. I can clearly see that our political system has been corrupted for such a long time that if any kind of fix were to happen it could only be one of three ways- external invasion, domestic insurrection or something that follows the script of the Q saga- a long, drawn out, meticulously planned and precisely executed “lawful”deconstruction of the entire administrative framework.

The Progressive/Cultural Marxist takeover of the institutions of the USA has been a long march and I believe it began in 1913 with the Jekyll Island takeover of our domestic banking and the creation of the Federal Reserve. Clearly if you know anything about it, that was done in an extra-lawful manner (technically legal, but intentionally corrupt). Once you had the ability to come up with unchecked sums of money, you had grease for the skids to get the show started. After that it was one institution after another, slowly placing assets and accumulating influence and power.

I think what makes it so hard for people to grasp is the duality of inherent human decency and the existence of cold blooded evil. If you have never cared about power or having control over others, how can you even begin to fathom the motivation? And if that is your driving force and you control the levers of power, who could know what you were up to, much less stop you?

wdg
wdg
  hardscrabble farmer
February 2, 2018 9:53 am

I could not agree more. The creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve in 1913, in violation of the US Constitution which does make it illegal, was perhaps the most important milestone in the corruption and decline of the United States of America. Yet…not one person in a thousand understands why the control of dollar creation and the financial/monetary system by private and largely foreign interests is so important. As you have indicated, it provided almost unlimited dollars to literally buy and subvert America – the US government, Congress, “judicial” system, major corporations, mass media, education, etc. and to wage endless wars around the planet.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  wdg
February 2, 2018 10:27 am

One in a thousand? Try one in a million. As the black-sheep member of a multi-generational Fed family, I’d venture to assure you that the Fed has been, is and will be the most successful “long con” ever perpetrated on the naive citizenry of the USA. If y’all up there don’t take back financial sovereignty from an internationalist banking cabal, color yourselves fugged.

wdg
wdg
  Montefrío
February 2, 2018 2:40 pm

You are probably correct in that it is more like one in a million. And you are correct that the US is finished if it does not take back “..financial sovereignty from an internationalist banking cabal…” And to do that, we must define this “international banking cabal” and from what I know, the Fed was created by Rothschild banking family. Their agents were Paul Warburg and J.P. Morgan who along with other traitors met secretly on Jekyll Island off the coast of Georgia to draw up plans for a privately owned central bank. The first attempt at establishing a central bank was scuttled by a courageous President Andrew Jackson, despite several assassination attempts.

“Gentlemen, I have had men watching you for a long time and I am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out and by the Eternal God I will rout you out. If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system, there would be a revolution before morning.” – Andrew Jackson

Rdawg the fascist
Rdawg the fascist
  Montefrío
February 2, 2018 7:48 pm

Things I learned about Monte today:
1) He’s a (self-identified) genius.
2) He attended an Ivy League school.
3) He is from Federal Reserve family (whatever that means) stock.

What a guy.

Ottomatik
Ottomatik
  hardscrabble farmer
February 2, 2018 10:21 am

HS-Not that it matters, of the three circumstances you listed for change, external, internal, or methodical internal, what does your ‘gut’ say? It was not clear to me, I assume it was the third, and you find much of IS and T4C’s reporting to be, at least, over the target, if not spot on in some instances, thanks for your thoughts.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Ottomatik
February 2, 2018 10:47 am

I’ll try and turn it into an essay soon, but based on the evidence- the number of big players who’ve dropped out, the disappearance of funding, the neutering of celebrity allies, the distinct look of discomfort on the faces of the very same people who appear to be targets, the kinds of disclaimers and the obvious evidence of long term corruption within the DOJ and the complete absence of anything coming out of a nearly year and a half long Russian Collusion investigation, it would appear that it’s #3.

I’m surprised- cynic that I have reluctantly become- but I trust the weight of what can be observed

Montefrío
Montefrío
  hardscrabble farmer
February 2, 2018 10:32 am

As you likely know, the “long march through the institutions” was the seminal project of evil genius Antonio Gramsci, imho the most perspicacious leftie thinker of the 20th century. For those who haven’t: read his writings, study his writings, reflect upon his writings as have those who intend to oppress you even further than they already have.

Robert (QSLV)
Robert (QSLV)
  hardscrabble farmer
February 2, 2018 11:49 am

Thanks HSF,

“If you have never cared about power or having control over others, how can you even begin to fathom the motivation? And if that is your driving force and you control the levers of power, who could know what you were up to, much less stop you?”

Probably the most important question any one could ask, and one that rests in the back of my head always.

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Robert (QSLV)

Maggie
Maggie
  hardscrabble farmer
February 2, 2018 12:08 pm

I have known some people I believed to be driven by evil intent, but I have rarely seen or come close to someone I considered to be evil.

When my son was a young teen, we changed churches, moving to one with a youth group and a pastor who was all about trying to welcome new young people with friends in the group. My son had friends in the group and appeared to no longer need his mother in Sunday School with him. I was forced to find my own friends.

A youngish couple sat toward the back of the church and, having been trained early in my Baptist upbringing, the advantages of sitting near the back are many, with the obvious quick get away top of the list. I settled near them, opened the study guide sent my way from the teacher up front and decided I was good. After a few weeks, the young couple became “friendly” toward me (Nick, by that time in our marriage, rarely joined my son and I at church, even when his father was with us and he went with me. Just one of those agreements we seemed to make.)

Her name was Charlene and she had an amazing singing voice, which she shared from time to time. But, what she shared with me one day froze my blood. She was the daughter of one of the very successful ministers in the greater OKC area. She sang in the choir and worked in the church. And sometimes, at night, he would climb into her bed after she was about ten and while she stared at the ceiling and prayed for God to help her, her father would rape her and pray aloud for God to forgive him. She left home when she was 18, taking her younger sister with her, threatening her father with exposure should he ever contact her. Neither he nor her mother ever tried. That is cold.

That she continued to have faith, married and had a very wholesome relationship with her husband, Dave, who helped me with Poppa Grooch’s wheelchair when he came with me a few times, was something equally profound. They were genuinely good people who wished no ill to anyone, only peace and justice. Charlene told me that forgiving her parents meant forgiving their failures as parents and leaving it to God to resolve.

It taught me something. Never trust a preacher who turns the church into the family business. Never. And that includes politicians who try to turn their country into a family business.

Military Tribunal has a lot of advantage and certainly is warranted by a national emergency.

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  Maggie
February 2, 2018 9:24 pm

Being raped by your dad is “god’s will”.

TS
TS
  Chubby Bubbles
February 2, 2018 11:40 pm

Noooo…that’s your dad’s will. We can ignore God’s will at anytime. He won’t make you do anything.
Reminds me of a woman who intentionally drove her car into a lake a few years ago with her kids in the back seat. Then, as people gathered and tried to help, she kept screaming “Why did God do that, why did God do that?” As her kids drowned right in front of her. See the connection?

Maggie
Maggie
  TS
February 3, 2018 9:02 am

Are you talking about this woman? She’s pretty evil, as well. Incest with one’s child/child murder. Same thing.

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NO BW… unfortunately, most of my sick stories are genuine, dredged up out of 56 years of living life and paying attention. Charlene’s story came to mind because she, like most victims of abuse, had to leave the home to escape the abuse.

As far as the DEMO MEMO and the CongressCritter Scramble goes?
Congress (Authority figure determining the laws governing our existence, like a father/preacher) caught the Administrative branch, which happens to also be the Law Enforcement branch, in bed with its children, investigative services. Now, we all realize that Obama probably DID know…hell, community organizing and creating propaganda streams are two sides of the same coin.

Right Andrea?

The government must be completely purged of the filth which cronyism, union malfeasance and the despicable tonybennetjerrymccune fatass union bosses raping management, government and even union workers every time they come to a negotiating table and insert themselves into what should be a negotiation between an employer and an employee. Our country is so broken, no problems ever really get fixed in labor negotiations, but NLRB bureaucrats work feverishly to hinder and slow commerce until all the wheels are greased and the skim is maximized for all Congress Critters (bribes and payoffs.)

BW just doesn’t like Charlene’s story because either she WAS the little sister or she left her own abused sister at home when she left.

TS
TS
  Maggie
February 3, 2018 12:15 pm

Yep, that’s the one.

Billah's wife
Billah's wife
  Maggie
February 3, 2018 8:34 am

Oh mah gawd, Mags where der yer come up with these bizarre personal anercdotes? It’s like yer readin cheap romance novels all day and distillin a whole gawd dammed surbplot inter 1 too long ramblin post. I thought yer goal was ter be less annoying.

Grog
Grog
  hardscrabble farmer
February 2, 2018 12:52 pm

I agree with most of your assessment. However, I’d not pin the beginning to the current central private bank. For example, to state that WW I’s beginning was caused by the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, is an over simplification at best and perhaps somewhat dishonest. For those who may chased a trout stream to its origins, all too often one will find smaller and smaller multiple trickles of water that seem to be manifest from nothing more than damp soft ground.

To be sure, the creation of another central bank in 1913 was a “shot in the arm” for the Federal Government, as much as it was a poison pill for the ‘citizenry’. History is prologue, remember the National Banking Acts of 1863 and 1864 and other Acts that proceeded them?

But, to examine the origins what one may today call ‘The Left’, ‘Liberals’, ‘Progressives’, etc., is to walk on damp oozing territories, and they are manifold.

IMO, at least with respect to these origins in the US, you might remember the self-proclaimed Progressive Theodore Roosevelt, his successor Taft and then W. Wilson. Teddy groomed Taft and when Taft didn’t carry the water, Teddy decided to run again, only this time while cleaving the republican party. A new party was named the Bull Moose party.

To that end, the platform called for:
Strict limits and disclosure requirements on political campaign contributions
Registration of lobbyists
Recording and publication of Congressional committee proceedings
In the social sphere, the platform called for:
A national health service to include all existing government medical agencies.
Social Insurance to provide for the elderly, the unemployed, and the disabled
Limited the ability of judges to order injunctions to limit labor strikes.
A minimum wage law for women
An eight-hour work day
A federal securities commission
Farm relief
Worker’s compensation for work-related injuries
An inheritance tax
The political reforms proposed included:
Women’s suffrage
Direct election of Senators
Primary elections for state and federal nominations
Easier amending of the United States Constitution
The platform also urged states to adopt measures for “direct democracy”, including:
The recall election (citizens may remove an elected official before the end of his term)
The referendum (citizens may decide on a law by popular vote)
The initiative (citizens may propose a law by petition and enact it by popular vote)
Judicial recall (when a court declares a law unconstitutional, the citizens may override that ruling by popular vote).

Any of this sound familiar?

bon
bon
  hardscrabble farmer
February 5, 2018 7:55 am

Excellent summation hardscrabble farmer we have all been hoping for years and demanding since Trump’s 2016 campaign for “”something that follows the script of the Q saga- a long, drawn out, meticulously planned and precisely executed “lawful”deconstruction of the entire administrative framework””

It is the best of your three scenarios, the most obvious common sense solution given Trump is our beach head in DC. But it is not right to call it “the Q script” although I understand you did it for the sake of brevity.

Q-anon has simply taken the temperature and mirrored the tone of the American people and Trump’s Campaign 2016 to glean all the core elements of OUR script. Q’s dubious talent lies in attributing our plan / Trump’s plan for justice and cleansing to himself and in Q’s illegal surveillance of Team Trump (aka “predictive” skills) and his creative writing skills in providing known alternative explanations of publicly known data points and the invention of often unprovable “behind the scenes revelations” in the style of that other Ben Fulford like fruitcake, Sasha Fall.

Q tells us what we already know an awful lot. Nothing wrong with re-enforcement of the known unless it is just a mirroring tactic being used against us.

I really hope this psy-op comes unstuck sooner rather than later because Trump’s real achievements do not deserve to be mocked with Q level hope porn virtually assuring us that “fear not my child, daddy’s got this, we can’t lose” … Just pull up a chair and “enjoy”.

It’s not right.

Maggie
Maggie
  bon
February 5, 2018 8:48 am

Noted. You sound legit.

TS
TS
February 2, 2018 9:17 am

Hm. So, the glove comes off one hand and goes on the other.
IF this has any truth to it, ‘military coup’ – or some bizarre derivative – comes to mind.
Nothing goes according to plan once the first bullet flies.

James
James
February 2, 2018 9:31 am

Do you ever feel like you went down a rabbit hole to a crazy tea party where the tea was spiked with LSD?I really do not know how this will play out if at all,the best we can do as a people of this country is try on any level we are at to do the right thing and help others,work locally to improve the lives of those you choose to live with in your region,prep for tomorrow while living for today ect.

I would say beyond the eo’s,this article may contain complete truth or be a work of fiction/purposeful distraction,look for and watch what the other hand is doing.

BeeUrSelf
BeeUrSelf
February 2, 2018 9:36 am

IS, I appreciate your continued data on Q, etc.

There will be military tribunals – known fact. I have a source, just wait and see for you non-believers.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  BeeUrSelf
February 2, 2018 10:34 am

Watchin’ and waitin’. Hope you’re right.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  BeeUrSelf
February 2, 2018 3:10 pm

Sure you do, nutter.

Iconoclast421
Iconoclast421
February 2, 2018 9:40 am

Some frickin judge in San Francisco will block the use of tribunals. And then just out of spite he will order another $50 billion to be given to illegals.

Persnickety
Persnickety
  Iconoclast421
February 2, 2018 10:37 am

Maybe. And maybe said unknown person will then be abducted by marines, or have a “meteorite” land on his house while he’s sleeping. Who knows.

rainbird
rainbird
  Persnickety
February 2, 2018 2:49 pm

I have been hoping that the chink satellite would land on Obomber.

mike
mike
  Iconoclast421
February 2, 2018 10:49 am

And win a free trip to Gitmo?

RS
RS
  Iconoclast421
February 2, 2018 10:51 am

No judge will have the power or ability to nullify a military tribunal.

Fail, Iconoclast.

Persnickety
Persnickety
  RS
February 2, 2018 11:31 am

Legally speaking no judge has the power to override foreign policy decisions made by the President, including barring suspected terrorists from entry into the USA.

How’s that law working for you?

Rise Up
Rise Up
  Persnickety
February 3, 2018 5:37 pm

Persnick, did you miss the SC decision in favor of the Trump Admin on that? He won.

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Maggie
Maggie
  Iconoclast421
February 5, 2018 8:52 am

So, what about some frickin judge in San Francisco? When does someone with a PAIR point out to the disconnected judiciary that they are violating the LAW?

K Vizzle
K Vizzle
February 2, 2018 9:40 am

Sounds great, but also sounds like a fairy tale.

mike
mike
  K Vizzle
February 2, 2018 10:51 am

Kind of like the rest of “His Story”?

Teri
Teri
February 2, 2018 9:51 am

One of the things that makes me a believer in all this is “flying at 40,000 feet” and observing what’s going on outside of the Q stuff: Trump making a sincere effort to keep campaign promises; Trump (surprisingly!) respecting the separation of powers; Trump’s reception all over the world and even at Davos (all the while, our nooz media telling us that he is an embarrassment, a buffoon, a Russian stooge, 100% hated world-wide); Trump repeatedly saying he’s giving OUR government back to US.

And then there’s Scott Adams’ stellar analysis of Trump’s persuasion accumen.

I live near the naval base in Norfolk, Virginia and in the past couple of weeks, lots of helicopter activity day and night, just like the days after 9/11. It would be hard to convince me that something yuge isn’t about to go down.

Mercy Otis Warren
Mercy Otis Warren
February 2, 2018 9:51 am

To anyone who is even remotely interested in the concept of liberty and the example of a nonviolent Christ, this whole Q business should cause some major pause and consternation. While the idea of a divinely inspired Boondock Saint like smashing of evil is no doubt evocative, you have to ask whether it would be self defeating. It is Sun Tzu meeting Machiavelli. It is using the enemies tactics to defeat the enemy. It is claiming that the same God who gave us sacrificial love in the form of his only son is also giving us deceitful and manipulative revenge as an avenue to exact justice. These two avenues can not be reconciled.

If you are not a Christian and your goal is to avoid pain and live as long as possible, then Sun and Machiavelli are your men, but those tactics are inconsistent with a Christian ethos.

As for the legality of military tribunals: any lawyer worth his salt knows that it does not really matter whether it is legal or not. Anything can be made “legal” and anything can be made “illegal”. All it takes is some smarmy legislator; an over imaginative judge or an arbitrarily zealous prosecutor. Whether or not military tribunals square with liberty and what is left of the idea of due process is another question — which I think has to answered in the negative.

Military tribunals are infamous for being kangaroo courts. The verdict is decided before hand and the proceedings are then shaped such that the desired result is attained. Civil courts ain’t much better, but they are a little bit. The whole discussion reminds me of the following dialogue from “A Man for All Seasons” :

William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!

Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?

William Roper: Yes, I’d cut down every law in England to do that!

Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned ’round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man’s laws, not God’s! And if you cut them down, and you’re just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I’d give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety’s sake!

I have no idea if Q is real, but I am not sure it even matters. So what happened when Comey was fired? Chris Christie’s personal attorney and a life long insider was appointed. What happens if Rosenstein and Mueller go down too? We will probably get Michael Cohen and Patrick Fitzgerald and around and around we will go. Are we going to put our hope in Trey Gowdy? Wasn’t it his investigation that largely exonerated HRC in the Benghazi affair? What is Trump doing about the Fed? More of the same as far as I can see. What is he doing about the MIC? Putting them in charge of the country as far as I can see. I hate to be a Debbie-downer and I pray I am wrong, but the hope escapes me at this point.

mike
mike
  Mercy Otis Warren
February 2, 2018 11:42 am

The meek shall inherit the earth – and – be in community together, in commie sponsored mass graves.

Everything the 3rd Reich did was LEGAL. And Stalin. And Mao. And all the other collectivist religionists. Even the 1000 A.D. genocide in India by Islamic Law. (http://www.nairaland.com/2120460/islamic-invasion-india-greatest-genocide)

Perhaps we need do do away with Written Whim pretending to be the sacred Law? Start a OneLaw movement based on the ZAP; the principle we all learned at 5 yrs old – Don’t Hit Other People And Take Their Stuff? As we abolish the old and bring in the new, will all these Machiavellian Machinations end? Or be reduced to ghetto battles that no one pays attention to?

Mercy Otis Warren
Mercy Otis Warren
  mike
February 2, 2018 1:43 pm

Perhaps the meek would end up in Commie sponsored mass graves, but the point isn’t really where you end up in this life: “If anyone would come after Me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow Me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will save it. What will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, yet loses or forfeits his very self?”

Regrettably my faith isn’t strong enough to bury my guns (metaphorically speaking of course). I just have a hard time rationalizing that anything other than that is required (presuming of course a faith in the Christian God)

Your last paragraph is a good question; don’t know what the answer is though I know what I hope it is. I can’t imagine ghetto battles can get any worse than incinerating a quarter million souls on 2 afternoons, but I guess you never know.

Gayle
Gayle
  Mercy Otis Warren
February 3, 2018 10:16 am

Christ was humble, but not meek. He must have exuded great strength. Remember that he lashed out in physical rage towards the money changers at the temple.

TS
TS
  Gayle
February 3, 2018 6:10 pm

You misunderstand meek. It does not mean weak. It means power under control, or enduring injury with patience. That kind of stuff. Proper Submission, as in submission to the Father’s will. NOT weak.

messianicdruid
messianicdruid
  TS
February 4, 2018 10:40 am

Thank You for clearing that up.

A picture of meek is a large horse wearing a bridle. You are the horse, the teachings of Christ are the bridle. The reins can be tied to a post [ your ‘leaders ], just hanging down or in your own hands.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mike
February 2, 2018 3:13 pm

This sorry would be improved with a zombie plot. Good call. Maybe a bunch of car chases too.

Robert (QSLV)
Robert (QSLV)
  Mercy Otis Warren
February 2, 2018 12:32 pm

“Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.”
Jesus Christ

Robert (QSLV)

Maggie
Maggie
  Mercy Otis Warren
February 5, 2018 9:02 am

Certainly well-reasoned concerns for someone red-pilled and also washed in some blood: certainly the irony has struck you?

You said “It is claiming that the same God who gave us sacrificial love in the form of his only son is also giving us deceitful and manipulative revenge as an avenue to exact justice. These two avenues can not be reconciled. ”

I really, really like that sentiment and will credit it to you in the TBP Lexicon with quotable quotes addendum. Do you want to be known as Mercy, as Full Name or as MOW?

Now, the second sentence of the quote I believe is completely wrong and can be repaired by removing the word “not.”

Why did Joshua and Caleb enter Jericho prior to bringing the wall down?

Maggie
Maggie
  Maggie
February 5, 2018 9:08 am

By the way, I like MOW because of the great potential it offers for comparing the secular with the divine (via rhyme schemes) to show that truth may set one free but its twin, justice, does not always operate in the light.

Marian
Marian
February 2, 2018 10:01 am

As much as I would like to see heads roll, not sure I’m down with military tribunals. Quite frankly the military seems just as corrupt as it’s fellow deep state players.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Marian
February 2, 2018 11:35 am

You don’t think the left obstruction istas don’t have members in their ranks who wear black robes that think above the Constitution?
Ninth circuit out west, besides ones in DC?
The rats have infested every room in the mansion.

javelin
javelin
February 2, 2018 10:03 am

If we look back at where we were 3 months ago–my how the pendulum has swung!

We had a MSM and the leftists acting as if they had the legal POTUS practically in manacles. The Russia narrative was non-stop and some toadies that had even the slightest connection to the POTUS and Russia ( no matter how slight, legal or decades old) were being indicted and subpoenaed for the tiniest of issues.

Q posts started coming out telling us not to despair. Telling us that really, really big, HUGELY big things were going on in the background. All of the sudden active players of the corruption were disappearing. The big faces like Abedin, Jarrett, BHO, Podestas etc who were commenting daily like sharks who smelled blood have seemed to vanish from public view. Brazile and others have come out and tried to distance themselves and even some spooks like McCabe have hastily resigned.

The big tell is that the dems now look like mourners instead of their usual, pompous and smug, chin-lifted and smirking elites that they beliee themselves to be. The narrative has shifted from attack, attack and bogus lying to spin control, obfuscation and efforts to distance or defend themselves.

I HOPE we get military tribunals but I can hear the Nazi accusations already. So what! We are all called Nazis anyhow so maybe the left’s constant name-calling of Americans will work against them. We have become so accustomed to the monikers that they have lost their power.
A military tribunal will be the only way we could get a non-partisan judicial decision on punishment for those involved. The fact that the DOJ, FBI etc are involved almost MANDATES that a military tribunal be used to avoid any conflicts of interest ( the DOJ can’t prosecute their own fairly.)

Mercy Otis Warren
Mercy Otis Warren
  javelin
February 2, 2018 10:17 am

Where does this faith in the alleged nonpartisan, conflict of interest free objectivity of the military come from? They have invested interests just like the rest of those involved and they are serial abusers of life and liberty—to boot. So why the confidence in them?

javelin
javelin
  Mercy Otis Warren
February 2, 2018 10:35 am

Because they are equal opportunity abusers–they war whether it is a Dem or Neo-cons in charge. I am talking about a non-partisan justice. Obviously every institution and individual has self interests.

Mercy Otis Warren
Mercy Otis Warren
  javelin
February 2, 2018 11:14 am

“equal opportunity abusers” …. I like that; well said. I do not however think the military is any more likely to dispense justice than civil authorities. Rather I think them less likely as warring is generally inconsistent with righteousness. But I guess we will see.

Maggie
Maggie
  Mercy Otis Warren
February 5, 2018 9:18 am

The problem with trusting even the most honorable military leaders is that once their advice and counsel has proven successful on the beachfront and a functioning base of operations has been established to negotiate further with the “enemy” to resolve disputes, the military function should be set aside.

But, having called upon the faithful guardian to save ones country, that guardian starts to seek out the next foe in advance, wanting nothing more than to be the best guardian of its master as it possibly can. Like any territorial hound, possessive of its herd, the military guard naturally patrols the boundaries of the territory and beyond for hint of threat.

The problem with the military folks is that they are so damned military.

Maggie
Maggie
  Mercy Otis Warren
February 5, 2018 9:10 am

Again, MOW, an astuteness worth noting.

Doug
Doug
  javelin
March 16, 2018 4:33 pm

They are still commenting of course the fake Q follows think aliens replaced them while the real people are being beaten in Gitmo.
Non of what Q says is going to happen of course a good conspiracy theory is better than the truth

Read the Bible people don’t get wrapped around conspiracy junk

Mountain Farmer Woman
Mountain Farmer Woman
February 2, 2018 10:05 am

I think the tide is turning in our favor after 100 years of corruption. I tend to believe what Q says. Of course, no one knows for sure until we see what the future brings.

Maggie
Maggie
  Mountain Farmer Woman
February 5, 2018 9:25 am

One of the interesting things about this “place” is the emergence and settlement into place of regulars whose commentary is click-worthy.

Now, think about being click-worthy. I was your tenth thumb. In a world where everything is all about the clicks, my “stopping by a sub-comment on a chilly morning” and actually giving a damn AND commenting makes you a very interesting commenter, imho.

Of course, now that I’ve said that… coyote ugly will head this way and dump a big ugly turd on my attempt to make friends with another of the TBP regulars who may or may not be a girl.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Maggie
February 5, 2018 11:55 am

What the heck are you doing encouraging a noob who thinks things are turning in her favor after 100 years of corruption? If it has been going on that long, and I don’t doubt it, then corruption is normal. there is no turning back to a long forgotten ethic. We have to wait and see what other profundities we get from Mountain Mamma. https://youtu.be/Tk4F-sDqF2Q

Maggie
Maggie
  Anonymous
February 5, 2018 12:10 pm

I hope you didn’t forget to wipe your ass after dumping on my comment. And don’t use any of MY toilet paper.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Maggie
February 5, 2018 12:19 pm

I thought those were called corncobs.

overthecliff
overthecliff
February 2, 2018 10:23 am

Military Tribunals should make the people of TBP very afraid. Suspending the Constitution will not create a slippery slope but a ski Jump with boulders at the bottom. Whether Q is real or not makes little difference. I don’t want Trump to have power that I wouldn’t trust to Obama.

I want those SOB’s to go to prison but it has to be done right. They already have TBP on a list.

RS
RS
  overthecliff
February 2, 2018 10:58 am

“Suspending the Constitution will not create a slippery slope but a ski Jump with boulders at the bottom.”
——
It’s already suspended due to the National Emergency declared in the 12/21/17 E.O.

mike
mike
  RS
February 2, 2018 12:22 pm

2017??? I thought the War Powers Act was in 1917. Renewed an abused every since.

Tony
Tony
  RS
February 2, 2018 4:46 pm

I’m pretty sure we have been in a national state of emergency since Bush Jr as 911.

Greg in NC
Greg in NC
  overthecliff
February 2, 2018 11:11 am

I’m not worried that military tribunals will be held against us everyday working class “US citizens”. What would be the point? TPTB can get the same outcome from the phony and corrupt judicial system they have created.

If a US citizen is in a position of power to use the military and military assets or pay such people, for the purpose of treason, sedition, amass personal wealth, etc, then a tribunal is just and warranted.

If our society is so far gone that our “leaders” need to use the military to take us little guys out then really, nothing matters.

NtroP
NtroP
  overthecliff
February 2, 2018 2:20 pm

overthecliff,

“They already have TBP on a list.”
You don’t really think Admin would give up our email addresses while being tortured, do you?

Morkus
Morkus
  overthecliff
February 3, 2018 4:13 pm

Good discussion. The apparent choices here remind me of ‘The War of the Gods and Demons’ from Chesterton’s Everlasting Man. The Romans were bad but the Carthaginian s were even worse.

Maggie
Maggie
  overthecliff
February 5, 2018 9:36 am

I’m not sure if a tribunal would operate the same as a courts-martial, but if so, there are many benefits to having a tribunal.

For one, being military minded theoretically imparts an objective quality to the thinking of members of the panel, forcing the questions of sedition, treason and other national level crimes to rise to the “clear and present danger” level. Theoretically. Politics is hard to remove completely, especially in military lawyers immersed in bureaucratic and administrative law. So, yes, the same qualities that give a tribunal benefit over public courtroom offer other unintended consequences once those benefits are realized.

BB
BB
February 2, 2018 10:30 am

Anonymous ,red tube is a Porn site not that I watch it.
I just said what others have said and still all those down votes.As long as the enemy Controls the Banking System they can buy what ever and who ever they want .I hope Indents imaginary friend turns out to be the real deal but I still have my doubts about any of these​ people being put in jail.Look at the Clinton’s crooks.Look at the crimes these people have committed and still free as a ?.

javelin
javelin
  BB
February 2, 2018 10:40 am

This what my wife says also–no big names will go to jail and the hardcore leftists in the populace will just slip into cognitive dissonance ( “not true” ” I don’t believe it” yada yada). At least this will show some of the fence sitters how corrupt the DNC is and also will finally end this Russian nonsense.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  javelin
February 5, 2018 11:49 am

What kind of authority does the wife have that you have to cite her?
My pet parakeet is an authority on these matters and it it his considered opinion that…

Ottomatik
Ottomatik
February 2, 2018 10:41 am

The effectiveness of Military Tribunals in establishing post event cohesion will be directly linked to the Truth Bombs that come out and how those truths are transmitted to the public.
It could go very badly with little to no buy in, Deep State minions in the media could possibly control the narrative and the entire show will go down as an attempted Nazi coup, with The Resistance mobilizing hordes of Communist street fighters, well funded, and motivated.
Alternatively, a host of hard core Truth Bombs could be unleashed, building on the momentum of the alternative media, and effectively displacing the MSM. I really think the lynchpin would have to be 911, as that would march the Bush family in front of the tribunals as well. If the Clinton AND Bush crime families were to be taken down, the push back from the street would be limited.
This seems to be the key, bipartisan clean up, in the dialectic, this would allow a lasting synthesis.
Unfortunately, the Bush family has gone to ground, awfully quiet, and not really on any radars. If they are able to weather the storm, I fear the odds of failure to be seriously elevated.

I cant Thank You enough for the updates, so..Thanks Much IS and T4C, with the standard qualifier, it has been a great ride even if all or mostly cosplay.

Montefrío
Montefrío
February 2, 2018 10:42 am

The constant “Q” theme called to mind a song sung by one “Q Lazzarus”, one that some readers may recall from “Silence of the Lambs”, although the lyrics are suggestive in some peculiar way of what’s been going on in the West for quite some time now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKFaGDrOfrI

Cricket
Cricket
  Montefrío
February 2, 2018 12:38 pm

Oh sure, from the scene when Buffalo Bill puts on make-up, dances and quails for the camera.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1dTQh5RST0

Loved it when Jay and Silent Bob paid tribute to that scene in Clerks 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bLy26TwtyI

As for Family Guy’s take, not so much…

curtmilr
curtmilr
February 2, 2018 10:48 am

Q has proven himself legit to me.

That said, the great thinker Mike Tyson once said, “Everybody has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth!”

Well, the punches are flying if only secretly. The change in demeanor of the participants, and tone of the formerly ascendant is palpable. Only the MSM remains largely unchanged, until this week. And now even they have started to break ranks.

I have some disease regarding the appearance of a military junta as well. But so long as they visibly defer to the appropriate political authority, I can be cool with it. There ARE rogue elements of the military as well, and the CIA has an off the books military capability, but the President has more by a many times multiple.

Taking the Saudi money away from the Dems was the first step. They’ve since squeezed here, and squeezed there, and watched as the rats scurried about. The NSA has every cell phone, email, and text where they tried to coordinate counter measures. Thus Trump has always been two steps ahead of them. The conspirators are now down to burner phones, hand written notes, and face to face planning sessions. But who’s wearing a wire???

Make the popcorn!! This Show is going to be great!!!

Old Krank
Old Krank
February 2, 2018 12:08 pm

I have absolutely no qualms about using military tribunals to try these scumbags for sedition and treason. The culprits have placed themselves and their cronies above the law; hence, there is no law, nor, by extension, justice – save in your own minds. The communists/progressives COUNT ON your adherence to “the law” – every stupid, incoherent, illogical, and immoral one of them, passed, ignored, and scoffed at by those very same progressives and communists.

And when, if left unchecked and unpunished, these bastards make it illegal BY LAW for you to own firearms or property, or work in certain industries, associate with whom you will, or make it legal for others to steal from you without consequence (already happening; civil asset forfeiture, confiscatory taxation rates, .gov fees and fines for administrative violations of victimless crimes), discriminate against you based on your gender (of which there are two, according to anyone’s chromosomes) or the color of your skin (white males), or push you into a cattle car headed for the ‘re-education camp’, will you THEN comply with “the law”?

Heck maybe you’ll write to your congresscritter to have them strike down all of these immoral and unjust laws; they’ve done such a good job at doing so in the past.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
February 2, 2018 12:11 pm

Roy Potter has gotten much better at his youtube presentations. The last two were very well done albeit long.

Oh, I see the memo just came out. They should have released it yesterday, I think. Let’s see what it says.

BB, I think you have closed your mind. That is never a good idea.

BL
BL
February 2, 2018 12:22 pm

ATTENTION TBP:
NEWS FLASH.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Drudge is reporting MEMO RELEASED……….developing.

SemperFido
SemperFido
February 2, 2018 12:24 pm

Q said early in the crumb trail that the corruption was so pervasive that using the military during a short term martial law period was the only way to take it out.
There has been a behind the scenes group of active and past mil working together since the time in the last administration when they tried to emp us with our own nukes and it was thwarted by an admiral and two generals. (This was at the time when Lyndsey Graham said we needed to bomb Syria or Charlottesville would be nuked. )

Maggie
Maggie
February 2, 2018 12:46 pm

This is astonishing to see ongoing in real time.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
February 2, 2018 1:10 pm

Indentured, I might be misunderstanding this part:

“All pieces are now in place to start taking the pieces off the board. The financial action authority to freeze their funds was issued on Dec. 17th. The authorization to start detaining them was issued just before the SOTU and ensured Gitmo would be available. But who pays attention to EO’s these days?

Instead, everyone will be talking about the SOTU address and the MEMO.”

Are you saying the memo is more of a distraction than the main event?
That maybe things going on today through the weekend might be the real issue while everyone is fighting of what this memo means?

Daniel
Daniel
February 2, 2018 1:38 pm

Wake me up when people start being Ceaușescu’d.

JTwig
JTwig
February 2, 2018 3:01 pm

While hopeful, I won’t be holding my breath. Been burned to many times. That being said I will be taking inventory of my supplies and ammo, as no matter what happens I don’t expect it to be pretty or quick.

A quick add: Did anyone else see the news about the DNC donations drying up, and having a negative balance? Maybe I’m looking for connections, but it does lend credence.

Mark
Mark
February 2, 2018 3:16 pm

My cudo’s as well to IS & T4C for all the intell, thanks.

This post was riveting and as I just finished it and the comments to this point, all my serious thunder has already rumbled…by more booming thinkers from TBP artillery then I.

Is it me or are all the Bursting Bubble drum beats pounding louder and louder. Bonner (once again) warning about Bonds, etc. etc. etc. Stocks tumbling… wouldn’t a pre-tribunal desperate move by the Deep Sewer be to POP the Everything Bubble ASAP be a possible tactic? Distract, delay, overwhelm with crisis…not a FF…a frigg’in massive economic crash…like soon?

I have some hard cash stashed for a last minute buying spree if the SHTF implosion has begun (of course for use after the plastic is no good).

My wife has her list and I mine…if we think it has actually started.

Andrea Iravani
Andrea Iravani
February 2, 2018 3:46 pm

Hilarious! So the military first must send itself through its Tribunal for supporting Al Qaeda, which they kept renaming! Clusterfucks exploding every minute!

America is Doomed Because the Mentally Deranged and Morally Deficient Are In Control

America Is Doomed Because the Mentally Deranged and Morally Deficient Are In Control

Robert Gore
Robert Gore
February 2, 2018 4:46 pm

Indentured Servant asked for comments from lawyers. Here’s one.

Pure fantasy.

Not a chance in the world you can accuse people of launching a coup and then try them before military tribunals. You wouldn’t want to live in a country where that could happen. They’re called banana republics (see Turkey).

Read the House Intelligence Committee memo. It’s a good memo–very legalistic, as it correctly confines itself to assertions backed by plenty of evidence. It deals exclusively with the FISA court petitions for surveillance of Carter Page. There are no broadstroke conspiracy theories, no speculation on coups, just the ascertainable facts about legally questionable, and probably illegal, actions of indentified individuals within the FBI and DOJ. Ideally, that’s the way the law works, although in actually it only works like that when potential defendants are high profile individuals able to afford top-notch legal counsel. That is the case here.

People are looking for masterstrokes and magic wands. They won’t happen; this isn’t Hollywood. If Trump gets 8 years as president, my guess is that some of the legal preceedings from these matters will still be dragging on when he takes his last ride on Air Force One.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  IndenturedServant
February 3, 2018 7:24 am

So,

Donald Trump, whether you like him or not, (I do), an egomaniac of giant proportions, fighting for his political life, taking credit for MAGA and turning our country around, is going to fucking CRASH all the markets and our economy ON FUCKING PURPOSE, by imposing military tribunals and arresting the leaders of his political opposition?????

You’re a loon.

Andrea Iravani
Andrea Iravani
  Robert Gore
February 2, 2018 7:52 pm

I agree Robert Gore! The military is granted zero powers in the constitution! The laws passed calling for military tribunals were illegal, just as all of the surveillance laws are!

Rise Up
Rise Up
  Robert Gore
February 3, 2018 6:11 pm

Q’s drops below mentions how bringing HRC or Obozo into a civilian trail would be useless due to tainted and corrupt judges and juries. So obviously they are thinking military tribunals.

If Q is to be taken seriously, and is within spittin’ distance of Trump, that’s the direction they will go.
———–
Jan 27 2018 02:29:48
Q !UW.yye1fxo ID: 9400a1
175503
Note the last drops on the other board.
Think logically.
Refer to past crumbs.
YOU HAVE MORE THAN YOU KNOW.
Do you expect HRC, GS, Hussein, etc to stand in a PUBLIC courtroom w/ potential crooked judges and tainted ‘liberal’ juries?
How do you defuse a bomb?
Knowledge of which wires/strings to cut?
Q

RHS Jr
RHS Jr
February 2, 2018 5:15 pm

The Federal Courts are so crooked it will take Military Tribunals to clear the Traitors from them.

Andrea Iravani
Andrea Iravani
  RHS Jr
February 2, 2018 7:55 pm

The military is just as corrupt, if not more! Supporting ISIS and importing heroin is total proof!

SemperFido
SemperFido
  Andrea Iravani
February 2, 2018 8:20 pm

Andrea you are confusing regular military with the CIA forces and clandestine air. The active duty pilots were incensed that they were ordered to drop their pickles out in the fields and not on top of ISIS.
Please don’t blame the poor slobs in the Big Green Machine for the criminality of the Clowns In Action.

Andrea Iravani
Andrea Iravani
  SemperFido
February 2, 2018 9:18 pm

Lol. Except the evidence proves that it was the mimitary that did it. You must be in the military and hungry for a power grab, which is why you can’t have it! You can run for office if you’d like though.

Rdawg the fascist
Rdawg the fascist
  IndenturedServant
February 2, 2018 10:21 pm

It’s insane. It cannot reason. Ignore it.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Rdawg the fascist
February 3, 2018 12:08 am

Rdawg, I will gladly take one Iravani in trade for 10 barking seals.
She is digging, those fuckers won’t hunt.
She is scoping out the puppetmasters.
The barking seals keep going for the DACA and illegals sideshow.

Andrea Iravani
Andrea Iravani
  EL Coyote
February 3, 2018 1:40 pm

Thanks El Coyote! Very sweet of you! Never heard the song before. My dog liked it. The guys in the video look really threatening and scary! Lol!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Rdawg the fascist
February 5, 2018 11:04 am

Andrea beware of Rdawg:
https://youtu.be/C3zQ_cZ29jc

Tony
Tony
February 2, 2018 5:37 pm

Very intriguing! I sure do want to believe all of it but some of it just seems too far-fetched. I do believe that the 12/21 EO has had an impact on the donation fund circuit and is hurting the left in a painful way. I’m not convinced that Hussain had anything to do with the Atlantic AP incident, it doesn’t make sense to me. Absolutely we should expect more and bigger false flags to occur though, but that is a no brainer, especially now that the memo is out and the corruption is more out in the open than ever.

I keep hearing about all these sealed indictments, and the number keeps going up but it is now over 10k. So what are they waiting on? Our courts are already overwhelmed so slamming this huge number out seems a bit odd. If that is what they are going to do with GITMO, great but over 10k, how will that work?

Keep reporting on it here though, there are some very interesting things going on, no doubt about it.

digitalpennmedia
digitalpennmedia
February 2, 2018 6:45 pm

I absolutely do love the take on the coverage that the author conducts, it is better than any spy novel could ever be; in the end though … rumors and whispers are just that until there is an actual, visual, tangible resolution. I really think the “blow me” part at the end is quite the capper… generally the same thing leftists twits say when trashing on some GOP member only its … “dont even respond because I dont give a shit what you think” .. . Now that is encouraging intellectual dialogue to piece together others ideas to get a picture of what is going on. But hey, since the author has it all figured out, obviously he is in the know and privy to much more that simple hear say as a third, fourth, fifth party observer trying to piece together crumbs…oh wait…no thats exactly what you are.

Folks who are sources can say what they will and fill in the blanks (or posit info that may fill in the blanks), but given 3 in the Cabinet were bad guys … who is to say what others are playing both sides? Thats what spooks do (CIA). Is the information you want to believe, the info you are being fed by other source, what you are intended to believe?

It reminds me of the Revolutionary War during which many many were loyal to the crown and one could not trust a neighbor or govt official … but both sides put out exactly the propaganda needed to garner support (in some cases turning the tide of drowned spirits to victory).

What is evident is that yes, something is going on and their is a power struggle; however if anyone was to actually take a good look at those EO and the implications of those powers of those that have ruled you should be scared shitless. Yes for now people believe Trump is the benevolent ruler … but those powers could be turned and used on ANYONE at ANYTIME … those powers are dictatorial and if Trump does decide to be an Andrew Jackson in the Battle of New Orleans and return the power to the people then those powers would also need to eventually be scrubbed.

Cheer for now, but if the train derailment is any indication … this may be on Americas doorstep soon enough and the frothing crowd may not be so happy then for what happens if death is the sentence for treason for the enemy combatants?

Maggie
Maggie
  digitalpennmedia
February 5, 2018 11:24 am

And just who determines who qualifies as “enemy combatant?”

Shinmen Takezo
Shinmen Takezo
February 2, 2018 7:39 pm

I’ve been keeping an eye on this Jesus Ninny named Mark Taylor who “prophesied” (due to a alleged direct phone call from Jesus) back in 2015 (I believe) that ‘Donald Trump would become president’ –okay I’ll give him that one… and I could have also made the prophesy along those time lines that anytime that Donald Trump decided to run for president in the last 20 years, the guy would have won hands down. No problemo.

Now Taylor seems to have an ongoing personal email address of Jesus himself with a long line of further prophesy–little of which I can take seriously because the man has now become more prolific that old Joesph Smith founder of the LDS Church.

But Taylor has come out with another prophesy/prediction which runs along the lines of the theme of the OP’s article of “military tribunals.”

Here see for yourself…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe3k0rlSLsk

So let’s assume that Jesus is in fact emailing Mark Taylor and that Qannon is right on the money as well…. let’s take that line of thought.

Putting aside all the legal mumbo-jumbo and executive orders presented in the OP’s article as just wishful thinking (which it would be BTW)…. what exactly would bring about the need for “military style tribunals” in this country? Hummmm!?

If you stripped away all the bullshit and laid all the cards out on the table for all to see, you will find that all the names in this conspiracy-chart drawn by our hero “Matt Bracken” are just the tip of the iceberg so to speak.

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These guy above surrounding Trump and conducting the conspiracy are just the ‘facilitators’ who are in governmental positions who can actually pull levers of government to achieve a specific goal. Which each name you see above–there are most likely a dozen or more willing co-conspirators below them in the FBI and intelligence agencies doing the ‘dirty work’ for the guys at the top.

Why? Because the guys at the top are the elites and lazy–and they don’t like breaking a sweat and getting their fingers dirty. Oh–as mentioned in leaks so far, they met ‘off campus’ to discuss the plot… and later on let their minions and lowers in their agencies do the actual dirty work. So when you hear conservative say “this crisis only involves leaders/top official in the named agencies” –they are bullshitting you completely.

Further more… who are these top officials in these agencies pulling the levers of government exactly for? Is it just themselves banding together in an “Omega Force” to stop evil Donald Trump? Or are they acting on the behalf of moneyed interests higher in the food chains of commerce and international government? I believe the last statement to be true–and that this conspiracy goes up much further than the DNC, the FISA courts and governmental officials. Much higher.

I also believe that when these conspirators met off campus in those ‘secret society’ meetings–I firmly believe that members/ representatives of the media/news organizations where there working hand-in-hand in a seamless effort with the DC wonks to bring down the Trump administration. There is and there is still no ongoing coincidence that MSM talking points dovetail exactly and on cue every night for the last year since the election. If you believe so, you are delusional.

What you are witnessing is a large conspiracy of multiple actors to commit ‘sedition’ and to overthrow a legally elected government and president–you even have people from the president’s own party who were part of this conspiracy… see today John McCain (the phony war hero and psychopath) and his comments he made about the released Nunes memo. See also McCain’s walking the phony dossier and hand delivering it to the FBI like a little lap dog last year… he was letting himself be used as a vehicle to lend credence to this phony, tossed up Fusion document.

So just what would cause or bring about the need to use military tribunals?

Perhaps with the further and oncoming revelations (the memo is only the tip of the iceberg FYI) will lead directly into the NSA and CIA involvement in attempting to overthrow the election…. so much so that “they/them” behind these organizations will be pushed over the edge and attempt an actual ‘hard, violent coup” against President Trump using some renegade Generals and military-ish spec-ops contractors who would be paid millions by the real moneyed interests behind this conspiracy… and also promised the moon should they succeed.

The real moneyed interests who want Trump out of power are the same moneyed interests that will stand to loose tens of trillions of dollars (over the next generation) over these trade deals that President is slashing to bits. They will no longer be able to directly ‘economically strip mine the USA’ as has been done for the last three decades (or more). The money/gravy train is so vast that is is practically incomprehensible to the average schmuck. These international mega-corporations and countries will be tossed off of Uncle Sam’s gravy train–and these are the true people who are pushing their bought and paid for politicians and deep state employees (who them put there for many generations now) into acting against this administration.

I believe that these interests will be pushed to far as to attempt an all out gamble where they will attempt a hard kinetic action/assassination against Donald Trump…. and if it fails–and most likely it will fail–there will be massive roundups of conspirators, from local and state politicians who will openly back and assist the coup live on CNN, up to generals, FBI, CIA and NSA personnel, up to elected politicians (on both sides of the isles) who will be seen to be in open rebellion and committing acts of treason and sedition for all to see in an undeniable manner.

When you see something like this unfolding (because it could indeed unfold in such a manner), you will also witness it crumble shortly thereafter (as likely it would when the III% types step out of the shadows and move into action) then in fact and indeed you will in fact see military style tribunals unfolding live on TV…. and those caught up in the roundups will not be limited to politicians, governmental wonks and so forth–it will in fact extend to those TV talking heads and corporate leaders of the MSN and into the dopes of Hollywood who will be seen cheering the coup along.

A hard coup attempt will bring about military style tribunals–actually a ‘counter-revolution’ involving loyal military and millions of ‘milita-of-one’ (forming into action groups) types will bring these DC conspirators to justice (with many not even making in front of military judges I believe).

“They/them” at the very top of the moneyed elite (see George Sorros as an open source of funds for this sedition) are at the breaking point–a desperation point. All their work over the last four decades is now being dismantled by Donald Trump.

What I described above may very well take place.
I would be nice if indeed they attempted such a coup.
The chances of them succeeding would be slim–the upside for people of our beliefs would be unlimited once they were crushed.

Mark
Mark
  Shinmen Takezo
February 2, 2018 9:44 pm

Here is Taylor’s Trump will be President prediction made on 04-28-11
https://www.sordrescue.com/uploads/4/7/7/9/47798703/04-28-11_commander_in_chief.pdf

Here are his others in brief PDF files:
https://www.sordrescue.com/prophetic-words.html

Shinmen Takezo
Shinmen Takezo
  Mark
February 2, 2018 10:10 pm

Thanks Mark–I was off with Taylor’s prophesy by four years.

But I am sticking with my assertion that he has a better contact with Jesus, than Joesph Smith did.

Mark
Mark
  Shinmen Takezo
February 2, 2018 10:42 pm

You bet man…so far no golden plates from Taylor!

The first time I heard about military tribunals was from him quite a while ago.

He comes across as humble, likable, proud of his blue collar and he seem to be the most optimistic of anyone claiming to hear from God. He seems to keep it within the short term future.

I like seeing Christian prophecy in dated short PDFs…as long as the words aren’t tortured or overly general. The ole tic tock will prove or disprove.

I’m not a skeptic about God talking to people…just skeptical about most who say He is.

That was a good post you put up. I have a III % mindset (confronted some Antifa types with an Oath Keeper group once) and have the three G’s to back it: guns, gear, and grit.

Shinmen Takezo
Shinmen Takezo
  Mark
February 3, 2018 12:06 am

As soon as Taylor comes out with a set of Golden Plates–that’s when I tune him out!
Not that I take him seriously now.

javelin
javelin
  Shinmen Takezo
February 3, 2018 7:24 am

The golden plates are useless without the magic goggles to read them I hear.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  javelin
February 3, 2018 3:49 pm

You need a couple of stones to help you transcribe them. Do you have a couple of stones?

Maggie
Maggie
  javelin
February 5, 2018 12:14 pm

I got a few in storage, canned with rabbit meat and quinoa.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Mark
February 3, 2018 3:47 pm

I read a couple of those transcripts. It was late at night and I got the willies, the kind you get when you watch too many 9/11 conspiracy videos. Today, I can offer this criticism: I have heard many prophetic sermons, they tend to sound like this guy. I don’t know if you have ever attended Stuck’s religion seminars, I think he’d tell you prophesies are stopped.

Look, he predicted Obama would lose in 2012. Fail.
He predicted Trump and Russia would unite to fight ISIS. Fail.
He predicted Trump would win big time with media support. No and yes.
Then he has god actually delving into politics, opposing the globalists and liberals.
He actually predicts there is a glorious future for America after the battle of Armageddon. Umm..

This sounds more like a preacher who has thrown in with a certain political party to be their dupe and useful idiot. Jezebel also had priests at her service, this is nothing new.

Undefeated
Undefeated
  Shinmen Takezo
February 2, 2018 10:37 pm

“A hard coup attempt will bring about military style tribunals–actually a ‘counter-revolution’ involving loyal military and millions of ‘milita-of-one’ (forming into action groups) types will bring these DC conspirators to justice..”

Perhaps then…., and maybe only then…, would we see Trump… truly…, take his tomahawk to town.

Mark
Mark
  Undefeated
February 2, 2018 10:46 pm

Somebody ought to work up a song:

“Donald…Take Your Tomahawk to Town!” (Kenny Rogers could sing it).

Shinmen Takezo
Shinmen Takezo
  Undefeated
February 3, 2018 12:12 am

Oh–Jeeze, you remember that thing I wrote last year.
To tell you the truth, I blasted it out (literally) after seeing the pussy grabbing video.
I saw right then and there what “they/them” were up to–and it was proven correct.

It was an orchestrated political/media attack designed to force Trump from the campaign, with someone ready to step in as the nominee. Fortunately Trump went the course and did not cave in.

This “Russian Collusion” bullshit is just phase two of this soft coup.
This is going to fail BTW and then they will go to Plan C… which I believe may be a hard coup.

And once this happens you will also see many GOP (so called) leaders coming forward to support it… like John McCain (Senator Psycho) and Lindsey Graham (Senator Sodomite), Flakey-Flake-Flake the Senator and others. You will wee RINO talking heads like Michael Medved all the way to Bill Kristol (the fuk-stain) yammering away that “all will be well” and “there is good reasons…” and so forth. When it happens ignore it all and grab your Glocks.

As a side note… I have been working up a new “Trump” article, but literally every other day something new breaks and changes the whole paradigm about him… so I delete what I wrote and try to come up with a new angle.

Mark
Mark
  Shinmen Takezo
February 3, 2018 1:29 pm

Shinmen Takezo…Outstanding!!!

4th Turner
4th Turner
  Shinmen Takezo
February 3, 2018 7:19 am

Great work ST! You’re in-depth comment is an example of commenter’s contributions being on par with the original posting. I look forward to hearing more from you in the comments or even as a poster here.

Rise Up
Rise Up
  4th Turner
February 3, 2018 6:21 pm

Good moniker…”4th Turner”!

Perfect for the TBP meme.

Andrea Iravani
Andrea Iravani
February 2, 2018 8:03 pm

Did anyone here post comments on my blog site under the name Robert Thomas from TBP ? Just curious due to the unusual nature of the comments.

SemperFido
SemperFido
  Andrea Iravani
February 2, 2018 8:28 pm

Unusual nature? What? Did they say that they actually liked you?

Andrea Iravani
Andrea Iravani
  SemperFido
February 2, 2018 9:20 pm

Well there is only one way to find out. Are you intelligent enough to figure that out all by youself!?

Andrea Iravani
Andrea Iravani
February 2, 2018 8:10 pm

Did anyone here post comments on my blog site under the name Robert Thomas from TBP ? Just curious due to the unusual nature of the comments, as well as the unusual recipes.

In this article:

The Governments Have Placed All Information About Their Activities In PDF Form Since the Spring of 2017

Peace,
Andrea Iravani

Avian Drainer
Avian Drainer
  Andrea Iravani
February 2, 2018 8:25 pm

You are a certifiable nut job or a mentally deranged paranoid personality disorder Orwellian psychopath for the surveillance state.

Andrea Iravani
Andrea Iravani
  Avian Drainer
February 2, 2018 9:21 pm

America is Doomed Because the Mentally Deranged and Morally Deficient Are In Control

America Is Doomed Because the Mentally Deranged and Morally Deficient Are In Control

Shinmen Takezo
Shinmen Takezo
February 2, 2018 9:05 pm

Just who is Andrea Iravani?

More importantly… why should we care?

Andrea Iravani
Andrea Iravani
  Shinmen Takezo
February 2, 2018 9:29 pm

Why care who anyone is for that matter? Just care about yourself, like a self absorbed asshole.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Andrea Iravani
February 3, 2018 1:01 am

Takezo, do yourself a favor and bow out, Iravani is by no means a pussy.

Not Sure
Not Sure
February 2, 2018 9:30 pm

It’s lonely at the bottom of the posts.

The memo is released and it has demonstrated clearly that the lawyer was right; watching MSNBC is to watch a masterful spinning of the basic truths of wrongdoing to use the memo to prove Trump will still be impeached due to Russian collusion and Nunes should be fired immediately.
This is the level and depth the BS in this country has come to. To undertake what needs to be done in conventional ways truly means an 8 year fight that will look the same 8 years from now as it does today. The truth of the conspiracy to take out Trump and the twisting of the truth by the media will leave the public confused and wearied and will by no means allow for a carrying out of justice; conventionally, the public will grow weary and the media will offer other squirrels to chase.
Therefore the ONLY way justice will be served will be by military tribunal. It’s ugly and may end badly, but it will be the only way we can hope of starting with a clean slate. The media’s original purpose was to keep the politicians clean, but today, all they do is provide cover for the progressive agenda. When their sniveling news reports are cut off, there will be a greater clarity of the actual work the tribunals will do.
Military good or bad? Just look at how Obama worked feverishly to remove the cream of the commanders and replace them with “global warming PC pencil pushers.” Yeah, some are beneficiaries of the MIC, but there a few good men there and probably the last bastion of some who could still lay their lives on the line for the constitution.

Proof of Q’s legitimacy? Look no further than the train wreck filled with the GOP, one day after the state of the union and a day before the memo. That’s some real clandestine shit right there, never to be proven, but the point well made.
This is the battle that has begun, with I believe, more fireworks over the weekend to come. It’s out of our hands now, unless your hands are folded and praying for our country and our president.

Tim
Tim
February 2, 2018 10:05 pm

Question from The Peanut Gallery:

How does the economy [And by “economy” I specifically mean “the stock market”] play into this? I see many of my friends on Facebook, The Trumpeteers, praising His Glory because the stock market is reaching ever new highs.

DC Sunsets (Has changed his name now. Damned if I can think what it is) has always said that nothing will happen until the social mood changes. If today’s market trend is any indication of what’s about to happen, [See Chris Martenson’s column from today] how will people respond to Trump?

What I’m saying is, so many people associate the highs/lows of the stock market with the sitting President. If the stock market tumbles, how will people react to Trump? He’s already so disliked by so many Americans, it will be easy to pin the losses on Trump, regardless of rationality.

How will Trump be able to enact tribunals and go forth with The Draining, if the DJIA is on the way down?

I mean, Trump, as Grand and Glorious as he is, can’t control EVERYTHING. We’ve all been reading about “The Math” since 2007. There’s nothing Trump can do to counteract math.

So, what happens next? Does Trump red-pill the entire American population on the Fed Reserve and how the whole scene is rigged? Does He convince us that it’s really Obama & Clinton under Bernanke’s tutelage that created this? Do the American populace buy this? Or do they blame Trump?

Holy Cow! I’ve had a few glasses of vino for dinner tonight. I hope this makes some sense.

Rdawg the fascist
Rdawg the fascist
  Tim
February 2, 2018 10:24 pm

Just vino for dinner? You really should buffer that with some food.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Tim
February 3, 2018 1:17 am

Tim, I’m not saying they manipulated it upwards and then manipulated it downwards because it gives the lie to Trump’s claim that he caused it to go up.

All this Q stuff is making me doubt my prevailing POV. The 9/11 theories had me going for a while. So I got out of the weeds and decided to look at the big pic: Wall Street has an interest in stability, however, crises are a good opportunity for shearing the sheep. They believe they have a handle on crashes now.
Still, even dope addicts tend to OD in unfamiliar environments.

I’ve been kind of perplexed, I had called for a Elliott wave depression around ’16 or ’18, I forget. I wrote it here so long ago. The market has always proven me wrong when I have a few bucks invested. That’s how I lost my entire 401k, slowly at first, then all at once.

Maggie
Maggie
  EL Coyote
February 5, 2018 12:36 pm

I will let you in on a little secret, tbpbff. It is all about ME.

A couple weeks ago, Nick started talking about getting ready to invest in the market once this top has blown off or the correction has occurred. I suggested that he take the little bit in my own IRA collected during the year I worked part-time for a contractor and left the contribution at 50%, which was what I submerged into retirement and savings most of my working life after Nick and I married. So, even though it was a small amount in a Vanguard account drawing nothing but a bit of dust, it offered me an opportunity to prove our theory about the stock market correct once again.

Every time Nick and I invest in the market, it tanks. Now, by invest, I mean either directly via stock purchase as we tried early in our marriage with JNJ and P&G and Exxon because I took Peter Lynch’s advice about buying stock in what you buy (diapers and laundry detergent and carpool gasoline) or later via Index funds tied to various money-making philosophies. We realized shortly after trying to figure out the post dot-com market and losing a bit of money on a trade that seems, in retrospect, to have been a swindle we should have seen coming, that a bird in hand really is better than getting chiggers in the bushes. By the time 2008 came around, Nick and I were pretty much on a solid path to retiring in the hills somewhere and withdrawing from heavily populated areas.

So, most of our savings is in a form which we feel serves our retirement plans best. But, that small Vanguard account is kind of like chump change, but is a significant amount for a retired woman of 80, if it retains any of its almost 15K value in today’s spending. Last Monday, Nick got the email telling him that Vanguard had transferred one-third (less than 5K) of my IRA into the fund Nick had selected for redirecting my IRA holdings.

So, as you can see, while there may or may not be any connection to the SOTU or any Memo implicated or indicated, it is without a doubt my reinvesting funds into the marketplace (via Nick’s switch action) which has turned the ship of state.

So, for all these damn bot breeders and rumor mongers? Don’t waste your time.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Maggie
February 5, 2018 12:43 pm

Do you have any tips for Three Card Monte?

Andrea Iravani
Andrea Iravani
  Tim
February 3, 2018 4:10 am

Tim,
My guess is that the only reason that the PPT has any reason to be attempting to keep the market on any life support is strictly as a result of government employee pensions which as I’m sure you know are not well funded. It’s been at totally unbelievable levels for me, and although I haven’t checked recently, a couple of weeks ago only 51% of Americans had any exposure to the stock market.

Trump has made the mistake of believing Gary Cohn and Steve Mnuchin. Trump even warned everyone that the market was in a bubble in 2015. He is not being frank with the public on the entire crony communist stock market where 190,000 corporations are receiving corporate welfare through the Defense Department.

I say, shut down the Fed and rely on Article 1 Section 8 Clause 5 for a greenback, but that has problems too, because everyone in Congress is an idiot and a criminal also. The entire system is totally fucked up from top to bottom with corrupt idiots! That includes the military!

A Zero Hedge poster suggested drafting people out of the phone book for Congress. I actually think that it would probably produce better results.

If it crashes, the companies may be healthier since they are essentially operating a kiting scam paying shareholders outrageously high prices in buy backs and they are of course selling bonds and using the proceeds to fund the buy backs. It looks totally nuts! I’ve noticed this years ago and everyone just keeps doing something that doesn’t work, because the alternative is telling the truth, that we are corporate fascist communists, and have been for decades. That will shock the hell out of most people.

On the bright side of irony, we can start bashing Russia for capitalism. Lol. That’s the real beef with Russia.

Rise Up
Rise Up
  IndenturedServant
February 3, 2018 6:34 pm

“Uranium One section in Iran stuff is beyond comprehension.”
———
Obummer getting nuke materials to NK. Obummer is thigh-high in NK shit. Put 2+2 together and think of his military draw downs (generals, materials, nuke readiness) and the clandestine bomb materials to the NK via Uranium One. Why would he do this?

Ottomatik
Ottomatik
  IndenturedServant
February 3, 2018 10:58 am

Top shelf IS, really, great info sharing all around, these motherfuckers need to go down, hard.

Not Sure
Not Sure
February 3, 2018 4:15 am

I have been following the Trump Train, at first, as a skeptical observer and later, as a confident supporter, along with all the Q drops and anon interprets.

Always, half way through, I got this sick feeling in my gut that, yes this is good, but I’ve been reading Fast and Furious, Bengazi and unlawful classified handling procedures that all proved to be useful information that never brought down the guilty parties. No, they belittled it and were never called out. “Wiped it? Like you mean with a cloth?” “We came, we saw, he died!”
So to read these memo’s and to see the force behind them that is becoming a storm to the wrongdoers , it seems almost too good to be true. Years of having the rug pulled out from under me have left me jaded and suspicious of outcomes, but I’m feeling something different in my gut, a feeling of something big is just around the corner, wait for it and prepare accordingly.

Ottomatik
Ottomatik
  Not Sure
February 3, 2018 11:01 am

Not Sure- Yes.

Rainstorm
Rainstorm
February 3, 2018 6:25 am

There is no middle ground here. Either Q’s followers will be proven correct or proven to be conspiracy chasers who go home from a day of work and secretly type away treatises on the net while sitting in their pajamas.

Truther
Truther
February 3, 2018 7:07 am

If Trump cannot get the media reigned in and tries to prosecute BHo and the scum filth that followed him there would be revolution coming from the left just as BHO knew there would be revolution from the right if he tried any of his bullshit (Like all his false flags to remove guns and bibles clinging to hands of southern accented people’s). Many would fear a dictator in the making no matter what or how right he was. I never like opaque language that can be used against citizens because it can happen we get a bad actor as a President just like we had in obummer. This article isn’t over the top with it’s wishful thinking. People snorting what that are making…..

MightyMike
MightyMike
February 3, 2018 10:07 am

A retired FBI agent interviewed on FOX this morning said the same thing I’ve been saying for some time.
“We are in the middle of a cold civil war.”
What I don’t understand is how or when a cold civil war becomes hot.

Andrea Iravani
Andrea Iravani
  MightyMike
February 3, 2018 2:11 pm

Didn’t see the interview but I can personally attest to the fact that it is true, and my family is being targeted. I am a victim of it and the medical mafia murdered my parents. There have been several failed assassination attempts against me. The reason that my family has been targeted? Not being stupid and corrupt enough.

Ground zero is in the hospitals and in medical testing! Colonoscopies, PAP smears, mammograms, MRIs, CAT scans, etc., all of which Obama mandated increased spending in. I actually recieve telemarketing calls from Aurora Medical Center for mammograms, even when I was not of age to get them, have no family history of breast cancer, am not an Ashkenazi Jew, and never took hormone replacement therapy!!!! The Wisconsin North Shore has one of the highest breast cancer rates in America! It’s a racket, and a silent civil war! Serving the AMA, and the political elite! I still regularly recieve harassment calls from United Healthcare, despite the fact that I have changed my phone number!!!

Eugenics started in Wisconsin in the early 1900s. One of Wisconsin’s largest exports to Canada is medical samples! The village president of Grafton, where I live is James Brunnquell, who holds zero office hours in the village, and is a manager at Froedert Hospital fulltime!
Grafton Wisconsin’s Demonously Corrupt Self-Serving Government – Andrea Iravani

Grafton Wisconsin’s Demonously Corrupt, and Self-Serving Government

Fourth Major Bad Experience With Dangerous “Smart” Energy Meter – Andrea Iravani

Fourth Major Bad Experience With Dangerous “Smart” Energy Meter

American Universities – Of Lab Mice and Mad Men – Andrea Iravani

American Universities – Of Lab Mice and Mad Men

The Zuckerberg Thought Police, and How the Mad Scientists Are Inducing Mental Illness and Suicide – Andrea Iravani

The Zuckerberg Thought Police, and How the Mad Scientists Are Inducing Mental Illness and Suicide

The Most Expensive and Deadly “Healthcare” System in the World – Andrea Iravani

The Most Expensive and Deadly “Healthcare” System in the World

Stucky
Stucky
  Andrea Iravani
February 3, 2018 2:28 pm

“The reason that my family has been targeted? Not being stupid and corrupt enough.”

Well …. those genes didn’t carry forward.?

Andrea Iravani
Andrea Iravani
  Stucky
February 3, 2018 2:54 pm

Thanks. You’re a life saver!

Andrea Iravani
Andrea Iravani
  Andrea Iravani
February 3, 2018 3:14 pm

The Medical Mafia, Eugenics, and the Silent Civil War

The Medical Mafia, Eugenics, and the Silent Civil War

Peace,
Andrea Iravani

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Stucky
February 3, 2018 3:11 pm

Stuck, your a funny guy. Luv ya man!
Drea says your a hole with sweetness all around.
Do you have a date for the 14th?

Maggie
Maggie
  EL Coyote
February 5, 2018 12:39 pm

I have Stucky on my dance card… how about you?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Maggie
February 5, 2018 12:46 pm

No rsvp yet.

Rise Up
Rise Up
  MightyMike
February 3, 2018 5:31 pm

MightyMike says:
February 3, 2018 at 10:07 am

A retired FBI agent interviewed on FOX this morning said the same thing I’ve been saying for some time.
“We are in the middle of a cold civil war.”
What I don’t understand is how or when a cold civil war becomes hot.
————–
It’s already “hot” for many…read Q drops #650 and #652 here in relation to the helicopter crash recently in CA (Adam Schiff district):

https://qcodefag.github.io/

http://www.latimes.com/socal/daily-pilot/news/tn-dpt-me-crash-update-20180131-story.html

W
W
  Rise Up
February 3, 2018 9:23 pm

FYI if you are perusing the qcode site, if there is ANSWER box in the lower right it will open up, I guess, other anons comments for the individual Q post.

Stumbled across this hint on Twitter FWIW

Peace☺