Is the Future Predetermined?

Guest Post by Martin Armstrong

I am an avid student of history. I noticed from an early age that no empire ever lasts forever. The question I had in my mind was how and why did they fall? I pursued my own course and academics held no answer. I would say there were two incidents when I was in high school that perhaps set me on a course of independent review. I was given The Great Crash to read and nowhere in there could you find one word about government defaults. Later I discovered a copy of Herbert Hoover’s Memoirs and after reading the chapter of events during 1931, I came to realize like so many throughout the centuries that history might be partially correct perhaps, but let us not forget, it was written by the victors to those who tended to record what suited their preferred conclusion to support their theories.

I have explained how I got a job during High School and worked in a coin/bullion store to earn money to go on a trip to Europe. I was in history class and the high school professor brought in an old film The Toast of New York. It was a film about the Panic of 1869 and the attempt of Jim Fisk to corner the gold market. In this clip, you will see what sparked my imagination and sense of curiosity given my exposure to reality by working with bullion when gold was fixed at $35 an ounce under Bretton Woods. Jim Fisk is at the ticker tape, and he then turns to his girlfriend and quotes gold at $162. How could gold be $162 in 1869 and $35 then? I was being taught that progress meant society moved in a linear fashion. So how was it possible that gold could be $162 in 1869 and $35 today in the 1960s?

At first, I assumed it was just a movie. But it bothered me. There was a QUESTION in the back of my mind that would not be answered. I went to the library and looked up the price of gold in the microfilm copies of The New York Times. There it was, the quote, $162. It was real. It profoundly shook my belief system to the very foundation of what I was being taught. Then merged with the realization that Galbraith cherry-picked history to support his socialist philosophy, suddenly;y I was confronted with the cold hard fact that what was being taught in school was not the truth but merely someone’s opinion.

When I went to physics class, I was told nothing was random. Yet when I went to economics class, I was told everything was random and therefore we can manipulate society under Keynesian Economics to eliminate depressions and recessions. Obviously, one was correct and the other was dead wrong. Social Sciences has nothing to do with “science” but were nothing more than an indoctrination into a philosophy, precisely as Klaus Schwab has done with his Young Global Leaders.

So is the future predetermined? There are two futures. The first is our personal future and people prefer to believe that they have free will and thus reject the idea of a predestined cycle. There are so many doors to the future, but they have the free will to decide which door to take. Will they act independently or follow the mob blindly like wearing a mask while driving a car alone. The independent can see the choice, whereas the latter just follows the mob and will suffer the predetermined outcome.

The second future is that of the mob which actually dictated the rise and fall of empires, nations, and city-states. The phrase “Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men” was written in 1887 by Lord Acton. The truth behind those words rings true throughout time in memorial. We are witnessing this once more with Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates, and George Soros. What makes such people think they know a better way for the world to function? Perhaps it is the ultimate power that blinds them to the reality that they elevate themselves way above society.

The rise and fall of empires, nations, and city-states is not entirely dependent upon human nature. Even these people arguing for Global Warming that they switched to climate change when the cold confronted their theories, is ponce more rewriting history to fit their predetermined conclusion. Climate has always moved through cycles. They simply are anti-fossil fuels and do everything in their power to support their predetermined conclusion that they must be stopped.

The first known Clean Air Act occurred in 535 AD. Emperor Justinian proclaimed the importance of clean air as a birthright. “By the law of nature these things are common to mankind—the air, running water, the sea.” Even Cicero wrote about pollution in the ancient city of Rome. For you see, CO2 is not solely produced by fossil fuels. When a forest is on fire, it gives off CO2, and before fossil fuels, they burned wood to stay warm. Burning crude oil releases less carbon dioxide than burning coal. Since ancient times, they have been burning peat for fuel. That is far worse than even coal.

Of course, climate change people are not interested in the truth. They have already made up their mind and they will ignore all other evidence. Trudeau even put a climate change tax on every household as if that can change the climate. You can win an argument with someone who is intelligent and interested in the truth. You will NEVER win an argument against a fool or someone who is entrenched in their bias. They are incapable of independent thought and will never change course. Hence, their personal future is tied to that of the mob which is predetermined.

History repeats, but it does so because it is guided by Adam Smith’s Invisible Hand. Even John Maynard Keynes, the father of this modern age of New Economics which is now collapsing, came to realize that his theories that society could be manipulated to eliminate depressions and recessions would never work. Former Chairman of the Federal Reserve, Paul Volcker, had even concluded that the Business Cycle defeated the “New Economics” of Keynes where there emerged “the conviction that business cycles were not inevitable, that government policy could and should keep the economy close to a path of steady real growth at a constant target rate of unemployment.” He called it the Rediscovery of the Business Cycle.

Even the previous Chairman of the Federal Reserve Arthur Burns came to the same conclusion – the Business Cycle would always win. Thus, even governments could NOT manipulate the economy or markets to produce the desired result.

As far as does Socrates “foresee the birth and emergence of great teachers to come who have the capacity of overcoming the Deep State and bringing the world back into an economic balance?”  Socrates does not project individuals. It forecast that 2016 was the first time we could see a third-party candidate take the White House and that was put out in 1985. That was 31.4 years into this ECM wave which began 1985.65 that produce the very day that Trump became president – 2017.05.  It did not predict it would be Trump over some other individuals. But history appears to produce the opportunity where some individuals will step up and see the opportunity for change. Socrates predicts turmoil between here into 2032, but there will be people who come forward to defeat Klaus Schwab and all his Young Global Leaders who are anti-humanity and assume that we are all worker bees to be herded and controlled.

Being a student of history, I realized that there is no way I can foresee what might happen 100 years from now. Will we have new energy? Will we inhabit other planets beyond Mars? ASll I could do was to teach Socrates how I would analyze and not inject any personal theory. There was no inherent bias on economic theories. I allowed it total freedom to come back and teach me how the world functioned. There was never any hardwire set of theories that if interest rates rise sell stocks. It was very clear that no such relationship was ever constant.

The stock market has NEVER peaked with the same level of interest rates twice in history. So how can anyone forecast what will happen if the Federal Reserve raises or lowers interest rates?

Indeed, the Fed raised rates throughout Trump’s Administration yet the stock market rallied. No relationship is ever cast in stone.

Some have asked how can Socrates forecast gold would rise and silver would decline at times. The two are not always joined at the hip.

So to conclude, the future is PREDETERMINED insofar as there will always be a rise and fall to every empire, nation, and city-state. That does not mean that our individual fate is predetermined. There are those of us who see the trend and are not so blind to the point that they just mindlessly join the crowd. This is evident right now even between the vaxed & un-vaxed. This is also why Schwab has ordered his Young Global Leaders to crush the un-vaxed for he wants total obedience to impose his economic theory upon the world.

Sorry, Klaus – You Will Fail. Socrates has Already Predicted your Outcome

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19 Comments
AK John
AK John
February 23, 2022 8:48 pm

In the Hindu tradition there are 3 types of Karma. They explain a lot how the Universe runs. The first Karma is Adi Karma, Similar to Original sin. This is our race, sex, family, wealth, nation, etc… we were born into. God assigned it to us at birth. The second Karma is day to day karma. This karma is adjusted by our action. This is the be kind to others and they will be kind to you or work hard and you may advance. This is the Karma where we are responsible for our own actions. I find it adjusts daily based mostly upon my attitudes. If I have the attitude that today will be an awesome day, it often is. The last Karma is Fate Karma. I believe fate is seldom changed except through the grace of God. Karma is usually referred to for the individual. But there is mention of race, national and even world Karma. Like Forest Gump, people have been intrigued by the idea of Fate since the dawns of time. I find all good stories and writing have an element of Karma in them.

Ken31
Ken31
  AK John
February 23, 2022 8:56 pm

This is a valid perspective, I think. I mean imagine a geometric object obstructing a view and as far as what can be observed from a certain perspective, it holds true.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  AK John
February 23, 2022 9:05 pm

That was interesting, thank you.

I wonder if fate karma is ultimately influenced by day to day karma though?

As to the article, the rise and fall of empires may be inevitable, but the path toeard the end is not linear, as described. We can still influence how exactly it will play out. Certainly, we can influence how those that are dear to us fare in the storm.

AK John
AK John
  Svarga Loka
February 23, 2022 9:55 pm

Here is a story I read. A guy was talking about his brother-in-law who surprisingly died. He mentioned that he took very good care of himself, was vey health conscious, was never sick a day in his life, and dropped dead at 70. To me he couldn’t change his fate of dying at 70. But he did make a difference in his day-to-day Karma as he was never sick a day in his life. Maybe he changed his fate a little, dying at 70 instead of 60, who knows.
When I read a story of a miraculous happening, then I think that Fate might have been changed. Ann Archer Butcher wrote a book called Inner Guidance our Divine Birthright. Several stories are of amazing things she had happen to her and in her family. One she was rescued by Dolphins from a shark attack. I heard her tell this story in person. Incredible. Then she also participated in the rescue of her sister who had a deadly disease. She showed the Doctor where the tumor was. She learned it from an inner Guidance. Fate is not easily changed, and I think it takes a direct blessing from God to change it. Now, how can we get life changing blessings like this in our life is another awesome topic, and what Anne Archer Butcher writes about.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  AK John
February 24, 2022 4:25 am

Maybe we get what we deserve? Or what we need to confront in order to learn what to do and not to do? From life to life, from conflict to order, from two to one. –bigfoot

AK John
AK John
  Anonymous
February 24, 2022 11:16 am

Yes, we get exactly what we deserve. Karma is a universal law God written and talked about in every real religion and spiritual path. People talk about it in many different forms. What goes around comes around is a famous saying talked about in the sports world. Most people think of Karma as bad. But there is also good Karma. We call them blessings.

B_MC
B_MC
  AK John
February 24, 2022 7:16 am

One she was rescued by Dolphins from a shark attack.

That reminded me of this recent story….

California man survives frigid five-hour night swim with a friendly seal as his guide

A California man thought he would die when he fell off his fishing boat and into the frigid Pacific Ocean — but a friendly harbor seal showed up in the nick of time and helped get him to safety…

“I was devastating myself, through my mind, just picturing my girls and my son growing up without me, and my wife, you know, not having a husband to support her,” Thompson told KABC…

Buoyed by the cheering creature, Thompson felt determined to swim to an oil platform, which he reached after about five hours, KABC reported…

In his post, Thompson wrote: “I’m a believer that there is a higher power now. I don’t know what it is, but there is a power greater than me. That was shown to me and I will never doubt that for the rest of my life.”

https://nypost.com/2022/02/17/california-man-who-fell-off-his-boat-thought-hed-die-until-seal-helped-him-swim-to-safety/

AK John
AK John
  B_MC
February 24, 2022 11:20 am

Awesome. A diver I know was grabbed by a sea lion and taken to the surface when he was caught in a little rip tide. He was scared shitless as sealions are humongous, and its enormous head was breathing in his face. He thought he was being taken by some sea monster. Later he read, it is common for sealions to help a struggling pup to the surface.

Gerold
Gerold
February 23, 2022 9:00 pm

Klaus and his Zionist ilk have been failing for more than 4,000 years.
That’s the good news. The bad news is all the death & misery we have to endure because of them.

Machinist
Machinist
February 23, 2022 9:14 pm

Armstrong, in those early days being schooling and reading history and economics, do you think it would have to killed you to study a bit of grammar and spelling and sentence structure?

Gerold
Gerold
  Machinist
February 23, 2022 9:23 pm

Machinist, I’ve often wondered about that. It’s like verbatim transcripts. Someone (or something) renders his speech into text without editing.

BL
BL
February 23, 2022 11:48 pm

On many levels, yes it is predetermined. My preplanner sucked in many ways but scored a TD in others. The scripts for global happenings are done 100-150 years in advance, I’d like to find TEAM COVID and beat the shit out of them for planning such horrid golden years for most of us geezers.

Observer
Observer
February 24, 2022 12:13 am

What makes such people think they know a better way for the world to function?

They don’t necessarily know a better way, they are just the only ones with the real means to impact the way which humanity is taking. Humans en mass are too stupid to self-govern, so someone will always rule over them.

This is also why Schwab has ordered his Young Global Leaders to crush the un-vaxed for he wants total obedience to impose his economic theory upon the world.

Or he just wants to show the normies that their “democratic” form of government failed them, so the normies would then all agree to accept some new form of governance.

m
m
  Observer
February 24, 2022 3:31 am

LOL, and that “new form of governance” will be automatically better? Not to mention who decides on it.

Walt
Walt
February 24, 2022 8:21 am

Is the Future Predetermined?

This is one I’ve chewed over since before I can remember. My best guess is “Yes, but..”.

So here’s my take, for what it’s worth..

Let’s take as a given that what is true for an individual will translate into a truism for society, since a society is merely an amalgamation of individuals.
For the sake of the argument we should also set the Bible aside since, as far as I understand, the answer it gives is an unqualified Yes (which settles it).

I like to think of both the question and the answer as being more nuanced. Rather than ‘predetermined’, there is an aspect of inevitability to events which when viewed as such helps to bring their outcomes into better perspective.

This inevitability is personified by the Laws inherent in the natural order of things, which are best illustrated by:
1. Newton’s Laws, eg. #3 – For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
2. The three Laws of Thermodynamics, eg. #2 – The entropy of any isolated system always increases, and
3. The Law of Gravity, ie: ‘What goes up must come down’.
So the very foundations of our reality are laid with a theme of inevitability as mortar.

When viewed with foresight, there is no possible way to determine if an action is as a result of free choice or was always going to manifest as it did. A person may change their mind on an issue, but how to know this wasn’t always going to be the case?
When viewed with hindsight, there is still no possible way to determine whether an outcome was the product of a freely made decision or was an inevitability in and of itself.
So the question is what (if any) influence do we have on an outcome prior to arriving at that threshold where possibilities are cemented into existence – when the potential becomes the actual.
Clearly we are constrained in all things by the rules listed briefly above, so it follows that if free will were to exist, it would only be so within strictly defined parameters. And with reality being so unfathomably complex (even while being primarily comprised of nothing) and with so much yet to be discovered let alone explained, it’s not much of a stretch to imagine we are further constrained by others which are so nebulous and ethereal they will forever evade our understanding.
Ultimately, whether we have free will or not, the outcome will always present itself in exactly the same manner as if we didn’t. So even Occam would say we don’t.
Perhaps free will is that small amount of wiggle room we like to think we have that exists between the possible and the inevitable, a kind of latent potential.
Perhaps free will is no more than a human construct, an illusion we’ve created in order to help us navigate reality. In that regard it shares many similarities to the idea of there being a ‘now’, which exists at the same time that it doesn’t – ceasing to exist the moment it comes into existence.
So a bit like Schrödinger’s cat, certainly free will exists – but actually it doesn’t. Undoubtedly it makes us feel better to think that it does and that as a consequence we have some measure of control over our reality, but ultimately it makes no difference to the here and now either way (the cat would probably beg to differ).

Here’s George’s take on ‘now’. Who doesn’t have time for George? (11.5min.):

AK John
AK John
  Walt
February 24, 2022 1:46 pm

An excellent old Syfy book is the Talons of Time. Like many Syfy books, it has a lot of truth in it. The talons of time are run by the Kal, Satan. It gives the idea that we could free ourselves from time if we fully understood it.

Jdog
Jdog
February 24, 2022 12:20 pm

The one factor the author fails to consider is the most important one. That is the fact that a certain subset of the human race are psychopaths. Psychopaths differ from the the rest of society in that they have no real sense or belief in the concept of right or wrong. They are 100% self concerned, and they have no empathy or compassion for anyone except for themselves. They believe they can and should have everything and that no one else should have anything. They can be very charming in that they can lie to your face, and tell you whatever they think will further their agenda. They have no problems lying, cheating, stealing, womanizing, or committing crimes of any kind. This gives them a huge advantage over humans with conscience and ethics.
Because of their insatiable greed and predatory nature, they always rise to the top of government and commerce.
The more power they achieve, the more dangerous and destructive they become. Eventually, if they can usurp enough power, they destroy themselves and everyone around them. They are the scourge of mankind, and until we begin to recognize them, and filter them out of positions of power, we are destined to repeat the endless cycle of building societies just to have them self destruct.

Card802
Card802
February 24, 2022 12:39 pm

I just watched an interesting one hour+ long interview with Martin Armstrong.

New World Order Desperate as Plan Falls Apart – Martin Armstrong

Covered most of the topics from the Ukraine, Covid, the fed, Debts, PM’s, WEF failing, the little boy from up north failing, loss of confidence of past governments to a loss of confidance in most government’s in maybe five years, and believes it’s over for present state of America in that time frame as well.
He see’s country’s all over the globe dealing with separatist movements, mostly north vs south including the US.

Ties right in with this Fourth Turning……

Jdog
Jdog
  Card802
February 24, 2022 3:00 pm

Except one thing. The NWO agenda is going along just fine. I am not sure why he thinks it is falling apart unless he does not understand what it is in the first place.
The NWO agenda is to bankrupt the US, which they have just about accomplished. The national debt is just about equal to the net worth of all Americans combined.
Now all they need is a economic crisis in which the US government cannot meet its debt obligations, and the plan is complete.
At that point they declare a National Emergency, and come up with a “international” plan to deal with the US governments insolvency.
The public will be told that the current form of government is the reason for the terrible financial mess and it can only be solved with a new form of government. They will then be given 2 choices.

1. Keep their current form of government, and pay for the insolvency of government by a “bail in” in which the all assets of the Citizens will be “appropriated” to pay the governments debts.
or
2. Vote to abolish the Constitution, and form a new type of government similar to the EU and in turn the debt will be “restructured” by the world bank, and the Citizens will be able to keep the majority of their assets.

You see ultimately it is the Citizens who are on the hook for all the money the government spends. We let it happen.