Military Readiness Fatigue

Submitted by Ghost

Scrubbed AWACS Flights Lead to Toxic Leadership Allegations at Tinker Air Force Base

This article is disturbing not only because a crew refused to fly a mission due to lack of crew rest and the Wing Commander forced them to suffer through a lecture for it, but is even more disturbing when you grasp that it was the lack of prescription sleep aids that were the problem.

Flight doctors started prescribing Ambien for aircrew members to help with time zone changes and “crew rest” when we started droning Afghanistan using AWACS as drone controllers.

Excerpt:

Crews could be given time between schedule changes to adjust to the new plan and get sufficient rest, he said. If there is not enough time available to naturally adjust their sleep cycle, individual crew members can ask for doctor-prescribed sleep aids — known as “no-gos” — to help them get the rest they need, Coyle added.

“While sometimes needed, medication is the last resort for fatigue mitigation, and should always be used as part of a robust strategy rather than a single solution,” Coyle said. “Flying fatigued is not recommended but sometimes accepted based on the crew position, sortie profile, the experience level of the crews, and/or the importance of the mission.”

The unidentified writer whose account was posted on the amn/nco/snco page said that the crews were not allowed to take no-go pills to help rest for the canceled missions, and that flight crews showed up that day after having slept an average of only three or four hours.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/07/23/scrubbed-awacs-flights-lead-toxic-leadership-allegations-tinker-air-force-base.html

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anon I
anon I
August 18, 2021 11:22 am

Pharmica strikes again.

Auntie Kriest
Auntie Kriest
August 18, 2021 12:27 pm

Used to be USAF flight rule #2: “No Smoking Within 8 Hours and No Drinking Within 50 Feet.”

The high test stuff was reserved for the really long distance stuff: over-the-Pole destinations IYKWIM.

No worries tho’; the new and improved U.S. Woke Force will be getting moar experimental injections including boosters with no telling what the longitudinal effects might be.

Auntie knows that line aircrews and ground operations troops are top-flight professionals; it is the “civilian control” (freaks) plus the Progtard incompetent brass staff at the Pentagram that is pushing the criminal insanity on the military. And all by design for a decisive crash-and-burn* it appears.

*Take the fall of Afghanistan for a prime example.

splurge
splurge
  Auntie Kriest
August 18, 2021 12:49 pm

If it weren’t for general ineptitude no one would be in charge!

Ghost
Ghost
  Auntie Kriest
August 18, 2021 1:56 pm

I’m watching this one now. I really am planning to send out a message to every AWACS person I know, dead or alive, and see if they are willing to run the goat rope with me one more time. LOL

By the way? The lowering of the boom occurs at the 3 minute point.

Some folks around here might notice the windows on the AWACS plane. Others will refuse to admit they are there.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Ghost
August 18, 2021 5:34 pm

My niece flew a KC-135 in the first gulf war, based out of Cyprus.

Back in the late 70’s, I used to sit in an office at Hudiburg Chevrolet and watch the E3’s do touch and go’s. I was always amazed that they could get that thing in the air with the big dome on top.

Ghost
Ghost
  TN Patriot
August 18, 2021 5:56 pm

It is the B-52s that shouldn’t be able to get off the ground but they can. (Wingspan is amazing)

I bought a brand new IROC Z there at Hudiburg in 1988 and then wrecked it in an unfortunate accident a year or so later, so bought a brand new S10 extended cab pickup there in 1991.

I slept during touch and goes. I had 2500 hours, but at least half of that was flying over Iceland or Saudi.

We knew the relationship with the Saudis was just a way to get more money for Boeing then.

Milo
Milo
  Ghost
August 19, 2021 4:56 am

Ghost I’m in, If they let us. just say when, Goat Rope, Cluster F or for Another War Against Common Sense. I’ll show up.
Hit me up at the gmail email below, anytime.
Cheers

Ghost
Ghost
  Milo
August 20, 2021 3:53 pm

Howdy Milo… Some crazy talk from the POTUS today. Referenced that “Over the Horizon” capability and we all know what the droning does… it is like napalm.

It sticks to kids.

What gmail? My IFF contact is [email protected]. Then, I’ll reply with the Mode 4 code of the day. LOL

Ghost
Ghost
August 18, 2021 1:32 pm

I am glad Admin posted this here to help a few folks grasp what “Over the Horizon” technology looks like.

I am going to share this post with the online AWACS community and let them know I know what they know.

This looks interesting too. I’m seeing how many people I recognize. (Not many.)

NormanFranklin
NormanFranklin
August 18, 2021 2:05 pm

I always liked you Air Force boys and girls. You took us wherever we needed to go so we could jump out of perfectly good airplanes. (((Their))) work is almost done. Transforming our formerly formidable military into a broken regional power unable to even protect the nations borders. Of course the fault lies with the occifer corps, the politicians, and the bankers. Death to the aforementioned groups.

Maybe now American young men won’t have to die for pointless banker wars. All wars are banker wars.

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 18, 2021 2:08 pm

guess the days I fondly remember of AWACS meaning Alcohol, Women And Casual Sex are long gone.

Auntie Kriest
Auntie Kriest
  Anonymous
August 18, 2021 4:08 pm

Tailhook Club!

Ghost
Ghost
  Auntie Kriest
August 18, 2021 6:03 pm

I was active duty at the time.

In Iceland, there was the MarBar (Marine Bar) and the Top of the Rock (Airman’s Club).

Milo
Milo
  Ghost
August 23, 2021 4:40 am

Didn’t MWR at KEF do a fish fry on Thursday nights? And they made cheese steaks and big Alabama slammers at the MarBar.

Ghost
Ghost
August 18, 2021 2:17 pm

Disclaimer: My husband spent 20 plus years active duty AWACS and I spent ten active duty. Then we were well positioned after Desert Storm and Operation Enduring Freedom to take government contract jobs and retire out here to the suburbs of the sticks after seeing the Economic Writing on the Wall in 2008 and 2009. Since I had access to the same financial numbers the Pentagon had access to for three years while I worked at “The Depot” (2006-09) for a well-positioned program management company on the banks (pun intended) of the Potomac, well, I saw the economic writing pretty clearly from a pretty good box seat. I was part of the Program Management team, which meant I babysat a financial database and spun out a few reports. I also go bored and learned how to run my own queries.

AWACS has been feeding the military industrial complex shamelessly for decades.

For which I am very grateful, but we left ten years ago when we had enough. Enough is a lot less than people think it is. Especially when the enemy is just outside the gates, like at Tinker.

The same people in charge at Tinker are in charge in DC. Some of the same faces. I really thought I saw Dick Cheney on the flightline in Saudi one time when he really wasn’t supposed to be there and I’d forgotten something on the jet, so made an unauthorized trip down a hallway. And, since I was told I really didn’t see him there, I probably didn’t.

Who benefits? It is always about the money.

Ghost
Ghost
  Ghost
August 18, 2021 3:06 pm

I think the “Over the Horizon” graphic around 6 minutes will be a big hit with TBP.

Ghost
Ghost
August 18, 2021 5:44 pm

Dead Man Whispering

Ghost
Ghost
August 18, 2021 5:46 pm

They dressed him up and shuffled him out to read an update on the COVID19 business.

Toward the end (15 minutes!) he says that the United States has an arsenal of vaccination booster shots to help win the war against this pandemic like we won World War II.

He doesn’t mention Afghanistan.

Surely he couldn’t be catastrophically wrong twice in one week?

He starts whispering that heinous creepy whisper about how dangerous the Delta Variant is… He is INSANE.

Ghost
Ghost
  Ghost
August 18, 2021 5:47 pm

I think, after watching this again, that they are trying to get Biden assassinated.

KaD
KaD
August 18, 2021 8:53 pm

Class Action Lawsuit against the DoD regarding forced vaccination has been filed. https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/41435655/Robert_et_al_v_Austin_et_al

Ghost
Ghost
  KaD
August 18, 2021 11:27 pm

And the SCOTUS refuses to hear such a political case.

Ghost
Ghost
August 18, 2021 11:25 pm

I am going to add to this post tomorrow and will not ” bother” anyone with the discussion unless you want to join the banter, IF it begins. I’m hoping to get some people talking about what we know about all of this.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1122484196

JC gave a very important and short update tonight.

Ghost
Ghost
August 19, 2021 4:10 pm

This popped up on the radar screen today.

Ghost
Ghost
  Ghost
August 20, 2021 3:59 pm

The kinder, gentler US Army… I feel safe and secure, don’t you?

Ghost
Ghost
August 20, 2021 3:45 pm

Here’s the Lame Duck Grifter talking about that Over the Horizon capability again, Mr. Swehla. (Is MarGar aka Maggie)

Would you like to educate folks on Over the Horizon droning?