Here’s What Would Happen If A Nuclear Bomb Was Detonated On The Ground In NYC

Smokey’s advice for New Yawkers would have been, “They Should Have Ducked”.

Authored by Daisy Luther via The Organic Prepper blog,

After the meeting between North Korean leader Kim Jong Un and US President Donald Trump seemed to end on an optimistic note, one may have hoped that our fears of a nuclear attack would subside. Not so, according to The New Yorker, who published an article entitled, “This Is What a Nuclear Attack on New York Would Look Like.”

While the timing may seem odd, it’s important to note that feelings are mixed about the North Korea-US summit.  Some are pleased and feel that a great deal was accomplished, while others are unhappy – even angry – that Trump made nice with a brutal dictator.

It’s tough for many folks to separate their feelings about Trump, whether those feelings are animosity or support, and it shows in their assessment of the conversation. And this isn’t unique. People had the same difficulties with President Obama. Supporters thought everything he did was great, while detractors thought he was the Anti-Christ. We’d all be wise to try to separate our feelings from our take on current events, as difficult as that might be. However, that isn’t what this article is about.

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What would the nuclear threat look like?

The  New Yorker piece is prefaced with the opinion that the potential nuke won’t be from the sources most of us have been worrying about. “If America is attacked, the strike probably won’t come from North Korea. And it will be even scarier than we imagine.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/horizontal-feature-lede.nocrop.w1600.h2147483647.jpg?itok=o1lzcUxE

The intro is a political diatribe with some legitimate facts that are overshadowed by a blatant bias. But Ferris Jabr is an experienced science journalist who is a contributing writer for Scientific American and has been published in Wired, Foreign Policy, Aeon, Hakai, New Scientist, and Quanta, to name just a few outlets.  Don’t be too put off by the first couple of paragraphs to read the very credible information he provides in the rest of the article. The author discusses a distinct, chilling possibility that has quite a bit of merit.

…a nuclear attack on the United States could well come not from the skies but from the streets. Experts warn that it would be relatively easy for terrorists to build an “improvised nuclear bomb” and smuggle it into America. Building a ten-kiloton bomb nearly as destructive as the one dropped on Hiroshima would require little more than some technical expertise and 46 kilograms of highly enriched uranium — a quantity about the size of a bowling ball.

This is absolutely not outside the realm of possibility.

Last month, some weapons-grade plutonium went missing from a university in Idaho. While the amount taken wasn’t enough to make a giant nuke, it was certainly enough to make a dirty bomb. I was unable to find any indication that the plutonium was ever recovered, and if any readers know, please post your links in the comments so I can update this article. This isn’t the first time that nuclear materials have gone missing – far from it. In 2013, the Washington Post published an unsettling map that showed dozens of thefts or losses of the ingredients required to cook up a dirty bomb or worse.

The New Yorker article posits that the bomb would likely be assembled elsewhere and then smuggled into the United States but we can’t overlook the possibility that it could be just as easily assembled right here at home, should such an event occur. The article explains how a crude 10-kiloton bomb could be made and smuggled in (and it’s quite thorough to my untrained eye)

Once terrorists obtained the uranium, they would need only a small team of sympathetic engineers and physicists to build what is known as a gun-type nuclear bomb, like the one dropped on Hiroshima. A gun-type nuke uses traditional explosives to fire a slug of uranium through a tube directly into another chunk of uranium, fracturing huge numbers of atoms and unleashing a massive amount of energy…

…The last step in the process — smuggling the weapon into the United States — would be even easier. A ten-kiloton bomb, which would release as much energy as 10,000 tons of TNT, would be only seven feet long and weigh about 1,000 pounds. It would be simple to transport such a device to America aboard a container ship, just another unseen object in a giant metal box among millions of other metal boxes floating on the ocean. Even a moderate amount of shielding would be enough to hide its radioactive signature from most detectors at shipping hubs. Given all the naturally radioactive items that frequently trigger false alarms — bananas, ceramics, Brazil nuts, pet deodorizers — a terrorist group could even bury the bomb in bags of Fresh Step or Tidy Cats to fool inspectors if a security sensor was tripped.

Jabr then suggests that the shipment could reach port in Newark, New Jersey, after which a route through the Lincoln Tunnel into Times Square might be the likely course.

What would happen when the nuke detonated?

Keep in mind that this article is specific to New York City. Anyone who lives there or has traveled there will finish reading it with a clear picture in their minds of the landmarks mentioned. But even if you never set foot in the Big Apple, the information delivered in such a relatable way is priceless.

I’ve written a great deal about the survivability of a nuclear strike if one doesn’t happen to be at Ground Zero, and it seems that the author of this piece agrees. Here’s an excerpt:

A ten-kiloton nuclear bomb detonated on the ground in Times Square would explode with a white flash brighter than the sun. It would be seen for hundreds of miles, briefly blinding people as far away as Queens and Newark. In the same moment, a wave of searing heat would radiate outward from the explosion, followed by a massive fireball, the core of which would reach tens of millions of degrees, as hot as the center of the sun.

When such a bomb explodes, everyone within 100 feet of ground zero is instantaneously reduced to a spray of atoms…Near the center of the blast, the suffering and devastation most closely conform to the fictional apocalypse of our imaginations…Within a half-mile radius of the blast, there would be few survivors…

As the fireball travels outward from the blast, people, buildings, and trees within a one-mile radius would be severely burned or charred. Metal, fabric, plastic, and clay would ignite, melt, or blister. The intense heat would set gas lines, fuel tanks, and power lines on fire, and an electromagnetic pulse created by the explosion would knock out most computers, cell phones, and communication towers within several miles.

Traveling much farther than the fireball, a colossal pressure wave would hurtle forth faster than the speed of sound, generating winds up to 500 miles per hour. The shock wave would demolish the flimsiest buildings and strip the walls and roofs off stronger structures, leaving only their naked and warped scaffolding. It would snap utility poles like toothpicks and rip through trees, fling people through the air, and turn brick, glass, wood, and metal into deadly projectiles. A blast in Times Square, combined with the fireball, would carve a crater 50 feet deep at the center of the explosion. The shock wave would reach a diameter of nearly 3.2 miles, shattering windows as far as Gramercy Park and the American Museum of Natural History.

All this would happen within a few seconds.

As this pulse of radiation surges through the bodies of everyone who is outside, or in weakly insulated buildings, it wreaks biological havoc at the molecular level…Within minutes to hours, most people exposed in these areas would begin to show signs of acute radiation syndrome…

The article is well worth reading to get a clear, horrifyingly detailed picture of the reality of a nuclear attack for those closest to Ground Zero. It continues to explain what would happen to those within a few miles in the hours and first days after the attack, and has some excellent advice on how to protect yourself should you find yourself in close proximity to a strike. The author concludes:

A terrorist-built nuclear bomb detonated in Times Square would injure 300,000 people and kill 250,000 — 20 times more deaths than in any natural disaster or act of terrorism in America’s history. More than 500,000 would eventually be killed or injured by the radioactive fallout…

…Overall, a nuclear missile detonated in the air over New York City would be more destructive and deadlier than a ground explosion, because it would generate a larger blast wave and fireball. By contrast, a nuclear bomb detonated on the ground loses some of its destructive power, because the energy is absorbed by the ground itself, but kicks up more dirt and debris, producing a much larger amount of radioactive fallout and causing a higher proportion of deaths from radiation sickness and cancer.

Really, it seems to me that this scenario of a crude nuclear bomb detonated on the ground in a populated area is a whole lot more likely than a missile strike from across the ocean.

You need to learn to protect yourself against all types of nuclear threats.

By understanding exactly how this would affect Ground Zero and the area around it, we give ourselves a much greater opportunity for survival. Clearly, in a localized event, the entire country would not turn into a nuclear wasteland like the setting of The Road, but this is a common misconception that leaves people paralyzed in fear.

It would be centered around the blast area, but the radiation and plume would travel. Being prepared for this possibility is far wiser than saying, “I’ll just take my chances and die. Who would want to live after that?”

The unfortunate thing for those who deliberately choose the option of remaining unprepared is that you probably won’t just die in the blast. You will die a horrific, lingering death, in agony as your skin peels off, your organs shut down one by one, and your loved ones suffer beside you.

Learn how to create a survival shelter in your home. Even if you aren’t at home when something terrible happens, that information could save your life. Knowledge is power.

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Llpoh
Llpoh
June 14, 2018 6:53 am

What would happen is that I would shrug, pour another shot of fine single malt, and watch the kangaroos frolic across the valley. Those that live by the sword die by it. And the US has been living by it a long time now.

I might worry a bit about Stuck, given his proximity. But given I could not influence the situation one way or another, my worry would be wasted energy, so I would sip my Scotch and enjoy the peace before me.

I am too old to worry about folks that choose to live unnaturally cheek by jowl in shitholes like NYC. When they start bombing the far countryside, I might take notice.

To quote Steely Dan:

“Your everlasting summer
You can see it fading fast
So you grab a piece of something
That you think is gonna last
But you wouldn’t know a diamond
If you held it in your hand
The things you think are precious
I can’t understand….

The things that pass for knowledge
I can’t understand“

Stucky
Stucky
  Llpoh
June 14, 2018 11:09 am

Unfortunately, I live about 23 miles (as the crow flies) from downtown Manhattan. VERY bad because I would likely survive the initial blast — especially since this old mansion has three foot thick walls — and then die a horrible death via radiation, starvation, or by a roving band of angry Kneegrows.

The best place to be in a nuke attack is either; A) far far away (like Australia) or, B) at ground zero (instant vaporization).

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
June 14, 2018 11:20 am

‘Splain again how the roving band of angry dudes from the victim hood are going to survive. Are EBT cards an effective shield against a nuclear blast?

Stucky
Stucky
  Anonymous
June 14, 2018 11:58 am

The answer to your question is for you to meditate on The Way Of The Cockroach.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
  Stucky
June 14, 2018 12:46 pm

Not only would you survive but the distance combined with the thickness of the walls (presumably stone) would protect you from the worst radiation. But you are right. The aftermath of such a blast would be empty stores and roving bands of angry kneegrows.

Maggie
Maggie
June 14, 2018 8:09 am

We have ten inches of concrete around the basement and metal lid on one section. Stucky can bring Ms. Freud here but he’ll have to put up with the raccoons.

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 14, 2018 8:12 am

The fear and hysteria level has to be maintained by the Left.

Otherwise Trump might be looking good and that can’t be allowed to happen before the upcoming elections.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
June 14, 2018 8:13 am

A bomb in NYC would kill a lot of vermin. Also rats.

Maggie
Maggie
June 14, 2018 8:14 am

Wouldn’t do a thing about roaches or alligators.

Dutchman
Dutchman
June 14, 2018 8:17 am

It would clean-up that cesspool called New York.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
June 14, 2018 8:53 am

It would likely result in giving more money to Israel.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
June 14, 2018 9:15 am

The effects of a (very small) ten KT bomb at ground level would be severely muffled by all the buildings and concrete….In any event, not sure what the point of the article was, since if you’re in the blast area you’re dead, and otherwise you’re very likely OK…

LaGeR
LaGeR
June 14, 2018 10:12 am

Comments came in just as I expected.
Llpoh: Agreed, but, what’s your brand preference on that single malt?
Ozarks: You might need more wipes?
Iska & Dutch: yup
Zara & Yo: wouldn’t surprise, but they’d be offing many of their own if so.

If I see mushroom cloud(s), I’d crack open a cold long neck, think a silent prayer for the innocents,
reminisce about all the good experiences from a reasonably good long life, and
as calmly as possible wonder what’s on the other side,
with in all likelihood a very bleak, limited time left on the chaotic side of life on planet Earth.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  LaGeR
June 14, 2018 5:14 pm

LaGeR – I have a big collection. However, my preference is always Lagavulin.

Also like Ardbeg, Talisker, Lap, Highland Park, Caol Ila, Kilchoman (yum!), etc.

But the Lag is king.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
  Llpoh
June 14, 2018 8:47 pm

Q: What’s the difference between a $10 bottle of wine and a $100 one.
A: Ninety bucks.

Not much of a scotch drinker though…

Rdawg
Rdawg
  Llpoh
June 14, 2018 10:11 pm

Highland Park 12 Yr is wonderful stuff. I like Aberlour too.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Llpoh
June 14, 2018 10:20 pm

Funny, Lagavulin is my ATF.

The Balvenie, Glenkinchie , and Glenmorangie too.

Haven’t had one in years. Maybe the kids can hook me up for Father’s Day.

Bilco
Bilco
June 14, 2018 10:58 am

An awful scenario for sure. God forbid if anything like that happens,but if it ever did. Us here upstate could only hope Cuomo and Schumer were in town.

Gilnut
Gilnut
June 14, 2018 11:25 am

The only way this would happen would be through collaboration with a nation state. Weapons grade plutonium is exceptionally hard to produce and VERY expensive. Those countries that are able to produce this material have exceptional control mechanisms in place. In addition to this fact, it’s actually quite easy to identify and track any appreciable amounts of this material from satellite. The US was able to identify, track, and intercept much smaller amounts after the fall of the Soviet Union.

While I agree that the results would be horrific, there would have to be a wide conspiracy and collusion for any large amount of this material to fall into the “wrong” hands. Now, an argument that the world leaders that have access to existing materials are sociopaths and would already constitute the “wrong” hands, is another discussion altogether. 🙂

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
June 14, 2018 12:05 pm

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“The mushroom cloud rose almost eight miles high and left a crater that was ten feet deep and over 1,000 feet wide.

Groves and Oppenheimer with his signature porkpie hat returned to the Trinity site about six weeks after the explosion on Sunday, September 9, 1945. The twisted metal rods were all that remained of the 100-foot tower. The press was invited for the first time in part to dispel fears of lingering high radiation levels.”

6 weeks later.

Where is the 1,000 foot wide, 10 foot deep crater? What about the radiation? Are cotton footies all that is required to escape the dangerous radiation?

There are so many layers of lies and deception that surround anything that our government is involved in- especially where it pertains to scientific advances and first of their kind achievements that no one can even begin to know what is and isn’t real.

surfaddict
surfaddict
  hardscrabble farmer
June 14, 2018 1:00 pm

they are standing in the crater, see the lip 500+ ft behind them? Its about even with their heads in photo

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  surfaddict
June 14, 2018 9:54 pm

So the official line on the temperature of the explosion at the Trinity test is anywhere from 300,000 degrees Celsius to the extreme high of 10,000,000 degrees “within 17 meters” or just under 56 feet of the blast, depending on which DOE pdf/wikipedia page you look up. Both pretty high temperatures. And yet there’s old Oppenheimer, Destroyer of Worlds standing next to a tangle of 1″ iron rebar protruding from the footing for one of the tower supports, in his cotton booties and fedora, grinning like the Cheshire Cat.

Call me crazy, but shouldn’t those pieces of iron have vaporized in the maelstrom? Not only are they still intact, their ribbing clearly visible, but the wire ties are still in place. HELLO? Is this thing on?

I’m sure someone is going to jump right in and tell me that the insulating qualities of 3 month old concrete somehow counteracted the expected results, but the official line on footing depth for the tower is 20 feet, and what we’re looking at isn’t the bottom of the footing, but something less than that, far less than than 55 feet radius at 540,000 degrees F.

There was a huge explosion, but I definitely do not believe it was nuclear. And the photos they used to prove it?

ROTFLMFAO

Cotton booties? Too funny.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  hardscrabble farmer
June 15, 2018 10:36 am

The Hiroshima Prefectural Industrial Promotion Hall is still standing, with exposed metal reinforcement bars visible in its dome, and it is said to be the building closest to the “hypocenter” of the explosion that was still standing. One can see from the footage of any of the explosions that they are clearly NOT homogeneous throughout.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  hardscrabble farmer
June 14, 2018 7:33 pm

“There are so many layers of lies and deception that surround anything that our government is involved in- especially where it pertains to scientific advances and first of their kind achievements that no one can even begin to know what is and isn’t real.”

That. Exactly.

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
June 14, 2018 12:45 pm

As the son of a SAC pilot who knew from an early age what power was set to be unleashed, I trembled when I would hear the 52’s fire up at midnight, ready to deliver. Usually the jet rocket engines would blast loud in the still night airs and then shut down as the readiness drill would be aborted.. Especially frightening was when the alert called for lift off. As a 12 year old I wondered if I would ever experience sex with a female, a passion promised yet unachieved when hearing the mighty Stratofortess’s take off. The priorities of a randy adolescent made real by the dreams of a sleeping psyche.

I read about the Sampson Option, attributed to (((some))). Hell’s bells echo around the world. Like Saddam and his mobile scuds imitating US mobile launchers on 18 wheelers I expect many nukes have been placed around the world. I once read about back pack nuke packages that can be carried on a man’s back. I would wager there are many attempts with lingering success across the landscapes of the world.

Hence why when chatted up by a Russian agent connected to Putin, in a bar in the French Quarter, I asked for a signal that if Putin was on board with my fears and desire to put a boot on the neck of any who would attempt such calamity. This among many things on my mind at the time, empower women, protect children still leads my thoughts. I broke my self imposed sobriety to do Stoly shots with him. I told the Slavic accented man if Putin was with me on this, I want to see him sing Blueberry Hill. Alcohol may have influenced my salubrious salutation but not my intentions.

The movie and book “The Sum Of All Fears” directs thoughts about this.

My surprise was humbling when a month or so later Vlad came out with this:

Iconoclast421
Iconoclast421
June 14, 2018 2:05 pm

In order to properly estimate the damage, we need to know the yields on Israel’s warheads. Because that is most likely where the nuke is going to come from. The day before the nuke goes off, thousands of Israeli dual citizens will be told not to go to work the next day. And of course there will be a total blackout of this information in the media and you will be called a kook and deplatformed or worse if you talk about it.

TampaRed
TampaRed
June 14, 2018 7:35 pm

instead of telling us about it,couldn’t they demonstrate it for us–

Smoke Jensern
Smoke Jensern
June 14, 2018 8:39 pm

All I know is, if it happens before season 4 of the Expanse is released I’m going to be a mad S.O.B. Now, where’s my remote.