The Used Car Market is Crashing But Another is Booming

Guest Post by Eric Peters

Well, that headline needs a qualifier.

The private sale used car market is crashing. Very few people are buying that way, though information about this is being suppressed by not separating out person-to-person used vehicle sales from dealer-to-person sales.

Which are booming. But we get ahead of ourselves.

If you’ve attempted to sell a car lately yourself, you probably already know the score – from the lack of responses (excepting spammers) to your Craigs List or Auto Trader ad. If you’re asking more than $5,000 for whatever it is you’re selling.

The reason being that very few people can scrape together a stack that high.

Back in January – before the Gesundhsitsafuhrers (not the WuFlu) wrecked the economy – Market Watch reported that 74 percent of all salaried workers were living paycheck to paycheck and that three out ten Americans had zero reserve cash at all. They would need to finance a new refrigerator if their old one croaked.

How are Americans doing now, given tens of millions no longer have a paycheck at all  – or a temporary one, issued by the government as compensation for cancelling their employment?

Not well enough to scrape together $5,000 in cash money – much less $10,000 or more in cash money. Without which you cannot buy a used car person-to-person because when you buy such a car, you actually have to buy it. The “down payment” is the entirety of the payment.

The owner isn’t going to let you drive away based on your promise to pay.

And so, fewer and fewer private sales are happening. Much to the manufactured good fortune of used car sellers, including the big chain Carvana – which specializes in fire-sale purchases of vehicles too pricey for the average broke American to pay for at the time of purchase, in cash – but which can be re-sold to them on a pay-as-you-go basis, plus interest.

After having acquired it at the fire-sale price (low trade-in value) from the desperate-to-sell-it former owner, who eats the 15-20 percent lopped off what the vehicle is worth on the retail market.

Which becomes the profit – plus interest – for the re-seller.

Or rather, the re-financer.

The dead broke American who can’t scrape together $5k much less $10k or more can scrape together a few hundred bucks – for the first monthly payment, into which of course exorbitant interest on the loan amount is discreetly folded,making it appear invisible – and “affordable” – to those in denial, the desperate and the innumerate.

In plain language, the least able to afford debt are acquiring more debt.

Cruelly, many of these people would be better-advised to buy – that is, finance – a new car, as the interest rates are often significantly lower and the loan itself is usually spread out over longer because there is more “depreciation cushion.” The new car’s value is much higher to start than the used car’s – and this means you probably won’t find yourself under water – owing more on the car than the car is worth.

For just this reason, lenders – who are many things but generally not innumerate – will not write a loan on a used car that’s too-many-months long, because they are aware of the under water issue and know that a not-small number of people caught by that trap will just stop paying on the loan and walk away from the car, forcing a repo and all the hassle of fining a new debt-serf to carry the load.

But the people who can’t scrape together $5k in cash are often exactly the people who cannot qualify for the new car loan, which may require a substantial down payment as well as excellent credit.

So, they finance the used car – and often pay more per month. On a car that is more likely to suffer a failure of some kind or need repairs such as brake work or new tires . . . which they haven’t got the money to pay for.

Everyone loses in this game – except the big-chain car stores that Hoover up all the used cars at fire sale prices and resell (refinance) them to people too broke to buy the same car outright for less from a private party. The private party, in turn, gets bled of the difference, reducing their “stack” of reserve cash or their hopes of using the money they just lost to pay for some necessary thing with that cash, as opposed to financing it on credit.

If you’ve noticed a common theme here, you’re already ahead of the story. It is the same theme played out during the government-ordered “lock downs,” which harmed private individuals for the benefit of large corporations – which were not “locked down” – notwithstanding that almost all of them sold items that didn’t meet the “essential” criteria propounded by the government.

The really essential thing being the calculated impoverishment of the average American for the sake of these corporate combines, which have as their goal fief dependence via debt, which will give them limitless power over the average American for the simple reason that beggars can’t be choosers.

You get what they give you, nothing more.

Welcome to your new normal.

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19 Comments
MrLiberty
MrLiberty
October 26, 2020 3:27 pm

The bigger problem is going to be the high cost of lumber and steel. Those guillotines aren’t just going to materialize out of nowhere when needed.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
October 26, 2020 3:36 pm

Well that sums up the scam Eric – well done. The same applies here in UK. My friendly local car dealer says he can’t get enough cars to meet demand. It’s gone crazy he says – auctions are pricing high and his only hope is to sell a new car (on finance) with a low priced trade-in and then sell that one with his friendly finance company at hand for interest rates to the moon.

BTW – Diesels are being banned in town centres here, so the price of these has fallen drastically, and I love diesels – more solid engines than petrol and last much longer with regular service.
https://www.buyacar.co.uk/cars/diesel-cars/516/should-i-buy-a-diesel-car-the-future-of-diesel-cars-in-uk

Two if by sea. Three if from within thee.
Two if by sea. Three if from within thee.
  Austrian Peter
October 26, 2020 7:18 pm

Diesel buyers need to be extremely careful sir.
Diesel engines, for a good many years have been cheapened via aluminum blocks and heads. Simply too much kaboom inside the combustion chamber for the metallurgy on a long-term basis. Especially after they turbocharged it. The Benzs I’d worked on and the other German stuff I saw never lived up to the myth of longer and better.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter

Good point, thank you. I would never buy an aluminium one, as you say the compression is too much for Al in the long run.

ottomatik
ottomatik
  Two if by sea. Three if from within thee.
October 27, 2020 10:58 am

500k on my 04 5.9 twin turbo, 2 tranny’s, but yeah all steel

yahsure
yahsure
October 26, 2020 5:49 pm

The whole post is wrong. People are buying used cars because they can’t afford new ones. Old trucks with high miles go for ridiculous prices. If you walk into a car dealer with a thousand dollars and tell them you want a car, they are idiots if you don’t drive away in something. If you can actually afford it is another matter.

Two if by sea. Three if from within thee.
Two if by sea. Three if from within thee.
October 26, 2020 7:21 pm

Well done Mr Peters. However, we’ve seen this malady for private sellers since the ’08 calamity.
That was 12 years ago!!!

tr4head
tr4head

Good pt. They also used their political influence to TAX private sales. No more advantage. They pulled the fast one in GA when we were all sleeping. We howled but nothing changed.

tr4head
tr4head
October 26, 2020 8:10 pm

Good read Eric. Everything imaginable that can happen to wreck the little guy is now being played out via CV 19. Over 25% of the entire equity value of the S&P 500 is in the top 5 companies. These guys want us to live lockdown in a virtual world forever and buy everything from them. I say F’em.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
October 26, 2020 8:42 pm

You’ll own nothing…and you’ll be happy.

And in related news, chocolate rations are up 7 grams this month!

Ouirphuqd
Ouirphuqd
  hardscrabble farmer
October 26, 2020 10:27 pm

We will be forced to conform, the World Economic Forum is a NWO commie bunch of phuq heads!

Two if by sea. Three if from within thee.
Two if by sea. Three if from within thee.
  hardscrabble farmer
October 26, 2020 11:47 pm

Holy sh#!…

ottomatik
ottomatik
  hardscrabble farmer
October 27, 2020 12:57 pm

Who owns everything?

Ouirphuqd
Ouirphuqd
October 26, 2020 10:13 pm

Funny it is, the corporate car lots always have it figured out. Too bad that the young millennials don’t have the assets. It reminds me of Tennessee Ernie Ford song “ Sixteen Tons”. So much for the owning of our “Souls”. Hang in there, things will be spicy because of these disparities, the commie progressives love this situation!

WestcoastDeplorable
WestcoastDeplorable
October 26, 2020 11:10 pm

Sounds like boom-times for “buy-here, pay-here” outfits. J.D. Byriders and Credit Acceptance should be boomin’!

overthecliff
overthecliff
October 26, 2020 11:40 pm

With decent care myy 2004 f 150 should outlast me. Screw them.

Apple
Apple
  overthecliff
October 27, 2020 7:07 am

Depends on the engine. It will prolly be dead the first time they change the plugs if its a 5.0
Read about it.

Apple
Apple
October 27, 2020 7:04 am

Leasing is the way to go if you do the math and take residual values into account. Lease at near zero interest rate when available, and buy the car out if its been reliable or you kept the miles low. If you need to finance the purchase, you are paying interest on only half the new price by then. With covid we were 12k miles under what we paid for, so the wife bought it out. Doing the math, we paid 785 bucks in finance charges over three years on a 42k vehicle. Dealer wasnt looking to get back non-loaded with options vehicles, so we were able to get it for 6k less than the end of lease residual. If we didnt get that deal, and had to refinance the full end of lease value, it would have cost more than leasing a brand new one for three years, twice. Yes, 6 years of leasing vs owning a used vehicle.

Like the world economic forum said, “you will own nothing, rent everything, and be happy”

Truly the only reason she bought it out was the 8 cylinder hemi, and low electronic contraption content. Last of a breed without auto start/stop. And the way prices have been rising, who knows what the future will bring.

You want more verification of what peter is saying, scope out the used SxS market. Shortage of new top end polaris machines, but a glut of used private seller machines, with values well above 20k. Put them on a dealer lot with financing and they are quite literally instantly gone. I know a guy from malone ny who drove to oklahoma for a financable northstar edition. Fucking 25k plus for a used machine with low hours. He financed a glorified atv for seven years. Good fuck. His excuse…it wont matter 24 hours after the election. How do you think its gonna get found, much less repoed?

clayusmcret
clayusmcret
October 27, 2020 1:23 pm

Used cars are selling off dealer lots like hotcakes because there are few new cars available…..because they’re selling even faster than dealers can get them.