Supply-Demand Disconnect?

Guest Post by Eric Peters

The price paid for the average new car continues to climb – it’s about $34,000 now – but sales of new cars are declining. This seems cognitively dissonant.

Or at least, economically dissonant.

Shouldn’t prices fall when demand ebbs?

Yes, they should . . . in a free market, which is free to respond to market signals. But we don’t have a free market. We have a Borg-like hybrid creature, a mix of free market and corporatist-socialist elements.

Unlike 7 of 9, it is not pretty.

Artificial demand is created by government mandates and regulations for “features” such as ASS – automated start/stop, which has been added to almost every new car not because of market demand but because the government demands that new cars burn slightly less gas, however much cash that burns.

Since the government isn’t paying for the demand it creates, someone else has to.

This would be us – the people buying new cars with all the “features” the government demands. But most of us haven’t got unlimited means to pay for them.

And so we finance them.

Car debt – as measured by the length of the average new car loan – has roughly doubled over the past quarter century, from three-to-four years to six.

To be fair, it’s not all Uncle’s fault.

Probably two-thirds of all new cars come standard with an tablet-style touchscreen and features and amenities such as AC, power windows and locks, four wheel disc brakes and alloy wheels that were once optional in most cars.

When car loans were 3-4 years long, most people could not afford luxury features as described above and so did without them. This market pressure kept the prices of most cars – average cars – within the economic reach of most people. Cars such as Cadillacs and Mercedes-Benzes were around, but rare – and driven almost exclusively by affluent people who could afford them.

Then along came easy credit – and extended financing, which has made it possible for the government to increase “demand” without apparent cost – and for people to demand what they can’t afford.

The several-fold increase in leasing – or rather, renting – is another barometer worth considering.

Thirty years ago, leases accounted for about 5-8 percent of all new car transactions; today, they account for about 23 percent. Again, it’s a way around the high cost – and a way for people to drive more car than they can afford. The lease payments are lower than monthly payments on a new car loan because you are renting the car for a short period of time, usually just 2-3 years.

But there are built-in limits and we may be in sight of them.

Loans on cars can’t be pushed out much beyond the current 6-7 years because cars are appliances – like microwave ovens or toasters. They lose value from the moment you open the box – or drive off the lot.

They also wear out with use, which contributes to the loss of value.

There is a financial tipping point with cars – the point at which their market value is less than the outstanding principle of the loan. That tipping point can be pinpointed. It is reached at about 6-7 years from the day the car left the dealer’s lot. This is why loans are “hung up” at this particular point and haven’t been pushed out much farther.

Because they can’t be.

Bankers are people who are usually good at math.

But then people are, too – at a gut-check level, at least. When a person making payments on a car realizes, after four or five years of making payments, that he still owes the bank more than the car is now worth, there is a temptation to cut losses – and stop making payments.

Many do exactly that. Note the latest repossession/default data – it is upticking, especially among buyers under 35, who are statistically most likely to bite off more than they can chew.

The bank is then left holding the proverbial (and empty) bag.

What’s in the bag – the loss – is then written off, but it doesn’t disappear into thin air. The costs of that loss are transferred onto the back of someone else, perhaps in the form of loan-shark interest rates on the repossessed – and now much-depreciated – five or six-year-old used car dumped by its original owner.

Or, the losses are folded into the costs borne by others for home loans and so on. Bankers do not just absorb the losses and smile.

There are synergies at work which will accelerate a denouement the likes of which we’ve never seen; which no one has ever seen.

There have been ups and downs in the car business – like any other business. But we are approaching a unique nexus. Or perhaps critical mass is the better way to describe it.

Not only are government mandates imposing increasingly impossible costs, not only are more and more people chaining themselves to unprecedented debt to buy new cars, new cars are also becoming more and more disposable – due to the exponentially increasing mechanical and electronic complexity of their systems – which are being added for regulatory compliance reasons and because people want more and more features and amenities – which they can’t really afford but which they can get loans for.

These systems wax ever-more-expensive to fix – and the nature of complex systems is that they tend to require fixing (often, replacing) sooner rather than later.

A very good example of this being an electric car’s battery pack. These can cost many thousands of dollars to replace – and can be counted on to need replacing years before the car itself would otherwise need replacing. But the car’s value has depreciated to a point at which it no longer makes economic sense to replace the battery, because of the high cost of doing so vs. the low value of the car, which by this time is probably only a third what it was when new.

So the car gets thrown away sooner. At eight or nine years old rather than 12 or 15.

The owner jumps back on the debt carousel. He finds it more manageable to get a new loan for a new car than to come up with a large lump sum (several thousand dollars) to fix what he has.

He’s still paying, though – and he’s paying more. It’s just made to seem like less.

Meanwhile, our wallets grow thinner – faster.

A time is approaching when there will be nothing left in our wallets except dust and lottery ticket receipts.

And we won’t even have enjoyed an evening with Jeri Ryan for our trouble.

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17 Comments
James
James
March 28, 2019 6:49 am

Sigh,yet again…..,folks,find a older car you like,whether a classic 4×4/hot rod or just say a diesel rabbit/toyota with a 20 or 22r motor and put in a few bucks or buy one mint.You will be well ahead of the game/have a car any decent tech can work on or a simpler car for you to be able to work on.With the net and the E/CL ect. tis easy to find older cars either mint or needing some work.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  James
March 28, 2019 8:23 am

I like V6 Camrys. Years 95-06.

Anonym
Anonym
  Donkey Balls
March 28, 2019 3:57 pm

My friend has figured out the car note scam to a T, he buys a used car, on a note, and after 3 years, bang, he totals it, gets his money out, puts it into another used car and makes the same payments, of course the terms are longer each time, but, he is driving a newer car more frequently than most of us, and his payments are still the same.

he drops dead tomorrow or lives for one hundred, the payments remain the same.

This is the mentality of the paycheck to paycheck consumer.
no retirement
no savings
just the same payments please.

I would also point out, happy as a lark. not worried about world affairs, does not even understand compounded interest.

DD
DD
  James
March 28, 2019 9:50 am

Agree, James. Those old cars and trucks are actually fun to tinker with… that was when a Craftsman tool meant quality and the duct tape would do for an alternator belt for a few miles, anyway. A gallon of water for the radiator leak and a half gallon of gas/hard cider in the bed of the truck or the trunk.

On any number of trips I go off the beaten path around here to the “old towns” where county seats once dictated community life and, in most cases? still do. There are old car graveyards out here in these hills where I like to just slow down and look at some of the vintage cars and trucks in the field I’d love to pull-a-part and look under the hood.

I went to get myself a really good manual garden tiller up close to Amish country (the Amish only buy quality… that is how come they only make quality. They know the difference.) There aren’t many quality tool and die companies around, so when you find one, buy some good tools.

Well, on the way, I passed horse-pulled buggies, a few F150 4x4s ranging from 1990s to brand new. I got close to the old car collector/junkyard/dumping grounds? place and passed a vintage 56 Chevy, Vintage. Turquoise and white, polished chrome. My god I love being in hill country.

Be still my heart… it could have been this one.

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Stucky
Stucky
  James
March 28, 2019 12:20 pm

You stole the words right out of my mouth, James. Then again, I’ve been “out” for the past couple of days.

People who buy brand new cars are generally Financial Dumbfuks …. unless, of course, you are rich and have gobs of money you don’t know what to do with.

Last year I bought a 2005 Benz E500, with 32k miles, in truly showroom condition …. for $10,500. The original sticker price was around $70,000.

I am GRATEFUL for such dumb motherfuckers. Because if the vast majority of people only bought used cars, well, that would hugely drive up the cost of used cars. Thankfully, America has millions of dumbass new car buyers.

So, just wait a few years and buy THEIR cars for a fraction of the original price. Or, go on-line now (if you need a car) and buy a FABULOUS used car for 20% or less of the original price. I’ve been doing that for 20+ years and I’m telling you — there ARE a ton of deals out there.

[Bonus Stucky Hint: Go to an assisted-living or “adult” community, and check out their community board and/or newsletters. These fuckers are old so at any point in time; 1) they die, or 2) suffer a stroke or whatever and can’t drive any more. And even if they don’t croak or faint — they hardly drive at all. I bought a mint-ish Buick Century from one of these places …. it had under 60k miles for a mere $2,800. ]

credit
credit
March 28, 2019 7:06 am

I also have a 7 of 9 fetish…

Macumazahn
Macumazahn
  credit
March 30, 2019 3:27 pm

Sadly, while smokin’ hot, Jeri Ryan was the proximate cause of the Obama Presidency.
Isn’t she related somehow to Ernest Borg-Nine?

Iconoclast421
Iconoclast421
March 28, 2019 9:36 am

My truck is 8 years old, actually it was assembled 9 years ago, and it is still worth 15 grand. I’m not sure where they get this idea that vehicles lose all value in 7 years. It has only lost about 6k in value in the last 3 years.

DD
DD
  Iconoclast421
March 28, 2019 10:07 am

They are they sales folks at the dealership, who have grown accustomed to clients who will pay any amount of money to avoid any inconvenience at all.

We recently decided to “gift” our current F150 Workhorse to my stepson as a wedding gift. He deserves it and since we sold my 2015 Jeep to the rocket scientist for blue book (It would NOT quit talking to me, but my technosavvy son likes that crap.) We purchased a 2014 Workhorse we plan to keep until there is no keeping to be done.

The sales guy at the local yokel dealership out on the US highway between the Bluff and St. Louie was about the most low key salesman I’d ever met. He basically handed us the key on our word we had drivers licenses and suggested we come back after lunch because he was taking a long one. Then, when we got back he just said if we wanted to make an offer, good, and if not, it was nice meeting us.

Seriously, he was like “I really don’t give a shit if you want the truck or not. Have a nice day.” I liked him.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  DD
March 28, 2019 11:05 am

I had a similar experience about 20 yrs ago. I was at an intersection and I saw a minivan on a lot for my wife. I told her to hop out and go look at it. I went around the block to park and there she was with the keys. She said the guy said take it home for a couple of days and think about it. He had no idea who she was or where we lived. We bought the car. Some time later (months?) I saw an 86 Blazer (ooh la la)on the same lot and I called about it. Again, they did not know who they were talking to. I lived about 40 miles away so I said I would be in on another day. He said he would drop it off at a bar that was half way in between and he would leave the keys under the floor mat and hung up. He didn’t ask anything about me. I bought the truck.

icutrauma11
icutrauma11
  DD
March 28, 2019 12:55 pm

Almost sounds like a NY physician in an Emergency Room

mygirl
mygirl
  Iconoclast421
March 28, 2019 11:50 am

I only buy used vehicles and i pay cash. I also only buy vans for the work I do and the ‘if shtf I can always live in it’ down by the river……

DD
DD
  mygirl
March 28, 2019 9:53 pm

We took 28, 200 in unmarked bills to pay for our “new” truck… LOL. It was easier than taking the cash to the bank and explaining why we had it. Let the car dealership fill out all the paperwork.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
March 28, 2019 3:41 pm

I have said for a long time that all of these senseless silly ass expensive technologies having to do with cars meet the one long term goal of the Elitist Plan-you will not be able to afford a car. Most of the car companies will go out of business, and there will be one that builds Government cars. The car dealerships will turn into taxi cab/ rent-a- ride rackets, where you will have to use an app on your phone to be able to go anywhere, and it will be expensive.
We’ve long since passed the event horizon where this can or willfully be reversed. We’re at the point that follows this old saying- If you kill the cats that are shitting in your flower bed, then there will be no more cat shit in your flower bed. I’d say at this point it will take a couple of tens of millions undesirables either forced out of here or liquidated and half of the country burnt down to change anything.

Macumazahn
Macumazahn
March 30, 2019 3:30 pm

I’m very happy with my 2002 Audi A6 Turbo Quattro. It wasn’t easy to find one with a 6-speed manual.
Still, my insurance keeps climbing because everyone else’s cars are now so crazy expensive to repair.