Don’t Fall For It

Guest Post by Karl Denninger

Breathlessly, I tell you, breathlessly, over-unity fusion has been achieved!

Don’t buy that bullshit; they’re lying.

Specifically its crap until you can show me all of the following:

  • A sustainable reaction that continues for hours, not microseconds.  I can’t make power out of a single microsecond event.  I can make power out of a reaction that continues for hours and evolves energy while doing so.  Until you can do the latter you have nothing and nothing in the current results, assuming they’re real, nor anything in prior results suggests progress toward that.

  • The over-parity ratio of energy output to input is exponentially (that is, by at least 10x) high.  A conventional nuclear fission plant requires about 10% of the output nameplate rating in input power just to operate.  This is why you can’t black-start such a plant (well, I have a theory that might work to do it in an emergency, but if it goes badly….. oops!) and this also, to a large degree, applies to other conventional energy such as coal.  The scrubbers, conveyors, grinding apparatus for the input fuel and similar all require a lot of energy input, so you have to get a lot back out to make it worth it.  Coal, natural gas, nuclear fission and oil all do.  Until fusion can produce 10x as much energy on the output side as you put in to cause the fusion its a laboratory curiosity piece, not a source of commercial power.  Exactly zero progress has been made toward that in the last 50+ years.
  • The energy produced has to be able to be captured and converted into usable power of some form, either chemical, mechanical or electrical, and thus the above point must be measured after said conversion.  Gamma rays are energy but they’re not usable thus until and unless you can transform them into one of those forms they don’t count.  Yes, on a physics level energy is energy but in terms of practical use that is not true and it is fraudulent to represent that which is not the case to others.

  • You must be able to source the reactants with the product energy and have enough left over to be operationally viable as a business.  This is non-trivial as well because the fusion we have achieved thus far requires deuterium and/or tritium.  Both are exceedingly rare hydrogen isotopes (about ~150 per million for deuterium) and because they are chemically the same as ordinary hydrogen separating them is a five-alarm pain in the neck that requires a great deal of energy itself.  In addition tritium is atomically unstable (that is, it decays) so you can’t store it permanently either (deuterium is atomically stable, on the other hand, so with deuterium you can.)

Let me know when there’s a viable engineering pathway to the above.

Until then keep they breathless exclamations to yourself; you’re making a fool of yourself promoting and cheering on crap, beyond continuing work on possibly reaching those above points — at some far, far into the future and only after someone pulls a “Scotty” in terms of a breakthrough that today we have no engineering path that places it within reach.

And incidentally, if you think they actually got back more than they put in, even leaving the externalities above aside, you were conned on that  too.  Here’s the salient statement from the article itself:

But that changed in the dead of night on Dec. 5. At 1 AM local time, researchers used laser beams to zap a tiny pellet of hydrogen fuel. The lasers produced 2.05 megajoules of energy, and the pellet released roughly 3.15 megajoules.

Sounds great, right?

Uh, no….

“It is a big scientific step,” says Ryan McBride, a nuclear engineer at the University of Michigan. But, McBride adds, that does not mean that NIF itself is producing power. For one thing, he says, the lasers require more than 300 megajoules worth of electricity to produce around 2 megajoules of ultraviolet laser light. In other words, even if the energy from the fusion reactions exceeds the energy from the lasers, it’s still only around one percent of the total energy used.

So the laser beams contained 2.05MJ of energy but the unit consumed 300 MJ of energy to produce the 2.05 MJ of laser beams that was aimed at the target.

In other words they produced about 1% of the energy they put in, not 120%.

The blunt word for what was allegedly reported, in other words, is bullshit.

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flash
flash
December 16, 2022 7:41 am

It’s a fake and gay world ruled by Deep Shekel controlled evil clowns, wherein every living soul is a target for agenda driven deception. This case serves the green energy lie and the one enplaned in the video below served the MIC’s breathless claim that Asian countries would fall like dominoes to communism, unless Uncle Schlomo went to war in Vietnam . It’s Deep Shekel lies all the way down.

In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it does, you can bet it was planned that way. — Franklin D Roosevelt

What many of us already knew.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
  flash
December 16, 2022 7:50 am

Will Tucker Carlson Reveal The High Level Source Which Confirmed That The Deep State Murdered JFK In A Regime Change Coup d’état?

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Anonymous
December 16, 2022 8:56 am

With or without a name, those who don’t worship at the altar of our government have always known that the CIA was involved.

The Duke of New York
The Duke of New York
December 16, 2022 7:59 am

With the amount of energy input required, and the minimal net output, they’re essentially spending millions to charge a phone battery…

Granted, it’s research and would be wonderful if it worked at scale (and far more efficiently), but it’s hardly ‘just around the corner’

Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
  The Duke of New York
December 16, 2022 10:50 am

Auntie is surprised they hadn’t rolled out the “cold fusion” narrative for the psyientific holiday amusement of the Lumpen; recycling it through the propaganda organs of state as per usual.

And Sam Brinton was going to lead the show.

Trapped in Portlandia
Trapped in Portlandia
  The Duke of New York
December 16, 2022 11:43 am

This reminds me of President Snow’s line in the Hunger Games: “A little hope is effective. A lot of hope is dangerous.”

NtroP
NtroP
  The Duke of New York
December 16, 2022 2:55 pm

Karl is one sharp cookie. He calls bullshit on all kinds of these lies.

Foot in the Forest
Foot in the Forest
  The Duke of New York
December 16, 2022 3:32 pm

Explained it to a coworker in Nascar-ese. You have just discovered oil in the ground. How long until you can turn left at 200mph?

Dangerous Variant
Dangerous Variant
December 16, 2022 8:05 am

Ok smart guy. Then tell me how I am supposed to heat my 100% organic, sustainable, and fair-trade mealworm fettucini in my downtown workers union communityshare pod where I live and work programming IA for X.com with my nonbinary partnershare person? You think coal is gonna just keep magically sprouting up from poor BIPOC neighborhoods to keep the lights on in our pod for those three hours every day we are allocated by Amazon Global Power Services? You Republicans just won’t quit. Even after we proved by !Science! that Climate Change is caused by free thinking White Christian Men you just can’t help but to cling to your logic and hate and well-formed jawlines. Move out of the way, White man, your time is over. The Permanant Revolution, just like the people’s glorious over-unity fusion energy, is going to change the world any day now. And then your reign of hate will finally be over.

flash
flash
  Dangerous Variant
December 16, 2022 8:27 am

ha ha ha…pure old school gold.

Boogie
Boogie
  Dangerous Variant
December 16, 2022 8:34 am

I love it!

History buff.
History buff.
  Dangerous Variant
December 16, 2022 9:06 am

Stucky?????? Is that you?

my2cents
my2cents
  Dangerous Variant
December 16, 2022 9:41 am

DV, you are obviously not old enough to remember when the concept of nuclear power generation was sold to the general public back in the 50’s. I quote:

It will be so cheap we won’t even have to meter it

If by chance you are old enough to have lived then, my I suggest you challenge some of the prepackaged guilt & empty promises the establishment is trying to sell all of us. Snake oil is still just snake oil no matter how it is packaged.

Dangerous Variant
Dangerous Variant
  my2cents
December 16, 2022 10:18 am

I remember touring the local nuke plant as a school kid. Not much to see. I preferred touring the huge dam. You could feel the turbines underfoot. The whole place vibrated with energy.

Luckily, they made sure we left with that special kind of White Pride. The kind where you are simultaneously supposed to marvel at our feats of engineering and science that underpins the great comforts and abundance that has elevated the standard of living for millions and millions, while feeling terrible that the poor brown indians lost their favorite fishing hole. I guess the kids today just call that ‘anxiety’ or ‘addhd’. Luckily there are lots of pills for that.

Unfortunately, I am old enough to have suffered through such educating experiences without the special chosen marketing department colorizing history and highlighting the fact that we’d already be living on mars if not for people like my dad stealing Wakanda’s technology and making those black ladies do space geometry in the janitors annex while some “southern” sounding guy with a flattop takes credit.

I had to wait till I growd up and could read the NYT and listen to NPR.

But again luckily, because reasons, they soon closed the nuke plant and people celebrated when the big cooling tower was razed. It felt a bit like when we burned old man Chestertons fence down one summer. Shoot. Now I am all nostalgic.

Anyhow, now that whole area is extra-green and when my poor mom (RIP dad) has trouble making her outrageous heating bill on her social security to cool her house all winter from all the global warming well she just calls up that power company and has them bury a few more sacred fishing holes. They call it White Privilege. Yeah, its pretty awesome.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Dangerous Variant
December 16, 2022 1:59 pm

We have a winner LMAO

Boogie
Boogie
December 16, 2022 8:23 am

Here’s the hook, “Scientists with the U.S. Department of Energy”. It’s just another Government scam, funneling billions into another slush fund. Fusion is on par with perpetual energy. Our sun is a fusion reactor. Even if we could produce the plasma reaction, how do we contain it? There are big physical problems with fusion and we are nowhere near a solution. I agree with Karl Denninger, this another technocratic lie/scam. Don’t believe it.

flash
flash
  Boogie
December 16, 2022 8:28 am

With Uncle Schlomo , everything is a grift.

Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
  flash
December 16, 2022 10:52 am

and fake and gay.

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 16, 2022 8:40 am

ah, fusion, the power source of the future… always has been always will be..
or at least an endless festival on the gravy train.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
December 16, 2022 9:21 am

” the power source of the future”

And Fuel Cells. Any day now.

https://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/fuel-cell-basics

Arizona Bay
Arizona Bay
December 16, 2022 8:53 am

This announcement was less believable than Romain Gary’s book The Gasp where they captured the soul as an energy source.

Marc Mathieu is a brilliant creator — a scientist whose experiments have led him to the very essence of man’s life-energy. Leading a team of top French physicists, Mathieu develops a method to capture and harness this incredible life-force as it escapes from a man’s body at the moment of death. The result is the gasp: a pulsating sphere of energy that looks as harmless as a ping-pong ball but contains a power source that makes the atom obsolete.

Bob P
Bob P
December 16, 2022 8:54 am

I don’t think much of Mike Adams and ignore almost everything he puts out, but I did pay attention to this one on cold fusion. Those of us old enough recall scientists in Utah (I think) claiming to have made cold fusion work back in the 1980s. They were quickly shut up and shut down. I forgot about it because the authorities would never lie about something that important (I thought). But now that I know TPTB lie about everything, I wonder if cold fusion has been solved.

https://healthrangerreport.com/situation-update-dec-14-2022-hot-fusion-breakthrough-only-allowed-because-of-cold-fusion-revolution-now-under-way

cricketTheFirst
cricketTheFirst
  Bob P
December 16, 2022 9:13 am

IF it was already achieved, like many discoveries, it would never be allowed for all mankind’s benefit. Especially true with energy sources.
Those who own and run everything do not want mankind to ever have an un-limitless energy source-especially a free one. They aren’t interested in advancing society into the future, if you haven’t noticed.

Really, Really, Central Scrutinizer
Really, Really, Central Scrutinizer
  cricketTheFirst
December 16, 2022 12:41 pm

We got our eye on you, Bucko. You just keep on splaining the stuff we don’t want splained, well, we got plans for you. /sarc/.

lamont cranston
lamont cranston
  Bob P
December 16, 2022 9:29 pm

Yes, Utah. One of the Ph.D researchers was from Western NC. Can’t remember his name. It went down the wabbit hole quickly.

J Far
J Far
December 16, 2022 10:02 am

Saw this movie already, back in 1989.

anon a moos
anon a moos
December 16, 2022 10:33 am

Its just more of the same from the religion of Science. Publish or Perish.

It matters not an iota if what they spew is correct or not, its ALL about putting out a paper hyping your discoveries so that you can get a shit load of ‘research’ grants to continue discovery.

Kinda like getting research grants to measure the different flow rates of catsup at varying temperatures… for real. But in this case its technical BS because there are people like Hank johnson and AOC just awestruck and willing to toss sacks of cash to these Mr Sciences and haven’t the slightest clue that its all BS.

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 16, 2022 2:07 pm

Nothing will replace coal , oil or natural gas other than nuclear for now . Wind and solar are cute little supplemental gadagetries but nothing more .
The scientific and engineering can and should spend efforts experimenting and studying for the next BIG THING .
That is as long as the don’t blow a hole in the fabric of the time/space continuum with the super collider or some other issue melting a hole to the earths core .
After all science just wrapped up a BioWarfare concoction that is on the verge of wiping us out generally!
So who knows ???

fujigm
fujigm
December 17, 2022 6:19 pm

The blunt word for what was allegedly reported, in other words, is bullshit.

Nope.
Not even bullshit.
You can burn bullshit and get heat from it…