Will it be an Inflationary or Deflationary Depression?

Guest Post by Doug Casey

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At some point, the economy is no longer controlled by individual citizens in the marketplace but by government “planners,” who find they have only one of two alternatives: stop “stimulating” and permit a full-scale credit collapse, or continue stimulating until the dollar loses all value and society breaks down.

Depending on which they choose, we will have a depression characterized by deflation or by hyperinflation.

Deflationary Depression

This is the 1929-style depression, where huge amounts of inflationary credit are wiped out through bank failures, bond defaults, and stock and real-estate crashes.

Before 1913 (the inception of both the Federal Reserve and the income tax), having the dollar pegged to gold (at $20 an ounce) inhibited the scale of monetization.

When depressions of this type occurred, depositors acted quickly to collect their money; they had no illusion that the government would bolster their banks; once the banks ran out of gold, their bank accounts were worthless.

Their quick response and the fact that the federal government could not monetize its deficit spending as freely as it now can forced the market to correct distortions rapidly.

Until the 1930s, depressions were sharp but brief.

They were short because unemployed workers and distressed business owners were forced to lower their prices and change their business methods to avoid starvation.

The 1929 Depression was deeper and more widespread than any before it since the Federal Reserve (by becoming the lender of last resort) allowed banks to maintain far smaller reserves than ever before.

By backing the dollar with Reserve Bank IOUs instead of gold, the money supply could be increased enormously, and large distortions could be built into the economy before a depression liquidated them.

It was far longer than those before it, because government attempted to hold wages and prices at levels few could afford to pay, while its make-work and income-redistribution schemes retarded the rebuilding of capital and the productive employment of labor.

Meanwhile, the government discovered the freedom with which it could have its deficit spending monetized and proceeded to spend at an unprecedented rate to finance the New Deal’s spending programs and World War II.

Since the end of the last depression, there have been numerous small recessions. Since at least the ‘70s, anyone of them could have snowballed into another 1929-style deflation.

Government has been able to forestall a deflation each time, since it has far more power than it did during the ‘30s. But the government’s success so far has linked all the cyclical recessions since the end of World War II into a much larger “supercycle.” Just as each of the past recessions had its moment of truth, so will the current one. And it could well be the turning point for the bigger supercycle as well.

Hyperinflationary Depression

This is the Weimar-style depression, like the one Germany experienced in the early ‘20s. Here, rather than let a collapse of inflationary credit wipe out banks, securities, and real-estate values, the government creates yet more currency and credit to prop things up.

It pumps massive amounts of new purchasing power into the economy to create “demand” (even, or rather, especially among corporate and individual welfare recipients, who produce nothing in return).

The government extends past misallocations of capital, when the economy instead needs to readjust to sustainable patterns of production and consumption.

Hyperinflation could result from overstimulation when the authorities try to boost the economy out of a trough. If they expand the money supply too quickly, it might encourage the trillions of US dollars owned by foreigners to flood back here at once, in a bid for real wealth in competition with domestically held dollars. That would reverse, overnight, the muted inflation figures of the last 40 years, and prices could jump at a 20 percent to 30 percent clip.

It is hard to anticipate all the implications of that happening but, presumably, everyone would panic out of dollars and into real goods.

There would be a wave of bank failures. Possible government reactions would be price controls, withdrawal restrictions, foreign-exchange controls, and many other forms of “people controls.”

This country is arguably unique in having a gigantic long-term debt market; bonds and mortgages are worth several times what the stock market is. If the dollars that debt is denominated in were to evaporate, it would be a world-class disaster.

Previous runaway inflations in other countries have been characterized by the printing of literally tons of paper money. But the US economy is based largely on credit.

Would credit cards be accepted if the dollar were to start losing value at a very high rate? Quite possibly not. In other hyperinflations, there was usually some alternate currency to facilitate trade.

Weimar Germans had substantial amounts of gold coins salted away.

In South American inflations, people simply used US dollars.

In the ex-USSR, dollars (and deutsche marks) practically became the new national currency for a few years.

But what would Americans use?

All this would be an academic discussion, or perhaps an interesting topic for a science-fiction treatment, if the US government were a manageable size, and instead of a “legal tender” currency, “dollar” were just a name for a certain quantity of gold.

But that is not the case, and we have to deal with things as they are.

Which Will it Be?

The current administration, Congress, and the Federal Reserve are confronting a far, far more serious problem than ever in past business cycles.

At the bottom of each past cycle, interest rates were high (bond prices were low), inflation was high, and the stock market was very low.

This set up ideal conditions for recovery, as each of these situations went into reverse.

But now, stocks and bonds are already very high, and inflation is already at (what have come to be accepted as normal) very low levels.

At the same time, the government has far less flexibility than in the past, despite being more powerful than ever.

Most of its revenues are already spent before they come in, and it has a gigantic debt load to service.

If some unexpected shock hits, it will be like watching a tightrope walker over the Grand Canyon during a windstorm.

In their efforts to quell inflation, the authorities could make the supply of credit either too small or too costly.

With as much debt as there is today, the wave of bond and mortgage defaults would cascade through the economy. Loan defaults would wipe out banks, and foreclosure sales would depress prices and wipe out the net worth of individuals.

A corporate bankruptcy can take down its suppliers, its workers, its community, and its lenders as well. Perhaps a scramble to pay debt would result in the wholesale liquidation of assets at distress-sale prices, further reducing everyone’s net worth, even while the dollars they owe gain value.

In their efforts to head off a deflation, the authorities would undoubtedly attempt to supply liquidity by creating more currency and credit. But that would just bring back the inflation scenario.

And world credit and currency markets are far larger than they were during the early ‘80s, when things very nearly collapsed.

The financial problems the government has created have taken on a life of their own, and there is a good chance we’ll have a nasty surprise when the next recovery is slated to occur.

Betting on inflation has been the winning strategy since the bottom of the last depression, but a financial accident could change all that overnight.

The inflationists will almost certainly be right in the long run, but they may get wiped out in the short run.

In any event, the moment of truth is approaching, and there likely will be a titanic struggle between the forces of inflation and the forces of deflation. Each will probably win, but in different areas of the economy.

As a result, we’re likely to see all kinds of prices going up and down, like an elevator with a lunatic at the controls. It will not be a mellow experience.

Editor’s Note: The biggest financial bubble in human history has popped… and the coming financial volatility will be unlike anything we’ve ever seen before.

It will be an increasingly dangerous time for retirees, savers, and investors.

That’s precisely why NY Times best-selling author Doug Casey and his team just released a pressing new report, Surviving and Thriving During an Economic Collapse. Click here to download the free PDF now.

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32 Comments
Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
April 15, 2020 6:27 pm

“The current Admin. and Congress and the Fed are confronting confronting a crisis far, far more
serious problem than in past business cycles”. No they aren’t. They are executing the plan for the destruction of what remains of the country and any privately held wealth the middle and lower classes may be hoarding.
Prices will skyrocket for basic needs to use up any cash or Pm’s anyone has stored at home and a new currency will appear. Has anyone been following India where paltry amounts of food are doled out daily. You won’t get any if you don’t submit to a home inspection and obtain a digital ration card.
It’s your turn in the barrel Whitey.

oldtimer505
oldtimer505
  Fleabaggs
April 15, 2020 6:34 pm

Why the racial slur??? It is not just “whitey as you put it” creating this crap. If your going to use these slurs then at least follow what Dirty Harry followed and hate them all including whitey.

Lars
Lars
  oldtimer505
April 15, 2020 7:18 pm

Oldtimer, near as I can tell, Flea has always been an inimitably articulate advocate for White interests. Given his many ruminations on this forum since I began lurking, I would consider him a fellow White Nationalist. His use of the term is rhetorical and meant to get our attention, not to offend. A warning, so to speak, that we White men are the primary target of the dark forces to which he alludes. My 2 bits

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Lars
April 15, 2020 7:22 pm

Lars.
Exactly, thank you.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  oldtimer505
April 15, 2020 7:37 pm

O.T.
I grew up in cental Jersey where we had every flavor of human you can name and we argued and vented using slurs that weren’t really slurs. Micks, Whops, Dagos, Splivs, Pollaks, Kykes, White trash, and many more. We even called ourselves those names. We never had a riot and all went to the same schools and played ball together. A racial slur from me can’t be mistaken for anything else. Calling a Jew a Pig fukker is a slur. Calling a Puerto Rican a Spic is not a slur. Calling him a greasy Spic is a slur. We were Shanty Irish which meant we were one step above a Gypsie and two steps above an Irish Gypsie. My siblings married one of everything. I have Black, Jew, Italian, Polish, and German Neices and Nephews.
If you haven’t noticed yet, I absolutely never hint. I don’t even know how which is why I never get a hint.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Fleabaggs
April 16, 2020 6:12 am

Hey fleabag I could be wrong but I think your whitey reference is referring to what all middle and former middle class working people are considered and treated like today . I heard it phrased about 35 years ago by a black spokesperson at a refuse & resist conference . Regarding how government and especially police forces were being converted to income producers at the peril of average people . She said welcome my white brothers and sisters in the eyes of what was our government we are all niggers now !
Think about it the erosion of personal freedoms coupled with the destruction of real wage and benefit packages that government employees modeled and still enjoy while those taxed to provide continue to lose ground and status (fly over people of Wal mart slur) all have become easy target for policing for profit . Those with the least ability to legally fight back but can continue to be squeezed $
It’s like a DUI road block , never near the prestigious country club after a Christmas party but always near a middle or lower class area !
We know and what scares the Shit out of “THEM” the ever present THEY know we are aware who benefited from our downfall as an American middle class and the DC swamp dwellers are scurrying about now like cats covering up their own shit to throw the niggers a bone in the hopes they won’t look behind the curtain .
The national guard was not activated to help the great unwashed if they get sick or to help prevent the greater population from this latest coronavirus scare ! It’s to control the mass as food and other necessities dry up

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Anonymous
April 16, 2020 9:19 am

Anon.
Between you and Lars youv’e pretty much summed it up with this one addition.
I don’t participate on TBP to just preach to the choir. I suspect there are 2 lurkers for each one who replies and I want to get their attention long enough to plaqnt a seed of curiosity in the hopes they will start doing some research.
Whitey is my term for “The Execptional American” who thinks it can’t happen here and who still cannot fathom the notion that we are expendable. Maybe they will listen, maybe they will try to disprove it, or maybe it will just stick in their brain and follow them around for a while. It’s not important to me whether I ever know what happened. God will use it in the spiritual economy as he sees fit. He just wants me to use what he has given me every day to make a difference. Some days I fall woefully short but I get up the next day and trek back into Damascus to fight again.
We are the New Expendables.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  oldtimer505
April 16, 2020 9:48 am

OT.
Here is a link to consider.
TRUMPS PHONY WHITE NATIONALIST TERRORIST LIST.
http://www.truthtopowernews.com/trumps-phony-white-nationalis-terrorist-list-n2848

BL
BL
April 15, 2020 7:52 pm

In a word, BOTH. We will go through a term of deflation,where houses, cars etc lose a great deal of value while food, utilities etc. continue to increase in cost. After the printing proceeds, look for a hyper inflationary period before the final reset to a new currency.

The final stage is “the tail” at which point gold and silver should hedge your losses nicely. Then there are those “best laid plans” that never work out quite right so who really knows the final script? SMOD may flatten us all. (May 11, 2020)

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  BL
April 15, 2020 7:54 pm

SMOD?

BL
BL
  Fleabaggs
April 15, 2020 8:03 pm

Sweet Meteor of Death Flea. In this case, the magnetic ATLAS COMET due to arrive next month. Indentured Servant prayed for the arrival of the SMOD.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  BL
April 15, 2020 8:12 pm

Oh! Is that the one behind the sun that’s 3 times bigger than Jupiter?

BL
BL
  Fleabaggs
April 15, 2020 9:18 pm

Not that I know of, Nibiru/PlanetX is not the Atlas Comet. Flea, nothing surprises me anymore. There could be a real Hollywood production with this comet, pop some popcorn.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  BL
April 17, 2020 12:35 am

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Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
April 17, 2020 12:37 am

SMOD is meant as a third-party candidate:

John Galt
John Galt
  BL
April 15, 2020 9:58 pm

BL, i would guarantee they will manipulate gold and silver sometime to make people lose faith in it so they can steal it on the cheap. I am not planning on falling for that one. I agree the end of the tail end will be where PM’s shine through but only at the very end. They never want the people to gain.

Take a look at Venezuela. Their own govt refused to allow them to pay off their homes with the cost of an apple due to major hyperinflation. They reprice everyones mortgage daily so they stay in debt. They will not allow the people an ounce of rest. They want to make sure they are always slaves. They know millions would John Galt all this bullshit if everyone could sell a few apples pay off their homes, land, cars, debts sue to hyperinflation. And then they would say screw it Im going Galt. Where”s my garden hoe? They know this…..

BL
BL
  John Galt
April 16, 2020 12:25 am

John Galt – That’s right, you’ve got it and that is unfortunately the way it is.

I’ve actually lived Galt, it is very hard, Mericans would not last long. I was a kid, my father thought it was a good idea, maybe it was.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  John Galt
April 16, 2020 1:33 am

Speaking of garden hoes, probably not a good choice to try it in Michigan these days-no seeds available cuz the guv chick says they ain’t important.

Lebowski
Lebowski
  Anonymous
April 16, 2020 3:46 am

I prefer garden variety hoes myself

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Lebowski
April 17, 2020 12:40 am

I like the high priced ones. Unfortunately, I can’t afford them.

Will hoes go out of business from deflation or make a fortune from hyperinflation?

I’m asking for a friend.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  BL
April 17, 2020 12:33 am

Exactly my thoughts. Deflationary followed after a period by massively increasing inflation.

The worst of both worlds — unless you’re one of the “essential” businesses in the new Kommissariat, like WalMart, Amazon, Home Depot, etc.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 15, 2020 9:51 pm

Having studied markets for years I had a hard time when I first concluded this would end up in a deinflationary cycle. Yes, I made that word up. Because it will be deflation AND inflation at the exact same time. However, I feel there will be literally no credit available but there will be cash buyers. I also feel there will be serious bank failures but somehow the govt will promise to shore up fdic and all those safety seekers that had cash stuck in banks will have to wait 9 years for fdic to give them back their money while they missed once in a lifetime opportunities to buy massively deflated assets with their cash, that the bank gambled with and bailed in. Literally cash, under your mattress will be king. They will manipulate PM’s i feel, even though i am still stacking silver.

Mygirl....Maybe
Mygirl....Maybe
  Anonymous
April 15, 2020 10:00 pm

The Banks have been given carte blanche regarding no need to refund cash. The Fed just gave that mandate. The goal is cashless, the printing to infinity creates a Weimar situation regarding inflation. They will do what they can to prevent deflation regarding the debt although I daresay the debt is of little concern to TPTB.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mygirl....Maybe
April 16, 2020 1:35 am

Printing is so 20th century passe. These days it is all done with a few keystrokes. Kinda hard to audit all those trillions of keystroke dollars.

gman
gman
  Anonymous
April 15, 2020 10:36 pm

“Because it will be deflation AND inflation at the exact same time”

inflationary in what we must pay, deflationary in our assets. in a word, wealth transfer.

Lebowski
Lebowski
  gman
April 16, 2020 3:48 am

Housing is teetering on the abyss in Connecticut anyway

Lebowski
Lebowski
  Anonymous
April 16, 2020 3:47 am

They’re manipulation of gold must be failing as of late

Hans
Hans
  Anonymous
April 16, 2020 6:31 am

I’m not sure what happened to him, but there was an economist named Erik Jansen who wrote a scenario similar to what you are advocating. He called it the Ka-Boom scenario. A huge deflationary bust, maybe a year in length, then rampant inflation. If you can time it right, may be perfect time to use cash to buy hard assets cheap.

gman
gman
April 15, 2020 10:35 pm

the dollar is a fiat debt currency, therefore it is deflationary. when first printed up it looks inflationary, sure, but it is not liquidity, it is desiccant.

gman
gman
April 15, 2020 10:38 pm

“But what would Americans use?”

bullets?

Jdog
Jdog
April 16, 2020 5:14 pm

It will be deflationary, if you understand even the most basic outline of economic principal, you already know that. The only people who think it is inflationary are people who are ignorant of how our economic system works.
That being said, some things will be artificially manipulated like food, and possibly energy. But over all, we will see deflation on all asset classes.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Jdog
April 17, 2020 12:58 am

The end of all small and medium sized business.
Welcome to our new corporatism/fascism/feudalism/”monopolism”/”cartel-ism” or call it what you like. Deflation wipes out whatever small and medium businesses are left — after some assistance, of course, by our WuFlu shutdown — and only the biggest survive.
I still imagine massive inflation at some point, which will further boost our new corporate overlords.
If there’s no hyperinflation, there’s no need for a new digital monetary system (The Mark). I obviously hope I’m wrong, but they want it soooo much.
The boot can’t stomp the face forever if anyone can escape total control {{“Ahhh, sweet soul-crushing CONTROL! We feel the power flow through us!”}}