Forgiveness Is Overrated

Guest Post by Caitlin Johnstone

Journalist David Sirota has just published an excellent op-ed titled “America’s new aristocracy lives in an accountability-free zone”, which begins with the observation that “Enron executives were among the last politically connected criminals to face any serious consequences for institutionalized fraud.” Sirota goes on to remind readers how there was never any attempt by either mainstream political party to bring accountability to anyone responsible for monstrous offenses ranging from the disastrous invasion of Iraq to the ecocidal manipulations of fossil fuel plutocrats to the Wall Street plundering which led to the 2008 global financial crisis.

Sirota’s argument is solid: there is an aristocratic class which has successfully neutered all the institutional mechanisms which were meant to protect the powerless from the powerful. The government is bought and owned by the plutocrats and so is the media, as the continued forgiveness of unforgivable transgressions which those institutions have been bestowing upon the aristocracy clearly reflects. This means that the only thing left protecting the populace from the powerful is the populace itself.

A couple of years back I read a Shaun King article titled “Stop asking black victims of white violence if they forgive their victimizers”, about a bizarre trend in which the black survivors of police shootings and racially motivated terrorism were consistently finding themselves barraged with questions about forgiveness. King wrote about how “before her son, Philando, had even been buried, his body riddled with bullets from a Minnesota police officer, Valerie Castile was asked live on CNN if she forgave the man who shot him,” which is a truly demented thing to ask someone in such a situation. Why would a newscaster bring up forgiveness when a horrific injustice has just been inflicted and no measures of any kind have even been taken to rectify it?

In response to the latest wave of sex scandals in the Roman Catholic Church, “masses of forgiveness” were held in August as a way to help the faithful in “healing” their distrust of the institution which has upheld itself as the highest moral authority in the world for two thousand years. “I beg forgiveness for these sins and for the scandal and betrayal felt by so many others in God’s family,” said Pope Francis at a Marian shrine in Ireland in response to the degradation and abuse inflicted upon the people of that nation by trusted Church officials.

The concept of forgiveness is a recurring theme in any abusive relationship, and necessarily so, because without extensive value being placed upon that concept there wouldn’t be a relationship. You wouldn’t have a battered wife, you’d have a story about how a woman’s boyfriend hit her one time and she grabbed all her stuff and split. You wouldn’t have a brainwashed and exploited cult member, you’d have a story about how someone met a group of people and left when things got weird. You wouldn’t have a major world religion consistently embroiled in horrifying scandals, you’d have people dismissing that religion and placing their energy and attention elsewhere. You wouldn’t have a society that constantly allows itself to be manipulated into consenting to abuse and exploitation by an aristocratic class, you’d have a people’s uprising in which the vastly outnumbered elites are shrugged off and replaced with a system which benefits humanity.

Forgiveness is overrated. There are only two types of people who consistently promulgate the importance of forgiveness: abusers and their codependents. The abuse can range from pedophilia and battery to war and ecocide, and the codependency can range from a wife saying she fell down the stairs again to a newscaster demanding to know when the mother of a son just gunned down by police will forgive his murderer, but the formula remains the same in each instance.

Anyone who goes around around telling everyone else how important it is to forgive is either an abuser or one of their brainwashed Stockholm syndrome victims. Forgiveness is something you do for yourself, for your own benefit, when you are ready and only for freeing yourself from energetic entanglements. Those who have truly learned the value of authentic forgiveness don’t run around telling other people to forgive those who have wronged them, because they understand that you don’t need anyone else’s help or permission to forgive somebody, and you don’t even need anyone to change necessarily. If you really want to forgive someone so that you can move on and stop thinking about it, you can do so as long as they’re not doing the bad thing to you anymore. They don’t have to repent or admit to their wrongdoing or whatever; you can forgive them for being the thing they are just like you can forgive a man-eating bear for being a man-eating bear. If it would really benefit your inner peace and undo some mental chatter, you can zoom out and see that a human being’s behavior is patterned like the veins in a leaf, and that patterning rarely changes. You unknowingly walked into that person’s path as innocently as if you’d accidentally walked in front of a bus. Forgiving someone can just be letting go of the idea that they will change, or that they would’ve done anything different or would do anything different given the chance.

Once you’ve seen that though, you don’t let them back in your life, and you certainly don’t let them go on running the world. Man-eating bear be man-eating bear, man. You don’t let a man-eating bear hang around long enough to eat another one of your children, and you don’t let a neocon hang around long enough to destroy another middle-eastern country. You know what they do, you’ve seen what they are, and you don’t let them do it anymore. Being lulled into a state of inertia with hypnotic entreaties about forgiveness and how we’re all kinda fucked up and we all make mistakes and we’re all the same is just another psychologically abusive manipulation performed by the abusers and their codependents. Some people in the highest echelons of power right now have facilitated the most extraordinary barbaric crimes on a scale that even the worst serial killer in his most horrifying fantasies could barely bring himself to imagine. Our greatest mistake as a species right now is forgiving them.

One major way that sociopaths differ from normal people is that they don’t think about things in terms of feeling bad or feeling good about doing something, they just think about the consequences. If you don’t feel guilt, you don’t worry about feeling guilty. It literally doesn’t factor into your decision-making process. “Oh, I won’t do that again because I sure do feel bad about that million people I helped kill” is not a thought that ever goes through their head. If the consequences of Iraq were a buttload of profit and a regular spot on CNN with absolutely no downside whatsoever, no uncomfortable trip to the Hague, no endless prison sentence, no stripping of wealth, status and power, then of course they want to do it again and again and again and again and again. They will do it until they are stopped.

So America’s new aristocracy must be stopped, and the only way they can be stopped is to be held to account, right here, on earth, as soon as humanly possible. Allowing them to go on for even one more day is acknowledging that there are no consequences for evil, and when there are no consequences for evil, evil will reign.

And that’s where we are right now. Evil reigns, but it’s a simple matter of restoring justice to the earth by the people taking their power back and standing in judgement of these pricks and making sure they do not do this again. Passing judgement on someone is an idea that makes good people feel uneasy, and that’s deliberate. From the Pope down, we’ve been anesthetized with this mind-virus that in order to be good people we just put our head down, work hard, die poor, and let God do the judging. How convenient for power is that story? A little too convenient. Sold to us by the same people who rape children and sit on a throne of stolen riches.

I don’t buy it anymore, and neither should you.

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Mean Guy
Mean Guy
October 6, 2018 8:43 am

Stop trying to make Q happen. Q is not going to happen.
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Wip
Wip
October 6, 2018 8:44 am

“From the Pope down, we’ve been anesthetized with this mind-virus that in order to be good people we just put our head down, work hard, die poor, and let God do the judging. How convenient for power is that story?”

Damn, pretty good stuff. What’s the purpose, to serve Mammon?

Mammon in the New Testament of the Bible is commonly thought to mean money, material wealth, or any entity that promises wealth, and is associated with the greedy pursuit of gain. “You cannot serve both God and mammon.”

There’s that nasty word “greed” again.

CCRider
CCRider
October 6, 2018 8:48 am

I always liked Robert Kennedy’s advise on forgiveness:

Forgive your enemies
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But remember the bastard’s names.

Dan
Dan
October 6, 2018 8:56 am

Thank you, shared.

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
October 6, 2018 9:03 am

I follow Caitin on FB. This is typical of her rants. She misses the mark by a wide margin imo. Forgiveness is not for the perp. It is for the victim. To hold on to anger for some abuse, large or small, only hurts the alleged victim. It festers into resentment. A recent post was about this, it used some word for it – sanctimania or something like that. Resentment is the number one offender says AA’s Bill Wilson. And is like taking poison to hurt another.

I forgive but do not forget. I lose the toxic emotion and find a way to proactively do something about my perceived injury; physical , mental, economic, spiritual…. Truthfully I find some retained angers surface at odd times and reminds me to take my own advice. My lingering anger not only hurts me but spills over on those around me.

A course of action might be making a complaint to some prescribed authority that proscribes another’s actions. At the minimum I state my case to the agent of perceived harm. And it is usually dismissed or ignored but my responsibility is to speak up. When you deal with a sociopath or psychopath it is like hitting a tar baby so one must understand what you are dealing with. I forgive and effect consequences when I have that ability; or appeal to an agent who can enforce consequences. And sometimes I just suck it up.

Practically, on a personal level, I set up boundaries to keep offenders away from me. On an institutional level it becomes more complicated. Once bitten, twice shy comes to mind.

I agree with her premise that there is not much accountability to constrain big players that affect us all. All I can do is make my voice heard wherever there is an ear to hear it.

And is why I return to the TBP again and again.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  KeyserSusie
October 6, 2018 12:16 pm

“She misses the mark by a wide margin imo. Forgiveness is not for the perp. It is for the victim.”

Almost stopped reading her essay because I was right with you but I kept going and no, K S, I think you missed this paragraph:

“Forgiveness is something you do for yourself, for your own benefit, when you are ready and only for freeing yourself from energetic entanglements. Those who have truly learned the value of authentic forgiveness don’t run around telling other people to forgive those who have wronged them, because they understand that you don’t need anyone else’s help or permission to forgive somebody, and you don’t even need anyone to change necessarily. If you really want to forgive someone so that you can move on and stop thinking about it, you can do so as long as they’re not doing the bad thing to you anymore. They don’t have to repent or admit to their wrongdoing ”

That’s pretty much what you are saying. However, I think she is mixing up forgiveness for a wrong committed against an individual and the wrongs we are dealing with in society as a whole.

Forgiving my husband for things that he has done and vice/versa has kept our marriage going strong for 18 years. Sometimes I have to just let things go because it’s just not worth fighting over. Big things we have to work through, little things are best let go.

What is being done to our country is a whole different ball of wax. Who do I forgive? Just exactly who am I supposed to be angry with. Am I angry? Yes but I have to include myself along with everyone else. We were misled but I think deep down we have known for many years and we have absolutely no excuse for letting this go on for the past 10 years.

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
  Mary Christine
October 6, 2018 3:44 pm

yep, guilty as charged, I skimmed over her rhetoric unfairly.

On another note I was amused when I found out the identity of the infamous female soul who stands as the ultimate meme for angry liberal. She is semi local to me and I saw a photo of her attending a local social/political event on FB. She had a press pass id and a rainbow button/pin attached to her shirt, same hair and glasses and a purple tint to her locks on top.
I asked my friend who knows her and she attempted to say it was not her in the iconic meme. But her two maxillary central incisors are the same. She was surrounded by open mouthed cucks in a few of the FB posts photos. It would be cruel to dox her. I cannot imagine how she must feel about her celebrity.comment image

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  KeyserSusie
October 6, 2018 11:35 pm

That’s not Melissa Click is it..nah I’m just confusing this pic with that horrid MU professor from a few years back

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
  Mary Christine
October 6, 2018 11:40 pm

Negative. I am almost tempted to interview her to see what she has to offer. But I think it would not go well for me.

anarchyst
anarchyst
October 6, 2018 9:05 am

Forgiveness only works when the abuser ASKS for forgiveness from the victim. I do not believe in giving forgiveness freely without contrite actions from the abuser.

Cleveland Rocks
Cleveland Rocks
  anarchyst
October 6, 2018 1:17 pm

Bingo !

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
  anarchyst
October 6, 2018 11:39 pm

So hold on to the poison.

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
  anarchyst
October 6, 2018 11:42 pm

I am not saying to not effect consequences mind you.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
October 6, 2018 9:47 am

“Ecocidal fossil fuel plutocrats”? Caitlin sounds like a subscriber to the “warmist” scam…

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
October 6, 2018 10:56 am

I’m a Christian but Earth isn’t Heaven. Rule One is if they don’t sincerely ask for forgiveness, they don’t get it. I deal with whatever were my injuries: if I had killed every SOB that crossed my path and deserved to die, we’d be knee deep in dead assholes. Rule Two is I don’t help people who wronged me or don’t deserve help; I do not throw pearls before swine. If I gave money to everyone that asked for it, I’d be broke; Do Gooders are Suckers. The Virtuous have worked to earn respect and what little we have to give should go to the worthy needy.

BL
BL
  robert h siddell jr
October 6, 2018 11:38 am

Robert,I agree with your post, there is not one drive-thru , grocery, convenience store etc. that does not ask for a donation to XYZ worthy cause every day where I live. If you make five stops at retailers during the day, I can assure you you will be shaken down at least five times for some fiat. Do Gooders are suckers, and I have noticed women tend to be the biggest suckers.

If you boiled it all down to what you term the “worthy needy”, it would be a very few. Back in the day widows ,orphans, the blind and cripples were the bulk of “worthy needy”, now it seems like it is about 30% of the population.

Unreconstructed
Unreconstructed
  BL
October 8, 2018 9:20 pm

I had an abundance of vegetables in my garden one year. Way more than I needed. Called to offer them to a homeless men’s shelter. The reply was,”you mean they’re not in a can?”
Needless to say they turned them down. Same with another charity. I guess it would have been OK if I volunteered to cook them and serve them. Had already worked my ass off to grow them. Since that day “Fuck Them!!”

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  robert h siddell jr
October 6, 2018 12:21 pm

I guess you are ignoring Jesus when he said we should love our enemies and gave us the Good Samaritan parable as an example.

BL
BL
  Mary Christine
October 6, 2018 12:55 pm

MC- I never ignore Jesus and if you knew me in real life you would think me a very good person BUT charity in 2018 America is a scam-a-minute. I would help any truly needy soul on this planet but it seems the needy are legion and that is where the sucker aspect kicks in. Do you believe that a huge chunk of our population is truly needy MC?

There is a major intersection here where approx. every six weeks, negroes with OPEN buckets the size of a 5 gallon paint buckets collect money for who knows what, never a white face collecting and that has been going on for years. Guess who usually hands money out to these people? Yup, women. Just for the record I would not put money in a open bucket if they were white.

Back in the day, Catholic charities along with other charities took care of the “worthy needy”. Needy societies are weak and easily conquered MC.

Edit: Oh, and I do love my enemies but I would gut them like a fish if need be because I am NOT a sucker.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  BL
October 6, 2018 1:16 pm

BL, you are reading too much into my reply. See my reply to Wip below.

BL
BL
  Mary Christine
October 6, 2018 1:27 pm

Sorry MC, I thought maybe you were shaking your finger in my direction because I think women tend to be the do-gooder suckers.

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
  Mary Christine
October 6, 2018 10:05 pm

I know many Muslims and Hindus, love many of them and pray they become Christians. I know about poverty first hand. I carry and will help crime victims; but people are different now than in Jesus’ time; and my resources are limited; no way could I make a dent in the needs of the Black community, and feel no calling to do so, nor to be a fool and deplete my inadequate resources, which are for my family and friends; that day will come soon; I’m not even close to fully prepared, and it will be overwhelming. Several of us raise cattle around here but breeding stock are not for the taking. I have planted 5 acres of fruit and nut trees, and 10 acres of pasture turnips for forage but if people are hungry and orderly, they could harvest that, which could be the basis of a survival diet. Give your own pearls to bums all you want but later don’t come expecting free food from me or trying to take it either.

Wip
Wip
  robert h siddell jr
October 6, 2018 12:33 pm

Amen.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Wip
October 6, 2018 12:41 pm

The thing about “love” in the new testament is confusing to us westerners. Love is a verb and by love Jesus means we should want what is best for our neighbors, which is also confusing. It seems that Jesus is mostly talking about one on one interaction. What I feel is best for my “neighbor” or anyone else for that matter is always going to be subjective.

Stucky
Stucky
  robert h siddell jr
October 6, 2018 1:29 pm

” Rule One is if they don’t sincerely ask for forgiveness, they don’t get it. ”

While hanging on the cross Jesus said of his tormentors “Father, forgive them for they know not what they do”

The tormentors did not ask for forgiveness but Jesus forgave them anyway.

Not that I expect you, or anyone else, to be just like Jesus. Just sayin’ …..

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
  Stucky
October 6, 2018 11:45 pm

Of the other two on crosses that day, one expressed a kind of repentance and the other didn’t. I believe the first was totally forgiven (how very generous is God’s mercy) and the other was not; so complete forgiveness isn’t automatic and like a Presidential Pardon; nor do I believe the Romans and Jews involved in Jesus’ murder got a pass, nor the anti-Christs today. I believe Theology is very complicated; this Pope is hopeless and most Progressive Christians are in quick-sand (40% accept abortion, pederasty, fornication/premarital sex, out of wedlock births, adultery, lying etc as normal); they have become common because people have become immoral and overly tolerant, permissive, and forgiving. Maybe we should forgive the sinner but then make them spend some uncomfortable time in the Dog House.

12 Gauge Mike
12 Gauge Mike
October 6, 2018 11:12 am

I’ve got Italian Alzheimers. The one thing I’m incapable of forgetting is a grudge.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
October 6, 2018 11:57 am

Forgiveness and justice are two separate things. You can forgive a man who is being lethally injected for killing your wife. Forgiveness never meant “get off the hook.”

For instance, to this day, I haven’t forgiven George W Bush for what he did to this country. He was responsible for bringing this country to a point where we threw ourselves at that nigger. He was a monster and a sociopath, as his parents were.

Yet he was elected, and given a second term, in which he actually won. Because he was “securin’ the homeland” for us.

The real problem isn’t politicians, they’re a dime-a-dozen. The problem is the electorate. Both sides of the electorate. We can blame all the liberals for everything, but the right wing has its own problems. Go to any airport and listen to the pre-board announcements for the military, with a big “Thank You”. You mean those people who pull down paychecks from us? Who get better medical care than most civilians? Who get tax free commissaries? Who get a 15% discount on life, right down to ballpark tickets? But we (on the right) have to clap our hands and yelp like seals every time one of those ignorant clowns walks by.

We (on the right) have exploded all the deficits, including the Pentagon budget which should be cut 50% for starters. And we blame “the liberals” for our problems.

I could go on, but think about this, Alaska elected Lisa Murkowski to the Senate. Alaska is supposed to be this libertarian garden of eden. It’s not. It’s a bunch of drunks on welfare who delude themselves into thinking that they’re free. So they elect that filthy cunt and call themselves right wing. Only about 10% of the electorate has a clue, why should the ratio be any different with politicians?

BL
BL
  JR Wirth
October 6, 2018 1:09 pm

BRAVO Wirth, +1000

Fiatman60
Fiatman60
October 6, 2018 12:45 pm

Excellent article….. kinda reminds me of Clint Eastwood’s “Unforgiven”
“Deserve’s got nuthin to do with it”
Basically Clint does what he ultimately has to do to stop it…….

BL
BL
  Fiatman60
October 6, 2018 1:30 pm

That’s right Fiatman. “Deserves got nuthin to do with it”.

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
October 6, 2018 1:59 pm

Forgiveness comes from GOD , it’s our job to arrange that meeting . A quote from “ Man On Fire” !
As for religion : your life sucks now but it will be great after you die , what ? Me no my life is great because I’m lucky so keep your head down and maybe you can have off an extra day if I can let you .
Notice those with money and riches claim not to be very happy but you don’t see them laying prostate and declaring a vow of poverty to find true enlightenment and endless happiness but you should be satisfied supplying them from your labor !