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Guest Post by The Zman

An old axiom is that the first casualty of war is truth. The facts of the matter stop being important, so both sides feel free to say what they like about the other and the issue at the center of their dispute. Similarly, truth is an early victim of partisanship, as the partisan is only interested in the interests of his group. By extension, one can say that truth is always an early victim of politics. The sides have their interests, which are tied to the people whose interests are being served.

Of course, what we think of as truth is tangled up in the language. In communist countries, the full expression of partisanship in their political struggles meant the language was often humorously dishonest. More than a few men were condemned to death for the crime of being “a bourgeois traitor to the proletariat.” In war time, enemies are described in the most absurd and grotesque terms. often, those epithets stick with the losers as we see with the last European war.

This connection between language and truth is useful, if we can step out of our own partisan sensibilities, in assessing the rationality of a society. North Korea is a good example of this. The gap between official truth and actual truth is so broad in many cases, it lurches into caricature. Iran is another example. Her leaders make claims that strike most people as deliberately ridiculous. This wild language is the result of a great gap between official truth and the actual truth.

Of course, this is turning up in our own society. We live in an increasingly unreasonable age, so the claims of partisans become increasingly unreasonable. The absurdity of calling Trump a dictator, for example, could be excused as fashionable exaggeration, but the people doing it are not exaggerating. Similarly, they are deadly serious when they claim he and his supported are racist, who want to bring back slavery. Their absurd language, reflects absurd beliefs by absurd people.

There is an argument that healthy politics will necessarily have a high degree of exaggeration, as the participants seek to persuade. Since persuasion is the key to democratic governance, the people coming up with these outlandish arguments are, in a fashion, displaying support for the system. They still believe in the fifty percent plus one model, so they pull out all the stops to convince others. Their over-the-top language is, in effect, a signal of their support for democracy.

Maybe there is some truth to it, but we have lots of examples outside the narrow realm of retail politics to suggest otherwise. Look at the great conflagrations on the streets of our cities this summer. Much of it has been organized by people who claim to be opposed to fascism. That’s their reason to exist. Like the communist of old, they oppose fascists and defend democracy. The fact that there are no actual fascists in America does not seem to matter much to them.

The closest thing we have to genuine fascist in modern America are the people claiming to be anti-fascists. The old commies considered capitalists and the middle-class as enemies to their cause. Modern communists have corporate sponsors, are loaded down with consumer goods and come from the middle-class. It’s as if they are on some weird vacation where they get to pretend to be left-wing radicals from a century ago, while not giving up their Wi-Fi access and vegan lunches.

Those corporate and political sponsors of the ant-fascists are defending a political-economy that would be very familiar to the old fascists. Our modern ruling order is a combination of political and corporate interests, with the welfare of the people being the stated objective of both. Large swaths of political power have been handed to corporate giants, in exchange for defense of their corporate interests by the state. It’s why every corporate ad tells us how much the care about us.

America is a fascist country now. It may lack the snappy uniforms and martial order one tends to associate with fascism, but the political-economy of the country is much closer to fascism than Marxism, Capitalism or Republicanism. It is feminine, bourgeois and passive-aggressive, but fascist nonetheless. It will not be long before the official creed of our liberal democracy is, “Everything for the community, nothing outside the community, nothing against the community.”

Now, it should be noted that there are people who occasionally hoist the banner of fascism, but their claims are just as disconnected from reality. Usually, they begin and end with antisemitism, as if that is the only characteristic of fascism. If their politics advance much beyond that, it looks much closer to a crude form of Bolshevism than anything one could classify as fascism. The fascists of a century ago would have viewed them as just another enemy on the street.

For example, one camp of the former alt-right that still goes in for the fascist language and aesthetic wants a centrally planned economy. They want one government bank to provide all banking services, like the post office. They have even flirted at times with the term National Bolshevism. Putting aside the historical partisanship, no fascist, when fascism was a real thing, would have embraced this type of economics. In fact, they would have rejected it as anti-fascist.

Then there is another camp that embraces the ethno-state. Richard Spencer gets the credit for popularizing the idea, but it was not his invention. The idea has been around in Europe since at least the 19th century. The Bolsheviks, of course, would have completely agreed with the notion of a unified people. They would have limited it to the proletariat, but they supported the end of the nation-state. The fascists, in contrast, completely rejected the elimination of the nation state.

Those are just the easiest examples. When you look around, our language is now disconnected from our political reality. The labels used to describe the various sides in political fights historically meaningless. Those saying they are defending democracy are in fact trying to eliminate it. Those who supposedly want authoritarianism really want something closer to a bourgeois civic utopia. Conservatives fight anyone actually trying to conserve anything and liberals oppose actual liberalism.

The madhouse nature of our political language has a lot to do with the rise of mediocrity to positions of power. Maybe nature has withdrawn her favor and we are an increasingly stupid species. Maybe our system rewards the ignorant. Maybe there is some other reason for the dominance of simpletons in our politics. Stupid people communicate in basic language, so they have borrowed the crude juxtapositions of the last century and repurposed them into new partisan labels.

This is what makes this age so maddening to the sober minded. Even accounting for the fact that objectivity must yield to partisanship, there should be some truth content to the partisan rhetoric. Their partisanship should actually be in furtherance of their interests or the interests of the group they claim represent. The lies and misrepresentations should have some purpose. What’s the purpose of “Anti-fascism brought to you by Amazon World Services”?

Another possible explanation for all this is Fukuyama was right in a sense that we have reached the end of liberal democracy. There’s no way forward, so people rummage around in the past for the outfits of the ancestors and then go out on the public stage and reenact old fights. Politics is now a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more. It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

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Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
August 5, 2020 10:05 am

A perfect case study of “The Misinformed tell the Uninformed who become the Illinformed”.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
August 5, 2020 10:49 am

Yoji said “Worst, most confused and confusing, muddying rather than clarifying, essay ever by the Zman.”
I would call it Willful Malinformation. Mal-information because it’s deliberately repeated until it becomes Gospel to the Incurious American online Faux Right Commenting Army.
What we have in the US is 100% Oligarchy. Corporate owned Government. They do not share power with the Govt. they own and operate the Govenment. They are in the process of bankrupting and then owning whatever is left of small and medium independant businesses. When completed it will then morph into Feudalism with a few temporary communist trappings to keep the useful Idiots in line while they are used to eleminate anyone remotely conservative and Christian.
This Faux Race Riot/Anti Fascist revolution is nothing more than a poorly disguised Pogram against conservative Christians.
Now the question becomes who owns this Oligarchy? Who owns the Fed?

Fascism Now!
Fascism Now!
  Fleabaggs
August 5, 2020 11:06 am

“…who owns this Oligarchy? Who owns the Fed?”

Now you sound like a Q-ball.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Fascism Now!
August 5, 2020 11:52 am

Never. Was that humor or did you miss the sarcasim?

Fascism Now!
Fascism Now!
  Fleabaggs
August 5, 2020 12:09 pm

I liked your comment, you support my idea that what we have now is fascism, corporate government. So long as the verbal obfuscation continues, calling it by all sorts of political mumbo-jumbo, the people will continue groping like the blinded residents of Sodom, not knowing they will soon be toast.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Fascism Now!
August 5, 2020 1:38 pm

Fascism is not corporate government. Corporate owned government is Oligarchy.
We presently live in or under a Jewligarchy. Fascism is conservative in the real sense as opposed to what that word means today since you claim that is one of your issues.

A torch light in August (ec)
A torch light in August (ec)
  Fleabaggs
August 5, 2020 2:23 pm

Fascist. Government and corporations working together to buy Tik Tok. Government facilitating the fed rescue of zombie corporations. Government and corporations working together to develop profitable vaccines for a made up pandemic. You are so Jewed up, you can’t see straight. I appreciate your analysis but your Jew conclusions are like a flashing stoplight, people stop and wait for more info but eventually they have to just push through, you are not going to give a green light to anything. It is exhausting trying to avoid offending you.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  A torch light in August (ec)
August 5, 2020 2:51 pm

EC
They are not working together. The government is working for the Oligarchs. In Facism there is a cooperation between the government and corporations but the government is senior and there are protections for the lower classes and a strict conservative social code. Not so in an Oligarchy.
I have provided extensive links and sources showing the Jewish ownership of this country and your false claim about people waiting for more info is outright bullshit. You make snarky comments like “You are so Jewed up you can’t see straight” and then wonder why you offend me. You are so badly Jewholmed you can’t bring yourself to look at the evidence.
What have you offered as proof that we are not an Oligarchy beyond making unfounded false statements. I guess you think the Japs started the war or that Germany did. What do you even know about Churchill? What do you know about the Fascism of Mussolini or Hitler? Have you read Mein Kamph? Do you even know what WWI was about? If you know anything it came from public schooling because it shows in your comments.

Mygirl....Maybe
Mygirl....Maybe
  Fleabaggs
August 5, 2020 4:37 pm

Fascism is statism, Socialism is statism, they both negate the individual in favor of the collective. Unlike the Marxists, the Fascists allow for religion separate from the the State and lay claim to a force of spirit that imbues their power structure and authority.

Both Hitler and Mussolini used corporations to further goals and maintain power, according certain businesses favored status and protection. They worked hand in glove with those preferred companies but those companies and institutions were subservient to the state and the leaders of said state, they didn’t control or set policy.

As to what we are in this country at this time in history? We are no longer a constitutional republic and haven’t been for a very long time. We are owned and controlled by the institutions, the banks, the large corporations, the politicians and any and all levels of bureaucrats. There is no one specific group, there are hierarchies and competing factions fighting for control.

As to an oligarchy, name a time and place in history when or where there was no oligarchy in control. You can’t. Stating that we are an oligarchy is a woefully inadequate description. By it’s very definition an oligarchy is a small group of people who control the masses. These people can come from a monarchy, religious hierarchies, corporations, the military and other select groups and the members of those groups have come into and lost power since time immemorial. Wars and revolutions are fought for supremacy and territory with one group always seeking to overthrow the current power structure.

The word you are looking for is corporatocracy, not oligarchy. Corporatocracy is also related to plutocracy; a country or society governed by the wealthy.

Making the jews the sine qua non of all power and control is short sighted because it ignores the Masons, the Illuminati, the proto Marxists and other groups also vying for power and control.

The true power brokers are the good old boys, the ones who tap into the money river. They have no nationality, no religion, no allegiance to anything but themselves. They see themselves as Olympians and demi gods and they act accordingly. Mere mortals exist to serve them and are of no real consequence, they breed amongst themselves and pass their attitudes, wealth and power down to their progeny.
Go read Vonnegut’s God Bless You Mr. Rosewater for a taste of who really owns you.

Who is the Enemy? The Illuminati Versus the Jews

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Mygirl....Maybe
August 5, 2020 7:01 pm

mgm
From your reply.
“Both Hitler and Mussolini used corporations to further goals and maintain power, according certain businesses favored status and protection. They worked hand in glove with those preferred companies but those companies and institutions were subservient to the state and the leaders of said state, they didn’t control or set policy.”
That is exactly what I said. Did you read it?
You said.”As to an oligarchy, name a time and place in history when or where there was no oligarchy in control. You can’t. Stating that we are an oligarchy is a woefully inadequate description. By it’s very definition an oligarchy is a small group of people who control the masses.”
Then you said”We are owned and controlled by the institutions, the banks, the large corporations, the politicians and any and all levels of bureaucrats. There is no one specific group, there are hierarchies and competing factions fighting for control. Make up your mind or what passes for one. Is that a small group?
You said a small group. I said who owns the Fed. A small group.
Then you said”Making the jews the sine qua non of all power and control is short sighted because it ignores the Masons, the Illuminati, the proto Marxists and other groups also vying for power and control.
This shows you’ve never even looked into it beyond your precious Vonnegut. If you had you would know that all of those other groups get their marching orders from a select few.
Then you said “The true power brokers are the good old boys, the ones who tap into the money river. They have no nationality, no religion, no allegiance to anything but themselves. They see themselves as Olympians and demi gods and they act accordingly. Mere mortals exist to serve them and are of no real consequence, they breed amongst themselves and pass their attitudes, wealth and power down to their progeny.
Go read Vonnegut’s God Bless You Mr. Rosewater for a taste of who really owns you. those you just described are not who you and Vonnegut think. However, it does describe the Rothchild families of Europe but you are so badly Jewholmed you don’t dare inquire.
Your retort is so inconsistent you don’t know what you believe just like your Beta Boy Toy EC. I told you last week I’m done talking to you because you’re only goal is to insult, confuse, and have the last word.
If you ever provide the amount of evidence to prove your argument that I’ve provided to prove mine I might consider debating it.
Until then you and your Beta Boy Toy can pound sand.

Mygirl....Maybe
Mygirl....Maybe
  Fleabaggs
August 5, 2020 9:50 pm

Yo, stupid, your entire premise falls apart because you don’t even know what the word oligarch means and the context in which you misuse it speaks volumes. Castigating someone for not understanding something and then turning around and using the wrong word to attempt to show the malefactor his error is kinda…sad. You are like an Archie Bunker stereotype, double down on ignorant and use volume and anger to compensate for being caught out and called on your ignorance.

I didn’t address my comment specifically to you and I wasn’t rude or lashing out with the ad hominems which is what you do when you can’t offer an intelligent rebuttal. Cutting and pasting what I wrote and then casting aspersions while offering no true counter argument is…weak. I notice that you ignored how I pointed out the precise word that fulfils your definition. Why is that?

I don’t confuse you, you confound yourself when someone counters your assertions and you have no way to defend the indefensible. I didn’t insult you but you assert that I did. Anyone with a brain can read what I wrote without your feeble attempts at misdirection. BTW: Alinsky was all about misdirection and accusing others of the crime he himself committed. You are a leftist little Flea, embrace it, wear it with pride.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Mygirl....Maybe
August 5, 2020 10:00 pm

Yo Bimbo.
A small group of people who control a country. That same small group own everything on the planet because they own all the Central Banks on the planet except Iran and N. Korea which owns all the other banks on the planet. Your ignorance is not my problem it’s your problem.
Piss off.

Mygirl....Maybe
Mygirl....Maybe
  Fleabaggs
August 5, 2020 11:23 pm

Yo. stupid, pay attention….
You wrote:
Fascism is not corporate government. Corporate owned government is Oligarchy.

Wrong. A corporate owned government is a corporatocracy. A new word and a big one but hey, I’m just trying to help you out little fella, I know, it’s hard for you to accept but, here, this is the word you should have used…

Corporatocracy
Corporatocracy is a recent term used to refer to an economic and political system controlled by corporations or corporate interests. It is a form of Plutocracy.

It is specific, definite and to the point. Now thank me for enlarging your limited vocabulary.

Here, let us explore the definition of plutocracy…..

Plutocracy:

A plutocracy (Greek: πλοῦτος, ploutos, ‘wealth’ + κράτος, kratos, ‘power’) or plutarchy is a society that is ruled or controlled by people of great wealth or income. The first known use of the term in English dates from 1631. Unlike systems such as democracy, capitalism, liberalism, socialism, communism or anarchism, plutocracy is not rooted in an established political philosophy.

Is Judaism an established political philosophy? Your contention is that jews control it all and they influence and control politics.

Oligarchy
Form of Government
Oligarchy is a form of power structure in which power rests with a small
number of people. These people may be distinguished by nobility, wealth, education, corporate, religious, political, or military control.
Such states are often controlled by families who pass their influence from one generation to the next, but inheritance is not a necessary condition of oligarchy.

Were the monarchs of England jews? How about the Catholic popes? How about the Medici’s? The Tsar? Rockfeller was a Baptist and he was once the richest man in the world….they were oligarchs in the precise definition of the word and….they weren’t jewish.

A dim light in August (ec)
A dim light in August (ec)
  Fleabaggs
August 5, 2020 5:11 pm

If we start with Ilhan Omar’s reductionist – some people did something – and enter Jews in the first blank, we will arrive at your version of History. I find it hard to accept your view because it is so sclerotic. The thing that is so appealing about Christianity is the bad guys lose in the end. Even Buffett withholds judgment, saying that when the tide goes out, we shall see what we shall see.

theOtherDan
theOtherDan
  A dim light in August (ec)
August 5, 2020 7:27 pm

EC, I’m going to start calling you Einstein because of your energy / mass AKA. I miss your smart ass (humorous wit) persona though… you seem way to dark these days, Yes Christ does win. Therein is our hope. Again, I don’t remember who put me on to the ‘the Jewish Revolutionary Spirit’ but it really is a must read to tie all of the Illuminati, freemasonry, cabal, etc bullshit together.

E=mC2
E=mC2
  theOtherDan
August 5, 2020 10:36 pm

Daniel, my brother, I have had gastritis since Feb. Perhaps that has colored my world. I come up for air once in a while.

Mygirl....Maybe
Mygirl....Maybe
  E=mC2
August 5, 2020 11:32 pm

I suffered from gastritis for a long time. I realized I was allergic to dairy and once off the dairy the gastritis went away. Have you been checked for h. pylori? How about gastric ulcer? Food allergies also contribute as does infection in the intestinal tract. If you don’t have one, you need to find a good gastroenterologist and have them check for all of the above.

theOtherDan
theOtherDan
  E=mC2
August 6, 2020 2:19 pm

OK I’m going to say it because I want to make you smile…..

“I have had gastritis since Feb. Perhaps that has colored my world. I come up for air once in a while”

Yes as do those around you who aren’t social distancing. Sorry I don’t mean to demean your difficulty… coming off 8 days of campylobacter myself not as bad but no fun.

Don’t be so hard on FB.. speaking from experience, when those whom you wanted to defend, abandon you it makes for some… well this… only in a serious fashion. still trying to cheer you up!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkzE23pyME4

I’m going to try and work on him…. that’s right FB you need some ‘tweaking’

On the serious side, my wife of 36 yrs my high school sweetheart of 43 yrs left me last sat. she had, had it w/ the farm… and me. Probably that’s what made me think of the vid above.

Fascism Now!
Fascism Now!
August 5, 2020 11:04 am

Once again, I am forced to admit I have already stated this opinion about the shifting language, recently as a matter of fact. I can’t be that smart, perhaps I am an idiot savant.

But yeah, words cannot express what is going on because the meaning has changed; bad is good and 2+2=5.

On top of everything else, it turns out that math, music and white culture be racist. I wonder if the missionary position is still legit?

Ginger
Ginger
August 5, 2020 11:06 am

The first time a antifa/blm female in shorts supporter holding a phone to record the action has someone have half their face blown off standing next to them will be the day most “protesters” go back home. They hope there will be a Kent State moment of wailing next to a dead rioter, but most can not really stand the sight of just how mangled a person can get. And a person can take a terrible punishment and still be living.
Those guys behind the barricaide had only a few months before been standing in the trenches. Hitler himself had won a Iron Cross which was said to be very rare for an enlisted soldier. An interesting book on German soldiers in the trenches is “Storm of Steel”, the memoir of German Ernst Jünger’s experiences.

A torch light in August
A torch light in August
  Ginger
August 5, 2020 12:15 pm

The black lesbians movement took off before anybody knew what they stood for. Like taking a match to a tinderbox.

TC
TC
August 5, 2020 12:57 pm

A Fascist government wouldn’t tolerate degenerate shit like Drag Queen Story Hour.

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  TC
August 5, 2020 10:06 pm

A fledgling communist country would of course, until the time they take over and kill all their asses first.