Business Corner: Copyright Law

I own a website/business where about 10 gigabytes of data are uploaded on a daily basis. This data is uploaded by my customers. I am being asked to share this data with other sources. These sources will pay for this data. The issue is copyrights. Most of my customers do not register copyright but that will only protect me so much.

Q1: How airtight is a required checkbox with Terms of Service stating the transfer of copyright ownership or something similar which would allow my to sell this data?

Q2: Can anyone recommend a copyright lawyer in the DC area?

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Author: Glock-N-Load

Simply a concerned, freedom loving American.

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gatsby1219
gatsby1219
February 17, 2020 6:43 am

Ask your customers, or sell your soul to the devil.

starfcker
starfcker
  Donkey
February 17, 2020 3:24 pm

Dude, you start selling your customer’s data, you’re going to lose a lot of your customers, and not necessarily the way you think (your customers getting mad). You’re giving somebody a blueprint on how to either take those customers away from you, or gut their businesses from the inside. That’s why they want to buy it in the first place

MagNag
MagNag
February 17, 2020 6:55 am

I am doing a bit of research into that and believe the answer is this:

Any website may hold/publish/display/SELL any information someone has uploaded/typed/shared there, which implies their AGREEMENT to publish, unless it is specifically designated for THIS AUDIENCE ONLY. Even that is a flimsy attempt to claim additional rights. I look at it like used book stores… authors gripe they don’t get paid for their work that is RESOLD. They should be happy nobody tossed their drivel into the trash can. Oops… I digressed.
So, as long as a contributor/client/customes does not put limitations on what they’ve published and as long as the owner shares it intact or paraphrased without changed meaning, then there is NO COPYRIGHT infringement by the website.

I’ll go find the statute… I took a photo of the screen (too lazy to screenshot… it was in a documentary, so I just paused it.)

M G
M G
  Donkey
February 18, 2020 9:04 am

I think I found it, but will keep looking for additional resources. The 1996 Communications Act, while relatively unbeknownst to most people was a profound change in the power structure of the FCC.

But, I think it protects your business as written.

I appreciate the compliment, but being a natural born nosey nosenstein is really nothing to brag about. It’s in my genetic makeup.

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I come from a pack of nosey nosensteins.

Unemployed
Unemployed
February 17, 2020 10:33 am

Hey Donkey,

The air-tightness of intellectual property is contingent upon the language of agreements and the willingness of principal’s/company’s to prosecute or defend. And the issue with that is this: Make a call and have the firm send a warning letter, then get a bill for $1,200; which is quite often just the opening salvo.

After a while, I just started writing my own contracts to cover my ass the best I could, move forward and don’t sweat the small stuff.

Can’t help ya in D.C.

Unemployed
Unemployed
  Donkey
February 17, 2020 1:45 pm

Trademark law allows for dating back to first business usage so it is often overkill to register various creative / info / process or systems, especially when considering the restrictions on such variations to include mark, design, specific use, area, et al.

Therefore, it is quite often possible to find templates for release agreements, contracts to protect against indemnification, as well as non-compete agreements online. Then you could always add provisions similar to the following and pursuant to your previous business agreements/interactions:

ADDITIONAL TERMS OF AGREEMENT

V. This agreement may be signed and faxed back to ______________.
VI. Facsimile signatures and documents shall have the same force and affects as the original documents.
VII. This Agreement sets forth the entire understanding of the parties and no terms, conditions, or warranties other than those contained herein and no amendments thereto shall be valid unless made in writing and signed by the relevant parties hereto.
VIII: In the unlikely event a dispute shall arise within this agreement; all parties agree it shall be construed and enforced in accordance with the laws of the State of _____________.
IX. In the unlikely event a dispute shall arise within this agreement; all parties agree the venue for any dispute shall be brought exclusively in the county, state or federal courts sitting in __________ County, ___________(State).

This keeps any brushfires contained to your turf and often serves as a deterrent to potentially shady characters.

This modus operandi can also work with patents as well and by the time the big boys decide to slightly modify and steal, a good plan is to be rich enough at that point to make them uncomfortable, or, already be onto something better by that point anyway.

Probably not specifically applicable to your particular situation, but just trying to cover the bases and get you thinking.

By all means consult with Legal Eagles, LLC for risk protection while remembering you understand your business better than they and their billing department.

Good luck.

Judges and Galleries
Judges and Galleries
February 17, 2020 11:25 am

We had a similar issue and questions on how to proceed.

The lowest cost solution: Utilize the TOS of a site like Faceplant or Youtube.

Last I looked, those TOS agreements specifically indicate that anything uploaded can be utilized by the site holder as they wish. That includes monetizing.

No need to pay an attorney if you rewrite a TOS from Faceplant or Youtube with your own company/credentials pasted in – they already paid and have written legally sound (but morally questionable and/or repulsive) TOS agreements. Just change the language a little, remove clauses that don’t apply and insert info. that does.

Dutch
Dutch
February 17, 2020 11:54 am
M G
M G
February 18, 2020 9:01 am

I found the link to the discussion about “neutral” platforms. Here it is… I hope it helps.

https://www.eff.org/issues/cda230
47 U.S.C. § 230, a Provision of the Communication Decency Act

Tucked inside the Communications Decency Act (CDA) of 1996 is one of the most valuable tools for protecting freedom of expression and innovation on the Internet: Section 230.

This comes somewhat as a surprise, since the original purpose of the legislation was to restrict free speech on the Internet. The Internet community as a whole objected strongly to the Communications Decency Act, and with EFF’s help, the anti-free speech provisions were struck down by the Supreme Court. But thankfully, CDA 230 remains and in the years since has far outshone the rest of the law.

Section 230 says that “No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider” (47 U.S.C. § 230). In other words, online intermediaries that host or republish speech are protected against a range of laws that might otherwise be used to hold them legally responsible for what others say and do. The protected intermediaries include not only regular Internet Service Providers (ISPs), but also a range of “interactive computer service providers,” including basically any online service that publishes third-party content. Though there are important exceptions for certain criminal and intellectual property-based claims, CDA 230 creates a broad protection that has allowed innovation and free speech online to flourish.