Guest Post by Steve Kirsch
Dr. Toby Rogers writes a popular substack looking at risk benefit issues. His credentials are described here.
In a recent article that I hope everyone will read or at least skim, he concluded: “So, to put it simply, the Biden administration plan would kill 5,248 children via Pfizer mRNA shots in order to save 45 children from dying of coronavirus. For every one child saved by the shot, another 117 would be killed by the shot.”
That’s stunning. Read it again. We kill 117 kids to save one kid.
Not surprising to me. It’s consistent with the scientific peer-reviewed literature such as the Kostoff paper which concluded:
In plain English, people in the 65+ demographic are five times as likely to die from the inoculation as from COVID-19 under the most favorable assumptions! This demographic is the most vulnerable to adverse effects from COVID-19. As the age demographics go below about 35 years old, the chances of death from COVID-19 become very small, and when they go below 18, become negligible.
The Walach paper found the same thing. It has now been re-published in Science, Public Health Policy and the Law which is a peer-reviewed medical journal. The Walach paper appears in this issue along with a scathing editorial by the journal editor talking about how the paper authors were mistreated by the scientific community. James Lyons-Weiler wrote, “Either way, the authors of the latest paper in Science, Public Health Policy, & the Law (Walach et al.) have been caught, like grist in the mill, in a nonsensical, convoluted torture session in which their detractors have broken all logic and reason on the question of how society renders causal inference between vaccine exposure and serious illness or death.” James would love to debate anyone who disagrees with his editorial, but nobody wants to talk about it.
They don’t really care how many kids they kill from the vaccines. It just doesn’t matter. Their sole focus is on saving kids from dying from COVID, regardless of how many kids have to be killed from the drug. All-cause mortality is ignored entirely even though Pfizer’s own study showed 4X the deaths from cardiac arrest in the group that got the drug.
Even though there were 20 deaths in the group that got the vaccine vs. 14 deaths in the group that got the placebo, they can simply write that off as “not statistically significant.” In other words, the data does show that the drug does kill more people than it saves, but the study was never powered to measure that. So they can say “nobody knows” as long as they can keep fooling everyone to believe that the VAERS data is unreliable (which it isn’t which I address in detail here).
Over 22,000 people have read Toby’s analysis and nobody came up with a better estimate or a material error in his analysis. There were nothing but compliments on the quality of the analysis. In particular, nobody from the CDC or FDA pointed out any errors.
Here’s the background…
On September 24, 2021, Toby posted this reasonable request on Twitter:
He did get a response, but not to the question he asked. He wrote, “Pharma sent a swarm of trolls in to attack me and Pharma goons published hits pieces on me outside of Twitter to punish me for even asking the question. Of course none of the Pharma trolls provided an estimate of the NNTV for COVID-19 shots. That tells us that we are exactly over the target.”
Since nobody, not even the trolls, responded with data, he started looking into it himself.
Next, he wrote a series of articles on what he found; the risk-benefit analysis for the current COVID vaccines. In particular, he examined the case for the 5 to 11 year cohort which was just approved by the FDA.
I like Toby because he doesn’t pull any punches when he writes. He calls a spade a spade. Here are a few “highlights” from his recent articles that I think everyone should know:
- “So then the NNTV to prevent a single fatality in this age group is 630,775 (28,384,878 / 45). But it’s a two dose regimen so if one wants to calculate the NNTV per injection the number doubles to 1,261,550. It’s literally the worst NNTV in the history of vaccination.” [ NNTV article ]
- “Where to even begin with the FDA’s preposterous risk-benefit analysis of Pfizer’s mRNA COVID-19 “vaccine” in children ages 5 to 11?” [Red flags article]
- “The FDA’s risk-benefit analysis in connection with Pfizer’s Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) application to inject children ages 5 to 11 with their COVID-19 vaccine is one of the shoddiest documents I’ve ever seen.” [Red flags article]
- “The CDC “Guidance” document describes 21 things that every health economics study in connection with vaccines must do and the FDA risk-benefit analysis violated at least half of them.” [ NNTV article ]
- “Pharma HATES talking about NNTV and they hate talking about NNTV even more when it comes to COVID-19 vaccines because the NNTV is so ridiculously high that this vaccine could not pass any honest risk-benefit analysis.” [ NNTV article ]
- “If the FDA or CDC want to calculate a different NNTV (and explain how they arrived at that number) I’m all ears. But we all know that the FDA refused to calculate an NNTV not because they forgot, but because they knew the number was so high that it would destroy the case for mRNA vaccines in children this age. Your move CDC — your own Guidance document states that you must provide this number.” [ NNTV article ]
- “So the Number Needed to Vaccinate in order to prevent a single hospitalization, ICU admission, or death, according to Pfizer’s own data, is infinity. ∞. Not the good kind of infinity as in God or love or time or the universe. This is the bad kind of infinity as in you could vaccinate every child age 5 to 11 in the U.S. and not prevent a single hospitalization, ICU admission, or death from coronavirus according to Pfizer’s own clinical trial data as submitted to the FDA. Of course Pfizer likes this kind of infinity because it means infinite profits.” [ NNTV article ]
- “I’ve studied corruption at the FDA & CDC for a while now (6 years) and I’m always shocked at how brazen and blatant it is.” [this is a comment Toby wrote in the NNTV article shown below ]
- “A funny thing happened this afternoon. Not funny as in “haha”. More like funny as in, “ohhhhh that’s how the FDA rigs the process.” [ NNTV article ]
- “I watched all 6+ hours of the ACIP meeting today. Here are my initial reactions. These people are batsh*t insane. They live in an alternative universe. As cartoonish as the FDA’s VRBPAC meeting was last week, this was even worse.” [ACIP article]
- “Pfizer learned their lesson with the adult trial and so when they conducted a trial of their mRNA vaccine in children ages 5 to 11 they intentionally made it too small (only 2,300 participants) and too short (only followed up for 2 months) in order to hide harms.” [ NNTV article ]
There is more, but you get the idea, right?
But the dose for the kids is 1/3 the adult dose… doesn’t that reduce the risk?
The short answer is nope. These people are playing fast and loose with the data. What they did is extrapolate the benefits from the older kids and claim that the benefits would be unchanged even at 1/3 the dose. So if they do that, then the risks should be unchanged as well.
If they admitted that the benefits may scale down with the dose, then the risks are likely to scale down as well.
Note that there were no benefits demonstrated in the 5 to 11 trial because it was too small to show that. So the benefits are really completely unknown. We have to extrapolate from the older age groups.
It’s not a compelling case to inject our kids
Solonsax wrote me on Gab the following questions with respect to the 5 to 11 cohort which I was unable to answer because there is no data that I’m aware of. Perhaps someone else can? (good luck)
How will one child be saved by the jab? Please explain.
1) The injection does not confer antibody immunity to the COVID-19 virus (SARS-CoV-2); it promotes antibodies to the ‘synthetic spike protein’; that spike protein is not specific to the SARS-CoV-2 virus
2) The antibodies produced do not provide protection from the pathogen (SARS-CoV-2 virus)
3) The injection does not reduce hospitalizations or deaths
4) The injection does not reduce severe symptoms
5) The injection does not prevent the carrying of the pathogen
6) The injection does not stop transmission from one person to the next
So are these injections vaccines?
The conclusion therefore is NO. This injection for COVID-19 is NOT a vaccine (the vaccines do not stop infection, transmission, severe COVID, hospitalization, or death); it is best described as a gene manipulating platform. The mRNA shots has had disastrous results on laboratory test-animals for decades. Injecting RNA into the body to force the body to make SARS-CoV spike proteins, is itself very harmful. When our immune system detects the presence of the SARS-CoV spike protein, it attacks it with antibodies and lymphocytes. This causes cell death and other complications. Worse, the spike protein itself is toxic to cells. Among other things, it can cause bleeding and clotting throughout the body. In a very ugly twist, the spike protein is engineered in such a way that it especially attacks the testes and ovaries, potentially causing hormonal irregularities and sterility. The jab is very dangerous in multiple ways and in no way should it be considered a vaccine.
Nobody wants to know the NNTV?!?
It is amazing that there is no NNTV analysis from the FDA or CDC isn’t it? And isn’t it surprising that nobody in the mainstream media is asking for it?
Nobody in the mainstream medical community wants to see the NNTV analysis (and the associated risks) either! Do you see Eric Topol asking any questions? Monica Gandhi? Sanjay Gupta? Of course not!! Don’t be silly. That is never going to happen.
Even worse than that is that nobody on either the VRBPAC or ACIP committees wants to know the NNTV and see the risk-benefit analysis using the proper URF and the VAERS excess mortality analysis. So if you were ever on the fence on whether the system is rigged by the drug companies, you have your answer. The oversight committee members aren’t critical thinkers. None of them. I tried emailing all the members many times. NOBODY would engage in the data we found about VAERS (and we have the top VAERS experts in the world on our team).
Nobody in Congress wants to talk about the NNTV or the kids we will kill
Nobody in Congress will ask about it either. They never hold these people accountable. They trust them. Completely. Except maybe Senator Johnson and Senator Rand Paul who have been the only ones asking questions. Sadly, nobody else cares about how many people we kill with these “vaccines.” Seriously. Call your congressperson. You will never be able to ask them about it.
I’ve tried to get 5 seconds with my member of Congress, Anna Eshoo to talk about the issue of vaccine safety and all cause mortality caused by the vaccines, but she doesn’t want to hear about it and blows me off every time. Won’t take a meeting. Won’t answer any questions. Her staff no longer responds to any emails I write. They won’t tell me how our analysis is wrong. Their attitude is that it must be wrong because the CDC is never wrong. They won’t even read what you wrote.
Nobody will debate us on this analysis, even though it’s the only one out there
If anyone qualified wants to do a public recorded debate with Toby and our team on this, we’ll happily do this so we can resolve any issues ASAP. But nobody is going to want to do this. You won’t find anyone in the comments below saying, “let’s debate it.” That’s just not going to happen and that pretty much tells you who is on the winning side of this argument.
And the people who think the vaccine is safe cannot argue that they don’t have the time to do this because: 1) they want to stop misinformation and 2) this is the only qualified guy to have done the risk-benefit analysis so it’s not like there are hundreds of these. This is the only one!
They all say they want to stop misinformation. Fine. All they have to do is agree to a recorded scientific discussion where they can explain to us how we got it wrong and answer our questions and show us the correct answer. They will not do that. They will ignore and censor us to avoid being put in a situation where they will have to answer any pesky questions from people who know what is going on.
Wow. Just wow.
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Firing squad at dawn…….no blindfold.
The peasants desire so much to shoot the henchmen so that the culprits are free to offend in another generation. It is beyond silly.
The culprits may have pulled the strings, but it’s the henchmen who do the deed.
My point isn’t to absolve them, it is to emphasize that people tend to stop accountability with the henchmen and then the same families commit the same atrocities on subsequent generations.
Dont take RNA. There is no pandemic.
600,000 die each year from cancer, but government doesn’t force chemo and radiation on us. 660,000 die each year from heart disease, but we aren’t force fed anti-cholesterol drugs. Only 400,000 die each year WITH covid, not from it. There is no pandemic. Tell your friends, family, and employers to calm down.
Mostly the wrong questions. Why is that?
hmmm. I am going to guess because they are rat faced traitorous fiends.
If you still do not understand they desire to kill you, perhaps you do not have what it takes to survive.
OTOH, it is going to be even worse if we let the Luciferians control influence human evolution.
We are the last generation of true Humans. The next will all be GMO (Transhuman) and therefore not “Human” in the legal sence.
Once the majority become Transhuman the last of the Humans aka “The Remnabt” will be disposed off.
After the Transhumans comes the “Post Humans” – the new species with the synthetic genome and bio-electric connectiveity.
“And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.” Matthew 24:22
117:1, huh?
Honestly, I kinda need to know which kids are goners before I’ll know how to feel about this.
You forgot to mention that the child who was supposed to be saved from COVID later ended up dead because of the jab.
No one is going to debate you, Steve.
Why? Because they don’t need to in order to accomplish their goals. This is what nearly complete control of the media does for them. It’s literally the most important factor there is. They’re effectively invincible from criticism and have an iron grip on the flow of information. Sure, we can bitch on the internet. But the current state of the country is all you need to look at to understand how effective that is.
One thing will change this dynamic, and it’s real accountability. That’s it.
Also, Steve should change the title:
We will kill 117 kids to save one child from dying from COVID in the 5 to 11 age range
to
*They* will kill 117 kids to save one child from dying from COVID in the 5 to 11 age range
We aren’t on their side and shouldn’t pretend that anyone is in any of this together. They’ve lost their minds and it will be awhile before society sobers up. History will not look kindly on this episode.
History is always written by the winner. We have to win to write.
Yes, it’s called reporting by omission.
‘The most insidious power the media has, is the power to ignore.’
Chris Plante
Look, this is not about health. This is a very elaborated psyop experiment, which created a cult where its members are now willingly injecting themselves with slow poison. The keyword here is willingly. All the information is out there, it is all public, the available vax is only under a EUA approval, so it is never mandatory, even the mandates come with both medical and religious exemptions, yet 90+% of people are still choosing to inject themselves with poison. This is indeed one very perverted and very brutal IQ test.
Like Grandad used to say. “Gonna be dumb, better be tough”.
WARNING! Take your kids out of the schools immediately. Do not go to a hospital under any circumstances other than a very REAL emergency and pray you don’t ever have an emergency because my GUT feeling is these demon uckfers are going to JAB you with Fauctheeth’s mRNA jab.
AND they are gonna JAB your kid whether you like it or not. It’s my belief to give them cancer , organ failures, tumors, etc., and/or STERILIZE them.
Excellent advice
I will say if this starts killing kids,……,well…….,get me paperwork together and then we hunt like no tomorrow!
We bleed out the assholes till there is no blood left!
Any with me at that point?
That happens we have crossed way beyond a Rubicon and now are working literally in hell.
As always,will be more then happy to be wrong/just not sure at this point in time.
Excellent article and I plan to follow Leethal’s advice. This phenomena of so many accepting these experimental clot shots and subjecting their children to them is just so strange. As Observer indicated for us in the the US it has all pretty much been voluntary so far and the damage being done is obvious to see as sports athletes and people dying and getting health problems is everywhere. Why would people trust notorious criminal outfits like Pfizer in the first place not to mention politicians? While having no trustworthy healthcare system is concerning even more problematic is the pattern we can see developing throughout the world as it starts as voluntary it shifts to mandatory and then apparently to brute force.
I cannot speak for the rest of the nation. The Blue Hives will do what Blue Hives do. In my A/O(Kootenai County, ID) the HKIC(Head Karen In Charge) was gloating from her administrative podium at the Panhandle Health District how they are ready to start giving the stick to the five to eleven-year-old demographic.
Given the blow back by parents on 09/24/2021 at the CDA School District Offices when a group of “concerned physicians” even suggested to the red-diaper-doper Biden Babies on the school board masks should be mandated, I do not think this genocide of white children will be happening to any great extent in this corner of the Gem State. Stay tuned.
Fight back/hard……..