Guest Post by
Frequent and longtime commenter TAE Summary makes lists from time to time of differing views on topics as these can be found on The Automatic Earth and elsewhere. Since so few people understand the topic of energy (and thermodynamics), this latest list is useful as usual.
What the media reports on energy is as much “The Science” as it is on Covid and the climate. We better start questioning everything about it, or we’ll be as wrong about it as we were about Covid. With equally damaging consequences. Or worse.
Background
– We are addicted to high energy use.
– Each first world citizen has the equivalent of scores of energy slaves.
– We spend colossal amounts of energy on useless things.
– Governments and especially militaries are fabulous energy wasters.
– People and even experts don’t understand energy.
– Radical action is required to move to renewable, sustainable energy sources to save the environment from climate change. We need to achieve net zero carbon emissions by 2050 by shifting to renewable energy sources like hydro, solar, wind, tidal and geothermal. Electric cars are our future.
– Hydrogen can be a green energy source when it is produced from green electricity sources. Nuclear and fusion power are also carbon free and possibly parts of a green energy future. Improving technologies will help solve our energy problems.
– We need massive investments in green energy. Financial instruments like subsidies, carbon credits and green energy bonds will help us move to a renewable energy future. The world will be better off without fossil fuels.
– The price of green energy has dropped and is now competitive with fossil fuel energy. Switching to renewables will save most people money. Moving to clean energy will create millions of good paying jobs.
– By moving to green energy we have a bright future awaiting us.
– There is plenty of energy but its availability is blocked by those who use energy scarcity to enhance their own power. The real cause of energy insecurity is under-investment in oil and gas. Climate policy is being used as an excuse to limit energy.
– Energy Cost of Energy is a myth rolled out when energy production is blocked. There are at least 47 years of oil in known reserves in the world and that doesn’t include the trillions of barrels of recoverable shale oil in the US alone. Oil was and is continuously produced by abiotic means in the earth. We will never run out of oil.
– We need to harness all possible sources of energy including oil, gas, hydro, wind, solar, thermal and tidal energy. Nuclear and fusion power are important parts of our energy solution.
– Technology will help solve our energy problems. “Clean” energy sources abound within humanity’s grasp. By 2100, we will have quantum reactors creating zero-point energy, air-wired to your car with TeraGigaHertz transmission, and matter synthesizers as well.
– By using all available sources of energy we have a bright future awaiting us.
– The easily extractable energy is mostly gone. Sane energy policies in the 60’s or 70’s could have mitigated the problems but not much can be done now. New technologies almost always end up using more energy than they produce.
– Green energy is a mirage. All so-called green energy solutions require fossil fuels as precursors and are not sustainable long term. We don’t have enough lithium, cobalt, etc. for car batteries and our electric grid won’t support charging everyone’s electric cars. People may say they want green energy but are unwilling to significantly sacrifice for it.
– Infinite growth in a finite world is not possible. We are nearing an energy cliff where there will be drastically less energy available and which will cause an economic depression that never ends. Energy scarcity will be used by those in charge to enhance their own power. We will eventually return to only having local energy from the sun at our disposal, that is, about 1% of the energy we use now. Everything will be mostly local.
– Our future is not bright. Prepare now.
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Of the 3, the green energy is absurd.
Of course, that’s the 1 govts embrace.
Solar panels require sunlight as an energy source. In addition to the Harvard admission of using “solar radiation management” around 2016, we now have Greta Thuneberg and her type squealing about geoengineering out of one side of their mouths while maintaining the alarmist stance of global warming. How will blocking out the sunlight with chemtrails allow sunlight to be collected to be used for energy? The governments hope that people can’t put 2 and 2 together and figure out the catch 22.
Mankind lacks the ability to exhaust the planet of resources. The abundance narrative is correct but that doesn’t mean we should be cavalier or reckless with the resources entrusted to us.
Electric technology is cool. I love my Milwaukee Fuel cordless tools. Still, when I plug them in the wall charger I’m using energy from natural gas combustion.
When the technology catches up to the dream I’ll be for green energy. It aint there yet.
These Green idiots don’t mention the generators running on compressed natural gas or petroleum products that are needed to convert energy into electricity. The electricity comes from a bundle of copper wires spinning in a magnetic field, and the bundle of wires doesn’t spin without the mechanical energy from the chemical combustion of diesel or natural gas,
Refined petroleum products like gasoline or benzene don’t magically happen, either, and is more energy intensive to make when the unrefined oil is “sour” or high in sulfur content. Cracking involves chemicals and heat to properly distill and refine the end products.
In short, it takes energy to create energy and it isn’t “free” or without some sort of labor involved.
No worries. Deep Shekels got this, bruh.
UN Seeks $4 To 6 Trillion Per Year To Address Climate
What Would It Cost?
Hooray! Only $4 trillion to 6 trillion per year.
“A global transformation from a heavily fossil fuel- and unsustainable land use-dependent economy to a low-carbon economy is expected to require investments of at least US$4–6 trillion a year,” stated the UN report (page 26 of 132).
Q: US$4–6 trillion a year for how many years?
A: Based on figure ES.6 (lead chart) least eight years.
Q: What Percent of GDP?
A: 4 to 9 percent for developing countries, and 2 to 4 percent for developed countries.
And developing countries will gladly fork over up to 9 percent of GDP every year for eight years.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/un-seeks-4-6-trillion-year-address-climate
Green could have had an impact before the 1964 Civil Riots Act, when the country had self responsible law abiding productive Citizens; today, governments finance an exploding welfare maggot class esp in Blue cities, like Vampire Squids sucking so much of the life blood of our country that Green Energy could never ever hope to keep up with their egregious expanding demands.
My electric co-op is investing in a solar farm. I’ve not researched other co-ops or electricity providers in the area that may be in on the “deal”. All I know of are those that run my c0-0p and I think they do a reasonable job. I had fewer outages with a previous c0-op in a different area of Texas. Outages with the previous co-0p were usually the result of a squirrel climbing a pole up to a transformer and getting crispy fried beyond recognition.
My c0-0p is in redneck and oil and gas country and more and more I see oil companies reworking NG wells that have only been a trickle in more recent years, just enough to maintain the lease. There have been three fracking wells within one square mile of me since 2014 producing oil and NG. My last two electric bills were very reasonable , $114 and $103. However the two or three before wore a hole in the pocketbook paying for what the co-op explained as higher costs for fossil fuel generated electricity. I hear much about the costs associated with the manufacture of solar panels and other “green” sources. I am only guessing my co-op has however put a pencil to the costs and if it were not feasible to implement solar as an additional source they would not entertain the thought. Co-ops I’ve participated certainly “make money”. Their design though is to deliver electricity at the lowest cost, an idea of best service and cost for the CUSTOMER. I’ve not a lot of complaints , I know those that work for the c0-op and personally do see some dedication by those that operate my co-op.
Bucknp,
You can’t switch energy plants on and off like a light switch.
It is complete BS to think you’ll be able to switch between solar and the other/ current energy production at will. It’s complete nonsense.
In FL the power company (FPL) built a bunch of solar farms THAT WILL NEVER BE USED because you can’t switch power sources. One or the other and the sun doesn’t shine at night.
It’s virtue signaling BS and wasted $billions here in FL.
DON’T FALL FOR THAT NONSENSE.
TPTB bulldozed the coal fired electric plants and now “we” use NG from Texas. When that price goes sky high this Winter, and the FBI/CIA blows up the pipeline, at least there will be some solar power in the daytime for the Elite.
Having spend a couple decades in the Utility industry, I can tell you that the issues concerning energy are not technological in nature. They are monopolistic. The issue for the people who control energy is not how to supply abundant energy, it is how to maintain total control over energy and keep the industry monopolized.
There are cheap energy sources available, but many of them would allow for the decentralizing of energy and are therefore unacceptable to the people who seek to maintain complete control. The energy industry whether fossil fuels or electric utilities is controlled by a criminal cartel who will never allow anything to prevent them from total control of the industries.