Combined DNA Index System (CODIS) & DNA Phenotyping

By Doug “Uncola” Lynn via TheBurningPlatform.com

Being a student of human nature, I find the psychology behind human interactions fascinating.  These would include actions and counteractions, motive, opportunity, risk management, strategic speculation, and the revelation of secrets.

Of course, since all of these apply to crimes of passion, if I’m scanning through TV stations and stumble across…. say…. a “Dateline NBC” episode where Lester Holt might be summarizing a murder investigation after the commercial break – if I watch for more than thirty seconds, I’m toast.  For me, it’s the crack cocaine of electronic distraction.  (And, yes, I realize it’s likely by design; otherwise, Dateline would go back to real-time news reporting).

Still, cold cases fascinate me, and when fresh developments occur, I always seem to learn something new.  For example, it’s now common knowledge that our cell phone texting becomes like public Twitter feeds whenever we’re accused of something sinister.  If you don’t believe that, just ask the FBI lovers Peter Strozk and Lisa Page.

So, this morning I stumbled across a line item that took me to the Des Moines Register regarding the 1979 murder of then eighteen-year old Michelle Martinko (pictured above). It turns out that authorities finally found her killer last night, which, coincidently, occurred exactly thirty-nine years ago to the day.

An amazing coincidence, indeed.

Not being familiar with the case, I researched it this morning and discovered the following (condensed) timeline of events:

 

December 19, 1979 – At approximately 6:30 p.m.: Michelle Martinko drove her family’s 1972 Buick Electra to a shopping mall in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. She had left a school banquet, and intended to purchase a new winter coat.

December 20, 1979 – at around 4:00 a.m.: Police found her body in the Buick in the parking lot of the mall.

October 2, 2006 – Investigators announced that they had discovered new DNA evidence in the case. They uploaded the new evidence into the Combined DNA Index System (CODIS). This database matches samples from unsolved crimes to samples from convicted offenders. No match was made through CODIS.

May 16, 2017 – Investigators used services from Parabon NanoLabs to do DNA phenotyping, a process that gives an estimate of physical appearance and ancestry using DNA samples. They used this process to create facial composites, which were released by the police department at a press conference.

December 19, 2018 – Based on DNA evidence that investigators collected covertly, they questioned 64-year-old Jerry Lynn Burns at his workplace in Manchester [Iowa], where he denied committing the alleged killing. He was unable to offer an alternative explanation for why his DNA would have been found at the crime scene.

 

Evidently, the crime laboratory found that “covertly collected DNA from Burns was a match to the blood found on the gear shift in Martinko’s car the night she was killed”.

In reading back through some of the old cold case files, including one from 2013, I learned:

 

Whoever stabbed Michelle to death had a personal relationship with her. Michelle had been repeatedly stabbed most notably in her beautiful face. This is a clear sign of a personable murder.

Michelle’s crime scene seems to say that she had to be erased from life, never to be remembered again. Michelle was not sexually assaulted and all her money was still in the car. This eliminates a number of motives for this crime and indicates… that whoever killed Michelle was not a stranger.

 

So, stabbing someone in the face implies a “personable murder” and is indicative of the desire to “erase” them.

Interesting.

But even more fascinating is the technology which, seemingly (according to this case), became available circa 2017, regarding DNA phenotyping whereby:

 

 …researchers found 15 loci in which genes are found that are responsible for our facial features.

 

This means, our DNA can be collected covertly, then profiled, and matched within a national database; complete with a photo of whatever age we were at the time.

Here is what that looked like in this case:

In the days prior to DNA Phenotyping, hypnotists extracted sketches from witnesses:

 

 

In 2017, using new DNA Phenotyping technology, average-out-of-samples were predicted:

 

 

Then variances assembled:

 

 

Then entered into the database:

 

 

Prior to the suspect being discovered and arrested:

 

Jerry Lynn Burns, age 64

 

Busted.  Exactly 39 years to the day.  Who knew?

The aforementioned 2013 cold-case article also included a sad update on Michelle Martinko’s mother and father; related, in part, by Michelle’s then-married sister, Janelle Stonebraker:

 

 …. Janet and Albert Martinko, never recovered from her [Michelle’s] death. Before the murder, Janet Martinko had been a lively, outgoing woman. Afterward, she didn’t want to be seen in public. She was reluctant even to go to the grocery store. Both Martinkos plunged themselves into painful seclusion and suffered from health problems until their deaths — Al in 1995, Janet in 1998.

They went to their graves believing an ex-boyfriend of Michelle’s had killed her, Janelle Stonebraker said. It turned out they were wrong.

 

As of this writing, however, on December 20, 2018, John Stonebraker, the husband of Michelle’s sister, Janelle, said in a statement:

 

Janelle and I are very pleased and grateful for the work of several generations of Cedar Rapids [Iowa] uniformed police and detectives in bringing Mr. Burns to justice. From the leadership on down, they never gave up.

The community can be very proud of its law enforcement, and for the tremendous comfort and support area residents have extended to our family over the thirty-nine years since Michelle’s death. Our heartfelt thanks to everyone.

The family will have no further comment until a later date. Mr. Burns is presumed innocent, and we look forward to the evidence showing otherwise.

 

The moral of the story?  Technology is like fire:  It can either warm you, or scorch you.  Think about it.

Author: Uncola

I am one who has found the road less traveled while remaining a whiskered, whispering witness to the world. I hope what you just considered was worth the price and time spent. www.TheTollOnline.com

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22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
December 21, 2018 6:25 am

Americas sick obsession with state-defined crime, state-issued punishment, and state-proffered justice [for the little people like themselves] has got to come to an end!

Please don’t fan the flames.

Please do post your monthly digest *early* for December, because in all my years I have never seen events and a news cycle like this week.

As to DNA to accurate facial images, I simply call bullshit. It’s right up there with the mass shooting hoaxes, the moon hoax, the nuckular weapons hoax, and so on.

Iwasntbornwithenufmiddlefingers
Iwasntbornwithenufmiddlefingers

DNA matters. It makes sense that genes define appearance. Otherwise you might have a random black child without a cheating wife. You look like your parents. Etc etc etc. Down voted you.

StackingStock
StackingStock
  Iwasntbornwithenufmiddlefingers
December 21, 2018 8:24 am

You can’t trust the government with anything. I up voted his comment and down voted yours.

Iwasntbornwithenufmiddlefingers
Iwasntbornwithenufmiddlefingers
  StackingStock
December 21, 2018 8:51 am

Lol. You cant trust government. No truer words ever uttered.

Uncola
Uncola

22WM says:

Please don’t fan the flames.

Please do post your monthly digest *early* for December, because in all my years I have never seen events and a news cycle like this week.

I hear what you’re sayin’ and I’m pickin’ up what you’re layin’ down. But, sometimes, you have to look away from the global chaos and towards something less disturbing. Like murder.

no one
no one
  Uncola
December 21, 2018 10:06 am

Am curious… do you think he is guilty? or is it a case of misplaced DNA?

Uncola
Uncola
  no one
December 21, 2018 2:24 pm

no one asks:

Am curious… do you think he is guilty?

Assuming your question was directed at me, I’ll just say “I don’t know”.

But what I found interesting were the 2017 DNA Phenotype “snapshots” compared to his 2018 mugshot. All near-direct hits regarding race, eyes (color, shape & separation/displacement, & brows), chin, cheekbones, nose, and ears (shape/placement).

The point is what I almost named this post: “Six Ways from Sunday“.

Honest Buck
Honest Buck
  Uncola
December 21, 2018 2:41 pm

He was older than her. maybe possessive. could be she rejected him sexually and why he wanted to erase her.

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no one
no one
  Uncola
December 21, 2018 8:38 pm

just wondered… thanks.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Uncola
December 21, 2018 11:04 am

Something less disturbing, like murder. My DNA finds humor in that.

Iwasntbornwithenufmiddlefingers
Iwasntbornwithenufmiddlefingers
December 21, 2018 7:06 am

23 and me and all these other dna kits feeding right into the database, just like putting your info into facebook. People paying to register everything about themselves into the borg collective. Dont touch anything a crook ever touched. And lets get those guns registered into that database along with all your personal health info.

Why is rolling stones “under my thumb” playin in my head?

22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
22winmag - Unreconstructedsouthernerbygraceofgod
  Iwasntbornwithenufmiddlefingers
December 21, 2018 7:23 am

From the KCRG story: “Along with being unable to explain why his DNA was at the crime scene…”

This is a steaming crockpot of shit. As a defendant you don’t have to explain shit. The prosecution has to prove you did shit beyond a reasonable doubt (or just fool a jury into rendering a guilty verdict with hocus pocus).

Whether or not his DNA was actually found at the crime scene has not been proven in fact. Whether or not the covertly collected DNA is actually his has not been proven in fact. Whether or not he murdered the girl has not been proven in fact.

That’s what trials are for.

This is just more CSI Miami television drama technology intended to send the little people a message: you are powerless and gonna get caught… so don’t resist us.

Iwasntbornwithenufmiddlefingers
Iwasntbornwithenufmiddlefingers

Thats what amuses me most about people supplying their dna to 23 and me et al. You just provided a sample for use later as needed, as well as adding yourself to the data base. Pure madness. You could push someone their cup at starbucks, they murder someone, and your dna is on the cup, and you are in the database. You lose. You make a political statement thats wrong, and your dna turns up at a crime scene you werent ever at. You lose.

Annie
Annie
  Iwasntbornwithenufmiddlefingers
December 22, 2018 9:37 pm

“Thats what amuses me most about people supplying their dna to 23 and me et al. You just provided a sample for use later as needed”

Worse than that – all of your relatives are now in the database too.

Uncola
Uncola

This is a steaming crockpot of shit. As a defendant you don’t have to explain shit. The prosecution has to prove you did shit beyond a reasonable doubt

I was thinking all the guy would have to do is say something like:

“Oh yeah, I remember now. I was working on my car and I just cut my hand and then she asked me to help her get her car out of gear. So I did.”

Or similar.

Would the jury believe it? Maybe so, because reasonable doubt, like plausible deniability, can come in handy at times.

Cricket
Cricket
  Iwasntbornwithenufmiddlefingers
December 21, 2018 7:40 am

Yes isn’t it curious that Anne Wojcicki (co-founder of 23 and me) and Sergey Brin (co-founder of Google) were married. Nothing to see there I’m sure.

The old USSR sought to surveil and control its citizens every move, meanwhile in the Western world people willingly turn over all aspects of their lives to big tech and the government without a thought to the possible consequences of doing so.

lamont cranston
lamont cranston
December 21, 2018 7:34 am

Years ago, a chick I dated turned on something calle “ID TV”. The show on was “Wives With Knives”.

Have learned one thing from that channel since.

Joe Kenda will get your fat ass some day.

Stucky
Stucky
  lamont cranston
December 21, 2018 11:00 am

From wiki …

“Joe Kenda is a retired Colorado Springs Police Department detective lieutenant who was involved in 387 homicide cases over a 23-year career, with a closure rate of 92%”

I watch the show also. One thing I learned ………… DON’T MOVE TO COLORADO SPRINGS!!!!

niebo
niebo
  Stucky
December 23, 2018 8:30 pm

Who knew that there were, per annum, 16.8 homicides in Colorado Springs while Joe Kenda was a detective? That’s a lot of killings in a city of less than 500,000.

Which, if that rate were current, would land it in the top 30 sh*tlist:

https://bismarcktribune.com/news/national/the-cities-with-the-highest-murder-rates-in-the-us/collection_5a789407-4d43-5403-ad56-7c47880bda8e.html#2

niebo
niebo
  niebo
December 24, 2018 9:01 am

Oooops . . . in the “maffs be hard” department:

16.8 homicides per year PER 500,000 people works out to be 3.36 homicides per 100,000 people, which is ACTUALLY nowhere near the rate required to make the top 30 sh*tlist.
In fact, it is about average for the entire population, at least as far as firearm “killings” goes:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/249805/homicide-by-firearm-rate-in-the-united-states/

Still, niebo goofed.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
December 21, 2018 7:53 am

More than one case has been cracked using DNA from 23 and Me and Ancestry.com.

I have heard calls for us to register our DNA..a terrible idea if you ask me. However, since they can get it covertly from medical testing I presume, it’s too late and our DNA is no longer private.

Was there any kind of connection between the victim and the accused?

no one
no one
  Mary Christine
December 21, 2018 8:18 am

I am now going to look for the year the mapping of the human genome completed, adding it later. *2003, see below.

For now, let me get this thought into keyboard. (Do you realize I almost typed “onto paper?”)

Human Genome Project
In 1990, the U.S Department of Energy and the National Institutes of Health (NIH) joined with international partners in an expedition to sequence all 3 billion chemical base pairs in the human genome which is the complete set of DNA in the human body. Originally, the project was organized to last 15 years but due to rapid technological advancements, it was completed in spring 2003 thus coinciding with the 50th anniversary of Watson and Crick’s model of the basic structure of DNA.

Here’s the thought: I can remember when a friend explained to me about her DNA tests showing a genetic predisposition to cancer, which led to her discovering a history of the disease in her maternal line, suggesting similar issues for her two daughters. How much information is available now via DNA data collection more than fifteen years later?

And, who collects that information? What, exactly, is a pre-existing condition? Could it exist in your genetic coding, waiting for environmental conditions to cause the gene to express? It would not be difficult for a good software engineer to come up with a way to analyze the issue and give us the probability of expression, given x and y conditions. Then, we could figure out the betting odds for insurance purposes.

How many people approach their catastrophic cap with insurance payments to medical facilities? I have done so more than once in my life, due to some real genetic flaws of my own. Well, it is my suspicion thatsince the people who do the billing in hospitals know which insurance companies will pay without too much question, they have padded the bills to approach the maximum they know the insurance company will be paid.

Now, how might insurance premiums and hospital billing be networked with DNA testing? I could come up with a scenario or two… but I have an overactive liking for the story.

Just like with anything else, you have to wonder just how much DNA you might have left just laying around on tissue papers, bandages or doctor’s offices, unbeknownst to you.

*Human Genome Project
In 1990, the U.S Department of Energy and the National Institutes of Health (NIH) joined with international partners in an expedition to sequence all 3 billion chemical base pairs in the human genome which is the complete set of DNA in the human body. Originally, the project was organized to last 15 years but due to rapid technological advancements, it was completed in spring 2003 thus coinciding with the 50th anniversary of Watson and Crick’s model of the basic structure of DNA.

no one
no one
  no one
December 21, 2018 10:12 am

Pasted that twice, but is interesting information for those looking for causality. Especially this line…”due to rapid technological advancements, it was completed in spring 2003, thus coinciding with the 50th anniversary…”

Five decades from discovery by Watson and Crick to complete mapping. And, once mapped, then manipulation, right? Has any capability technology granted us been ignored?

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
December 21, 2018 7:57 am

“The moral of the story? Technology is like fire: It can either warm you, or scorch you. Think about it.”

I vote scorch. What was the name of that Tom Cruise movie about a pre-crime police division?

Of course “they” tell us technology is wonderful and sell it as helpful and beneficial, however it’s being used to construct an electronic prison that you may be able to check out from but never ever leave.

Guitar solo begins to rip…

TJF
TJF
  grace country pastor
December 21, 2018 8:42 am

Minority Report was the pre-crime movie.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  TJF
December 21, 2018 1:12 pm

Dang, I always thought Minority Report was a record of illegals voting.

Then again, it would be the same as pre-crime.

TJF
TJF
December 21, 2018 8:45 am

I remember a case about 15 years ago when I lived in VA where a house under construction burned. Arson was deemed the cause. A few days later they arrested the kid who did it. Solved the crime because they found a cigarette butt at the scene and got DNA from it that was a match to the guy who was already in their database.

People who commit crimes for the most part have no idea what they are up against.

22winmag - Q is a Psyop and Trump is lead actor
22winmag - Q is a Psyop and Trump is lead actor
  TJF
December 21, 2018 8:52 am

Juries, for the most part, have no idea what is being presented to them as “evidence”.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
December 21, 2018 8:48 am

Sheer quackerie…

Dirtperson Steve
Dirtperson Steve
December 21, 2018 8:57 am

It’s too late for privacy. Even if you have been smart enough to not take those tests there is no doubt someone genetically related to you has. Then, using math and probabilities they can find you.

For instance: You share 50% of the gene from each parent, 25% from each grandparent and so on. Some genes only come from mom or dad. That is how they closed several this summer including one in Washington.

They knew from the database that the killer was a 2nd cousin of 1 person and cousin to another, or something like that. All they had to do was narrow the list down then steal a sample from a suspect.

4% of the population. That is what I have read they need to find anyone. Couple that with your GPS tracking device (cell phone) and The State knows who you are and where you are whenever they want.

22winmag - Q is a Psyop and Trump is lead actor
22winmag - Q is a Psyop and Trump is lead actor
  Dirtperson Steve
December 21, 2018 3:22 pm

Even if true, what the hell is the state going to do about it?

Load up the already over-maximum prisons?

Send more cops they can’t afford and who demand more pay and benefits every year?

The goobermint couldn’t catch a criminal without an informant AND entrapment to save it’s life.

Grizzly Bare
Grizzly Bare
December 21, 2018 9:44 am

“The moral of the story? Technology is like fire: It can either warm you, or scorch you. Think about it.”

It will scorch you. When the Nazis gain power and they’ve eliminated all the Jews, Niggers, Spics and Ragheads this will be the tool they use to figure out who’s next. Most of the countries Hitler invaded were countries of western culture. The were all white. Just not the right kind of white.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Grizzly Bare
December 21, 2018 11:14 am

Grizzly..
You spout that Nazi stuff so casually, as if it’s “settled science”.
They pale in comparison to the Commies.

Grizzly Bare
Grizzly Bare
  Fleabaggs
December 21, 2018 7:31 pm

I know it was imprudent, but that chain was just dangling there in front of my face daring me to yank it. The commies do have an impressive body count that is to be envied by any good collectivist.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Grizzly Bare
December 21, 2018 11:49 am

The Nazis were allies with the Muzzies. There was a Waffen SS division of Bosnian Muslims.

22winmag - Q is a Psyop and Trump is lead actor
22winmag - Q is a Psyop and Trump is lead actor
  Harrington Richardson
December 21, 2018 3:23 pm

Yes- the only foreign fighting unit allowed to wear the SS patch, because they were good at hunting down the allied resistance.

Grog
Grog
  Harrington Richardson
December 22, 2018 12:18 am

“The Nazis were allies with the Muzzies.”

Only in an effort to get the Arc of the Covenant.

October Sky
October Sky
  Grizzly Bare
December 21, 2018 1:38 pm

Most of the countries Hitler invaded were countries of western culture. The were all white. Just not the right kind of white.

First, I was impressed with your first TBP submission.

The allies qualify for inducing this statement: Germans were not the right kind of white.

Groups of German minorities in various countries lived in harsh conditions during this time.

The research by Dr. Friedrich Stieve in What the World Rejected: Hitler’s Peace Offers 1933-1940 outlines the intentions of the National Socialist.

While some may benefit from warmth, the working class are usually first to be torched by these tools.

Uncola
Uncola
December 21, 2018 10:12 am

Wasn’t expecting this one to be featured, but I’ll take it. Once again, great comments and perspectives have ensued.

BB
BB
  Uncola
December 21, 2018 10:47 am

I was watching a show and I think it was ” Cold Case ” using similar technology they arrested a man that killed a police officer in 1968 .You might have seen it. I was amazed at how they did it but I will never forget them saying that our DNA never leaves the crime scene .

22winmag - Q is a Psyop and Trump is lead actor
22winmag - Q is a Psyop and Trump is lead actor
  BB
December 21, 2018 3:25 pm

… but I will never forget them saying that our DNA never leaves the crime scene .

That’s the tip off that’s it a psyop (aka fake).

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Uncola
December 22, 2018 12:26 am

cola,
i also used to watch lots of those crime shows–the wife would ask why i watched those shows so much–
“research baby,research”–

Uncola
Uncola
  TampaRed
December 22, 2018 1:18 am

Lol

Dan
Dan
December 21, 2018 10:36 am

I get kind of fascinated with those cold case shows too. Sometimes it’s pretty clever how even some small-town police officer catches a crook using forensics and DNA. What really got to me, though, were several shows done on using DNA evidence to clear somebody who had been in prison for years. These usually involved the Innocence Project (Barry Scheck) and were mostly about evidence that had been collected at the time of a crime that could absolutely exonerate the convicted person if they were allowed to test it using modern methods.

Invariably, the courts, district attorneys, and police fight tooth and nail to keep the evidence from being re-examined. They absolutely don’t give a shit if they guy in prison is guilty or not; they just want their conviction scorecard looking good. It sometimes took years just for the courts to finally consent to new testing. All the time, the prisoner is insisting and pleading that they allow the tests, knowing that the evidence will absolutely show either his innocence or guilt. That fact alone would give an honest judge or DA a strong incentive to allow it. Apparently, though, there are no honest judges or DAs. An innocent man has to rot while they do everything they can to keep him locked up.

Anybody that thinks the criminal “justice” system is there to protect them should watch a few of these.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Dan
December 22, 2018 12:23 am

dan,
the problem w/retesting old evidence is the fact that most of them claim innocence–
the barry scheck types usually have a pretty good idea of who is innocent and who is not innocent–let them pay for all the tests & then if there client is innocent we’ll pay them 2x the cost of the test–

Old Shoe
Old Shoe
December 21, 2018 11:00 am

I’ve watched enough Forensic Files, Datelines and ID Investigations to know you don’t really need DNA.
It usually boils down to the culprit being one of three individuals. The Maintenance Man, the Spouse or the Security Guard.

yahsure
yahsure
  Old Shoe
December 21, 2018 1:02 pm

Most likely some ugly dude who hadn’t gotten laid, like forever and the fact that he couldn’t get with that good looking blonde drove him nuts. I am not into whores but if prostitution was to be made legal it would save lives and decrease the rape numbers. Being a new source of tax revenue would be a plus.

Big Ed
Big Ed
  yahsure
December 21, 2018 5:58 pm

And don’t forget, it would create alot of jobs..!!( handjobs, blowjobs, etc.)

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Old Shoe
December 22, 2018 12:18 am

a woman from here in tampa was recently murdered at a resort by a security guard–

Grog
Grog
  Old Shoe
December 22, 2018 12:21 am

You forgot the Butler.

Unproven
Unproven
  Grog
December 22, 2018 1:23 am

But, in the old days, it was the butcher who made the baker and the candlestick maker look like rank amateurs.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
December 21, 2018 11:19 am

As I was reading my thoughts kept going back to Pre Crime that GCP mentioned but with Orwellian scenarios like Pre Crime Gun Control.

EL Coyote (EC)
EL Coyote (EC)
  Fleabaggs
December 22, 2018 2:19 am

I got your back, Fleabo, see my Eerie Creaking post.

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow
December 21, 2018 11:55 am

Burns didn’t look anything like any of the generated pictures. Also, does anyone not think that technology can be wrong or that it can be abused and or manipulated? Chip

Uncola
Uncola
  SmallerGovNow
December 21, 2018 2:32 pm

He would have been age 25 in 1979. Which, in my opinion, looks to be fairly approximate for the Phenotype snapshots. In my spare time, I’ve been casually searching to find a photo of the suspect near that age. Nothing yet.

StackingStock
StackingStock
  SmallerGovNow
December 21, 2018 5:41 pm

You mean like framing political dissidents or something.

no one
no one
  SmallerGovNow
December 22, 2018 5:49 am

I think so.

AC
AC
December 21, 2018 12:03 pm

Is the css sheet for this site hiding text between ’em’ tags for some reason? None of the text between ’em’ tags is being rendered, and not just on this page.

no one
no one
  AC
December 22, 2018 5:50 am

?

AC
AC
  no one
December 22, 2018 12:06 pm

In the article, the line:

So, stabbing someone in the face implies a “” and is indicative of the desire to “” them.

There is supposed to be text between the “” and “” – but it’s not being rendered by Firefox. Either FF fucked something up (again) in their latest release, or the css used for article pages on this site is doing something weird with ’em’ tags and hiding text between them, or perhaps one of the plugins I use is being retarded.

No clue. So sick of broken tech shit.

Update 1 – Found the problem – It’s a plugin: uBlock Origin is doing it for some insane reason. I hate this shit.

Update 2 – The problem is in their ‘cosmetic filtering’ feature.

no one
no one
  AC
December 22, 2018 5:35 pm

Thanks for the reply. Really, I haven’t seen a term like em tags for ten years.

JIMSKI
JIMSKI
December 21, 2018 1:01 pm

Recent fella got popped through DNA for a murder due to his brother giving some geneology company his DNA. The DNA info was sold and integrated into CODIS. In the ” fine print ” they tell you they will do this. This was used by detectives to look for relatives of this brother and they traced him to her workplace.

Or they could be wrong like this guy.

https://www.wired.com/2015/10/familial-dna-evidence-turns-innocent-people-into-crime-suspects/

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
December 21, 2018 4:18 pm

The technology has existed for well over a decade now to actually “create” DNA fragments from the base pairs and other raw materials. Once you have the genetic sequence you want, you just input it into the machine and out pops custom-built DNA. Sprinkle a little on a crime scene, and the intended “target” never even has to be on the same continent as the crime and their DNA will be there. The process was invented by an Israeli corporation by the way (not sure if there were under contract with anyone special at the time).

Anonymous
Anonymous
  MrLiberty
December 21, 2018 7:33 pm

My question is: when the DNA “doesn’t match” is it because they don’t have enough similar markers to conclude it is a match, or is it they do have enough and the markers don’t match the suspect DNA? –mainly thinking of these cases where the guy gets freed 30 years later. Has the original sample/evidence degraded?

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Anonymous
December 22, 2018 3:10 pm

Lots of factors come into play, including massive fraud at the testing lab (remember the story of the drug lab that was faking results for over a decade resulting in tens of thousands of convictions). The bottom line is that there is only so much accuracy, but the JURY is NEVER ALLOWED to hear about these truths. And sadly, in our current system, the DA, the Judge, the Jury, and sometimes the defense attorney, are ALL paid by the state, and the DA and judge BOTH benefit from convictions (for future campaigning purposes), regardless of how many innocents they put behind bars. Additionally, of course there is the issues you bring up. Poor police work results from an over-reliance on “technology” or “science” to convict. Before all of this technology, convictions happened because police cared to do a good job. More resources now go to victimless crimes and statutory crimes, thus reducing the budget for police to focus on REAL crimes.

skycat
skycat
December 21, 2018 10:12 pm

To quote an old circuit judge I once knew ” By god, we can do anything we want to”. He was talking about himself and the county sheriff.

PMadison
PMadison
December 22, 2018 5:03 am

And still no leads on who killed Seth Rich.

Uncola
Uncola
  PMadison
December 22, 2018 7:18 am

Isn’t it somethin’? That very thought had crossed my mind too. Perhaps because political assassins commit no crimes of passion

no one
no one
December 22, 2018 7:31 am

Okie Dokie, why not here?

I was up early this a.m., having narrowly escaped a Holiday gathering at a friend’s home by a last-minute pact with my husband when we arrived to see a dozen or more vehicles parked around her lovely home.

“Okay,” I said, reading my husband’s mind from his barely audible groan. “We drop off the gift basket, grab a glass, mingle and meet back out here in a few minutes.”

All went pretty much according to plan.

However, my friend was a bit shocked to see how thin I’ve gotten in just the few months since we visited. But, she had a houseful of guests to entertain, so she left me talking to a woman whose story about a burst cyst in her breast, literally rubbing the sore area as she described it, causing my poor husband to exit down the hallway and out a side door, where he played with the big white dog just like ours (this woman loved my Jake Pyr so much she tried to buy him from me… AS IF! Her dog, Jackson, enjoyed the attention from my husband) until I joined him a few minutes later. I asked him if he’d heard about the ruptured boob cyst and he just asked me to keep it to myself.

So, I will.

Just a couple of years ago, I would have arrived a bit buzzed on Chardonnay, had a drink or two (or six) and either staggered to the car to be driven home or stayed over, as my friend had suggested. My husband would have eventually settled into the group of men settling into chairs near a television, while the diehard drinkers and most of the women sipping wine continued to grow more and more charming and exuberant as they drank themselves into the final stupor before sitting/laying/falling down.

I’m not glad for this illness which led to surgery which led to more surgery which led to here which is the recovery road. I am, however, glad my viewpoint on social drinking has changed.

It is interesting what changes over time. I read this ancient article written almost 9 years ago and realized how very much has changed about our country and our culture in less than twenty years. Yet, how very much remains the same.

https://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=5745

This was a simple comment (a noncontroversial one… you should go take a peek at how enraged Admin used to get at every single truther who showed up!) “A wonderful read, thought-provoking and, I think, quite accurate about our society and our nation at this point; I sometimes feel as if we are in the heavy, still moments before the lightning strikes; it’s as if we’re on the verge of something and the country is collectively holding its breath, waiting for the event to occur, whatever it may be.”

Can you believe, with all the advances in technology, we are still arguing about the “event” that changed us all when we should be trying to make the next time around better?

It really is a very good article and it is a shame the comments did not develop into discussion about what to do instead of what was done.

That’s probably it for a while. It will be busy around here.

Uncola
Uncola
  no one
December 22, 2018 8:19 am

@ no one,

For the record, I was once a raging neocon who, like Bush the Younger, desired to plant seeds of democracy around the world with bullets and bombs.

Also, when I came to TBP, I was 100% sure we landed on the moon. Now, it’s less than that; based, in large part, upon the comments, posts, and links here.

No one has all the answers. That’s why it’s so crucial to ask the questions and have the discussions.

It’s a process and, fortunately, time reveals all things.

Until then…
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no one
no one
  Uncola
December 22, 2018 9:41 am

Whilst doing dishes, I stumbled upon this interesting video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6omYRFWwQ6g

StackingStock
StackingStock
  no one
December 22, 2018 1:56 pm

I was a SGT reader until he became a Q-tipper. I no longer follow him.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  no one
December 22, 2018 3:31 pm

thanks,someone–
good post

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
December 22, 2018 3:23 pm

The devil’s roll-a-dex……….’Will modern science play a role in the coming of Apollo?’

TampaRed
TampaRed
December 22, 2018 4:40 pm

this is not about dna but it is about privacy,a very short article–
in european union countries,the big tech companies must disclose to their customers what info they have on the customer if the customer asks for it–
a guy in germany asked for his info & amazon sent it to him–
unfortunately,they also sent him many hours of another guy’s alexa recordings–the guy who received the recordings was bothered by it so he gave them to a reporter–
though amazon did not identify the person,because of the content of the recordings,the reporter was able to identify the guy,his girlfriend,and some of his friends & associates,and to make contact w/him–
between this & the blurb rins threw out a couple of days ago about the google home,there’s a privacy article waiting here for one of you guys to write–

https://godfatherpolitics.com/a-real-high-tech-nightmare-amazon-accidentally-gives-man-someone-elses-private-alexa-recordings/

Uncola
Uncola
December 22, 2018 8:33 pm

The top photos are the hypnotist and DNA Phenotype #1 at age 25. The bottom would be HS year-book (circa early 1970s). Supposedly, he had a wife kill herself in 2008 and a cousin go missing in 2014. Ya wonder

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