Ignorance, Its Uses and Nurture

Guest Post by Fred Reed

Democracy may not be the silliest idea concocted by man but, for anything larger than a small town, it is crackpot. It consists in the idea that a public, on average knowing almost nothing, can choose leaders in popularity contests among provincial lawyers  who know little more and are required to know nothing, except how  to get elected.

In a democracy, this  ignorance is both a protected quality, like motherhood and a valued resource. By common consent, the ruled do not look too closely at the mentality of elected rulers, and the rulers speak solemnly of the wisdom of the people, who hve none. Reporters will ask, “Senator, what are your views on Afghanistan?” but never, “Senator, where is Afghanistan?” or “Can you spell Afghanistan?”

To plumb the depths of democratic puzzlement, we might, by means of polls, askhow many voters   can name three cities in China apart from Beijing, Shanghai, and Hongkong. Or how many can name even those cities. Or how many know even one date in Chinese history, or Can name a single province. Yet they know that China is perfectly dreadful and dangerous.

Ask what countries border on the Caspian or Black Sea. Or, seriously,how many  have ever heard of the Caspian. In today’s politics, these are not quiz-show trivia but influence Washington’s choice of our next war’.

See how many have heard of the Minsk Accords. If they have not, they lack a hamster’s grasp   of the Ukraine war. What they think they know probably comes through CNN and MSNBC, assiduous hawkers of the not so.

Gallup: Twenty-one percent of Americans believe the sun revolves around the earth.

Fifty-four percent of Americans read below the sixth-grade level.

A good bet is that the lower third in intelligence of the population know nothing at all of international affairs and exceedingly little of national.  Given the appallingly poor schools in the cities, another good bet is that the proportion of blacks cognizant of international geography or politics is vanishingly low. Since Latin American cardiac surgeons and system programmers do not swim the Rio Bravo to pick oranges in Florida, the Hispanic percentage is unlikely to be greatly better. Taken as wholes, none of these three groups is remotely qualified to vote.””

Representative Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas) stunned attendees at a high school solar eclipse event Monday by claiming the rock-solid moon is a “planet” that is “made up mostly of gases” — before adding she still wants to be “first in line” to learn how to live there.

I suggest sending her. She is the former top Democrat on the House Science Committee’s  space subcommittee.

“While little more than a third of respondents (36 percent) could name all three branches of the U.S. government, just as many (35 percent) could not name a single one.

n reading, 628 Patterson High School students took the test. Out of those students, 484 of them, or 77%, tested at an elementary school reading level. That includes 71 high school students who were reading at a kindergarten level and 88 students reading at a first-grade level. Another 45 were reading at a second-grade level. Just 12 students tested at Patterson High School, were reading at grade level, which comes out to just 1.9%.

While people who read political columns online are likely of intelligence above the average, i wonder how many who rail against capitalism, socialism, fascism, racism, and terrorism can define the words.

I recently checked the bios of the members of the House committee on China to see how many read, write, or speak Chinese. None.  Thus do we make policy regarding the most important foreign country on the planet.

A friend, a former US Senator, once estimated, dead serious, that ninety percent of the Senate doesn’t know where Myan Mar is. If you and I, dear reader, do not know this, it probably doesn’t matter. The Senate engages in foreign policy.

It is important to note that intelligence does not by itself confer the capacity to vote. I know people way into the upper percentiles who do not have the time or the interest to worry about foreign policy, for example. There are engineers, neurosurgeons, mathematicians, journalists, musicians and artists, whose minds just don’t run in political directions, especially involving obscure countries on the other side of the world. Neurosurgeons have families who merit attention, journals to read to keep up with their fields, perhaps a hobby or two, and  don’t have much left over to worry about a new Russian pipeline across Mongolia, wherever that is.

People I have met of IQ 190 or better, maybe four (of whom I assuredly am not one), have had the memory and analytical capacity to, I think, approximate an understanding of politics, history, and so on. These people are so rare as to be almost nonexistent. The rest of us at best can know  bits and pieces.

For example, my knowledge of Caucasian politics consists entirely in the fact that Washington wants to put military bases in Georgia  to help surround Russia.  I am blankly ignorant of Congressional and state politics, agricultural policy, or much about what Blackrock is doing around the world. There is too much to know, and too little wit to know it with.

If we ignore exceptions and degrees, the public can be regarded as a vast semi-comatose polyp that knows only whether it is comfortable or cold and wet  and has enough  to eat. If the economy is good, people will vote for incumbents, whether these have any responsibility for the prosperity or not. If wars can be fought without inconveniencing them, in places not actually within their visual horizon, they will pay scant attention. They will not concern themselves with education as long as their children get good grades, however unrelated to anything learned. Their interests are local, though they can be stirred up over this football team or that, this Trump or that Biden, or morality plays about police brutality or the righteous heroism of Ukrainians.

Taking into account the aforementioned poor education, controlled media, and American anti-intellectualism–Americans seem to dislike the obviously intelligent–and you have a polity utterly incapable of anything approaching functional democracy. Rev the people up over the Superbowl or morality tales about the Ukraine or Russia and they will do anything desired. Roll over. Bark. Beg. Nothing to it.

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Iska Waran
Iska Waran
April 26, 2024 7:44 am
Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Iska Waran
April 26, 2024 7:51 am

A just machine to make big decisions
Programmed by fellas with compassion and vision
We’ll be clean when their work is done
We’ll be eternally free, yes, and eternally young

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Iska Waran
April 26, 2024 8:03 am

The Machine Stops by E. M. Forster First published in the Oxford and Cambridge Review, November 1909
https://www.cs.ucdavis.edu/~koehl/Teaching/ECS188/PDF_files/Machine_stops.pdf
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JACINDA ARDERN, 19 MARCH 2020: “WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE YOUR SINGLE SOURCE OF TRUTH.”

The Donald’s Disastrous Fourth Year— But Don’t Blame the Covid

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“Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. No one in this world, so far as I know—and I have researched the records for years, and employed agents to help me—has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.” ― H. L. Mencken, Notes on Democracy

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Iska Waran
April 26, 2024 8:37 am

I’ve been deep diving into Steely Dan recently with my youngest son since he he started listening to them. I have been a fan since I was 12- over a half century and every song they’ve ever done is timeless- phenomenal production quality, top shelf performances by a wide assortment of the best musicians of their time, and those enigmatic and eloquent lyrics…

They simply do not make music like this any longer.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  hardscrabble farmer
April 26, 2024 9:16 am

Yes, I loved this song since the first time I heard it.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  hardscrabble farmer
April 26, 2024 9:23 am

Other Dan fans:

Steely Dan | Green Earrings EXTENDED (INSTRUMENTAL ~SANS LEAD GUITAR)

Comments on above:
@TheExStig 6 years ago Guitar ‘singing’ “I can’t take it – The girl can’t help it” 6:20 Lol! 8 Reply 1 reply @ColinPeterikMusic 4 years ago Hahah good catch 1 Reply
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More from Rick:
https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=b48e549650e04a60&sca_upv=1&q=rick+beato+steely+dan&tbm=vid&source=lnms&prmd=vinsmbtz&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjOwcLM_t-FAxVbD1kFHXtFClsQ0pQJegQIDxAB&biw=1163&bih=501&dpr=1.65

cz
cz
  hardscrabble farmer
April 26, 2024 9:57 am

for extra-credit fun, check out tim pierce’s (he’s a very accomplished studio player) utube channel where he plays and tells behind the scene studio stories. he’s done a few on steely dan.
here’s one:

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  hardscrabble farmer
April 26, 2024 12:32 pm

Pure musical genius, I can listen for hours on end!

anon a moos
anon a moos
  hardscrabble farmer
April 26, 2024 12:53 pm

SOOO many great bands, like Super Tramp, Floyd, Zeppelin, April Wine… When musician produced a lot of their own songs and wrote their own music.

Todays music is crap, start to finish. Its fake just like Jbeaver, canned woke political rubbish.

The True Nolan
The True Nolan
  hardscrabble farmer
April 26, 2024 6:18 pm

“They simply do not make music like this any longer.”

No, they do not. It is not even a matter of what you or I like. It can be objectively shown that the quality of music has devolved. Modern music is designed for a dumbed down, average 85 IQ, coarsened demographic. And getting worse.

zappalives
zappalives
  Iska Waran
April 26, 2024 8:32 am

Maxine……….is a great song on that album too.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  zappalives
April 26, 2024 9:32 am

Here’s the whole album:

The vid:

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
April 26, 2024 8:32 am

Myan Mar?

Is that how we’re spelling it now?

Ed
Ed
  hardscrabble farmer
April 26, 2024 8:50 am

That’s how Fred spells it, apparently. I’m cutting him a little slack since he’s about as old as I am.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Ed
April 26, 2024 9:41 am

And he’s blind, now, with help from the marines and VA.

anonymous
anonymous
  hardscrabble farmer
April 26, 2024 1:06 pm

Myanmar is sitting on top of Burma. Poor Burma must be suffocated by now.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 26, 2024 8:51 am

That is so true.. I’m going to ask one the next time I see one.. They also hide a lot 🙂

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 26, 2024 9:19 am

People really have minimal understanding of above average.

Let’s look at IQ. And for those that don’t understand its purpose, it was APTITUDE. In other words, the ability to learn, understand, process, utilize
higher concepts such as math. If you couldn’t make it to calculus, your IQ isn’t over 110. If you got through calculus and the associated differential equations, matrices, and linear systems .. then you are over 120. Note that “PhD” is not intelligences or high aptitude. Most PhDs are <115 unless you are in the math fields.

Let’s still suppose a median of 100 IQ. The Average range is then 1 standard deviation from the mean. This puts average roughly at 90 – 110 IQ. If you arent over 110 IQ you are not above average.

Note, again, this is aptitude … not education. There are plenty of blue collar workers that have brilliant aptitude and you can see it in there work. My cousin was a drywall hanger. He was known throughout several counties because he was fast and it was high quality work, displaying master competency … of course he was a mechanical engineer.

My point here is that if you believe you are high IQ or above average IQ, you probably are not in that segment, you are still just average.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Anonymous
April 26, 2024 9:35 am

I don’t think that math is the hinge pin upon which the gate of IQ swings. Most math geniuses I’ve met can barely function and have close to no aptitude for other disciplines beyond mathematics. An ability to do well in calculus is a specialized use, like the ability to throw a baseball over 90 mph. Useful in an extremely limited scope, indicative of a specific kind of intelligence rather than overall.

Maybe we’re testing for the wrong things. Real intelligence should be reflected in how one manages to operate in the physical world successfully without artificial inputs.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  hardscrabble farmer
April 26, 2024 9:51 am

People still say, steer your college student into STEM professions. If they don’t have the talent it will be torture for one thing, Much of this has been driven by our Technological Society. Not the tech itself necessarily but the drive for efficiency, the next best thing, etc.
outcomes are stupid and criminal biology, energy, etc. ‘professions’ with ethics and morals of machines.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
April 26, 2024 9:40 am

higher concepts such as math. If you couldn’t make it to calculus,

certainly shows a certain KIND of mind

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Anonymous
April 26, 2024 3:17 pm

Indeed it does. The point is that there are varying kinds of intelligence just as there are varying degrees. And while mathematic excellences is certainly indicative of a much more developed mind, it doesn’t mean it is a requirement for higher levels of thought.

My Great-Uncle, and to a lesser extent his son, both had eidetic memory. You could hand him a stack of random baseball cards and he’d look at them, pass it back to you and answer every question about every stat accurately. He was also a great gardener, but I don’t recall him reading much or having much to say about anything beyond the weather or meals. In all other ways he was pretty average, but you’d have to agree that his particular gift was indicative of some kind of higher functioning intellect.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  hardscrabble farmer
April 26, 2024 3:38 pm

In certain time periods SATs correlated to IQ, the SAT being nothing but a basic math and verbal test. Being well-educated doesn’t have any bearing on it, iirc.

*Of course, I’m a tard who hits reply before I’m done.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  hardscrabble farmer
April 26, 2024 7:21 pm

As it happens, I have an eidetic memory as “diagnosed” in 1955. Now, at 77, I have a head full of useless “snapshots” and “videos”, but I can still win “Trivial Pursuits” contests as long as they deal with stuff pre-about-1970. It was useful to me in my trade (eighth scalper), but beyond that, it was and now much more is largely for amusement purposes. I have no complaints, given that it is a “gift “, but I agree, it’s not necessarily an indicator of high intelligence, but may hint at it. In my case, of course, heh heh heh.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
April 26, 2024 3:55 pm

One in six whites is as dumb as the average american nigger. You might need to get tested.

Pilotdoc
Pilotdoc
  Anonymous
April 26, 2024 5:59 pm

You can also see it in their work…

Mary
Mary
April 26, 2024 9:44 am

In this day and age if a Politician is not computer / internet security/ programming / coding / ect.. savvy they are probably relying on a tech to help them navigate. Only just recently did some of them realize that all apps have a back door. Many still don’t understand that programs and apps are always running in the background. I think the standard IQ test is outdated.

cz
cz
April 26, 2024 9:50 am

the sun sets. the sun rises. just sayin’.
Joshua 10:13

Mr. Hyde
Mr. Hyde
April 26, 2024 10:12 am

Pure democracy like in ancient Athens cannot work over a long period of time. For example, the voters in Athens repeatedly voted to execute some of their best generals. No trial, just hands up and sentence pronounced.

Our democratic republic works because it creates at election time a huge public consciousness. The electorate all votes in its own best interests and desires. Mostly it acts like a huge governor and moderator. Most times raw, spur of the moment decisions are not made by an inflamed mob. Yes, some voters are well educated, smart, and conversant with current events while others are ignorant, stupid and uninformed. As such, though, they represent the population as a whole, not just some elite group or special interest. When all those opinions, prejudices, and well thought out positions are combined, the group decisions are fairly representative of the average of what’s best for the country. Fortunately, the lowest 50% of eligible voters don’t stir themselves from their game shows, beer and chips to vote.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mr. Hyde
April 26, 2024 1:36 pm

go to a polling place and tell me that those people aren’t a bunch of gameshow watchers

I hate election news but I enjoyed the last one because of all the dumb niggercattle lined up in their face-diapers. It was like a slightly better dressed ‘people of walmart’

lamont cranston
lamont cranston
April 26, 2024 11:43 am

And 90% of the American public can’t understand how you surround Russia by building military bases in Savannah, Vidalia & Atlanta.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  lamont cranston
April 26, 2024 3:18 pm

It’s a Georgia joke, right?

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 26, 2024 11:59 am

The Nurture of Ignorance:

The Vast Pharmaceutical Conspiracy to Silence Online Dissent
Millions of dollars were spent to weaponize the public against all of us
https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/the-vast-pharmaceutical-conspiracy

anonymous
anonymous
April 26, 2024 1:04 pm

Half right and half wrong, as usual.

Does Fred really thing that being able to name 5 less major cities and some historical dates in Chinese history really qualifies anyone to be able to negotiate affairs of state with them?

Conversely, does he think that being fluent in Chinese (does that include reading both characters and pinyin, and which dialect(s)?) is required to sit on a committee dealing with the country?

Or is this just a typical Fred rant?

Does not knowing which countries border the Caspian negate any or all of the benefits of a 190 IQ? (The highest realistic IQ is generally considered to be about 160.)

Most people are idiots, including you and I. Especially including Fred. This is because it is much easier to be an idiot, requiring much less time and energy, and allowing for better trade-offs.

I have deliberately chosen to know less of theoretical physics, the biosphere of deep water volcanic ocean vents, and the ancient history of the Serbo-Croatian royal family trees in order to be able to go fishing, have a beer or two, and take my dog for a walk.

It seems that according to Fred, this means I am incapable of holding a meaningful opinion on both deepwater ocean vents and fishing. I can neither consider the politics of Eastern Europe, nor opine about the breed of my dog.

I guess if I need to know any of the gotcha facts he likes to trot out in his articles, I can always go look them up.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  anonymous
April 26, 2024 4:09 pm

I have deliberately chosen to know less of theoretical physics…
There are many subjects I have chosen to know less (or any at all, for that matter) about–for similar reasons. What if one simply has no interest in what one’s IQ may be? Does that make them part of the ‘Low IQ crowd”? ‘Asking for a friend’. 😉

anonymous
anonymous
  Anonymous
April 26, 2024 9:12 pm

You only have so much time and energy. I suspect we’ve all met people who brag about their IQ, their education, their intelligence. And we’ve seen that these people could not pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were on the heel.

Fred is an idiot savant…less the savant. Anyone can complain. He likes to complain that people don’t know facts (that he just looked up) and so they are ignorant.

It gets tiresome.

Having no particular concern about how others label your intelligence suggests your friend is a pretty level-headed person, and is focused on more important things that will actually improve his life.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  anonymous
April 26, 2024 8:39 pm

Sometimes right sometimes wrong but usually Fred is interesting.

MMinWA
MMinWA
April 26, 2024 2:46 pm

Well, that was depressing.

Voltara
Voltara
April 26, 2024 6:59 pm

So why is everyone here angry that the ruling class wants to cull the herd of useless eaters?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Voltara
April 27, 2024 12:00 am

They think every herd member has a soul of inestimable value, or something.

The real problem is that it will instead be a purge of possible threats. The best among the goyim, and all that.

Observer
Observer
April 27, 2024 12:07 am

Voting is just to pacify the general public. It does not matter and it hasn’t mattered for a very long time, and this is why the voting rights have since been granted to pretty much everyone.
We are ruled by oligarchy. This is the only form of government which seems to work for humans over a long run.