Here’s What an American Economic Collapse Could Actually Look Like (And How It May Be a Lot Different Than Folks Expect)

Guest Post by Daisy Luther

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When we think of “economic collapse” our imaginations usually lead us immediately to the desperation we’ve witnessed in places like Venezuela or Greece. We think of starvation, a complete lack of medical care, and waves of suicide by people who simply can’t survive. We imagine an apocalyptic societal breakdown that is immediately visible.

Here in America, I suspect the collapse is going to look a lot different than it has in these other countries…at least, at first. And in my description, it’s entirely likely you’ll see that many of these signs have been happening all around us for years.

It will be gradual.

The thing with collapses that we see in the media is that we are seeing the end results of events that have been slowly declining for years. Venezuela was one of the wealthiest countries in the world back until the mid-1980s, due to their rich oil reserves. Then oil prices collapsed and their fall began. It was actually several decades though before it was truly evident that the country was in trouble.

Preparedness bloggers here have been sounding the warning bell since 2008 (at least) when our economy went into a recession. While the US managed to dig its way out of that to at least an illusion of renewed prosperity, it’s questionable how much of that return was real and how much of it was propaganda.

It’s unlikely that we’ll see just one event that says clearly to everyone, “Hey, our economy has collapsed. The Great Depression 2.0 has arrived, today, January 14, 2019, due to X event.”

Instead, we’ll continue to see signs like a lack of full-time jobs with benefits, growing student and consumer debt, more people who can’t afford rent and food, and more stores closing their doors forever in an ongoing retail apocalypse.

Because of the ready availability of credit cards and loans, things don’t seem that bad. People are still shopping for frivolous things. They’re still spending billions on Christmas. They’re still eating out at restaurants.

But just because that “money” is being spent does not mean that people are okay financially.

It will seem like it’s just individual families having a hard time.

The way things are going down in America, it doesn’t seem like we’re facing a national crisis. Consumers are consuming. People are working – just look at those “jobs” numbers. Folks are still having barbecues with the neighbors, hosting extravagant holiday get-togethers, and avidly following the football season.

But the American dream isn’t actually that dreamy. Because beneath all the trappings of our pleasant lives, people are right on the verge of a crisis.

40% of Americans could not handle an unexpected expense of only $400 without having to sell something they own. 78% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. That means that only one missed paycheck will be a financial disaster for the majority of Americans.

And when that missed paycheck or unexpected expense comes, people will completely blame themselves. They’ll silently feel like failures and not realize that the entire system is crumbling all around them. They will believe it is only their family, due to their own bad decisions, that is suffering.

Sure, we could all make better choices from time to time. We could skip those vacations or spend less on the kids at Christmas or go on the beans-and-rice-and-apples diet. We could eschew credit cards, live beneath our means, and go full-Spartan with our lifestyles.

Sometimes the money problems are out of our hands.

But even with the very best personal economic decisions, a lot of things are out of our hands. What if a family member becomes seriously ill, with heaven forbid, a heart attack or cancer? Even with health insurance (which a growing number of middle-class families, mine included, cannot afford), the out of pocket costs will be astronomical. And that’s not even factoring in the long-term loss of the sick person’s income. Total financial disaster and it’s not something that can be avoided.

Or what if your vehicle is totaled by an uninsured driver? Even when your own insurance covers what you’ve paid off on your vehicle, what if you just break even and then can’t afford another vehicle? Then you can’t get to work…then you can’t pay your bills…then, again, a disaster not of your own making has struck.

Any time you see a family suffering financially, you must understand that very few of us are immune to money problems. We all handle these financial catastrophes differently and we all use the skills and talents we have to deal with them. Some of us are more fortunate than others – we’re able to pick up second and third jobs. We’re able to slash our expenses more relentlessly. Maybe we live in areas that are ripe with employment opportunities, instead of economically depressed small towns. We may not have poor health or sick children who require 24-hour care and supervision.

Heck – once you add in children at all, you’re paying for daycare every time you go to work. I know that when my kids were little and I was a single mom, I had to take a second job just to cover my daycare costs, which, in the summer, were as much as my rent. I worked seven days a week for years and lost so much time with my children that it broke my heart.

It’s really easy to look down on others who are having a hard time with money but always remember that just one crisis could put each of us in that place. We’re living in a system that is designed to put us in that place.

The divide will get bigger.

In the United States, we’re watching a disappearing act that unfortunately is no illusion. We’re watching the middle class vanish. Remember when it was common for just about everyone to have trappings like houses, two cars in the driveway, and kids who play baseball in the summer and take gymnastics lessons in the winter? Lifestyles that used to put us firmly right in the middle class are harder and harder to achieve. And it isn’t just that Americans are lazy and addicted to spending money they don’t have.

The biggest blow I can think of to the middle class was the inappropriately named Affordable Care Act (Obamacare).  While that helped a lot of people who couldn’t afford any healthcare at all, with subsidies and low-to-no deductibles, for the rest of us who had a reasonable plan before, it was financially apocalyptic. There was story after story of families paying thousands of dollars per month for shoddy care that didn’t kick in until $10,000 had been spent out of pocket. This took formerly middle-class families and pushed them into the poverty level. But because their ridiculous monthly insurance payments weren’t write-offs, they couldn’t get subsidized. Talk about irony – the ACA impoverished people and then wouldn’t cover their healthcare.

When I talk about the divide, I’m not referring to so-called “income inequality.” That will always exist because we all have different skills, and different skills are worth differing amounts of money.

I’m talking about a divide in lifestyle. I’m talking about how people who work often two and three jobs can barely manage to survive. It’s a real problem when all we do is work and we can’t spend time raising our children to be good and productive members of society.

Don’t get me wrong – rich folks can spend their money however they want. But at some point, their glaring frivolity is going to paint a Marie-Antoinette-style target on their backs. Regular people who could pay for a year of living comfortably with one of the Birkin bags in their collections of $20,000 purses are getting increasingly ticked off of the way things are going in this country.

Eventually, things that are normal will become luxuries.

While things are tough, even some of our poorest citizens still have it better than 2/3 of the world’s population. Most of us have roofs over our heads, heat in the winter, running water, food, and electricity to run our refrigerators.

But that could change.

As our economy plummets and our national debt soars, we could see the things that we all take for granted today could become luxuries tomorrow. Imagine if the ordinary trappings that we’ve always had became as out of reach for most of us as a Lamborghini in the driveway.

What if only rich people could afford electricity? What about heat? What about running water?  What if that divide between the rich and the poor could be delineated by who had the ability to turn on a light at the flick of a switch and who did not?

Many people worry about an event like a solar flare that would wipe out electrical power, casting us back about 200 years.  We’d have no refrigeration, no transportation, no climate control, and no lights. But in that situation, we’d all be in the same boat. No matter how wealthy you are, any unprotected electrical items would still be useless.

What if that’s what the economic collapse looks like?

What if the real threat was simply that no one could afford to pay the electric bill?  What if prices escalated to the point that it was a choice between food and electricity?  What if, home by home, the lights went out across America?

And what about running water? A few years back, in Jefferson County, Alabama, the price of water quadrupled, making monthly water bills over $300.

Jefferson County in Alabama is the state’s most populous county and also its poorest. One of the poorest of those poor areas is Birmingham, Jefferson County’s largest city. Here water and sewerage bills have quadrupled in the last 15 years and with combined sewerage and water bills coming in at around $300 a month, this leaves the same amount out of the average social security cheque of $600 a month to cover everything else, food, clothing, and all other utilities. Low paid workers, of which there are many fare no better.

Many people have opted to buy drums of water from petrol stations rather than pay their ever increasing bills. They use these drums of water for drinking, washing and in their portable toilets which can be seen dotting back yards across the area, the modern version of the outhouse. They pay a fee to a sanitation company to remove the waste. It’s cheaper than letting the city take care of it. (source)

So imagine if this kind of thing became even more widespread. What if you had to be rich to have electricity and running water?

This is how it could happen.

What if it’s just an incremental crumbling of our way of life, one household at a time?

No bank runs. No government confiscation of resources. No dramatic event that we can all point to and say, “This is how the American economy was destroyed on (pick a date).”

Instead, it becomes harder and harder to pay your necessary bills. You go deeper and deeper into debt trying to pay for things like medical bills and food. Your job, if you keep it, doesn’t provide increases in pay to match the increases in the costs of living because the person running the business is just trying to survive too.

Then you re-evaluate what necessities are. You think about what you can work around. Which is more important? Medicine or childcare? Running water or electricity? Rent or food?

This is the future for which we should be preparing.

Stop expecting some huge event and look at the decline that’s already happening all around you. Think about your options in a world where only rich people can afford electricity and running water and food all at the same time.

Maybe the epic disaster everyone has been preparing for is slowing happening right now. It isn’t really that farfetched, is it?

Maybe the disaster is the crumbling of our First World lifestyle due to unsustainable debt and consumerism. Maybe it’s how they roll out the socialist utopia that control freaks all seem to desire. If everyone is desperate to survive or to regain their former luxuries, how hard would it be to manipulate them into a comfortable control grid?

If you want to maintain your independence, then self-reliance is survival.

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thetruthonly
thetruthonly
January 14, 2019 5:24 pm

The homeless tent city is getting bigger here, by the day almost. They figured if they pitch tents on State highway land next to the freeways, but behind fences and barriers, the city won’t do much. They are right, the city would rather have them all there and there than all over town. Rent control will become a bigger thing, and a more authoritarian state. America had two chances, Ross Perot and Ron Paul, and they blew it (Ross.blew it for himself too).

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  thetruthonly
January 14, 2019 6:08 pm

Perot was the first vote u ever caste.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  Donkey Balls
January 14, 2019 10:26 pm

I meant, Perot was the first vote I ever cast.

no one
no one
  thetruthonly
January 14, 2019 7:44 pm

My husband and I voted for Ross.

I’ve noticed several land sales bringing families in with multiple RVs and small campers, which are left on place year round for hunting and just in case bugout purpose. A large group right next to the retired US Marine and his group.

I predict a different kind of white flight from urban centers.

Edit: I just can’t use that email addy anymore can I?

no one
no one
  no one
January 14, 2019 7:45 pm

No, you cannot.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  no one
January 15, 2019 4:28 am

For anybody with land, that’s a great business venture. Many are going to RVs and trailers. Rent your land to these people and use the money to stock up for the hard times. If they’re good people, you have a like-minded community. Kick out the crazies and the trouble makers. Wish I had a parcel of land. That’s exactly what I would do.

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  thetruthonly
January 15, 2019 12:26 pm

The past few weeks, i Have made several drives back and forth on Highway 99 (also referred to as the Spine of the Central Valley of California)from Modesto through Stockton to Sacramento, the epidemic of homelessness and slow economic collapse that Daisy mentions is clearly evident. Tents line the highway at certain spots. The tent cities in each respective city continue to swell and will only get worse! This is a product of the 2008-2009 first leg of this Uber Depression along with the rampant opioid and meth epidemics that usually are associated with homelessness.

It will get much worse before it gets any better. The global restructuring of standard of living in full effect, the West being pushed downward while the East, Africa and Latin America being brought up to meet somewhere in the middle.

All the while the wealth gap between our neo feudal overlords and the 99 percent continues to widen.

CCRider
CCRider
January 14, 2019 5:57 pm

This gal makes great sense. The PTB have learned that if you keep slow steady pressure to ratchet down on muricans you can take a sizeable portion of them along for the ride. That’s what all that bait and switch ‘hope’ bullshit is about like obummer with health care or the Orange Crusader with immigration. Just keep the red/blue circle jerk going with the rabble divided and pitted against one another using ruses like RUSSIA! or clinton’s uranium one scam (which they will get away with) and THEY keep raking it in, all the while tightening the screws.

Daisy is a real asset.

Stucky
Stucky
January 14, 2019 6:29 pm

That’s one of the most sensible “collapse” articles I’ve read in a long time.

One other sign of collapse —-> Congress will become increasingly infested with homos, lesbies, SJWs, snowflakes, Socialists, Commies, nigs, nogs, mooslimfuks, etc. (Note: search pictures of incoming Freshman Congress!)

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Stucky
January 15, 2019 4:31 am

The House has already collapsed. Your example is the perfect example. The Senate is getting close. After all, Congress has the lowest poll ratings of all of government. They’re a laughing stock.

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
January 14, 2019 6:35 pm

I’m convinced Democrats will not labor to grow vegetables or raise livestock when food becomes scarce, but they will riot and raise Hell. That will be a Historic Event with a notable start date, that will soon become the end of them in the History of Mankind. Reminds me of the Story of the Rainbow.

unit472
unit472
  robert h siddell jr
January 14, 2019 7:21 pm

The underclass has been put on notice that Food Stamps may not arrive in February. Rather than get off their asses and take one on those low paying jobs you are right. They will riot and make their communities even more horrible places than they are now.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  unit472
January 14, 2019 10:37 pm

Honestly, I want to see it happen.

Big Dick
Big Dick
January 14, 2019 6:58 pm

Where the hell have you been? Great insight and great suggestions to the ultimate shit storm that is coming. You still have a bit of time to prepare. Listen to the lady since you have not listened to me. GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE STOCK MARKET NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

doug
doug
  Big Dick
January 14, 2019 7:39 pm

And get out of the cities ASAP!

Long Time Lurker
Long Time Lurker
  Big Dick
January 14, 2019 9:40 pm

Wrong. Get out of all .gov bonds. Stop only thinking domestic capital, think global savings! World wide flight to quality will be to private blue U.S. chips this time, esp as the EURO the the YEN implodes. The blue chips of the U.S. stock market represent actual companies that make necessary day to day products, and own buildings and machinery. International Bond market DWARFS the U.S. stock market by a factor of 10. A 10% move from the global bond market into U.S equities would send the markets nuts! Meanwhile, all the talking heads ask themselves, “the economy is tanking, so why is stock market is booming!?!”

Cause all . gov bonds are doomed after 30 + years of falling rates…

What screams EURO Failure? Neg rates on three year German bonds, 1.5 % on 30 year? That’s scared big money looking for Deutsche Marks after the collapse!

How bout them Japanese ? 10 year Yen bonds @ a whooping .03%! Or go for the 40 year Yen bond @ .79% !!!

Then the surplus states like Illinois? LMFAO .

We are screwed
We are screwed
  Long Time Lurker
January 15, 2019 8:32 am

Lurker, nearly spot on IMO. USa Blue chip core biz is key. Things that make an entire economy thats running at basic core levels will survive I feel. Having stock in them may be the only “safe” place. But still you may lose 50% and just may be happy with that amount of loss after seeing everything else totally collapse. 50% loss is a win in some cases!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  We are screwed
January 15, 2019 11:05 am

Not Procter & Gamble.
See 1-15-19 post on Gillette.

Martin
Martin
  Long Time Lurker
January 15, 2019 9:39 am

Let’s see .. Choice One invest in Banks, Defense, and Health companies shortly before those get slashed in the next federal budget or collapse as the Ponzi schemes that they are. Or Choice Two invest in a small plot of land, old tractors & trucks I can fix, a ’tiller, chickens and a green house.
Do I live for money on a spreadsheet and hope that I die before it collapses ? or would I rather not care much about the collapse live better now and survive a future collapse nicely.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Big Dick
January 14, 2019 10:33 pm

AND DIE BROKE!!!!

We are screwed
We are screwed
  Big Dick
January 15, 2019 8:28 am

My entire job/income depends on the market. Since 2005 i have feared losing everything . All i can do is stay debt free, stack cash, prep, and be ready to live off what i have, whats been saved and secured as i have few other marketable skills. Trying to become more skilled at homesteading as a backup. For last 13 years its been like class. Learning but not practicing. This year i will put into motion the action part and practicing all that “paper” knowledge. Yeah, lets see how this works out……best is a 50/50 until many kinks of the real world are worked out i am sure. Oh what fun ima bout have…..

unit472
unit472
January 14, 2019 7:10 pm

True. I remember after Hurricanes Katrina and Rita wrecked the gas fields in the Gulf of Mexico natural gas prices soared to $15/per thousand cubic feet at the Henry Hub in Louisiana. The municipal utility I worked for couldn’t find ANYONE offering long term supply contracts so we had to buy on the spot market.

What did that mean? Well, in part, it brought about the collapse in home prices. Our phones were ringing off the hook from people who had bought new homes only to find that heating them cost almost as much per month in winter as their mortgage payment. They didn’t see that coming and had no way to both heat their house and pay the mortgage. When its 20 degrees at night you will HEAT your house.

Its a distant memory now with gas prices in the $3-4 dollar range thanks to fracking but it shows how a problem in one area can spread and bring ruin to millions.

doug
doug
January 14, 2019 7:41 pm

Find a copy of “Possum living” or “Your money or your life” , both outdated. My question is just when the time comes to search and destroy the vermin who initiated all this? (those still alive) Pick one and go….

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  doug
January 15, 2019 4:35 am

Both of those are good recommendations.

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
  Ned
January 14, 2019 11:43 pm

Not enough deer in urban areas; gonna be eat’n a lot of long pork.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  robert h siddell jr
January 15, 2019 12:18 am

sick robby,sick —

22winmag - Stop breaking crosses off war memorials
22winmag - Stop breaking crosses off war memorials
January 14, 2019 7:54 pm

Ya’ll know my position on this doom porn shit.

However, I really have to ask- who the hell is still voting in nation elections and not dodging taxes with everything they have?

A.B. Prosper
A.B. Prosper

Because the problem isn’t taxes or government, its corruption and wealth extraction by the rich.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  A.B. Prosper
January 14, 2019 10:25 pm

It’s both, and they are almost the same thing, with the rich making billions off Pentagon and other government contracts.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  A.B. Prosper
January 14, 2019 11:27 pm

the fsa is worse then the corruption by the corrupt influencers–
when a defense company keeps a production line going for unneeded planes or tanks because influential pols are able to appropriate the $ for it,it causes economic distortion but at least some jobs are created from it & it does not cause social dysfunction–
with welfare,ebt,etc.,it is mostly $ down the drain & it causes all kinds of social dysfunction–

A
A
January 14, 2019 8:25 pm

Oh BS. Pick up a dictionary and look up collapse. It doesn’t say a slow motion decades long decay. I don’t disagree that we’re seeing that right before our eyes but don’t call it collapse. It’s called decline and we’ve been in that for my entire 40 years.

Personally I prefer not to pervert words. Collapse means a structural failure. That’s rather sudden, although the foundation of the problem can go back generations. It’s when you ignore the problem and don’t correct it when there ultimately will be a trigger event and the shit will hit the proverbial fan. So the house has got termites and the foundation is cracked…sooner or later a storm will come along and blow the fucker down. THAT is what I think is coming. That’s when we will all know “this is collapse.”

We are screwed
We are screwed
  A
January 15, 2019 8:38 am

In the time frame of a hundred years, something that collapses in or over a 8-12 year period would be considered a “collapse”. Economies are large and collapse can take decades. Whereas an idividual losing his job and having 90 days savings will collapse in 90 days. People ask whatbhappened to uncle joe when he was 38. He lost everything and “collapsed” and now is homeless….collapse is defined by the normal life chcle of things and the cyclical nature of it and if it ends abruptly its a collapse….use some critical thinking skills people.

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  A
January 15, 2019 6:12 pm

As Bernie Madoff mentioned in an interview years ago, the WHOLE U.S. GOVT. is a Ponzi scheme, thus the term FEDZILLA.

The ponzi scheme that is the U.S. Government and economy is like the Black Knight from “Monty Python’s Search for the Holy Grail”…
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The slow motion decline of standard of living and increase in wealth disparity will only continue, until another massive correction in the stock market triggers the next round of accelerated change.

Hollow man
Hollow man
January 14, 2019 9:02 pm

Spot on. We are already on the path.

Llpoh
Llpoh
January 14, 2019 10:04 pm

I am going out on a limb here and make a guess re what happened in Jefferson Cty, AL as to why their water and sewerage is so damn high. I am going to guess they made some stupid investments, by outsourcing the water and sewerage contract and or equipment contract and that they have to now pay off that contract no matter what. I will no investigate to see how my guess went.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Llpoh
January 14, 2019 10:12 pm

Answer: the county issued billions of dollars in bonds for sewer and water works, including to JP Morgan, that have shall we say unfavorable terms. The billions must be repaid, and there is insufficient population to support the high interest repayments.

So I was in somewhat general terms correct. I amaze myself! Who would have guessed some imbecilic county borrowed far more than they had the reasonable ability to repay?

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  Llpoh
January 14, 2019 11:10 pm

I remember reading about this county and it’s water costs some years ago.

LLPOH, ok, what’s your point? How is this the fault of the citizens of that county? Because they voted the wrong people in? This cannot be blamed on the citizens. Politicians are horrible people.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Donkey Balls
January 15, 2019 1:27 am

People get the govt they deserve, is an old adage. I suspect that applies in spades to Jefferson County.

Stuff happens because people let it happen. People always look to shift responsibility, and I am as guilty of it as anyone. But fact is, the people let it happen. Some are more guilty than others, but none are without some responsibility.

So donkey, what have you done to stop this stuff from happening? When are you running for office? What calls have you made to protest? Written any letters? Marched and boycotted?
If enough people do a little, it matters.

People get the govt they deserve. And they are deserving it good and hard.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Llpoh
January 15, 2019 4:45 am

In my little city, people are doing something about the overspending. This city invested in a minor-league baseball stadium, helped in the finance of a business’ parking deck, which would also be used by those parking at the new, huge municipal building they built that is a waste of space and resources, helped investors pay for new expensive apartments and expensive housing developments on the river, putting the city under massive debt, though the majority disagreed. Now they’re trying to add a huge fire station in a historic area that doesn’t allow it, and the neighbors are practically up in arms. A new Constitution Party has risen at the local level to take on the money spenders. I hope they succeed.

MarshRabbit
MarshRabbit
  Llpoh
January 15, 2019 9:45 am

If the people of Jefferson County are personally on the hook for debts incurred by elected officals, where does that leave us regarding the US national debt?

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Llpoh
January 15, 2019 6:29 pm

Llpoh..
Right you are.
You can’t rape the willing.
It was consensual sex. These are just the grandkids of that romantic encounter with the Magic Money Fairy.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Fleabaggs
January 15, 2019 6:54 pm

Flea, I just sent you an email.

Robert (QSLV)
Robert (QSLV)
  Llpoh
January 15, 2019 1:30 pm

I think the Average Joe could have figured that out.
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Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  Llpoh
January 15, 2019 5:57 pm

The same tactics used in South America and Asia by the I.M.F. and the economic Hitmen detailed in Perkins personal accounts in his amazing book entitled “Confessions of an Economic Hitman ”

Saddle the country, state, county, city, or municipality with loans that can never be paid back and eventually everything will be able to be privatised or sold off and bought up, more than likely, by corporations linked in some manner or another with the banks doing the lending.
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pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  Llpoh
January 14, 2019 10:26 pm

I don’t have to guess about one thing, the percentage of black folks in Jefferson is extremely high, and disfunction always follows from that….

We are screwed
We are screwed
  Llpoh
January 15, 2019 8:44 am

Lioph i have intimate knowledge of this. The city council (many in jail now) were back room dealing. They built a tunnel under a river to nowhere for 1 billion dollars. Thencity filed bankruptcy making it the nations largest bond holder default in american history. Thencity has been run by non whites since the sixties. When it was handed over it was running a major surplus. The crime has risen hyperbolically, fraud is rampant, many goe to jail every year, they iniated a fill race discrimnation tax by taxing whites (mostly) by iniating a tax that if you do not live in the city but work there you owe income taxes. Many people avoid doing business there now. It was voted unconstitutional 3 times but they still ccharge it and collect it. When they lost the suit they said they had bo money to reimburse and it would cause an even greater bankruptcy. We call birmingham the jungle for more than one reason.

john
john
  Llpoh
January 15, 2019 11:19 am

If I remember correctly the Jefferson City mess was in large part due to one of the big NY banks doing a con job on the locals.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
January 14, 2019 10:59 pm

All slack in the economy is disappearing. A great economy leaves something on the table for the next guy.

Martin
Martin
  Donkey Balls
January 15, 2019 10:25 am

.. leaves something on the table for the next generation maybe ?
What we’re doing now is financing great luxury for elders at the expense of the young.

TampaRed
TampaRed
January 14, 2019 11:31 pm

slightly off topic but a pretty good video,”10 myths about govt debt”
about 20 minutes–

no one
no one
  TampaRed
January 15, 2019 3:42 pm

Worth watching, I think. Thanks.

Ned
Ned
January 15, 2019 5:41 am

TPTB are coupling economics with attrition warfare, or as it was called a “war of attrition”. A slow wearing, grinding down of resources. So they have more and you have less.

Then again, it could happen that one ‘Black Swann’ event occurs to trigger others – or becomes the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back.

Because of the dire political unstability of the U.S. right now, I predict a false flag war will have to be initiated for purposes of distraction from the slow collapse described by Daisy. War is the ultimate force aggregator in keeping the masses attention off of the political economy. It’s a classic bait and switch.

We are screwed
We are screwed
January 15, 2019 8:19 am

Just imagine the next generation…..I plan on this year buying a homestead and planting anentire secret garden on the 50 acres. When anyone, even from above views it, it will look just like any ordinary acreage. The pecan trees will be near each other but not in rows, the blue berries the same etc etc. unless you are looking specifically you wont even notice. This will allow an inheritance. I figure most kids and grandkids dont even understand money, much less fiat momey. And when digital currency is the only legal means of commerce and they find themselves slaves to corporations they just may also find they can never retire. If i owned a biz it may fail, if i owned a work shop it will weather overr time like an old barn and be unusable. Owning a hidden farm will allow them a means of eating, bartering and living on land they own. It will also allow them enough legal income by selling stuff. The trees sit there and grow until the kids/grandkids become smart enough to realize this. I have seen many people take too long to smarten up and lose their opportunity. Dads business dies due to changing demand, small time manufacturer goes out of business due to tech or high cost of equipment replacement etc. I figure nature just keeps growing and will wait on them to morph from sheeple to sheepdog. Do the math on what one pecan tree yields and the gross margins, shocking to say the least. Now imagine bartering a small bag of pecans you pick up off the ground. Very empowering in that future dystopian way. Maybe they will visit my grave and see with fresh eyes, the insight and long game love I have for them.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  We are screwed
January 15, 2019 8:26 am

A smart and sound plan.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  We are screwed
January 15, 2019 8:59 am

All true wealth comes from a combination of labor and land.

Everything else is a skim.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Donkey Balls
January 15, 2019 9:16 am

Which is basically what Scarlett O’Hara’s Irish father told her in “Gone With the Wind.”

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
January 15, 2019 10:00 am

The circle jerk that is Wall Street to K-Street to Capitol Street has everything exactly where they want it . The time lines alter here and there but the ultimate transfer of not just wealth but the opportunity for average Americans to share in some equal share of the economy has been turned on its head . This is literally by design not accident add to that the debt created and how it is divided up so every man woman and child has the yoke of debt shackled to them has turned average Americans into indentured servants whose blood and treasure is extracted for the benefit of a few and the ruination of a free republic and the rights of the majority of the population . As apathy sets in among the masses so does complacency then hate discontent festors like a wound to long ignored : God help us then !

Platoplubius
Platoplubius
  Boat Guy
January 15, 2019 6:47 pm

Boat Guy,

Excellent observstiond and thoughts.

Couldn’t agree with you more that this is all by design!

Tom
Tom
January 15, 2019 2:29 pm

This coming from a women whom decided to forgo being a supportive wife to work extra jobs to allow some daycare to raise her kids and complain on a conservative site–feminism at it finest.