The Electric Obamaphone

Guest Post by Eric Peters

Elon just admitted something which is getting very little coverage – and no explanation.

He announced that Tesla will no longer be selling the “affordable” $35,000 Model 3 he promised would be Tesla’s first mass-market electric car. Like so many of Elon’s promises, that one’s out the window, too.

The price of the least expensive Tesla just rose to $39,000. Well, technically $38,990 – to make it go down easier.

That’s still a $4k decrease in “affordability” – and a reality check.

Elon is admitting that electric cars aren’t mass-market cars. That after all the glitzy assurances, after all these years, in the end, they are what they have always been: Specialty cars for people with the disposable income to indulge other-than-economic considerations such as “technology” and – as Elon loves to tout – the driving characteristics of electric cars.

There’s nothing per se objectionable about specialty cars – whether electric or powered by a high-performance boxer six, like a Porsche.

But there is a problem.

There is a hard deck limit to the number of specialty cars that can be manufactured. It is a small number – because most people can’t afford to buy such cars. How many Porsches do you see vs. Corollas?

EVs are Porsches – economically speaking.

Both are cars for people with the ability to spend more than twice the cost of a well-equipped economy car.

Now imagine the government decreed everyone must drive a Porsche. This might not be such a bad thing – provided someone else pays for yours.

Who will pay for your electric car?

For everyone’s electric car?

Enter The Rub.

Electric cars aren’t just specialty cars built in small numbers for the small number of people with the means to buy them, as Porsches are.

The government has de facto mandated that electric cars be manufactured en masse by imposing regs that only electric cars can “achieve compliance” with. The big one is the “zero emissions” reg, which makes a meaningless distinction between “emissions” emitted at the tailpipe vs. the smokestack.

Meaningless, that is, if you accept the doctrine that carbon dioxide is an “emission” – dangerous to planetary health, as the Cult of Climate Change insists.

If it is, then electric cars aren’t “zero” emissions. Not if they’re driven, at any rate. In order to move, they consume electrical power generated by the burning of natural gas and oil and coal  – which produces plenty of carbon dioxide “emissions.”

But the fatuity of the “zero emissions” fatwa doesn’t change  its power – the distortionary effect it is having on the car industry generally – which is being forced to build lots of electric cars to  “achieve compliance.”

Cars for which there is no market.

Or rather, cars for which there aren’t buyers.

Which has nothing to do with want and everything to do with afford.

Lots of people want a Porsche. The problem is that the least expensive one – the Boxster – starts around $50k (which is about what the Tesla 3 typically transacts for) and probably nine out of ten people can’t manage that, no matter how much they might want that.

Which is why Porsche only builds a couple thousand Boxsters every year – and even fewer of its higher-end models like the Cayman and 911.

Back to Elon.

He discovered that he couldn’t sell the Model 3 for $35k – as he promised to – without incurring unbearable losses on each “sale” – even with the subsidies.

No one else can afford such losses, either.

It is one thing to mandate that electric cars be built. It is another thing to find buyers for them. People willing – and able – to spend what it cost to make them plus a profit margin for the manufacturer.

The car industry is in a jam. It has bear-hugged the electric car tar baby with both arms – on the poltroonish neo-corporate maxim of go-along to get-along. To be seen as “green.”

And to avoid being the target of Soy Boy protests.

But economic realities are going to set in, soon. Because soon, it won’t be a relative handful of Teslas chasing a tiny cohort of virtue signaling affluent buyers but hundreds of thousands of electric VWs and everyone else’s trying to convince average people to sign up for a car they can’t afford.

Consider VW’s first electric car, the “e” Golf. It costs just under $32k to start ($31,895 to make it go down easier) vs. $21,845 for the same car without the electric drivetrain. That’s a $10k price bump to go “green” – which is more green than most people who buy cars like the Golf can afford, no matter how “green” they might want to be.

Put another way, the eGolf costs a third more more than the non-electric Golf. This is typical of electric vs. non.

Nissan’s Leaf, for example, is essentially an electric Versa – Nissan’s compact economy sedan/hatchback.

But the Leaf costs $30k to start ($29,990 to make it easier on the gullet) vs. $15,650 for the Versa – twice as much green.

This is not – to borrow a term favored by the coercive utopians pushing electric cars – sustainable.

Two-thirds of the car buying public can’t afford these cars – the financial/economic hard deck.

But the car industry is gearing up to build cars which two-third of the market is not financially capable of buying.

Why are they doing it?

Because  it is the only way to “achieve compliance.”

Moving them off the lot is a whole ‘nuther thing. They can be “sold” at a loss, of course – as Elon has been doing – but only for so long. What was it Margaret Thatcher once said about other people’s money?

Eventually, you run out of it.

Perhaps EVs will be Obamaphoned. In addition to mandating them, the government will give people vouchers for them – in addition to the existing subsidies. Realistically – economically – it’s the only way these specialty cars can ever become mass market cars.

But perhaps that has never been the object of this exercise. Perhaps it has been to make all cars specialty cars. In order to reduce the number of cars. In order to to limit their possession to special people.

Elite people – like Elon.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
July 20, 2019 1:19 pm

Sooner or later all Socialist well intentioned ideas crash head on with reality coupled with running out of other peoples money . Solution : print more and pile more debt upon the great unwashed till everything turns to shit . We should be there any second now !

NoThanksIJustAte
NoThanksIJustAte
July 20, 2019 3:00 pm

(F)elon Musk’s lithium-powered Tesla has proven to be a sham. It’s not a car, it’s a portable human BBQ’ing machine on wheels.

The auto pilot feature is completely unreliable & inoperative and has led to a plethora of fatalities. The instances of that car exploding upon impact and in several cases incinerating its occupants are also so numerous it’s mind-boggling to try to understand why the NHTSA hasn’t recalled it yet. The Ford Pinto was recalled and taken off the market for much less than that.

Then there’s Felon himself and his off the wall crazy claims, to wit: that he could build a six-foot long submarine that can navigate 4 foot wide crawl spaces, that he can put a man on Mars in 3 years and now his latest claim …to have created a brain implanted computer interface chip. I wonder if those too will explode upon impact and incinerate its users?

Felon Musk is a con man. He should not be looked up to. He should be doing hard time in a Federal Penitentiary or perhaps better yet in a mental institution … preferably chained to one of his exploding Tesla’s just in case he tries to make a run for it.

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starfcker
starfcker
  NoThanksIJustAte
July 20, 2019 7:03 pm

You’re an idiot. Musk is doing things you can’t even imagine. Think about that, you can’t even imagine these things, that’s how stunted your brain is. And there is another man actually doing them, and making a boatload of money doing them. And hey, all you downvoters, it’s only been 4 weeks since I told you Tesla stock was a bargain. so far you would have only made 20% on your money, which is better than most of you will ever do. The big gains don’t happen till next week. Stay tuned for another episode of how the poor stay poor.

NickelthroweR
NickelthroweR
  starfcker
July 20, 2019 7:23 pm

Musk is a conman. Sadly, most Americans are so poorly educated that they can not understand that the majority of the things he proposes are impossible. Sure, I have to drive around LA every now and again and it would be great if I could have my own one-car tunnel to take me where I want to go or a Big Fucking Rocket to take me so Singapore in 20 minutes so I can talk to a supplier but all of that is just pure fantasy. It can NEVER EVER happen.

starfcker
starfcker
  NickelthroweR
July 20, 2019 7:43 pm

Nickel, you should know better than anyone. Even if you are a great idea guy, 95% of your ideas are going to suck. And you let those fall away like dead leaves off a tree. But it doesn’t mean you shouldn’t talk about your ideas, and think about your ideas and develop your ideas. You only have to have one or two really good ones, and you’re set for life and you moved the ball of humanity forward. Look at Floyd Rose.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  starfcker
July 21, 2019 4:45 am

Tesla is toast.TOAST. And here come the big boys to do the buttering.

Lars Emilsson
Lars Emilsson
  starfcker
July 20, 2019 7:40 pm

Nothing wrong with doing unimaginable things and making boatloads of money. But to a large extent Felon does so on our dime, government rebates, for example, to the affluent people who buy his product.

NoThanksIJustAte
NoThanksIJustAte
  starfcker
July 20, 2019 10:08 pm

“Musk is doing things you can’t even imagine. Think about that, you can’t even imagine these things, that’s how stunted your brain is”

First you tell me I can’t even imagine all the things Felon Tusk is doing, then you ask me to imagine them. After which you tell me that my brain is stunted …yet still ask me to think about it.

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starfcker
starfcker
  NoThanksIJustAte
July 21, 2019 6:04 pm

Yeah, but I’m a rich idiot

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
July 20, 2019 4:13 pm

Ala HSF….

“It isn’t about the money. It’s about control.

Most people think of those in power as “greedy” or “rich” because most people use money and are able to understand the world in terms of having or not having it. They think that the very powerful people, the guys like Dimon, Soros and Rothschild are driven by the same kind of desires and needs that they are and fail to grasp an entire different level of motivation that has very little to do with money. Money is simply a tool that accrues to the powerful. Power is a currency all it’s own and it opens up every kind of possibility that mere money cannot begin to unlock.

Most everything that we talk about when we discuss debt, leveraging, tranches, derivatives, etc. are not real. They are fictional creations often referencing the same thing many thousands of times over. Your mortgage, for example, is a debt owed from you to a bank, but it may have been leveraged countless times as an instrument of debt to the point that your 200K note is actually “worth” millions of dollars in various funds without any connection to reality. All of these fictional swindles are used by those who control them to enslave not only individuals and populations but nations and governments. That’s the point of them, not the cash value, but the leverage. Power is the actual currency not dollars.

Human beings live in one of two states; Free or Enslaved. That is the root of all economics and it has never altered throughout the ages regardless of the society or landmass that they occupy. Human beings are a domesticated animal that are farmer by a very small number of human ranchers. Their purpose is to serve these human masters as consumers or cannon fodder, obedient servants and carnal harems. The ones in control employ the same means of control today that they first devised countless eons ago when we exchanged our tribal nature for civilization. We live now as we have lived since the dawn of Agriculture, in a feudal system shaped like a pyramid. Why do you think that form is as ubiquitous an artifact of human societies throughout history? Because it’s pretty? It’s because it’s it is stable, because it endures long after the creators have shuffled off this mortal coil. It represents our natural state as a collective species. The mass supports the view from the top for a select few who stare down the corridors of time while everyone else tries to figure out what beast this is by examining it’s dung at ground level.

Most people don’t want to know this and they don’t really care. As long as the basics are provided for they are content to sacrifice their independence because it eliminates risk. And as we all know humans are designed to be motivated by the carrot or the stick.

We are slaughtering again this week, the last of the meat birds, the lambs and a few hogs. As I have said it is not a process I look forward to, but it is what must be done. To eat, someone must harvest and we all eat. I choose to embrace that reality and by doing so improve not only our health, but my understanding of some fundamental truths that run like clockwork, with or without our knowledge, underneath it all. This is what the powerful do on another level and like the person who will eat a steak or a chicken as long as they don’t have to know how it wound up on the plate we choose to look the other way.

This isn’t about money. It never was.”

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
July 20, 2019 5:02 pm

Who is this ‘Eric Peters’ ? Is he just a car guy? Has he ever written anything about Elon’s other ventures? A.I.?

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- brain implants……this is only 2 1/2 min. video:

Lars Emilsson
Lars Emilsson
  ordo ab chao
July 20, 2019 8:27 pm

Yes, Peters is an authentic car guy.

I have found his car reviews to be informative and interesting. The discussions among the commentariat is where the fun begins, to include ribald humor, technical discussions, and philosophical musings mostly from anti-police, anti-war, pro-market, pro-gun, pro-private property, anti-tax, pro-freedom of association, anti-feminism, and generally libertarian biases. .

Yes, he has written often and extensively about Musk in particular and the stupidity and immorality of the government-coerced EV agendy in general.

Regarding AI, I’m not sure how directly they relate, but his many articles about the push toward self-driving cars evince passionate hatred. Basically, he opposes the coming NWO trend – under the guise of public safety and stopping climate change – toward driverless, remotely controlled electiric vehicles which will render us all docile, incompetent, irresponsible, dependent, surveiled zombies…in his opinion.

The real point of driving an automobile, he says, beyond mere transportation, is to experience the joy of controlling, maintaining, caring for, and becoming one with a machine that is fast, powerful, maneuverable, and well engineered, that you own free of state-imposed encumbrances, and that you and you alone are responsible for.

MSyzlak
MSyzlak
  ordo ab chao
July 21, 2019 2:37 pm

Don’t know why the thumbs down? It’s a fair question. As Lars Emilsson says, Peters is primarily a car guy, though he often wanders into broader territory.

Anyway, I saw that neuralink video and it was weird. Apart from content, Musk’s behavior is weird in that presentation.
Possibilities:
1) forgot to take his beta-blockers;
2) is being very, very cautious about what he says and how he says it;
3) is uncomfortable about what he’s selling here;
4) Musk is actually an android;
5) this is a clone “Musk” on its first public outing;
6) ???

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
July 20, 2019 5:17 pm

The Elites don’t intend for us to be able to drive their fiat mandated cars. The next step will be for them to tell us exactly that, all the time and every day. However, there could still be an every-street-corner-has-a-guillotine future for them all, and I volunteer to pull the trigger rope on one. Still, pulling a trigger on a 7 shot Nagant gas-seal revolver a.k.a. The Cheka would be okay, too.

MSyzlak
MSyzlak
  Coalclinker
July 21, 2019 2:47 pm

“The Elites don’t intend for us to be able to drive their fiat mandated cars”

No, but many will ride in them. They will be electric (no matter how stupid that currently seeems) come hell or high water. They will be “autonomous” or “self-driving” (aka driven by the authorities). They will not be owned by you. They will not be controlled by you. They will, ultimately, not have their destination set by you (e.g., you can set the destination for work, but not the titty-bar). They will be paid for by you, whether you use them or not. Your payment for them will not entitle you to their use.

Everyone but you, me, Eric Peters, other TBP commenters, etc, will absolutely LOVE them.

noBabel
noBabel
July 21, 2019 6:42 am

Its funny how “free market” people know so much about the economics of “renewable” energy and how they don’t work but understand nothing about the economics of energy extraction.
Governments and auto makers are in a jam, but its not because of policies. The jam is from the laws of physics.
One day in our lifetime cars will be a novelty for the uber wealthy, assuming that the collapse in the consumer economy will allow cars to be manufactured at all.
Or if the Vulcans come and teach us how to us dilithium crystals to make unlimited energy.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  noBabel
July 21, 2019 6:52 am

You must be very young and planning to live a long time. Because cars are not going anywhere in my lifetime, and I am not ancient, at least not yet.

MSyzlak
MSyzlak
  noBabel
July 21, 2019 3:00 pm

It’s funnier how “anti-free-market” people claim to understand the economics and physics of energy extraction when they actually understand neither and can only repeat what their esteemed and omniscient professors have brainwashed them to believe.

Tom
Tom
July 21, 2019 12:58 pm

>>”But perhaps that has never been the object of this exercise. Perhaps it has been to make all cars specialty cars. In order to reduce the number of cars. In order to to limit their possession to special people.”

Ding! Ding! Ding!

This is classic “choice architecture” and “nudging” (thank you Obama regulatory czar Cass Sunstein).

The end goal of the degrowth / climate cult / global collectivism imposed under “sustainability” pretense crowd is to have the huddled masses “nudged” into high density, urban housing. One way to do that is to make commuting / suburbs unaffordable and impractical — such as by making personal transportation both unaffordable and impractical (EV range and charging times inhibiting the ability to travel any distance).

They portray it as a sustainable utopia to come, for the little people. But of course, Collectivists of all stripes (Communists; Socialists; Fascists and Progressives) always peddle utopia for the little people — it’s an indispensable part of their shtick.

The reality will resemble something closer to the world portrayed in the dystopian movie “Soylent Green.”

delow24
delow24
July 22, 2019 4:44 pm

Actually, your number on the Golf is off. The eGolf costs half as much more again than the regular Golf. It is a 150% premium to by it.

On the economy side of the car equation that is definitely a deal breaker, especially when it is going to be so hard to take it on say a 500 mile trip. Where are you going to spend the hours on end waiting on your batteries to recharge?