For the last week, we have listened to reports, opinions, and speculation about the shooting and death on the set of the movie Rust. As a gun owner, I cannot call this unfortunate event an accident. When an innocent person is killed by someone pulling the trigger of a loaded gun, it is not an accident. The gun is not responsible. The person who shot the gun is ultimately responsible. When you have a gun in your hand, you are accountable for that gun, period.
I was listening to the latest report today, and I was flabbergasted. The report included comments from Alec Baldwin’s wife. She claimed that her husband was suffering from PTSD and had difficulty processing what happened to him when he shot the gun that killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the set of the movie Rust.
Alec Baldwin did not have something happen to him. Alec Baldwin is not the victim here. PTSD is typically associated with someone dealing with their experience in combat. To claim Baldwin has PTSD is to minimize the meaning of PTSD. I am sure that Baldwin is traumatized by his involvement in the death of Halyna and the injuring of the movie’s director, Joel Souza. After all, he did pull the trigger.
As this story has evolved, it sounds like it was not if a tragedy would happen, but when. From the complaints and walkouts by the crew about safety on the New Mexico set, to poor handling of the prop gun, to the mixing of live ammo and dummy bullets, many factors led to the fatal incident. I do not wish bad on anyone, but I genuinely hope there will be justice based on the facts without preferential treatment.
The irony in this scenario is how outspoken Alec Baldwin is against the Second Amendment and legal gun owners. Like most Liberals, he would just as soon see all guns confiscated. Apparently, Baldwin and his crew on Rust could have used some of the safety attitude and gun training that most legal gun owners have. Instead, they had an Armorer who had little experience, and her primary skill set was being the daughter of a seasoned, experienced, and well-respected Armorer. The crew also used the prop gun used on set to shoot tin cans with live ammo. There was little respect given to the prop gun as a dangerous weapon.
The “prop” was handed to Baldwin, and the verbal call of “Cold gun” was yelled out.
This declaration meant the gun was loaded with dummy rounds. The weapon was not checked. Baldwin took the gun, broke the cardinal rule, and did not verify the rounds in a gun he was just handed. That was to be a fatal mistake. Believing he had a cold prop, Baldwin squeezed the trigger and shot two people, killing one.
The facts of the incident appear to be consistent with official reports. Nobody has been charged at this time, but the authorities in New Mexico continue to claim all options are on the table. If the people involved were not Hollywood celebrities, we would know little of this unfortunate incident, but we have the contrary in this case.
We are getting daily updates even if, like today, it is comments that Baldwin’s wife should have been kept to herself. The need to fill 24/7 news programming and the morbid curiosity of many means we hear and see it all, significant or not.
We can only hope that the legal system is allowed to do its job. The truth must be uncovered, and the person or persons responsible must answer for the death of a young, innocent woman. A woman would be alive today if people had been appropriately trained, the guns and ammo given the respect deserved, and the rules followed. This story will be resolved soon and move off the front page. Americans have a short attention span, and something will happen to fill the void. Let’s hope it is something positive, and everyone involved lives to discuss it.
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Why continue to give the left wing wacko’s a platform ?
He does have PTSD.
Partisan
Terminally
Stupid
Democrat
Poor feller
Needs a sucky up
He would never make any boot camp
It was no accident. It was a hit job, called in by the Hilldabeast Crime Family.
I have no love for the guy but I’m pretty sure it’s possible that the experience caused him some form of PTSD. Some folks can get through a trauma and have no trouble integrating it into their life experience, but that’s not always the case and this guy doesn’t strike me as be very stable emotionally. Can you imagine what it must feel like to get hoisted on your petard that hard?
And it wasn’t a “prop gun” it was a gun being used as a prop. And I have zero idea what kind of movie requires the 19th century character to fire a round into the chest of a 21st century director, but it sounds weird to me.
Overall it’s just another indication of how things are falling apart. Unqualified people in positions they shouldn’t be, working with out of control egomaniacs with zero adult skills responsible for the deaths of co-workers because they didn’t practice the 1st rule of firearms handling.
The thought has occurred to me, however, that given his public anti-gun stance and that he hobnobs with the very people who are trying to 1.) vilify White men, and 2.) want our guns, this could all be another FF gun operation. Just another way of getting what they want, only this time using famous actors instead of crisis ones.
I smell a rat. And just look at him now, he looks like a fucking rat, with his beady little eyes.
I’m not buying it.
This POS is mental. If that was my daughter, I’d kill the POS.
They’re all insane
The hollow threat brigade rides again, lmao
Basic gun safety violated, case closed. Maybe there’s a reason I have never been on jury duty…
He has DAS. Dumb ass syndrome
Wrong. The sole function of the “armorer” was to store and secure firearms, ensure there was not live ammo, etc.
The entire responsibility rests with the armorer.
Baldwin will walk.
That is what I am thinking. She will be the patsy and Baldwin will pay a lot of money to the husband of the slain woman and the director. I’ll bet his movie career is done, though.
He hasn’t been in anything good since Red Ships of Spain at the Niederlander Theater.
You are anon for a reason. You haven’t a fucking clue about firearms safety. Please educate yourself before your ignorance gets someone killed. See Cooper’s 4 rules of firearms safety, look it up.
This.
The only time you ever point the barrel of a gun at anything is if you intend to kill it.
I don’t understand why something so simple can be overlooked by so many with such self-assurance.
Your wrong for a reason related to IQ.
The armorer exists for the sole reason of managing the firearms. Thats it.
No, You are wrong (you’re). Your is possessive. Any person holding a firearm (real or toy) is 100% responsible for that firearm. If my armorer made the simple mistake of your vs you’re I definitely would have even more reason to know my responsibilities. The armorer did not shoot that firearm, Alec Baldwin did.
Never ever point ANY projectile
Even a kindergarten kid knows never to run around the house with point scissors
When anybody hands you a firearm, you check if it’s loaded regardless of what they say! If you hold it, you are responsible for safety and you never, never point a weapon at anyone, even if it is unloaded!
Makes for a lot of really boring movies.
I mentioned this in a previous post. IMO, the armourer is ultimately responsible for ALL firearms, ammunitions and firearms accessories. Its the armourers job to ENSURE the proper handling, safety and NO live rounds on set.
The ‘actor’ relies on a professional to ensure they are trained and that the firearms they use are safe. An untrained actor cannot reasonably be expected to know if a round is live or dummied. Its not the actors job to ascertain whether the person hired for any job is ‘qualified’ as thats a guilds certification requirement.
The armourer is the person ultimately responsible for the live rounds present and the shooting outcome to be fatal. It
IS
the actors responsibility to ensure the gun/prop is NEVER pointed at anyone, end stop. And it is the actors responsibility for the gun/prop to be demonstrated to him that it is unloaded or rendered inactive if its required to be pointed at a person.
I think like many here that the girl, rightly so, should be charged. But I also think the weasel will do everything to blame everyone else and not spend a day in jail when in fact he should be there until he dies. Just my opinions.
Brian,
You sir are correct, it is 100% the armorers responsibility but only if he/she is the one holding the gun and pulling the trigger. It is 100% the actor’s responsibility when he/she is the one holding the gun and pulling the trigger.
Just more proof that Democrats/liberals shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near a gun … period!
First, whomever takes possession of a firearm is responsible for establishing the status of that firearm. Period. You cannot delegate the responsibility. Once it is in your hands, you are responsible. The shooting was his fault, because he was negligent in his responsibility to handle a firearm safely and know the status of it. That is the standard that would apply to anybody else, and it applies to him too.
Baldwin is a psychopath. He is incapable of feeling compassion for anyone except himself. If he is suffering PTSD it is because he realizes he is probably going to get the shit sued out of him, and he is traumatized about that. I seriously doubt their is another human being on the planet he really gives a shit about besides himself.
No matter how you rationalize it, Baldwin has now killed more people than 99.9% of all the firearms in the United States.
Actually you can delegate responsibility. It is called the armorer who’s only function is to prevent this occurrence.
Yall “experts” , in actuality, no nothing. Perhaps this and the Kyle trial will teach you something.
Unlikely, but always possible, lmao
Just proves you are another liberal who does not have the first clue about firearm safety.
And I hope you have a major meltdown when Kyle is found not guilty. It must suck to be an idiot liberal when reality asserts itself.
Jdog,
Your response to the anonymous poster shocks me. It is obvious that it is the the armorer’s fault. Alec must fire her and explain to the victim’s family and other loved ones that he hired an incompetent person.
I would like to explain to anonymous the proper way to check to see if the gun is loaded. So anonymous, you look down the bore and pull the trigger the appropriate amount of times until the gun’s load capacity has been reached or exceeded. Please give this method a try and let us know how it works out. Don’t worry if it doesn’t work out, we will post our condolences to your loved ones.
Anonymous,
Wouldn’t and don’t trust statements by someone who doesn’t know the difference between “no” and “know”. Absolutely would not take your word on the status of a gun you just handed me. If I were to ask you if the gun was loaded you probably would say know.
Charge him and move the trial to Kenosha. I hear they don’t care much for murderers there.
I’m unaware of any recent murders in Kenosha.
Kid is getting life. Without parole.
Here Alex, this is how ya do it. https://www.tiktok.com/@_petrakov_/video/7026198800402255109?sender_device=pc&sender_web_id=7026658043672954373&is_from_webapp=v1&is_copy_url=0
I would diagnose Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD). He has a life long bout of NPD. This guy is a walking example. A Real Douch!
I have a lot of guns because each is like a “different tool in my shop”. I keep the stored ones unloaded and whenever I pick a gun up, I check to see if it is loaded or not; many times I have been surprised to discover an unloaded gun is actually loaded. Baldwin had a responsibility to check the gun himself and if loaded with anything, to unload it and check out the ammo to be sure it is not real, etc. Even then, he should never point a gun at a person; and never in hell pulled the trigger. He is guilty of manslaughter. He should not get a pass just because he is supposedly a big shot whatever. PS: In Florida, if he would need a CC permit to be walking around with a loaded gun; what’s with California?
incorrect, ma’am
What’s incorrect? If it was Florida, without the CC Permit, he broke the Law (even if he claimed ignorance); and the person who handed him the gun (even if she claimed ignorance). I think both could go to prison just for doing it if the Judge was anti-gun; and she would lose all her guns and gun Rights forever . California must be a liberal fruit & nuts asylum playground.
Idiot
The idiot peanut gallery is saying it was just a practice acting scene. If it was a practice “take one”, Baldwin would not have been pointing his gun at his cinematographer (filming the action) and assistant director (a boss). Baldwin was probably being his usual stupid liberal useful idiot ass clown gun ignorant self. But it was in California so anything goes…
That was one thought I had on this. Why was he pointing a gun at crew members? He is such a jerk we will probably never know the truth. The Libs will cover up for their gun grabbing poster boy. Class AAA hypocrite.
Arrogant prick . Manslaughter at least.